Man what the fuck is wrong with Mormons?

"Man what the fuck is wrong with Mormons?"

Want a list?

Man what the fuck is wrong with Mormons?

Hey, don't fuck with the mormons. They've got magic underwear.

Man what the fuck is wrong with Mormons?

#1 | Posted by GotTruth

Plenty, and it doesn't have anything to do with their beliefs about queers.

"public displays of affection aren't allowed on the property."

I'd love to see the actual law they believe they were enforcing.

LAWSUIT!!!

Righties.....is this grounds for a lawsuit?

.......or is it only OK to sue (repeatedly) if you're going to testify in behalf of republicans during a Judicial Confirmation hearing?

I'm sure the Lambda Legal Defense Fund has already contacted them with an offer of representation.

Fuckin' religions. They just can't stay the fuck out of others people's lives.

Greet you one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen I Peter5:14

Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you. Romans 16:16
American King James Version

Mormons. Maybe there wasn't enough tongue involved.

On what grounds would they sue? They were on private property and refused to leave that was the basis of the arrest.

I don't even see how this is news. If they didnt want to be singled out they probably shouldnt have gone to a Mormon plaza. When in Rome....

"Man what the fuck is wrong with Mormons?"

Want a list?

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don't fucking start me...

"When in Rome...."

"When in Rome, do as you done in Milledgeville"

--Flannery O'Connor

"don't fucking start me..."

#11 | Posted by Shawn at 2009-07-12 04:43 PM | Reply | Flag: ff!

I think gay men should ban together and organize a mass kiss-a-thon on church property in SLC. That would be entertaining.

"That would be entertaining."

Add lesbian couples in drag and straight couples where she's dressed as a man and then it would really get interesting.

"Underwear check!"
~Mormon joke

One more example of gays trying to bash down doors. Poor souls just want to be understood.

"Bring out your men that we might know them!"

meh, its private property so the church could kick anyone out for any reason.

"Man what the fuck is wrong with Mormons?"

That list of 111,742 things that they are obligated to wet their temple garments over.

Those two gay guys should have turned to the security guard and began to sing --

You must remember this
A kiss is still a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by
And when two lovers woo
They still say, "I love you"
On that you can rely
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by
Moonlight and love songs
Never out of date
Hearts full of passion
Jealousy and hate
Woman needs man
And man must have his mate
That no one can deny
it's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by.

" As time Goes By "

Chris, anybody who doesn't know that should be shot; A cultural illiterate.

You must remember this
A kiss is still a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh

Funny Flag for Chris!

"Fuckin' religions. They just can't stay the fuck out of others people's lives."
#8 | Posted by briwo

"on a plaza owned by the Mormon church"....Hard to understand this, isn't it.

"asked them to leave"....Another point hard to understand.

"A gay couple say"....and because they are gay they are truethful, right?

Of course "The men say they were targeted because they are gay."... just a peck on the cheek, right? Because they said so? I hope it was a KODAK moment.

"They became argumentative and used profanity and refused to leave the property," ....lies, I tell ya, lies!!!

"The church has been the target of protests over its support of a ban on gay marriage in California.".... Ahhh, the meat and potatoes. They are there to prove a point on the Moron's own turf.

Oh, yes, your comments are certainly justified.

They were asked to leave the property and they didn't.

The police were called and they received a citation for trespassing.

Can they sue for unlawful arrest or detain??

Based on these facts--unlikely.

Will they try to sue? Sure--why not.

Problem was there was only two of them. They needed a group grope to make the big love crowd feel comfortable.

btw-if two guys kissing on the cheek freak Mormons out, how did the Mittser survive his draft-dodging days in France?

I'm torn on this. I support gay rights, but it's not clear to me from the article that the couple was singled out because they are gay. It was private property, the couple was asked to leave, and they refused. I'm not sure what the plaza looked like, but to me an equivalent would be the old cathedrals in Europe -- covering shoulders, knees, etc. Should the church be able to make you dress a certain way in public or on public property? I don't think so. But if you're going onto their turf, I think it's a sign of respect to act accordingly or not to go.

I lived in Salt Lake City for two years.

1. clean as could be
2. low crime
3. reasonable cost of living
4. overall, very decent folk

Let the liberals go elsewhere with their filth.
LEAVE THE MORMONS ALONE!

I would haved lived there full time, but as a
truck driver, I don't fancy crossing Wyoming (or
the rest of the Rocky Mountains) during the brutal
winters.

MAYBE I'l retire there.
I'm not a Mormon, but I have a healthy
respect for their culture.

Their land their say.

Go find a park homos.

"Their land their say.

Go find a park homos.

#28 | Posted by wurster "

What part of "detain" don't you understand, you ignorant clot?

"Go find a park homos."

And what would you say to a straight couple kissing on Mormon Plaza?

"I'm not sure what the plaza looked like, but to me an equivalent would be the old cathedrals in Europe -- covering shoulders, knees, etc"

That's only when you enter the cathedral. You don't need to wear that shit standing outside.

I wonder how the culture of faggotry would respond if Mormons showed up in San Francisco and engaged in "in your face" behaviors toward the locals?

Such good clean folk those homos!

"I wonder how the culture of faggotry would respond if Mormons showed up in San Francisco and engaged in "in your face" behaviors toward the locals? "

They'd cheer them on.

What's your point?

#31 -- good point.

"Such good clean folk those homos!"

What were they doing that every straight couple doesn't get to do at whim?

To the one who wishing to retire in the sterility of Salt Lake City, have at it with my blessings. Say hello to the lobotomized robots in suits and ties, skirts and heels, who greet you at Temple Square. Don't forget miss the top floor of the visitors' center, a replica of heaven in the middle of which is a plaster Jesus. If you press a button (journalistic ethics prohibit my saying belly button) it speaks to you in scriptural verses. Say hello, too, to Mrs. God in the kitchen, a heaven for women that's ETERNAL pregnancy, the level of which is determined by what your HUSBAND achieved in his life time. And maybe you can greet the poor souls jerked after 500 years by posthumous baptism from their hellish poker games into a funless heaven. herm

Oh, yes, your comments are certainly justified.

#22 | Posted by KBM at 2009-07-12 06:12 PM

How does it being private property lessen the bigotry? What if it was a guy who gave his girl a peck on the cheek? Would the hysterical overeaction still have happened?

man I love watching homophobes squirm.
wass up KBM, did your weenie twitch at the thought?

LOL!! So fucking pathetic.

Theoretically shopping malls are "private property". People ARE watching.

They werent detained LUP:

"Church spokeswoman Kim Farah said in a statement Friday that the men were "politely asked to stop engaging in inappropriate behavior just as any other couple would have been."

"They became argumentative and used profanity and refused to leave the property," she said. The church did not immediately respond to a request for more comment.

Police later arrived and both men were cited with misdemeanor trespassing, Salt Lake City Police Sgt. Robin Snyder said."

And Briwo: private property doesnt lessen the bigotry but bigots have a right to be bigots on their private property.

"bigots have a right to be bigots on their private property."

Not really familiar with law, are you, bunky?

"He said other guards arrived and the men were handcuffed."

Ah, no worries. You're a moron.

#8 | Posted by briwo at 2009-07-12 04:13 PM

I'm sure the Lambda Legal Defense Fund has already contacted them with an offer of representation.

Fuckin' religions. They just can't stay the fuck out of others people's lives.

Just who are the intruders?

It seems to be the two homosexuals who "cannot stay out of other peoples lives" in this instance briwo.

Now you may not subscribe to religious beliefs and practices, but wouldn't it be an intrusion to two homosexuals decide to simulate sexual relations on the altar of a Catholic Church while the Priest is preparing the eucharist?

It seems that the tenor of many of the posters here is that homosexuals instead of "doing their own thing" on their own domain, should instead combine in a mob and create a greater disturbance intruding on the close of other people.

What a hateful and intolerant group.

Some of us may not subscribe to the doctrines of the Chruch of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but they have created a hard-working and honorable and constructive group of people , and a communities in which it is safe to live and in which there is much love.

I suppose that you cosmopolitans who seem to celebrate homosexuality as a sacrament in your addled value system object to a loving, peaceful, and tranquil community. You folks crave excitement. Why not congregate and enjoy the thrills in your own communities rather than delighting in being intrusive upon and disruptive of the lives of others.

You anti-religious bigots are creepy.

"It doesn't matter what they were asked to leave for," Snyder said. "If they are asked to leave and don't they are ... trespassing."

Yes I am very familiar with the law. I think the cop says it rather succinctly right there.

They refused to leave and were handcuffed by guards. That is not the same as being 'detained'.

I've been on the same side of the law as these guys. I've been asked to leave several places for behavior that was deemed immoral by those who owned the property. Once it was for simply holding hands with a woman to whom I wasnt married, that was a church run community center. Another time I was told I wasnt allowed to kiss my girlfriend at a concert I paid to attend. When I objected I was asked to leave, I refused to go without a refund. The police were called and I was subsequently arrested.

I don't condone the Mormon's stance on homosexuality or pda but these guys should have just left. Discretion is the better part of valour.

And as for calling me names it only proves the lack of substance to your argument as well as a lack of maturity.

"You anti-religious bigots are creepy.

#43 | Posted by Johnson "

Really? Substitute "Muslim" for "Mormon" and get back to me. Succinctly.

"it only proves the lack of substance to your argument as well as a lack of maturity.

#44 | Posted by boywondr "

Did you tell that to the Batman when he was all up in your colon?

"were handcuffed by guards. That is not the same as being 'detained'."

Facepalm.

Did you tell that to the Batman when he was all up in your colon?

Wow, a homophobic response!! I wasn't expecting that. Way to show your true colors.

And 'facepalm'. Wonderful retort. When you have a real argument you get back to me.

To the one who wishing to retire in the sterility of Salt Lake City, have at it with my blessings.

#36 | Posted by herm

You're right in your assesment hermoriod.

Low crime.

Yes they have their problems and they are lobotomized robots in suits and ties, skirts and heels.

Complain all you want. As Frank Zappa says, "Davis county, a good place to raise your kids."

"When you have a real argument you get back to me."

When you're worthy of a "real reply" you'll know it.

'Till then, have a steaming mug of Shut The Fuck Up.

...mug of Shut The Fuck Up.

Talk about "read it on a blog somewhere". LOL

What other gems of originality do you have up your sleeve?

Trolling for compliments, ass-face?

Trolling for compliments, ass-face?

"Ass face". Clever.

That's the best you can do? I prefer green tea thanks.

It's not "clever". It's "accurate".

It's not "clever"

In retrospect, I have to agree. No one could ever accuse you of being clever.

Well, not you, anyways. Again, is this where I'm supposed to give a fuck what you think, you retarded grease monkey?

retarded grease monkey?

Where do you keep coming up with these zingers? You must live near a middle school.

herm and others, I'm certainly glad that we have a twofer, a winner for all of us. Those who don't like Utah (and by the way Salt Lake City has become something of a Democrat bastion) stay away. You're happy. The Utahans are happy.

Hard-working, prudent, responsible, and what's the unemployment rate? Low. That's Utah. Balanced budget? That's Utah. Living within your means. That's Utah. Voluntary kindness and charity. That's Utah.

Why don't those of you who find Utah not congenial to you, also invite these two homosexuals who want to act out to your bailiwicks so that they can find folks congenial to the way they seek to live their lives? Maybe you can applaud their public attempt to demonstrate intimacy. In fact, if you're voyeurs, you and their exhibitionism will complement each other's "needs."

Are any of the folks who think being "potty-mouths" demonstrates clever repartee, from Utah? I don't think so. Stay where you're happy.

#57 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-07-12 10:40 PM

Well, not you, anyways. Again, is this where I'm supposed to give a fuck what you think, you retarded grease monkey?

I see the Moron Union is strong as always.

"You must live near a middle school.

#58 | Posted by goatman "

You may graduate from one someday. Keep looking up!

You may graduate from one someday.

Unlikely. I'm way too stupid. But what do I care? I own two houses, made 6 figures last year, have no bills and get 26 weeks off a year.

What will I gain from graduating from middle school?

#61 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-07-12 11:32 PM

I see the Moron Union is strong as always.

Here you used a pejorative without recourse to an obscenity, or a profanity, or a scatological term. Progress.

This is only a blog.
I no more care how many houses you allegedly own or how much money you allegedly made than I care about what color mouse you use. You're a foil, a backstop; a sad, pathetic little man who spends all day slaving over a hot keyboard hoping to "get" someone. You blunder into threads you know nothing about, and if you see a byline that strikes your fancy you come up with some nonsensical non sequiter to prove to us all how "witty" and "intelligent" you are. You know what you are, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You're a rube.

I no more care how many houses you allegedly own or how much money you allegedly made than I care about what color mouse you use

Likewise, I don't care if you use child-like insults like, "Maybe someday you'll graduate from middle school".

Irony escapes you compeletely, doesn't it? LOL

"#64 | Posted by Johnson"

Your assignment for the week is to compile a list of most used phrases in all my posts of the last month, and compare and contrast them in relation to pop culture and the influence of post-modernism on western political thought. No more than 250 words, PLEASE.

You know what you are, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You're a rube.

It screams plagarism when you crib a line from a movie and not quote the source.

BTW, you are right. I'm a rube. So? Don't let it bother you, sweets.

"Irony escapes you "

Not when you're being this ironic it doesn't.
But do take another spin.

"It screams plagarism"

What? Oh.....plagiarism. Sorry, got a bit confused with your rantings. No, see that's actually a little thing known as HUMOR. Using a well known pop culture phrase to illustrate an idea. Now, since I'm aware you can't SPELL the word, you have no idea what it MEANS, so I'll give you a pass on that rather stupid "retort".

But do take another spin

It'd go over your head, too, I'm sure. I can't come up with zingers the zingers like yours:

tiny-penised Republicans
You may graduate from one someday
retarded grease monkey
Goatfuck.
ass-face

Great stuff. *snark*

plagiarism. Sorry, got a bit confused...

Now, since I'm aware you can't SPELL the word, you have no idea what it MEANS, so I'll give you a pass on that rather stupid "retort".

Gee, that's really generous coming from a guy who thinks 'importent' is a word. LOL

READ IT ON A BLOG SOMEWHERE SO IT MUST BE IMPORTENT

Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-07-12 10:20 PM

I see you're just a treasure trove of originality....

"It screams plagarism when you crib a line from a movie and not quote the source."
I'm Goatfuck, if I think it's so it's so!

"You must live near a middle school."
I'm Goatfuck. Even though I used the line first, any attempt at a retort is "great stuff"

"No one could ever accuse you of being clever"
I'm Goatfuck! In one fell swoop I become everyone! I'm so smart! Pay attention to me!!

"Gee, that's really generous coming from a guy who thinks 'importent' is a word. LOL"

I'm Goatfuck! I'm an even bigger spelling Nazi than....than....ANYONE!

Face it cuddles, you're too slow to have fun with.

Face it cuddles, you're too slow to have fun with.

Perhaps that explains your constant state of anger. I recommend you find someone smarter than me to have fun with, then. Angry is no way to go through life. You need to work on that. If it means ignoring me (it was you who addressed me first, if you remember, not the other way around) I suggest you do it. Life's too short to always be unhappy.

Gee, "goatfuck" three times in a post. Now that really drives home the point! LOL

Finally. Plane is here, one hour late. I'll be home at 1:30 or so this morning, and have turn around and go back to the airport 3:05 the same afternoon to go back to the rig (four days early)

Later

Look, who wants to see a couple of homo's kissing? It's inherently gross. Especially if they have beards.

Just a brief attempt to stalk "Johnson" with a few truth squad footnotes:

"Salt Lake City has become something of a Democrat bastion..."

Not total fiction, Rocky Anderson is an articulate mayor. TWO Unitarian Universalist congregations operate there. But don't go expecting to find an oasis, a Castro or Greenwich Village.

"Hard-working, prudent, responsible, and what's the unemployment rate?" Low. That's Utah. Balanced budget? That's Utah. Living within your means. That's Utah. Voluntary kindness..."

The LDS hierarchy does take care of its own, and woe unto those who turn to public assistance. All you need to do to collect is totally mortgage your soul to Mormon gatherings and Mormon beliefs.

"Why don't those who find Utah not congenial also invite these two homosexuals who want to act out to your bailiwicks so that they can find folks congenial to the way they seek to live their lives?"

A variant of the "love ir or leave it" I've heard for so long.

"Folks who think being 'potty-mouths' ...stay where you're happy."

"Johnson" defines another terms. Potty-mouth? Johnson is squeaky clean? herm

"I no more care how many houses you allegedly own or how much money you allegedly made....

#65 | Posted by LetUsPrey"

Mangoat likes to brag about his income on this site. The funny part is, he usually begins or ends his claims by saying that he doesn't like to talk about money. He's an amusing old man, if you can manage somehow to limit your dose.

"Finally. Plane is here, one hour late. I'll be home at 1:30 or so this morning, and have turn around and go back to the airport 3:05 the same afternoon to go back to the rig (four days early)

Later

#78 | Posted by goatman"

As if anyone gives a flying fuck. Jesus Christ, phone a friend already. This ain't Twitter you know.

Johnson,

Those who don't like Utah (and by the way Salt Lake City has become something of a Democrat bastion) stay away. You're happy. The Utahans are happy.

They didn't stay out of my state and did their part to get prop eight passed.

Finally. Plane is here, one hour late. I'll be home at 1:30 or so this morning, and have turn around and go back to the airport 3:05 the same afternoon to go back to the rig (four days early)

Later

Posted by goatman at 2009-07-13 12:28 A

Finally. Plane is here, one hour late. I'll be home at 1:30 or so this morning, and have turn around and go back to the airport 3:05 the same afternoon to go back to the rig (four days early)

Later

#78 | Posted by goatman"

As if anyone gives a flying fuck. Jesus Christ, phone a friend already. This ain't Twitter you know.

#82 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-07-13 01:24 AM | Reply/FLAG: Anxiously keeps checking his watch counting down the minutes until Goatman's next post

#82 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-07-13 01:24 AM | Reply/FLAG: Anxiously keeps checking his watch counting down the minutes until Goatman's next post

You noticed that too?

"You ought to just rent your house out. You're never there. lol "
#84 | Posted by CalifChris

Did he close the curtains and not answer the door again? Lo siento.

Did he close the curtains and not answer the door again? Lo siento.

#87 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-07-13 02:14 AM

I would know, chuckles. I've never set foot in Texas let alone knock on any doors.

"I would know"

That's what I thought.

I would know = I wouldn't know

Mangoat likes to brag about his income on this site. The funny part is, he usually begins or ends his claims by saying that he doesn't like to talk about money.

I don't. The only time I bring it up is when someone denigrates my job or education (as letusBray did the last time). Either you are too stupid to realize that or you do realize that but your insatiable desire to troll is so strong, you ignore the obvious.

I'm having a hard time deciding which it is with you, m'boor.

Hey, my "correction" post counts as being first and ahead of yours. It was a 2:19 p.m tie.

Tie goes to the runner.

"your insatiable desire to troll is so strong, you ignore the obvious"
#91 | Posted by goatman

I think you missed your flight, Trolly McTrollo.

Tie goes to the runner.

#93 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-07-13 02:28 AM

IF you were a gentleman...

IF you were a gentleman...

#95 | Posted by CalifChris

Yankee or Southern Chris?

Well, the Yankees suck and I'm a Cali native, so there you go.

I think you missed your flight, Trolly McTrollo.

I didn't.

The guy who doesn't give a fuck about me worries that I missed my flight. How sweet. And he though he doesn't give a fuck about me, I'll bet he reads my post. LOL

As if anyone gives a flying fuck.

Obviously you did, m'boor, or you wouldn't have read it

(light bulb goes on over m'boor's head. "Why didn't I think of that?" he says. "I'll just stop reading his posts!")

Keep dem neurons oiled, m'boor.

"Did he close the curtains and not answer the door again? Lo siento.
#87 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-07-13 02:14 AM"

"I would know, chuckles.
#88 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-07-13 02:18 AM | Reply | Flag: Freudian Slip

#99 | Posted by goatman at 2009-07-13 02:50 AM | Reply | Flag: Aww, Mangoat cares about my posts; How sweet and creepy

#99 | Posted by goatman at 2009-07-13 02:50 AM | Reply | Flag: Aww, Mangoat cares about my posts; How sweet and creepy

Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-07-13 03:08 AM

Hey, good news, m'boor -- I gained 120 lbs last hitch (the good baker was there). This ought to provide some j/o fodder for a while, huh? LOL

re caring about posts: I noticed that you trolled me long before I addressed you.

How sweet and creepy. LOL

Freudian Slip

#100 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-07-13 03:07 AM | Reply | Flag: was disappointed when he discovered it wasn't something he could wear with his spaghetti strap teddy

Thanks for caring, Mangoat.

Thanks for caring, Mangoat.

Anything for the trolls I own.

"was disappointed when he discovered it wasn't something he could wear with his spaghetti strap teddy

#103 | Posted by goatman"

I guess this counts as comedy for the post-middle-aged. Don't quit your day job, Mangoat.

I guess this counts as comedy for the post-middle-aged

No comedy intended at all.

"No comedy intended at all.

#107 | Posted by goatman"

Even worse effort. Get some sleep, old man, you're slipping from lame to just plain stupid.

Even worse effort.

???

At what?

I think you are the one who needs the sleep, old man. LOL

Well, I'm done pulling your strings for now, Mangoat, so go ahead and take the last word that you crave so much. (Plus, I don't want to cause you to fall below the 20% of total posts that you make here - though I wouldn't be surprised if it's currently closer to 50%.))

Well, I'm done pulling your strings for now, Mangoat,....

That wasn't my string you were pulling, m'boor. It's the same thing you beg me for when you ask me to make you squeal like a pig.

Surely you didn't forget while you were in jail, did you? LOL

Goatman's DVD collection:

A Boy and His Dog
Dial "M" for Murder
Deliverance
Boys in the Band
12th Monkey
One
M

A Boy and His Dog

One helluva movie,haven't heard anyone bring that up in decades.(old man,LOL

if this "plaza" is open to the public, they got problems despite that they own it.

places of public accommodation and usually subject to equal protection laws.

let's just go with what Senator Arnold Schawzaneggar has to say about gay marriages.
"I think that all gay marriages should be between a man and a woman."

MAYBE I'l retire there.
I'm not a Mormon, but I have a healthy
respect for their culture.

#27 | Posted by dean_buvia at 2009-07-12 07:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Closet Mormon.

I wonder how the culture of faggotry would respond if Mormons showed up in San Francisco and engaged in "in your face" behaviors toward the locals?

#32 | Posted by TheOneBS at 2009-07-12 08:12 PM | Reply | Flag

That's already been done by the Mor(m)ons BallSucker, it was called Proposition Hate.

They didn't stay out of my state and did their part to get prop eight passed.

#83 | Posted by dibblda

Scary thought for you Dibblda, there's probably more Mormons in California than there are in Utah. BOO! The "they" you referred to were CA's own citizens. Do you think they shouldn't have gotten a vote in Prop 8?

That's already been done by the Mor(m)ons BallSucker, it was called Proposition Hate.
#117 | Posted by Reagan58

LOL anyone who thinks the Mormons were solely or even primarily responsible for Prop 8 has been drinking the Kool-Aide for a little too long.

"30% of Barack Obama voters voted yes.
61% of Latinos voted yes.
57% of Latinos, Asians, and blacks combined voted yes."

LOL anyone who thinks the Mormons were solely or even primarily responsible for Prop 8 has been drinking the Kool-Aide for a little too long.

"30% of Barack Obama voters voted yes.
61% of Latinos voted yes.
57% of Latinos, Asians, and blacks combined voted yes."

www.ballotpedia.org(2008)

#119 | Posted by bartimus

And what percentage of Mormons voted yes? And what percentage of the funding for Prop 8 was provided through the LDS church and its members?

And what percentage of Mormons voted yes? And what percentage of the funding for Prop 8 was provided through the LDS church and its members?

#120 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

And what percentage of the GLBT community voted no? And what percentage of the funding against Prop 8 was provided through the GLBT community and its members/sympathizers?

Are you suggesting that people and groups *gasp* vote for and provide funding for their own interests? The horror!

Are you suggesting that people and groups *gasp* vote for and provide funding for their own interests? The horror!

#121 | Posted by bartimus

I didn't say that. You were the one who seemed to be trying to claim the LDS church and its members were not major players in the passage of Prop 8.

They were.

And what would you say to a straight couple kissing on Mormon Plaza?

#30 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2009-07-12 08:03 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Depends on whether they were married or not. Also depends on if they were using tongue. If yes, the proper mormon response would be to "go find a hotel." Parks are reserved for the more deviants under mormon rules.

"Are you suggesting that people and groups *gasp* vote for and provide funding for their own interests? The horror!

#121 | Posted by bartimus"

How does gay people marrying each other affect the Mormon Church? Oh yeah, it doesn't.

#122 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Sorry, I may not have been clear - my #119 was directed at #117, who seemed to think Prop 8 was equivilant to Mormons showing up in San Fransisco "engag[ing] in 'in your face' behaviors toward the locals". I was trying to state that there were many many others who supported Prop 8; additionally, most of the Mormons (and "Mormon money") that supported it were Californian themselves.

Yes, the LDS folks DID contribute to Prop 8 passage, but it was neither a "Mormon" bill (not introduced by the LDS Church) nor was it a bill solely or primarily supported/funded by Mormons - hundreds of other entities and millions of other people supported it. Tens of millions of dollars came from other sources. Hope that clarifies things.

Drunken sexual predator and pathological liar forms own church which eventually morphs into the largest business enterprize in the United States. Its wealth is closely tied to the tax free status it enjoys, even though its primary function is business. This is actually a common practice in the USA tax system.

Quote: "public displays of affection aren't allowed on the property."

I'd love to see the actual law they believe they were enforcing. End Quote

The answer is simple, TRESPASSING!

They have rules of appropriate behavior on THEIR PROPERTY. If you violate those rules you will be asked to leave. If you don't, you are TRESPASSING! Their plaza isn't a piece of public property. Therefore, they have the right to enforce their rules on people that choose to enter it. If you enter my property and do something I don't like, I will ask you to leave. If you refuse, I will call the police and have you removed as a trespasser. I won't allow homosexuals to kiss and grope each other on my property, either.

but bob,

what would you do about dogs licking eachother's asses or bees pollinating?

...eventually morphs into the largest business enterprize in the United States...
#126 | Posted by nutcase

LOL Wal-Mart and Exxon have nothing on those Mormons, eh Nutcase? Hyperbole much? Just another talking point...

Let's see a heterosexual Mormon couple go into a San Francisco gay bar wearing "We Support Prop 8" T-shirts and see how they're received. Let's see how long they're allowed to remain. Let's also witness the lawsuits that come from fagdom against the couple for such an irreverent display.

Lawsuits? Goddamn you're stupid.

Its a good bet the Mormon "Non-Profit" owns a good chunk of Wal-Mart & Exxon & Las Vegas, they are the largest landholders in Utah, California, Hawaii, Nevada, Idaho and Florida. All of it completely legal, secret AND tax free which seems to me an ethical violation.

Sure lawsuits. That's how the litigious left works. When a vote doesn't go your way, sue the state and have the courts overturn it. When you spill hot coffee on your lap, sue McDonalds. If you don't like Walmart, sue them for discrimination. When fags are offended, throw a hissy fit in court.

You're fucking retarded, OneBS. But you probably already know that.

And I'd bet you're a hissy fit homo?

All of it completely legal, secret AND tax free which seems to me an ethical violation.
#132 | Posted by nutcase

Then how do you know about it? Also, if it's legal, what's the hang-up? Sheesh, we get it, you don't like Mormons. Quit whining about it and try to change the law if it doesn't suit your beliefs.

"That's how the litigious left works. When a vote doesn't go your way, sue the state and have the courts overturn it"

You mean, like Bush v. Gore?

You mean, like Bush v. Gore?

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Good point.

Yes, the LDS folks DID contribute to Prop 8 passage, but it was neither a "Mormon" bill (not introduced by the LDS Church) nor was it a bill solely or primarily supported/funded by Mormons - hundreds of other entities and millions of other people supported it. Tens of millions of dollars came from other sources. Hope that clarifies things.

You forgot to add the fact it was the Black and Latino vote that made it pass. Would love to see same sex couples hanging around 108th and Central. Or in East LA instead of just the Mormon Churches.

"And I'd bet you're a hissy fit homo?

#135 | Posted by TheOneBS"

You wish, polesmoker.

Im sure someone else has asked this but I didnt see it

so if this is OWNED by mormons what happened to their right to decide what happens on thier property

OH yeah I forgot....liberals..

so if this is OWNED by mormons what happened to their right to decide what happens on thier property

OH yeah I forgot....liberals..

#141 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-07-13 05:51 PM | Reply | Flag

Do you think you can make up the laws for the property you own and the government has no say? Probably. Your past posts indicate such ignorance.

Tax the fuck out of churches and pay for Health Care--they should be happy to contribute.

Old Buffalo Bob is predictable. Take from those who create and save material goods and give the goods to the improvident. Where could you have gotten that idea. Oh yeah. Obama.

It used to be called thievery. but then when the government engaged in the behavior, another name was given to the practice.

#132 | Posted by nutcase at 2009-07-13 04:47 PM

Its a good bet the Mormon "Non-Profit" owns a good chunk of Wal-Mart & Exxon & Las Vegas, they are the largest landholders in Utah, California, Hawaii, Nevada, Idaho and Florida. All of it completely legal, secret AND tax free which seems to me an ethical violation.

By the way, ask TaxMan or someone knowledgeable, but anyway it used to be that religious groups that held other property and businesses were taxed on them just the same as if they were non-religious entities.

Oh, some homophiles including practicing homosexuals, seem to have taken the advice and acted out the fantasies of a blogger on this thread as a group of them (approximately 100) held a "Kiss-in" outside of the plaza. These brave folk elected not to act out on LDS property.

I wonder how much of this orcehstrated drama is intended to affect the candidacy of Mitt Romney, who is actively running for the Presidency. He's intelligent, experienced, well-rounded, has all sorts of positive traits. And he's good-looking, which may attract some of the women voters.

Romney is a man who has the knowledge and experience to salvage the economy, which has been so damaged by the Marxist Obama seeking to impose over state control and a dictatorship of the proletariat. Romney is a man with gravitas, while you can watch the self-absorbed Obama prance and preen. He's like an entertainer and is on his "Denounce America Tour."

Was that Mormon Plaza or MORON plaza?

Man what the fuck is wrong with Mormons?

They're delusional control freaks for the most part.

More of a cult than a proper religion, really.

Be Well.

johnson,

Yes, they are generally honest, hard working, well educated and thrifty. Those individuals pay tax, like the r3est of us and tithing. But the "Non-Profit" Corporation posing as a Church is a piece of paper and an IBM mainframe computer. A royal scam against the people of the United States.

Just like Wall Street, all their finances are top secret. How the fuck do you tax much less regulate a secret? They do not pay tax. They use the rest of us for free.

#147 | Posted by zeke
#148 | Posted by dethspud

More idiotic sniping from the bushes, I see.

How the fuck do you tax much less regulate a secret? They do not pay tax.

#149 | Posted by nutcase

And current US law allows this. Nothing illegal is happening (you even admit this in your #132 post). Again, quit whining and moaning about legal practices and work to change the freakin' law if it bothers you so much. Posting anonymously on a blog ain't gonna do it for you.

Is the "let's bash the Mormons" party over or did y'all want to stay off topic and show your intolerance a little longer?

I lived in Salt Lake City for two years.
1. clean as could be
2. low crime
3. reasonable cost of living
4. overall, very decent folk
Let the liberals go elsewhere with their filth.
LEAVE THE MORMONS ALONE!

"I would haved lived there full time, but as a
truck driver, I don't fancy crossing Wyoming (or
the rest of the Rocky Mountains) during the brutal
winters."

MAYBE I'l retire there.
I'm not a Mormon, but I have a healthy
respect for their culture.
#27 | Posted by dean_buvia at 2009-07-12 07:52 PM

Mormon and Christian enclaves are renowned for child abuse, as are many religiously separate communities. Quakers do not have state police, nor did the Rashneeshee. They have their own police. Like any large corporation vulnerable to attack tend towards - internal security is fundamental to external exclusion.

Yes, their gardens are "kept".

Continually reprising the base philosophy and similarly emphasizing cultural monochromatic tendencies it does appear that Mormon are also being "tribalized".

Their anti-gayness is awful. Some institutionalize and electrocute their children to "relieve" them of this burden. They don't need to kick them out for not conforming to Mormon theology, but they often have. Families of gay children are privately, internally destroyed for religious "cause".

I should say that people do no longer believe that the books, philosophizing and whatnot are able to reconcile these truths.

Mormon and Christian enclaves...
#152 | Posted by redlightrobot

Do you even know the difference between mainstream Mormonism and "Mormon enclaves" (hint: they are not longer affiliated with mainstream Mormonism)? Your post would indicate that you are quite ignorant of those differences.

*Sigh* Was it silly that these folks were detained over a kiss? Yep, it probably was. But they probably should have just left instead of getting beligerant and causing a scene. Interesting that a thread about a gay kiss brings up allegations of child abuse, treating women as "chattel", and militaristic abuse toward mainstream Mormonism. Especially when none of these claims can be verified by any non-whackjob source...

Mormon and Christian enclaves...
#152 | Posted by redlightrobot

Do you even know the difference between mainstream Mormonism and "Mormon enclaves" (hint: they are not longer affiliated with mainstream Mormonism)? Your post would indicate that you are quite ignorant of those differences.
*Sigh* Was it silly that these folks were detained over a kiss? Yep, it probably was. But they probably should have just left instead of getting beligerant and causing a scene. Interesting that a thread about a gay kiss brings up allegations of child abuse, treating women as "chattel", and militaristic abuse toward mainstream Mormonism. Especially when none of these claims can be verified by any non-whackjob source...
#154 | Posted by bartimus at 2009-07-14 03:32 PM

Hint: the homosexual transgressors were handcuffed and removed from the premesis by a group of Mormon bigots, NOT police. Not one Mormon stood up to defend them, so you are right - it's hard to know what's "affiliated with mainstream Mormonism".

I won't allow homosexuals to kiss and grope each other on my property, either.

#127 | Posted by Vancouver_Bob

Not even if they are both ultra-hawt babes?

(I'd post y'a some pics but that would be NSFW.)

What's wrong with private property? If they say no displays of affection, then that means no displays of affection.

I was in a Cathedral in France some years back and was holding my wife's hand as we walked through. A priest stopped us and speaking in French, managed to explain to us that wasn't allowed. (I don't know if that's a Catholic thing or a French thing)

But, we just parted hands and said "thank you."

It's their property.. if you visit follow their rules or leave. If not, then the cops can come get you.

I own my building, and I don't let people smoke it in it. Big deal.

Hint: the homosexual transgressors were handcuffed and removed from the premesis by a group of Mormon bigots, NOT police. Not one Mormon stood up to defend them, so you are right - it's hard to know what's "affiliated with mainstream Mormonism".
#155 | Posted by redlightrobot

Hint: they were handcuffed and removed from the premesis by SECURITY GUARDS (not "Mormon bigots", guards doing their job to enforce the rules), who are often empowered to detain folks until the real police arrive. If I were to break the rules where I work, the security guards would have every right to either ask me to leave or detain me till the police arrived. No difference in this situation. Why would Mormons stand up to "defend" someone when they were obviously being beligerant and disrespectful? Do you defend the drunk folks who are escorted out of bars when they're being beligerant (by those bigotted bouncers to boot!)? You're just like Nutcase - if you don't like the rules, work to change them - quit whining about how unfair you think the situation is.

NOT police.
#155 | Posted by redlightrobot

Oh, did you read the article? They were also cited by the police for tresspassing. Clearly they were in the wrong legally.

Hint: the homosexual transgressors were handcuffed and removed from the premesis by a group of Mormon bigots, NOT police. Not one Mormon stood up to defend them, so you are right - it's hard to know what's "affiliated with mainstream Mormonism".
#155 | Posted by redlightrobot

Hint: they were handcuffed and removed from the premesis by SECURITY GUARDS (not "Mormon bigots", guards doing their job to enforce the rules), who are often empowered to detain folks until the real police arrive. If I were to break the rules where I work, the security guards would have every right to either ask me to leave or detain me till the police arrived. No difference in this situation. Why would Mormons stand up to "defend" someone when they were obviously being beligerant and disrespectful? Do you defend the drunk folks who are escorted out of bars when they're being beligerant (by those bigotted bouncers to boot!)? You're just like Nutcase - if you don't like the rules, work to change them - quit whining about how unfair you think the situation is.
#158 | Posted by bartimus at 2009-07-14 05:00 PM

A public plaza that happens to be privately owned by the Mormon church should forbid people looking or behaving in a certain way? Should they also disallow loud clothing? What other non-harmful manner of personal expression should be forbidden? These two were keeping to themselves on their way home from a concert, the bigot Mormon guards made this into a public spectacle.

To hell with any church that "illegalizes" innocent displays of affection!

A public plaza that happens to be privately owned by the Mormon church should forbid people looking or behaving in a certain way? Should they also disallow loud clothing?
#160 | Posted by redlightrobot

Private Property rights, anyone? they own the land, they make the rules. How much simpler can you make it? Don't like it? Don't go there. Simple, right?

To hell with any church that "illegalizes" innocent displays of affection!
#160 | Posted by redlightrobot

See, there you go again. I thought the discussion was on what was legal and you go and change the goal posts to what you consider to be right. What gives you the right to say what is right and wrong? The fact that it was private property and the US respects private property rights gives the Mormon Church a say in what's right and wrong on their own land.

To hell with any church that "illegalizes" innocent displays of affection!
#160 | Posted by redlightrobot

See, there you go again. I thought the discussion was on what was legal and you go and change the goal posts to what you consider to be right. What gives you the right to say what is right and wrong? The fact that it was private property and the US respects private property rights gives the Mormon Church a say in what's right and wrong on their own land.
#162 | Posted by bartimus at 2009-07-14 05:32 PM

Common fucking sense, that's my authority.

This was taken too far, and the Mormons should not have the power to deny people a peck on the cheek. That's sick and wrong, I don't equate the behavior with any personal risk to anyone, anyplace at any time whatsoever.

They were not inside of a "sacred house of worship" and were passing through the paved plaza that spreads across downtown. Unless it's an enclosed space and there is proof of personal detriment of any kind the Mormon church should not have the authority to deny anyone an innocent kiss on their cheek.

It's seriously unfortunate that so much of the public grounds in Salt Lake City are privately owned by the Mormon church. Apparently you can't walk home without treding through a danger zone.

their property, their right. does the state have a rule against discrimination on sexual orientation? if so, they may have a problem. if not, then they can do whatever they damn well want - as stupid as it may be.

their property, their right. does the state have a rule against discrimination on sexual orientation? if so, they may have a problem. if not, then they can do whatever they damn well want - as stupid as it may be.
#164 | Posted by somoco at 2009-07-14 07:54 PM

I concede since this publicly used area is technically for the Mormon church exclusively it should be marked as such if it isn't already. Can they have out of door rules whereby their interconnection with the city supercedes common law? Seriously, city planners must be Mormon.

Wrong-thinking leads to fascistic displays where a kiss gets you cuffed.

These homosexuals certainly seem to want the world to be molded to accommodate their peculiarities. What an intrusive group of unfortunates, who parade their impairment as if it were a badge that positively distinguished them.

Okay. Your psychological urges are not compatible with your biological structure. Bully for you. Go live your lives of quiet desperation - quietly.

Go live your lives of quiet desperation - quietly.

#166 | Posted by Johnson at 2009-07-14 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag: Should take own advice.

I wonder how many straight couples have similarly been repremanded for innocent public affection, then publicly desciminated against? A kiss on the cheek getting anyone handcuffed offends me far more than the Mormon utterly imaginary take on ethnicity, sexuality, history and any purported Biblical revisionism. Even their predisposition toward re-dedicating generations of civil war graves to increase their annual census is less acerbic than the plaza's moronic goon squads desire to uphold the failed letter of Mormon law, rather than any "modernized", rational or tolerable version. This is obvious hostility toward gay people.

#163 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2009-07-14 05:55 PM

This was taken too far, and the Mormons should not have the power to deny people a peck on the cheek. That's sick and wrong, I don't equate the behavior with any personal risk to anyone, anyplace at any time whatsoever.

Go back to your closets, and do what you will. Just stop intruding your behavior into the lives of other people. That's a fair trade-off. I supported decriminalizing homosexual behavior despite cautions regarding a "slipperly slope," and the aggressiveness of homosexuals who would try to extend decriminalization into normalization and then demand "rights" to be considered normal, and then to have other groups deprived of rights if those groups such as the Boy Scouts did not respond positively to homosexual demands.

Maybe things have come to the sorry pass where the normals need to fight back rather than passively respond to the intemperate demands of homosexuals. The homosexuals have entrenched themselves and defined the turf to be contested seemingly unaware that their behavior can again be criminalized if they rile up too many people with their insatiable "demands." Maybe instead of "gay marriage," the new battle will be regarding criminalization of certain activities between same sex persons.

"the intemperate demands of homosexuals"

aka equality.

If homosexuals seek to provoke a fight, they may get it. But it may be about matters other than those they sought. "The closet" as a place for them to cavort may end up being a concession to homosexuals, a "don't ask," "don't tell" refuge for homosexuals in civilian society with negative sanctions for observed overt homosexual behavior or practices.

Thank goodness THIS didn't happen in Mormonville!

#170 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-07-14 10:00 PM

"the intemperate demands of homosexuals"

aka equality.

These homosexuals certainly seem to want the world to be molded to accommodate their peculiarities. What an intrusive group of unfortunates, who parade their impairment as if it were a badge that positively distinguished them.
Okay. Your psychological urges are not compatible with your biological structure. Bully for you. Go live your lives of quiet desperation - quietly.
#166 | Posted by Johnson at 2009-07-14 09:41 PM

Heya, it's been a while since I've responded to your posts. I know that we can never see eye to optic sensor, but it's interesting how discolored this entire affair truly is. I mean, you are defending Mormons. How quaint. Slow day at the Djibouti Child Symposium or are the trucks already too full?

Imo, no American citizen should ever be detained for a peck on the cheek, under almost any circumstances. I just can't realistically equate this behavior with anything immoral or wrong. It's a commonly used greeting throughout the entire world. Do Mormon not touch each other unless it's for sexual intercourse? Do they believe that a peck on the cheek is precursor to anal penetration by these two dudes? Why are there "no innocent contact" rules whatsoever? If these two dudes weren't practicing Mormon then what Mormon law is actually being broken?

They were walking home, apparently not making out.

"The harsh reality is Danforth, that homosexuals are not "the same," and cannot be "equal.""

The first part of your sentence is correct; the second isn't.

btw, you're not just closeted, you're a closeted screamer. The lady doth protest too, too much.

If homosexuals seek to provoke a fight, they may get it. But it may be about matters other than those they sought. "The closet" as a place for them to cavort may end up being a concession to homosexuals, a "don't ask," "don't tell" refuge for homosexuals in civilian society with negative sanctions for observed overt homosexual behavior or practices.
#171 | Posted by Johnson at 2009-07-14 10:01 PM

Which "practices" might that be in this instance? Kissing on the cheek?!

What is their perversion? They did NOTHING. Mormons acted VICIOUSLY.

btw, you're not just closeted, you're a closeted screamer. The lady doth protest too, too much.

"cannot be "equal.""

Why not, under the law?

Isn't the promise "all men are created equal"? Where, specifically in that phrase, is the exception for gays?

#172 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-07-14 10:03 PM

Thank goodness THIS didn't happen in Mormonville!

www.flickr.com

And if they were "kissing," it would be just as repugnant as two male homosexuals engaging in such an unnatural act.

The homosexuals seem to be focused on the LDS despite the fact that numerous other churches opposed them, and that minority groups resoundingly voted against homosexual aspirations that the government indulge their pretenses.

Why did the homosexuals single out the LDS as the particular group they seek to lambaste for denial of their search for validation with a government imprimatur in California? The elitist Court said "yes" to homosexual pretenses, but the people with their incisive intuitional response recognized the inanity of the illusions of homosexuals and denied them the validation they sought.

Ah, the eye of the beholder. To a heterosexual, Rogue, it appears that one man is whispering something to the other. Apparently to the homosexual, it appears that they are "kissing." Look at the picture more closely Rogue.

And if they were "kissing," it would be just as repugnant as two male homosexuals engaging in such an unnatural act.

#179 | Posted by Johnson

Here dumb ass. Whisper this...

Better angle, possibly later if it is the same scene. Just as repugnant, Rogue, as any two men osculating. Disgusting.

Good, I'm glad I could make your evening for you.

I'll spare you the one involving tongue.

#178 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-07-14 10:12 PM

"cannot be "equal.""

Why not, under the law?

Isn't the promise "all men are created equal"? Where, specifically in that phrase, is the exception for gays?

Does the phrase mean that every man is the same height and can reach high or low shelves with equal facility? Or that men being equal, are all as adept as basketball players.

Gays are "equal" in that they are empowered to engage in the same normal activity. When their activity is out of range of normalcy, all men are again equal since gay or normal, a man seeking intimacy with another man is a biological exception, and is treated as such - equally. You are trying to by fiat declare equivalency in the law between behaviors that are not equivalent.

.. Why did the homosexuals single out the LDS as the particular group they seek to lambaste for denial of their search for validation with a government imprimatur in California? The elitist Court said "yes" to homosexual pretenses, but the people with their incisive intuitional response recognized the inanity of the illusions of homosexuals and denied them the validation they sought.
#179 | Posted by Johnson at 2009-07-14 10:13 PM

Why do the LDS bother excluding homosexuals? Why do they torment themselves with this futile "duty" to "cleanse from impurities and immoral behavior" they are perfectly able to tolerate without a whimper? It's because they selectively worship the Bible attempting to shield themselves with mistranslated, unfathomably dismal societal bindings of a long-dead cultural war they have no idea about which was invented, let alone fought or end. Christianity, Judaism and Islam's many faces will eventually die off entirely only to be observed as a legacy of lies and political control - which is what they mainly represent to this day. Love and tolerance - they are even less observable in this particular Christian sect where touching is forbidden and they all dress, act and think alike.

Homosexuality has nothing to do with kissing anyone on the cheek - these are basic rights of expression the Mormons are condemning. Don't you feel slightly unnerved by their intention of forcing everyone to obey Mormon code of conduct, non-Mormon included? Don't you see their corporate structure as having a vested interest in creating an easy target amid the gay population? They obviously do, or they would not have donated millions toward their discrimination in an entirely different State.

#182 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-07-14 10:29 PM

Good, I'm glad I could make your evening for you.

I'll spare you the one involving tongue.

Weak.

"Because there isn't biological equivalency."

And again, where is that caveat in the Declaration?

"Does the phrase mean that every man is the same height and can reach high or low shelves with equal facility? Or that men being equal, are all as adept as basketball players."

Nothing to do with law. Nothing.

"You are trying to by fiat declare equivalency in the law between behaviors that are not equivalent."

But we're not taking about behaviors, we're talking about law. In one case, two people want to enter into a preferential legal contract granting superseding rights. In another case, two people want to enter into a preferential legal contract granting superseding rights. Equivalent.

Better angle, possibly later if it is the same scene. Just as repugnant, Rogue, as any two men osculating. Disgusting.
#181 | Posted by Johnson at 2009-07-14 10:25 PM

For your headstone "Dentibus in oris bestia." Of course you'll actually be incinerated, but really should pay those craftsmen anyhow.

Don't you feel these Mormon are violating Americans Constitutional rights?

"God, save me from your followers."

Don't you feel slightly unnerved by their intention of forcing everyone to obey Mormon code of conduct, non-Mormon included?
#184 | Posted by redlightrobot

On their own property? Not at all. Does it unnerve you, even a little, that I don't allow my neighbors to come into my house and smoke? Private Property, Redlight, private property. Since I own my property, I get to make the rules. Since the Mormons own the plaza, they too get to make the rules, regardless of what you think is right or wrong. They were legally entitled to what they did (see quotes from the POLICE CHIEF if you're in doubt)

And these fellows weren't detained for a kiss, they were detained for failing to leave the premesis when asked a.k.a. tresspassing.

Wrong-thinking leads to fascistic displays where a kiss gets you cuffed.

#165 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT AT 2009-07-14 09:38 PM | REPLY | FLAG

I dunno. I think fascistic displays are when the government starts telling us what we can and cannot tolerate on land that is private property.

The only thing that does bug me, in all honesty, is that these guys get an IRS tax break. I'd like to say that that should subject them to some governmental regulation on stuff like this. But, if you take that position, then you get into forcing the Catholic Church to have female priests, etc... I'm not sure that's the right road to go down.