Behind every good man there is a woman, and that woman was Martha Washington, man, and everyday George would come home, she would have a big fat bowl waiting for him, man, when he come in the door, man, she was a hip, hip, hip lady, man.

All ship sails, Levis, rope, paper, many different types of textile were made of hemp. Ford even made a car out of hemp. The first diesel motors were designed to run on hemp oil diesel
It was the most useful plant in the world before the western media, the timber industry and the oil industry turned it into the evil weed, and banned it to the nether world.

Funny that the new environ-mental movement doesn't promote hemp. Since hemp would save the US economy, and solve the oil problem.

To bad the basic stupid American believes every lie the media tells them.

Accordingly, they raised it in mass quantities.

Was it all for their personal consumption, or did they have the intent to distribute?

Didn't George Washington say: "This is some good shit"

Didn't George Washington say: "This is some good shit"

#4 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-07-05 03:43 PM |

Yes.

I believe he did.

Morons...
Brainwashed, delusional, and weak minded.
You dumb asses have no idea about your own history and heritage.
If you pussies had 1/10th the ball Washington had you would already be organizing, and resisting the tyrant.

Hemp is not marijuana necessisarily. It has a low THC level. But I am sure the founders would have thought pot a great thing, being rum consumption in those days was gallons per year for the typical American.
Was it a silver dollar Washington threw across the Potomac or is that a cover story for something else he threw just as the cop's cherries lit up to pull him over?

I needs me some of that middle earth Shire weed.

'Dude, let's start a revolution against that King dude.', said a red eyed Madison.

Bwahahahaha, wtf are you talking about Madison?, coughed out John Jay.

'I mean revolution dude, like freedom to practice god things and like tax stuff and shit.'

You two goofs are frickin high bro, now pass that damn bowl, you're treading on my high and I need to gets my Hamilton on.

But I am sure the founders would have thought pot a great thing, being rum consumption in those days was gallons per year for the typical American
Yes, they were still drawing up the plans for the water purification systems....idiot.

#8 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-07-05 05:53 PM | Reply | Flag

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Can't wait until rcade posts a story Honor Our Gun Toting Patriot Heroes

You'd probably die first.

midtowncowboy, was there some personal insult I directed toward you or is it just your lack of breeding that provoked your response?

Honor Our Hemp-Raising Patriot Heroes

Do you want to honor them and call them "patriot heroes" because they raised hemp? Or are you suggesting that somehow because they happened to be patriots and heroes in one aspect of their lives that somehow it means the other aspects of their life should be colored by the same light? If so I must remind you that many of those hemp-raisers also owned slaves.

Or maybe you think that it is just incidental that they are patriots and that some of them also happened to raise hemp. If so, then the title of the thread baffles me as to why you would bother to put them together like that as if one has to do with the other.

Irregardless, I support the legalization of hemp growing AND marijuana. I just think a thread with this title is a fallacious one.

If you pussies had 1/10th the ball Washington had you would already be organizing, and resisting the tyrant.

#6 | Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-07-05 05:36 PM |

.....said the Pussy who fled to douchemark.

Funny that the new environ-mental movement doesn't promote hemp.

The environmental movement has been promoting hemp for years, Jeff. Just because Alex Jones hasn't mentioned it,that doesn't mean it ain't been happening.

Funny that the new environ-mental movement doesn't promote hemp.

Because the "new environmental movement" is a corporate entity looking to increase cost through new "green" technology and Hemp is something we can grow on our own without any profit to them.

It was what rope was made from.

damn it:

well, that one works. sorry for all the attempted posts.

Can't wait until rcade posts a story Honor Our Gun Toting Patriot Heroes

Different situations, snarkman. Gun-toting is legal now and was legal then. Growing help is illegal now and was legal then. Compare and contrast.

"Growing help"

Sounds like a plan!
Good help is hard to find.
What kind of fertilizer is best?

Er, growing hemp. I was smoking help when I made that comment earlier.

The founding fathers were brave intelligent pioneering practical men completely unlike the cowardly stupid momma boy ivory tower lib pussy pot smokilng posters on DR.

If you had measles you would feel like you are going to die, you would have red spots all over and you would have a sore throat and fever. There is nothing more obvious than measles. Also don't go to the doctor and spread that shit. Stay home in bed, drink plenty of fluids and either survive or die.

Luckikly I am related to ancestors who survived measles as did I unlike those poor native American fucks.

#24 | POSTED BY RCADE

#25 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI

I just assumed RCADE was referring to the breeding of slaves, Jefferson-style. Growing "help."

If you pussies had 1/10th the ball Washington had you would already be organizing, and resisting the tyrant.

#6 | Posted by JeffnDenmark

But Jeff, we are complacent and have everything we need. Why would we screw that up? People will need to be starving before you see a revolt.

"If you pussies had 1/10th the ball Washington had you would already be organizing, and resisting the tyrant.

#6 | Posted by JeffnDenmark"

Of course, it goes without saying that the real, real men among you would have up and fled to a socialist Euro country, where you would do more to upset the inequities of the U.S. gov't than all the rest of the plain old real men combined.

JeffnDenmark

The founding fathers were brave intelligent pioneering practical men

#27 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-07-06 03:16 PM |

Something you know nothing about Farce Warrior Thommy.

Chuck Taylor Allstars

Kannabis (Greek) = Canvas = Cannibis

before 1860? (steam engine?) the world economy sailed under hempen sail.

Napoleon invaded Russia (War of 1812?) to stop the flow of hemp to Britain -- stop the flow of hemp, sink the British fleet.

The (HEMP) War of 1812

United States vs. Great Britain
Napoleon Invades Russia...

the above link is to Chapter 11 of Jack's online version.

the print version is incredible, so incredible i spent over a year checking the sources in his index. half the book is his index of source material.

jack has come a very long way and done lots of GREAT work.

he has inspired probably millions of people. his personal story DVD is informative as well. from his military service to his having been a Goldwater Republican.

Jack is the Emperor of Hemp. and a great guy.

the book: The Emperor Wears No Clothes: The Authoritative History of Cannabis Hemp.

i learned so much from one of the early editions of this book.

i learned and became a member, registered today as, the Libertarian Party, one of the best i learned about is FIJA and about all the major U.S. trails concerning juror rights AMAZING.

i have started organizations, adopted streets, given public speeches and leafleted (mostly as courthouses near Juror parking lots) for FIJA... all at my own expense and having made and printed up my own materials to hand out.

i have had professors want to met me for lunch to learn where i came by various information... once I guy wanted to know where i learned about Bush and Quayle and the pharma job Dan's dad gave George (1).

fairly common info today.

then there's there's the work of Dana Beal.

considering Mcnamara's death today and Eisenhower's most famous speech given as he left office this is a good day for people to renew desire to research, reading, and learning.

If the Tea Party folks were really concerned about America and our freedom then why aren't they asking why hemp is outlawed???

#36 - Danni

I'm a tea bagger and I strongly question why hemp is illegal. What a fabulous material, (I won't preach to the choir.)

I also enjoy my indulgence in the indica as well. God love those Canadians aye.

If the Tea Party folks were really concerned about America and our freedom then why aren't they asking why hemp is outlawed???

#36 | Posted by danni

I guess because we have plastics now. There is no need for hemp rope or hemp sails. They realy rot too easily. Don't be so dumb. It wasn't the pot.

Sniper,

True to a point however renewable materials like hemp do not take oil to make. In fact they can make oil out of it. So instead of paying our arab masters in monopoly money we could become self reliant. Just think you could start your own hemp farm and get carbon credits for being a CO2 sink.

Don't be so dumb of course it wasn't the pot it was the cash.

Different situations, snarkman.

#24 | Posted by rcade

Snarkman that's the best you can do? Com'on wittle Wogers get it off your chest.

Maybe Miss Goody Two-Shoes CalifChris can help you come up with something with a little more bite.

Tao is right. The same newspapers screaming to find something cheaper than paper from trees to print on fail to editorialize for simple hemp paper, the same paper the Declaration of Independence and Constitution were printed on without any teens driving their cars into walls because of it.
I think marriage as an "institution" whatever that means would be far better served if he and she could toke a bit before doing the dirty deed. Martinis are anti-erection.
And again I say: drugs are a health "problem" not a legal or social one.

DuPont Corporation, 1937 As a model of deception and orchestrated media manipulation, the anti-hemp crusade constitutes one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetuated on the American People. Few public relations campaigns in history can match its success in eradicating competition while transforming citizens into unknowing pawns of big business. The legacy of Reefer Madness lives on today. Industrial-grade hemp is worthless as marijuana since its THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) content is so low, as little as 0.06%.

"I guess because we have plastics now. There is no need for hemp rope or hemp sails. They realy rot too easily."

Actually, the fact that plastics are not biodegradable makes many products made from then ecological nightmares. It would be far better to use hemp for so many products made out of synthetics today, they would still give good service but when no longer needed they would conveniently break down and return to the soil.

So instead of paying our arab masters in monopoly money we could become self reliant.

#39 | Posted by TaoWarrior

Suggest you do just a wee bit of research and discover exactly from where our oil is imported and how much is imported. The arabs are only one of our "masters."

And while you're at it, do a query as to what nation has been bankrolling the US debt to the greatest degree. It ain't the Chinese or the Saudis.

Slavery might save the US Economy too, but Hulkamaniacs don't want it decriminalized.

Just be honest -- you want hemp legalized so you can smoke pot. Don't hide behind the argument that hemp makes kick-ass rope.

HULKAMANIA FOREVER

Zot,

Japan tops the list (with $644 billion), followed by China ($350 billion), United Kingdom ($239 billion) and oil exporting countries ($100 billion).

But then again that list is 2 years old.

As far as Oil in order it is Canada, Mexico, Saudi Arabia.

SO what is your point that we have Canadian, Mexican, and Japaneese masters as well? How does that affect the argument for more reliance on Hemp?

Hulk,

Of course I want to smoke it did I ever once say otherwise? Although I will pass on smoking industrial hemp. In some states I could easily get it for medical reasons and it does help MS but despite that I don't think I ever once said that I didn't want to use it recreationaly. It should be legal in all aspects and there is no reason for it not to be.

SO what is your point that we have Canadian, Mexican, and Japaneese masters as well? How does that affect the argument for more reliance on Hemp?

You made the following statement:

"...instead of paying our arab masters in monopoly money..."

Which carries the implication that all of our oil imports come from the ME, a good rallying point for the Great Unwashed. Many are surprised and become rapidly deflated to discover that it is our white cousins to the North who crude us up the most, including finished petro products, 'cause, y'a know, like, they're not brown and olive and wearing sheets on their heads and carrying ay-kays and burning the flag. Even though them Canuks are digging immense holes in Mama Terra to get at that tar sand, not quite eco right in the head they are. And oil from the Mexis to the south? From Mexico? Really? Don't they have nothing but beans, burritos, bandits and bodacious beetches/beaches?

What's this do do with hempage?

Nuthin'.

Everything.

Hemp is not a panacea. Hemp will be a supplement to existing resources. To what extent it is equal to or superior to current products, both natural and synthetic, is to be determined. The rope example has shown that hemp rope, though natural, does not have the long-term durability of poly rope.

Fuel? What will be the break point for fuel from hemp to compete with regular gasoline?

An example: Canadian oil shale extractors needed a price of around $65/barrel to break even with the costs of pulling the oil out of the rock and sands.

What is the total cost of producing a barrel of oil equivalent from hemp?

Zot,

Hemp based ethanol can be produced at small scales around $1.50 - $2.00 a gallon. Research is under way to further reduce the costs...but keep in mind, we're talking about small scale production at this point. With better technology, it is thought the price can be reduced to $1.05 - $1.25 a gallon in the near future. These prices are based on hemp cellulose enzymatic conversions.
(oh and I don't buy those numbers I have seen more like 3.50 a gallon but this is what I found)

So break even based on this we have already passed, bassed on what I thought I had heard in the past would be more like 75 a barell. However Hemp is not subsidized the way corn ethanol is so that break even point is higher than with corn because of the subsidies.

Aditional point: A bad crop year for corn means through the roof ethanol prices. Hemp, on the other hand, continues to grow rather well while corn is hardly growing at all. Thus, hemp = stable fuel market; corn = unstable fuel market.

One other consideration to take into account is that ethanol has about 80% the energy as gasoline. Thus the consumer will use more gallons of ethanol than gas to get from point A to point B. I have verified in my car that I can obtain 10 to 15% mpg bump if I use "full-bodied" gas (non-ethanol, when I can find it) compared to the 10% ethanol "enhanced" gas.

It would be far better to use hemp for so many products made out of synthetics today, they would still give good service but when no longer needed they would conveniently break down and return to the soil.

#43 | Posted by danni

I guess all your rigging is made of hemp. I'll bet you have no plastic in your house or car either.

I was stating why hemp is NOT in demand now days. You can do all the deaming you want to about your green world. WHEN you live without petrochemicals in your life THEN you can preach to me about how great it is, or how it sucks.

Can you use Hemp as dental floss?

I want to retire move to the country and grow dental hemp.