I don't agree that it's working. We can't know. The process is too long. And you'd have to define what you mean by working. (Insert usual comment about Iraqi civilian losses and ongoing violence and deaths of Americans.) But the type of connection you're talking about is not the usual implied or stated connection. The Bush administration told us of collusion between the groups. And that was only one lie of many. If you lie to get into a war and accomplish a greater good (if that was your intent), is that a right and moral action?
I have said since about, oh, 2003, that if President Bush had been open and spelled out the agenda and the rationale honestly, rather than using lies and fearmongering, I could have had respect for that. I likely still would not have agreed or thought it was a good idea (financially, morally, etc.), but I could have had respect for a sincere process. But no. They LIED.
(Please note that I'm not doing _any_ comparing of presidents or administrations. That's not my argument here today. I'm talking only about the Iraq war because of the bumper-sticker tangent and Jonryker's response to my comment.)
And Jon, I dare you to find a true terrorist organization ensconced at any American university. People who say shit that they have a right to believe in, yes. But the idea that universities are filled with radicals kinda went out in the 60s. There are some downright conservative teachers out there, even in *gasp* public K-12 schools.
And for my part, I'm not at all sure that's really why they went in, though when I give the neocons their due, that is their agenda--to spread _our version_ of democracy (coupled with capitalism and protecting the interests of empire at all times) to the world. But you know what, I don't believe that democracy is always the best form of gov't in every situation at every point in history. And I don't believe that our version of democracy is working at top form.
