.....another desrving Darwin Award Candidate........

Just saw the video.

Oops, I meant Skizzkis not arcade. Sorry

Crisis

......if a guy is stupid enough to voluntarily run in front of a bull, then he deserves whatever he gets......

.......likewise I lack sympathy for bull fighters, you take the chance, sometimes you pay the price........

RCADE is right. We should have no sympathy for people who die doing such dangerous things. When they climb a mountain and get in trouble they expect someone else to risk their life to save them. They are stupid, selfish risk takers.

Shit happens.

So that's what they mean when they say,"You mess with the bull, you get the horn." now I can get some sleep over that phrase.

FF for ZEKE

They are stupid, selfish risk takers.

#5 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-07-10 08:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

You're right. The world would be better served if everyone stayed at home and did fuck all.

Nice to see the bulls finally win one. On Wall Street, it's carnage as usual for them.

It's always been my dream to run in Pamplona. And to jump out of an airplane without a parachute. And to get into a cage with hungry tigers. And to play Russian roulette while high on cocaine. Anybody know where I can pick up a handgun and a couple of lines?

About halfway down they have the video of the guy getting gored, it's pretty fucking sweet.

"You're right. The world would be better served if everyone stayed at home and did fuck all."

Where did he say that?

There's a different between taking a risk to achieve a legitimate goal and taking a risk because you want to say you're some kind of badass who ran with the bulls.

Tormenting animals for the sake of your own ego is stupid and selfish.

@cbob

"""Where did he say that?"""

implied by:

"""We should have no sympathy for people who die doing such dangerous things. When they climb a mountain and get in trouble they expect someone else to risk their life to save them."""

You're killin' me, Pancho! (and what a mess!)

Bulls 1, Slightly Too Slow Thrill Seekers 0

Pancho - So saying people who do take stupid risks should deal with the consequences of their actions implies that everyone should stay home all day?

Guess which character from the Wizard of Oz you're reminding me of.......

Guess which character from the Wizard of Oz you're reminding me of.......

#18 | Posted by Sully at 2009-07-10 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

No. I'm saying that people who at times take stupid risks should be celebrated.

Guess which characters from the Muppet Show you're reminding me of...think balcony.

"No. I'm saying that people who at times take stupid risks should be celebrated."

Well you can say it without misrepresenting what people who disagree with you have said.

You're entitled to your opinion. Mine is that I don't like people who need to torment animals to validate themselves. I celebrate when the animal wins.

As far as other stupid risk takers, my opinion largely depends on the potential for those risks to affect other people. Someone who endangers others playing "look at me" is an asshole.

""Well you can say it without misrepresenting what people who disagree with you have said.""

You should apply the same standards to yourself, judge wapner.

"You should apply the same standards to yourself, judge wapner."

I do. Show me an example of me doing that and I'll admit I was wrong. I know I've done it before and when it was pointed out I admitted it.

I don't know why your panties are in a bunch over this. You know that you mistated the other position intentionally.

No panties, no knots. I've responded to your posts on an even tone and manner, you seem to be the one with high levels of humidity in your depends. I did not so much "mistate" as I think you misread or misunderstood.

"""Show me an example of me doing that"""

Here's an example:

"""Pancho - So saying people who do take stupid risks should deal with the consequences of their actions implies that everyone should stay home all day?"""

Feel free to respond, but I'm already bored with this.

If you mess with the bull, he will give you the horn.

There's a different between taking a risk to achieve a legitimate goal and taking a risk because you want to say you're some kind of badass who ran with the bulls.

Tormenting animals for the sake of your own ego is stupid and selfish.

#13 | Posted by Sully

Absolutely 110% correct.
Thank you Sully for expressing what some of us on here feel.

Why not point a toy gun at a New York cop?

Go swimming in the back of a cement truck?

Or something equally as stupid?
ONLY 15 dead since 1927? Well-gee whiz-I'm sure no one misses them....

"Here's an example:

"""Pancho - So saying people who do take stupid risks should deal with the consequences of their actions implies that everyone should stay home all day?"""

Feel free to respond, but I'm already bored with this."

Given posts #9 and #15, I don't see how I mistated your position.

I'm not bored at all. I find your sophism fascinating.

RCADE is right. We should have no sympathy for people who die doing such dangerous things. When they climb a mountain and get in trouble they expect someone else to risk their life to save them. They are stupid, selfish risk takers.

#5 | POSTED BY FWTHOM AT 2009-07-10 08:41 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

You must be a really fun guy. I admire people who take these risks and challenge themselves. These are the same folks who take risks in business that provide jobs, food, and innovation in America.

If you want to live a risk-free (read "dull") life, have at it. Don't piss on these guys though.

I'm not bored at all. I find your sophism fascinating.

#27 | Posted by Sully at 2009-07-10 12:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

I find your obsessive need to delve into semantics rather useless.

@ somoco,

watch out, sully might want to take you to task for celebrating free-thought and adventurers.

@cbob

fun.drno.de

#14 | Posted by panchovilla

I can't even do that!

As for this Bull--

This is a ghastly 'sport'. And I use that term loosely.

They are leading the bulls to the arena to be killed for sport.

It is on the same level as dog fighting.

Risk taking!!!!Thrill seekers!!!

Is that what ignorant American's think of San Fermines.

About 5 years ago I ran with the masses in Pamplona on a beautiful Monday morning. As I neared the entrance I bailed out and climbed the wood fence on the left side. Good thing too. In the narrow entrance, runners fell forming a huge pile. When the bulls arrive, it was carnage. 8 runners ended up in hospital including one legendary running I wish not to name. I saw him on the floor with 3 or 4 medics administrating first aid and let me tell you, I never seen I guy in such pain. He came out OK from surgery and doesn't miss a run. For me, it was basically "been there done that" experience because I just don't have it in the blood. But the diehards just need have to go each year.

I have mixed views on Spanish Bullfighting. While I wouldn't be caught dead in a serious Bullfighting ring, I really do enjoy watching the runs and my San Fermines trip was fantastic. Strangely, my favorite part of the whole experience was the 6 PM corrida in the Plaza de Toros. Why? Because those sitting in the sun (about 30% including me) don't even realize there is a Matador present. It's one big wild party with sangria, cava, cerveza and food bombardment. Some big name Torreros won't participate in Pamplona for that reason.

I agree that killing the bulls in the ring should be banned. Yet on my desk at work is a photo of me in beautiful red and white and it brings me smiles each and everyday.

Crisis

"watch out, sully might want to take you to task for celebrating free-thought and adventurers."

LOL. I have nothing against either. My thoughts certainly aren't as predictable as yours.

Adventurers are people who go out and do their own thing. The running of the bulls is a manufactured situation in a controlled environment. I'd consider it a harmless diversion for people who lack originality if they weren't tormenting terrified animals in the process. The people who do this crap aren't your entrepreneurs. They're the assholes who come in with the money and buy out the entrepreneur.

"""LOL. I have nothing against either. My thoughts certainly aren't as predictable as yours."""

Funny. I took a bet with myself that you couldn't resist re-posting with a facile response...bingo.

I agree with the bull thing, but when folks lump all adventurers in the same sack, I think their too-cautious-approach to life might make them miss out on some of its magic. Hence my original post, which apparently started this whole clumsy exchange.

When they climb a mountain and get in trouble they expect someone else to risk their life to save them. They are stupid, selfish risk takers.

#5 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-07-10 08:41 AM | Reply | Flag: COUCH POTATO PUSSBOY

That was cool. Dude got what he deserved. Go Bulls! (Except Chicago Bulls - fuck them.)

You have the right to be an imbecile. Otherwise we'd have to lock up the reichwing.

For all those wannabe adventurers, I have a offer for you. Want to live a life of danger? Go talk to your local military recruiter and see if you have the balls to become a Navy Seal, Army Ranger, Green Beret, Fleet Marine Force, or other special ops trooper. Try dodging an enraged, armed to the teeth Taliban platoon if you want some adrenaline action.....

Out where I come from, only candy asses and city boys run from a bunch of cows.....Hook 'em, horns....

Combine this with the Hemingway thread and we'd have "The Sun Also Rises" DR style!

Are these animals receiving respect from the runners or are they being teased? If it was the latter the victim got what he deserved.

These fools could have done some useful risk taking for their country in the military. Instead many of these spoiled brat Grosse Point Blanks traveling Europe on daddy's credit card think it's cool to torment bulls while they are running away from them because some other fools have been doing that stupid shit since 1924. These fraternity Lake Forrest suburban weenies can go back to college and impress the Tri Delts with their false bravado.

The Pamplona bull run and the participants, for the most part, respect the bulls. Some even worship them.

That's Pamplona. Other parts of Spain is a different story. For example, in the south you have open to the sea capellas (amateur small size bulls) where the participants throw themselves into the Mediterranean as the bull comes charging. Many times the bull does not stop in time and falls into the water which is the object of this gross game. They come out OK and are ready for the next round.

One other utterly despicable practice, strongly prohibited but still occurring, is tying roman candles to bulls horns. Talk about a raging bull.

Crisis

so is there ANYONE here who may actually feel sorry for this guy??

I mean come on....you run with the bulls and are ..what..>SURPRISED that one gores you to death???