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Monday, July 13, 2009

An American flag flown upside down as a protest in a northern Wisconsin village was seized by police before a Fourth of July parade and the businessman who flew it -- an Iraq war veteran -- claims the officers trespassed and stole his property. Hours before a Fourth of July parade, four police officers went to Congine's property and removed the flag under the advice of Marinette County District Attorney Allen Brey.

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"... four police officers went to Congine's property and removed the flag under the advice of Marinette County District Attorney Allen Brey.

A D.A. approved this? What law school did he graduate from?

from this source: www.ushistory.org

8. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

1. The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

the question is: is his property in extreme danger or distress?

p.s. - does this mean the left is all of a sudden concerned with flag etiquette?

#3 | Posted by nanc

No, cranc-it means the "false patriots"-place way too much importance on a symbol. Was his treatment of the flag putting the country in jeopardy? No?
OK, was anyone physically threatened by his treatment of the Flag? No?

They should save their "Worship" for Church Services.

I know it's legit in cases of extreme distress, but I just don't like seeing our flag hung upside down.

Just do not like it.



America = A giant fat pig in a tutu.

But if he was flying a Mexican flag they would have changed the parade route to go right in front of his building, and granted him his liquor license.

1. The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.


the question is: is his property in extreme danger or distress?

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-07-13 12:27 PM

Yes, it is common for protesters to display the flag upside down to symbolize that they believe the nation is in extreme danger as a result of what they are protesting.

The actions here seem to be more to suppress his right to protest rather than to enforce a mostly unknown flag law.

I should read more before commenting. This invalidates my #8

He said his distress is likely bankruptcy because the village board refused to grant him a liquor license after he spent nearly $200,000 to buy and remodel a downtown building for an Italian supper club.


This is just the actions of a drama queen seeking attention. Well, he got it.

as people are allowed to burn and stomp on the american flag in protests - it seems only fair this guy should be able to fly his flag upside down. freedom of expression i believe the flag burners use - he should try that one.

#4 | Posted by frankf1.5liter

it is far too early in the day to be making no sense at all. see my #10.

Some people refer to it as the First Amendment, Nance, but that was written before the flag became a fetish.

The "flag laws" are mostly silly and selectively enforced. It is illegal, for example, to wear clothing made of a flag, yet many "patriotic" Country and Western stars usually break that law to show national pride.

This guy is a commie. we know because the ACLU is on his side.

The Right


If Wasilly Wisconsin has four cops with the time to do this, Wasilly has four too many cops on the payroll.

the lawyers will win another big pay day on this one and it will be easy.

Didn't Kerry put this guy on the cover of his book?

. The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.


the question is: is his property in extreme danger or distress?

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-07-13 12:27 PM | Reply

obviously it is when a man is trespassed on by policemen who are supposed to enforce the law, who then steal his private property based on the recommendation of a DA who is supposed to adjudicate the law.

where are all the flag burning lovers?

i don't agree with burning the flag. but, this soldier didn't do that. flying a flag, any nation's flag, upside down expresses the same notion: nation in distress. check the numbers. i have to agree with him.

the question is: is his property in extreme danger or distress?

That doesn't matter. What he's doing is a violation of flag etiquette, but what his city did is a violation of the Constitution. He has the legal right to fly the flag upside down as a form of protest against the government.

"KANREI".....During the Viet Nam War, hippie type protesters were thrown in Jail for using the FLAG, as clothing everything from BANDANNAS,SHIRTS, EVEN TROUSERS all to many times D.A. through out the Country abused their power to put these people in Jail. Today every useless PATRIOTIC, Country singer wears a piece of clothing to prove that they are more American than the rest of us....Another example of the LAW used by the powers that be to suppress those that they disagree......

Any of you ever been to Marinette? I have, trust me, flying distress signal there is not a bad idea. A very depressed area in economic terms.

p.s. - does this mean the left is all of a sudden concerned with flag etiquette?

#3 | Posted by nanc

You gotta be kidding.

What he's doing is a violation of flag etiquette, but what his city did is a violation of the Constitution. He has the legal right to fly the flag upside down as a form of protest against the government.

That's what I was gonna say Rogers but I'll add it was childish to fly the flag like that given his gripe.

Seriously, who cares?

The flag stands for freedom and anyone who says different should be thrown in jail.

The flag stands for freedom and anyone who says different should be thrown in jail.

Pardon my ignorance, but it is hard to tell in B/W text: You are being facetious, right Danni?

Now it is you who are being fecetious.

faceticious.

jail stands for freedom and anyone who says differently should be thrown a flag.

Now it is you who are being fecetious

It was an honest question, danni. I can't imagine someone with your views getting worked up about a piece of cloth, but I wanted to make sure.


p.s. - does this mean the left is all of a sudden concerned with flag etiquette?


#3 | Posted by nanc

Good thing he didn't drape it over a chair or the shit would hit the fan.

It is known as a distress symbol so the ADA may have been within his rights to take it down. I would never fly a flag upside down unless I really needed help.

These folks need mediation--quick!


Give the guy a beer and wine license for his restaurant to start.

Then he has to fly the flag correctly.

Goatman, of course I was being sarcastic.

I would never fly a flag upside down unless I really needed help.

Mental help excluded, I presume?

He's been flying the flag upside down since mid June!

And no one said anything until the 4th of July?

Mental help excluded, I presume?

#34 | Posted by goatman

No. If I was a victim of a home invasion or something I might fly the flag upside down at the window in hopes somebody who was in the military would know something was wrong.

I may agree people have the right to desecrate the flag but it does not mean I won't kick your ass for it.

Goatman, of course I was being sarcastic.

I'm glad to hear that. It's good to find those occasional things we agree on. I don't get all worked up over a piece of red, white, and blue cloth either. Burn it, fly it upside down, wipe your ass with it -- I don't care. But I do defend to the death what it stands for.

"I may agree people have the right to desecrate the flag but it does not mean I won't kick your ass for it."

So much for a "right".

Legally protected free speech, like it or not. DA should resign, police should be fired. Won't happen as the incestuous relationship between DA, police, and judges in small towns/counties pretty much result in kangaroo courts.
The real question is why would someone invest 200K in a supper club before securing the liquor license if the future of the business depends on the license.

"Give the guy a beer and wine license for his restaurant to start.


Then he has to fly the flag correctly."

Why?
Flags are nineteenth century nonsense.
Meaningless pieces of cloth that represent countries that send young people to fight wars while "masters of the universe" are ripping off their parents.
When we started fighting wars for oil "old glory" ceased being so important to me. I have to admit, there are times I am a little ashamed of "old glory." Romantic stories about times that never happened make Americans almost believe that God blessed our nation and our flag. Read the real history of this country and you will realize God had nothing to do with it. God might have actually been angry about some of the stuff that we have done while waving that flag.

Sorry you hate America Danni.

It must be miserable to be you.

Meaningless pieces of cloth that represent countries that send young people to fight wars while "masters of the universe" are ripping off their parents.
Posted by danni

And giving you the freedom to be whatever you call yourself.

Danni I have never been ashamed of the flag. Sometimes I don't agree with my countries leaders but I am proud to be an American.

And giving you the freedom to be whatever you call yourself.

#42 | Posted by wisgod


apparently except someone who wishes to fly a flag upside down.

at the 4th of july in my town, there was a group of Vietnamese Americans marching.

they kept them far down the line from the bikers

Want makes this country great is every 4 years we can change this countries direction and we can dissent every day if we choose.

We also live in a country where the odds are in your favor to be moderately successful. If you work hard learn a skill and avoid drugs and alcohol abuse you will most likely be somewhat successful. Maybe not rich but comfortably middle class.

Danni's comment is one of the sickest and most disgusting I have ever read at this site, and that is saying something.

img.wonkette.com


they should all these dumbass protesters in jail and throw away the key

"Here is the School of the Americas. It's a combat school. Most of the courses revolve around what they call "counter-insurgency warfare." Who are the "insurgents?" We have to ask that question. They are the poor. They are the people in Latin America who call for reform. They are the landless peasants who are hungry. They are health care workers, human rights advocates, labor organizers. They become the insurgents. They are seen as "the enemy." They are those who become the targets of those who learn their lessons at the School of the Americas." - Father Roy Bourgeois:

If you care more about how that flag is flying than you do the civil rights of the American citizen flying it, you are no patriot. You are a knee-jerk, emotional buttinsky whom our laws are set up to defend us against. Mob mentality that says "He's different! He must not be an America!" is put in check by civilized society.

I am very proud of our flag. It represents our country, our diversity, what this land was founded on....not desions made by some of our elected leaders.

There is a huge difference..

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I must posit that it is more miserable to be Murphy's husband, especially now since we no longer port ships in the Phillipines.

I dont know sometimes I feel ashamed when I see our flag

www.artlex.com

Gregory, flying that flag upside down was meant to signal distress. He wasn't under any Distress. He could have wrote a billboard saying America sucks and that would have been acceptable. If everybody flies the flag upside down when they are upset it loses its intended meaning. When somebody really needs help it will be ignored.

George Washington did not fight for a flag; he fought for an idea. A flag is a flag is a flag. I swear, some people, if given the choice of seeing flags flying everywhere or Constitutional liberties, would pick the flags.

"I dont know sometimes I feel ashamed when I see our flag"

The shame of that picture is that those men didn't need to die in a war that we should never have fought. Their sacrifice is real but the symbol of the flag, doesn't in any way, justify it.
Perhaps that is why the Bush administration would not have allowed that picture to be taken or published.

I'm ashamed of those who put our fellow Americans in harms way,,,NOT our country's flag, Truth!

"I swear, some people, if given the choice of seeing flags flying everywhere or Constitutional liberties, would pick the flags."

Exactly.

www.sligocameraclub.org


Glad these guys knew the flag represented more than a piece of cloth. It stood for an idea.

Americans almost believe that God blessed our nation and our flag. Read the real history of this country and you will realize God had nothing to do with it. God might have actually been angry about some of the stuff that we have done while waving that flag.

Thank God the military and most of America think different about the flag. This is from your State BTW...

www.staugustine.com

"The flag folding ceremony represents the same religious principles on which our great country was originally founded."

When the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, "In God We Trust," she said.

read what I wrote Lisa

I sometimes feel shame when I see the american flag

as in I see these flag draped coffins and feel shame at the war of agression fought in our name.

Jackass: yes, he could have chosen another form but it's his right to do as he pleases with his property. His freedom of expression is protected under the First Amendment. Who are you to dictate how he expresses himself? Just because you don't like it or find it offensive does not give you any authority to force him to take it down. If there's a law for misleading the authorities by faking an urgent call for help, THEN it can be enforced. Until then, it is a freedom of expression issue.

Hi Crispee!!!

I'm not ashamed of my counrty in any way, not even now.

The people who spit on the ideal of our flag, have no idea what it represents or what America stands for.

For them, the USA is just another piece of land.


Hi Crispee!!!

#64 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-07-13 11:10 PM

Hey Bella! Come esti? How is married life treating you?

I'm not looking at it being offensive. I learned in the Military that a flag should only be flown upside down in times of distress. He wasn't under any threat so he shouldn't be flying it upside down. To me I don't find it offensive I just think it should not be done unless you are in need of help.

Oops...sorry Truth. Thanks for correcting me.

np i was trying to be sneaky to catch a Rtard.

I'm wonderful! How are you! Married life is great, I am very Blessed!!

I'm wonderful! How are you! Married life is great, I am very Blessed!!


Good and glad to hear it. Nice to see you chime in once in a while.

Looks like Lincoln disagrees with danni as well.

It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom --

A flag waves in front of the Tomb of the Unknowns also known as the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier for the "Flag's In" ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery, Arlington, Va. May 25, 2006.


The wall of the Memorial Amphitheater at Arlington National Cemetery reads "When we assumed the soldier, we did not lay aside the citizen." These words of President George Washington are remembered for the "Flag's In" ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery, Arlington, Va., May 25, 2006.
cayankee.blogs.com

If your idea of the United State of America is locked up in a flag, you are in sad shape. If you are more outraged by how the flag is treated than making sure our government is always held accountable (one "...of the people, by the people, for the people..."), you cherish a symbol more than the idea that that symbol represents. Kinda like saying "I love the stop sign! It is a symbol of authority!" as you whiz right on through the intersection... without stopping.

BTW: I was a Boy Scout and learned proper flag etiquette.

Last time I checked, the republicans had not yet made flag etiquette into law. In this country people can do whatever they want with the flag and that's exactly how it should be.

Ah, the "Patriots" come out, wrapping themselves in the flag crying out against the injustice of legally protesting (no matter how over the top and silly).

The nerve of an American actually making use of the First Amendment.

Everyone knows the Constitution is only important when it's convenient and comfortable.

I am curious if danni would do away with all military medals, awards, ceremonies... Afterall they represent all that was bad before and today in America.

The shame of that picture is that those men didn't need to die in a war that we should never have fought. Their sacrifice is real but the symbol of the flag, doesn't in any way, justify it.
Posted by danni

And YOU seem to have a bigger chip on your shoulder than those brave Men and Women ever did.
Cowardly post by someone who doesn't appreciate the safty they have been afforded sine 9/11. Maybe if it hit closer to home, you'd run back to the reservation.

That wasn't fair Wisgod. Danni has been abundantly clear of her concern for the safety of ALL Americans, including and spefically the safety of our service men and women.

Bullshit, Lisa. #40 says it all. Ungratefull to a Military force of hero's, while she get's to shot her fucking mouth off.

Apparently Wisgod doesn't care about American lives, a "hit closer to home" will bring those left alive back to the GOP.

Shot=talk stupid on a political site.

No Yav, you stupid fuck. I happen to choose to honor my Country, Flag, and Military.

I suggest you go back and reread that post of hers, Wisgod. It might serve you well to remember the hundred other posts she has made in defense of our service men especially sending them out to be killed all in the mane of oik as she states in her post you made mention of.

That, was her point. Her focus isn't on a "piece of cloth" as she put it. It most cerainly is on our military.

Bullshit, Danni thinks it's chic to take a shit on the flag.

There is no other point.

It might serve you well to remember the hundred other posts she has made in defense of our service men especially sending them out to be killed all in the mane of oik as she states in her post you made mention of.

Posted by Lisa

Oil? You want to equate the accomplishments to oil?
You might want to email an Iraqi instead of defending an idiot.

HaHa...conservatives attempting to understand complex ideas.
It always makes me laugh.
...or should I say "not attempting"?

You might want to email an Iraqi instead of defending an idiot.

Lisa's trying to help you, not defend you.

Lisa is right. Well, except for the mane of oik part. But if you substitute name of oil, she's exactly right.

Think what you want. You are entitled to your opnion.

So is Danni.

I just wish people would read it in context.

HaHa...conservatives attempting to understand complex ideas.

It's really not that complex. Nevermind.

I vote for sad and funny.

Q: Is it legal to fly the flag upside down?

The Flag Code states, "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." It is an unreasonable stretch to argue that the political purposes constitute "dire distress." Clearly this was intended as a call for immediate emergency assistance. We recommend that people who wish to express their political views find a way to do so that is respectful of the flag. Remember that to some the flag represents the government of the US and its policies; but it also represents the sacrifices made in all generations to protect our freedoms. It represents the promise of the Declaration. It represents our freedom of speech and our freedom to practice or not practice religion as we choose. It represents one nation in its strength and glory. It represents faith in a better future. We recommend that you show your respect for the country and for the flag and make your political views known in other ways. It is not illegal, it is disrespectful to the memory of those who gave their lives protecting your freedom to protest.

www.ushistory.org

LOL

Oops! Sorry for the typo.

Hey, at least the k and l are next to each other!

#92

Emphasis mine. Apologies for not making that clear.

You might want to email an Iraqi instead of defending an idiot.

#86 | Posted by wisgod

Okay, I just tried e-mailing 50,000 Iraqis, and my email bounced back:

Out of office autoreply:
The Iraqi you're trying to reach will be out of the office forever because they're dead.

Yav, doesn't Mom need a ride home from Bingo?

All you need to know, Wisgod.

mane of oik

Wasn't "Oik" that Harry Vold mare that bucked Hawkeye Henson off in the 9th round of the 1979 NFR?

www.law.umkc.edu

sorry Nanc, title IV will not supercede Amendment I.

read the cases in the ink above.

ink = link

sentence him to alaska where they really appreciate this stuff. ;-)

On those rare occasions when I employ the services of the United States Postal Service, I like to affix the flag stamps upside-down.

On those rare occasions when I employ the services of the United States Postal Service, I like to affix the flag stamps upside-down.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2009-07-14 02:49 AM | Reply | Flag: The Crying of Lot 49

"
Bullshit, Danni thinks it's chic to take a shit on the flag.


There is no other point."

Baloney. Coming from the era of Vietnam many of us are unwilling to spout the unthinking uber-nationalistic baloney of the flag waving fools who think it is unpatriotic to see your own country in realistic terms. Sorry if it doesn't sound the way you think a citizen ought to sound but since the day I saw students shot dead at Kent State, since I saw the pictures of little girls on fire from napalm, since I heard of our CIA assasinating Allende and many, many other episodes I lost my ability to pretend that America is always the land of the free and the home of the brave. It just isn't. Hey, I wish it was but it just isn't.
How can anyone not see the irony of the largest prison population on the planet and the ridiculous claim of being "the land of the free?"
Go wave your flags and feel patriotic and proud but many Americans, who do love their country, don't have to pretend America is better than it really is to still love it.


All you need to know, Wisgod.

#97 | Posted by YAV

That is very impressive. Give yourself a hardy pat on the back.

I know it's legit in cases of extreme distress, but I just don't like seeing our flag hung upside down.

Just do not like it.


#5 | Posted by CalifChris

Like it or not, here are a couple of questions for you:

Do you acknowledge this man's right to Freedom of Speech?

Will you defend this man's right, even though you disgree with his message and/or method?

Flags are nineteenth century nonsense.
Meaningless pieces of cloth that represent countries that send young people to fight wars while "masters of the universe" are ripping off their parents.

#40 | Posted by danni

Are you really that clueless about history?

A flag is hardly an invention of the 19th century.

Flags are far, far more than a piece of cloth. Perhaps you may not be aware, but pick any flag, do a bit a research, and you will discover that the colors and symbols have great meaning.

Or let's even be a bit more simple: identification of opposing forces, rallying point for the troops.

can we all agree that crapping on a stars and bars is ok at least? What would it mean if that flag /symbol was flown upsidedown?


"What would it mean if that flag /symbol was flown upsidedown?"

I think it looks the same either way.

I lost my ability to pretend that America is always the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Read the real history of this country and you will realize God had nothing to do with it. God might have actually been angry about some of the stuff that we have done while waving that flag.

Based on the first paragraph, it is obvious danni had to "pretend" she lived in a Country that is the land of the free and home of the brave? This cuts way deeper than hatred of the military. Of course one can assume she has never done anything with her freedom other than to complain and criticize. Nor has she proven she is one of the brave. Yet she has always backed the likes of the nutjobs in Iran, Cuba, Venezuela...

The second paragraph is quite compelling as well. She thinks God had nothing to do with history of this Country. Is it any wonder she hates the military? She has no honor, she has never performed any duties, she hates what her Country stands for and she thinks God has no place in our society. Keep these facts in mind when she posts in the future. Ignore and abhor her. Just like I would do in real life if I am confronted by the likes of danni.

"Yet she has always backed the likes of the nutjobs in Iran, Cuba, Venezuela..."

I just ever thought assasination as in the case of Allende was an acceptable means of conducting foreign policy. I guess that is just a bit too complicated of a concept for your simplistic uber nationalism.

"Ignore and abhor her. Just like I would do in real life if I am confronted by the likes of danni."

I work with someone just like you Crispee, he knows that I avoid him like the plague. His simplistic repititions of Rush's ideas is simply too annoying just like yours.

His simplistic repititions of Rush's ideas is simply too annoying just like yours.

I don't blame you for bringing up Rush as a defense here. You have shown your colors and proven your worth. BTW... When I posted Lincoln proving your superior ignorance, was that a simplistic repitition? When I posted articles of Flag Ceremonies and their meaning to the military, was that more simplistic repitition? Or did they prove you are a fucking idiot? Oh thats right ever since 1962 with the Allende incident and the Kent State shooting in 1969 you quit pretending we were the land of the free and home of the brave. Those supercede everything good and brave the military has done. Didn't you also point out your hatred because of oil for wars? Was it 1962? 1969? 1991? 2003? You seem to be all over the map about why you are ashamed of the flag and military. Let's face it, you are ashamed, but your reasons and deflections point to yourself.

#102 | Posted by snoofy

YOU REBEL, YOU!

"When I posted Lincoln proving your superior ignorance, was that a simplistic repitition?"

Ya gotta love the self-retorting retort.

Now it is you who are being fecetious.

#26 | Posted by danni

I LOVE IT! could mean "shitfaced"? ff that, danni.

I work with someone just like you Crispee, he knows that I avoid him like the plague.
Posted by danni

I'll bet it's his lapel flag pin that really pisses you off.

and the Kent State shooting in 1969


actually May 4, 1970

Just saying.

#36 | Posted by jackass

i can hear it now - "you guys please don't beat me up and don't rape my wife and children while i go put my flag upside down in the window!" don't forget to hold them at bay with your car antenna.


"When I posted Lincoln proving your superior ignorance, was that a simplistic repitition?"


Ya gotta love the self-retorting retort.

You gotta love trolls chiming in for no reason other than attention. Of course if you did read all the posts, it is pure stupididty to chime in.

" Of course if you did read all the posts, it is pure stupididty to chime in."

More self-retorts!


And here's a hint: if it's someone else's words, put quotes around them.

"I'll bet it's his lapel flag pin that really pisses you off."

No, it is his typically right wing tendency to start yelling when someone disagrees with him.

Actually I don't see why righties care what happens to the flag now that the country has been turned into a Communist dictatorship.

Actually I don't see why righties care what happens to the flag now that the country has been turned into a Communist dictatorship.

I can't speak for everyone, but it would seem to me that if the country was turned into a communist dictatorship, the flag would be more poignant than ever and a reminder of how things used to be in this country.

And here's a hint: if it's someone else's words, put quotes around them.

Here is a hint: You look like a fool and a desperate troll reaching for anything to write. If you read the threads, you will know who said what and don't need the quotation marks. Thought a professional troll like you would have figured that out by now.

No, it is his typically right wing tendency to start yelling when someone disagrees with him.

You are right. Ignore and abhor is the way to treat the likes of you danni. You don't even deserve a reponse.

I'm a "rightie," and have a huge problem with what the DA did in this case. Most true righties I know are very concerned about freedom of speech issues, and would think this is a bad thing. I've always felt it was the lefties ready to wipe their ass with the Constitution when it served their political purposes - see The Fairness Doctrine.

"You don't even deserve a reponse."

Then why did you???

if the country was turned into a communist dictatorship, the flag would be more poignant than ever and a reminder of how things used to be

A capitalist dictatorship?

"If he wants to protest, let him protest but find a different way to do it," Deschane said.

It's nice when the nitwits confess to their crimes. Seems like Deshane intended to deny the soldier's first amendment rights.

Guidlines for flag display are not laws.

I forgot to mention that this was a violation of the soldier's first AND fourth amendment rights. The right to free expression AND the right to be free from illegal search and siezure.

It is not illegal, it is disrespectful to the memory of those who gave their lives protecting your freedom to protest.


www.ushistory.org

#92 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-07-13 11:54 PM | Reply |

I wonder what some would consider worse. Flying a flag upside down, or taking all those things those people thought they died for and shitting on them.

Do soldiers die for a fucking flag, or what it represented? And if what it represented was a crock of shit on its face. There is nothing anyone can do further to disgrace the flag.

It is not illegal, it is disrespectful to the memory of those who gave their lives protecting your freedom to protest.

I guess I'm not worried too much about the memory of those four students at Kent State who gave their lives for my freedom to protest.

The dead are dead. Let their ghosts haunt me if they don't like what I do with the flag.

wave your colored rags.

---pil

HaHa...conservatives attempting to understand complex ideas.
It always makes me laugh.
...or should I say "not attempting"?

#87 | Posted by RastaCyborg


Yeah, and you're just the picture of intellectualism.

Out of office autoreply:
The Iraqi you're trying to reach will be out of the office forever because they're dead.

#95 | Posted by RastaCyborg

A perfect example of that complexity that you exude. I mean, that was so incredibly original and witty.

How can anyone not see the irony of the largest prison population on the planet and the ridiculous claim of being "the land of the free?"
Go wave your flags and feel patriotic and proud but many Americans, who do love their country, don't have to pretend America is better than it really is to still love it.

#104 | Posted by danni

What the hell does our prison population have to with the freedom in this country? People are in prison because they committed crimes. Are you suggesting that we shouldn't imprison anyone and that would make us truly a free country? Stupid example and point.

More self-retorts!


And here's a hint: if it's someone else's words, put quotes around them.

#120 | Posted by Danforth

How in the hell is that considered a self-retort? Or do you just like saying it because it makes you fit in with the other dolts here who use it to no end?

"How in the hell is that considered a self-retort?"

You're joking, right? Read it again, s-l-o-w-l-y. I'll even highlight the apropos word.

Of course if you did read all the posts, it is pure stupididty to chime in.

Now...what were you saying about dolts?

everyone, including this guy has a right to be an ass. and the rest of us have the right to call him an ass....the end


More self-retorts!


And here's a hint: if it's someone else's words, put quotes around them.


#120 | Posted by Danforth


How in the hell is that considered a self-retort? Or do you just like saying it because it makes you fit in with the other dolts here who use it to no end?

#138 | Posted by everlong at 2009-07-15 06:01 PM

#114 and #119 could apply as self-retorts. Of course it is laughable trolls like danforth think they are in any position to make that call. He couldn't merit any responses, which only adds to the comedy.

" Of course it is laughable trolls like danforth think they are in any position to make that call. "

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. You violate the first rule of blogging, and it's my fault.

Let me guess...Party of Responsibility?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. You violate the first rule of blogging, and it's my fault.

The first rule of blogging should be to read the threads before posting. The fact I didn't put quotation marks in my post doesn't change the fact you were lazy. Or compelled you to troll on a post that had nothing to do with you. Yet that is my fault?

"The fact I didn't put quotation marks in my post doesn't change the fact you were lazy."

Of course not. It means you were lazy. If you don't, folks will think the idiocy you post is actually coming from you.

"Or compelled you to troll on a post that had nothing to do with you"

Gee...I guess I'm the first, and you've never done that once.

Fess up...what's really eating you is I was the one who pointed out the mistakes. Oh, the humanity!

"The first rule of blogging should be to read the threads before posting."

But it's not. It's when insulting someone else's intelligence, don't spell it 'stoopid'.

Or, in your case, stupididty.

Of course not. It means you were lazy. If you don't, folks will think the idiocy you post is actually coming from you.


Please point out the post and prove my so called idiocy. Should be very easy to do. Seeing as it apparently made you want to post #114.

I guess danforth is of the same opinion as danni about the God having nothing to do with our nations birth and rise. Why else would he defend her and post? After seeing a quote by Lincoln disputing her claim no less.

"Why else would he defend her and post? "

Good God, you're a first-class idiot. Where on earth was I taking ANY position on ANYTHING Lincoln said or defending ANYONE? Regarding the first, you fucked up the spelling of repetition while calling out someone's 'ignorance', and the second time, when going after me, you misspelled, of all things, stupidity.

How you got that I was defending Danni, or knocking Lincoln, I'll never know.

well if i was in REAL distress of life or property, i'd call 911, but that's just me.
try flagging down a cop with an upside down flag and see what happens. nothing. except if it's july 4th, and you're a soldier who uses experience as a guide for opinion as opposed to blogs.

Regarding the first, you fucked up the spelling of repetition while calling out someone's 'ignorance',

You are right. Of course the person who I accused of being ignorant spelled it wrong before I did. Which you seemed to have ignored. No excuse. Make sure you spell every word correctly danforth when you hurl your next insult. More danforth blogging 101?

#150

That's enough fighting you two.

Don't make me pull this blog over!!

"Make sure you spell every word correctly danforth when you hurl your next insult."

Oh, I'm sure I'll misspell some words when hurling my next insult. It just won't be while taking anyone to task for their "pure stupididty".

"Which you seemed to have ignored. No excuse. "

Sure there is. If you're not going to put quotes around what someone else said, don't blame others for thinking it was YOUR 'stupididty'.

But what a scream: you go after Danni, but cry like a little girl when it's your ox being gored. Seems you can dish it out, but piss your pants when you're on the receiving end.

Oh, I'm sure I'll misspell some words when hurling my next insult. It just won't be while taking anyone to task for their "pure stupididty".

#152 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-07-15 08:42 PM

I have big fingers and tend to hit a couple of keys. I also have a habit of being lazy and not checking my spelling. Had I known which exact post you were trolling I would have admitted the error and probably laughed. The fact it was spelling mistake makes you look like the little whining troll. Nobody else bothered to make it an issue. Just you and your tucked little juevos. It's not like this isn't the 50th time you have tried to point out any error in my posts.

Which you seemed to have ignored. No excuse. "


Sure there is. If you're not going to put quotes around what someone else said, don't blame others for thinking it was YOUR 'stupididty'.


But what a scream: you go after Danni, but cry like a little girl when it's your ox being gored. Seems you can dish it out, but piss your pants when you're on the receiving end.

The post was NOT meant for you. It did not need quotation marks. You found a mistake and as ususal exploited it for your little pathetic gain. I admitted as much already. Doesn't change the fact you are a fucking little whining troll here. Had you simply ignored instead of butting in, this would have been over.

" The fact it was spelling mistake makes you look like the little whining troll."

The fact it was spelling mistake while you were insulting someone else's intelligence makes you look like you're full of stupididty.

"The post was NOT meant for you. "

That's never been the barometer here, and it never will be. Why are you pretending it is?

"You found a mistake and as ususal exploited it for your little pathetic gain. I admitted as much already"

Huh? By coming after me? It all would have gone away if you'd had thicker skin, ignored it, or laughed about it. Instead, we've now had about a dozen posts talking about your stupididty, and it turns out that while your skin isn't thick, your fingers and skull certainly are.

Huh? By coming after me? It all would have gone away if you'd had thicker skin, ignored it, or laughed about it.

I didn't even know I made the error you stupid fuck. Can't you get that through your fucking thick skull? You troll so fucking much I wasn't sure which post was wrong.

"I didn't even know I made the error you stupid fuck."

But that didn't stop you for coming after me and my "pure stupididty".

But good for you...you spelled all the words right while calling me a 'stupid fuck'. I guess there's hope for you after all!

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