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Thursday, July 02, 2009

Chris Hedges: The ability of the corporate state to pacify the country by extending credit and providing cheap manufactured goods to the masses is gone. The pernicious idea that democracy lies in the choice between competing brands and the freedom to accumulate vast sums of personal wealth at the expense of others has collapsed. Those who care about the plight of the working class and the poor must begin to mobilize quickly or we will lose our last opportunity to save our embattled democracy. The most important struggle will be to wrest the organs of communication from corporations that use mass media to demonize movements of social change and empower proto-fascist movements such as the Christian right.

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As long as they don't mess with Rush L. I don't care.

" . . . proto fascist . . . Chri . . . "
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The media will change when the viewers change.

More importantly, politicians will change when the voters change.

Sully, are you saying then that the corporate media does not have an agenda of its own, for its parent companies???
Are you that naive???

What destroyed the News media.....


Ratings Polls.

Corporations with an Agenda....

How did an Leftist Idiot like Obama get elected in the first place.....

The Media....

CBS....NBC....CNN....ABC....MS
NBC.... All whores all with an egenda...

Funny to see the puzzled faces of the WH reporter pool as the President lies and distorts and flip flops his way through a blizard of bull shit. They can't believe it is happening and they DARE NOT Write IT either.

If you take almost 90% of what the press tells you and believe the oposite is true. You wouldn't be far off the mark. Thanks to them.. The world is truely Up Side Down.

"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day." --Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807.

Been going on for years.


"During the course of [my] administration [as President], and in order to disturb it, the artillery of the press has been leveled against us, charged with whatsoever its licentiousness could devise or dare. These abuses of an institution so important to freedom and science are deeply to be regretted, inasmuch as they tend to lessen its usefulness and to sap its safety; they might, indeed, have been corrected by the wholesome punishments reserved and provided by the laws of the several States against falsehood and defamation; but public duties more urgent press on the time of public servants, and the offenders have therefore been left to find their punishment in the public indignation." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805



The Reich-wing meida is out of control.
It's not too late to stop the hate.[TM]
3 suggestions to restore free speech:

1. Ban hate-speech
2. Ban Reich-wing radio.
3. Ban Limbaugh

Be Well.


Spoken like a true fascist Skippy. All that's missing is "off with their heads." Free speech doesn't mean - is long as it's in line with my thoughts.

Why should you expect the reporters that are a product of lib colleges be any different? It also seems like the corps that own the major networks are interested in an adgenda than "reporting the facts".

" It also seems like the corps that own the major networks are (?) interested in an adgenda(sic) than "reporting the facts".

#10 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-07-02 07:01 PM | Reply | Flag: more or less?

The media do not exist to inform.
Nor even to entertain.
But to sell.


Seen on the front page of the Wall Street Journal well over 30 years ago. The irony caused me to stop my subscription. it's all a billboard except for the peer-reviewed literature, which is an argument.

it's => It's

dammit

The press/media lost its/their right to constitutional protection when it stopped acting as a fourth estate of government and started acting as a cash cow. It's a bit more complex, and devoted corporate apologists will jump on this, but the downfall began when newspapers stopped being run by journalists and started being run by ad men and accountants. The real old fashioned watch-dog reportage is practiced in blogs. herm

I think our public is very complacent.

Most of us know politicians are crooked and corporations are evil yet we allow them to continue.

A good place to start would be ditch the cable television.

"The media do not exist to inform.
Nor even to entertain.
But to sell."

I had this argument in a media studies course I took in school. We were discussing representations of different races on television and this latina girl told me angrily how the media, basically a group of old rich white men, owe better representation to minorities.

I told her that they owed her nothing and would give her nothing that she wasn't willing to force from their cold, white, greedy little hands. I told her to organize to boycott all the networks she considered negligent in their community responsibilities. She looked at me like I was insane for suggesting that she turn off the tv. I couldn't believe that she couldn't understand that unless you threaten them with the removal of your eyes from their commercials that you've got no argument.

Then she complained to the teacher that she wasn't able to explain why I was wrong because she wasn't used to speaking to white people.

It was a real WTF moment for me, considering I was in a NYC school.

Most of us know politicians are crooked and corporations are evil yet we allow them to continue.


A good place to start would be ditch the cable television.

#15 | Posted by wurster at 2009-07-02 08:01 PM


Evil corporations where teachers, police, firefighters, teamsters, UAW, IBEW, and your 401 K's are invested.

Good luck.

Maybe ditching the computer would be a help too?

This mess will never be cleaned up.

The only thing that will ever clean this mess up is when people take responsiblity for themselves first. Government is the problem, all of them.

Since Air America is a dismal ratings failure (i.e. the listeners reject those ideas), the only solution is to seize the media and suppress "proto-fascist" thought? That's more like brainwashing North Korea style. What a bozo to even think that way, let alone suggest it.

Diarrhea,

Liberal radio is not successfull because intelligent people don't need talking heads telling them what to think. Rtard's apparently aren't capable of independent, original thought and they need Glen Beck to tell them what to think.

Kind of life a laugh track for life. You morons are too stupid to know when to laugh when you watch a tv sitcom and need the reinforcement of another bitter, hate-filled asshole to tell you that you are hating the right things and filling you with lies to make you support the things their billionaire bosses want you to support.

That kind of shit just doesn't work with liberals and other thinking individuals.

Air America got rid of its best(Randi Rhodes) because she is a real liberal, and not a democrat cocksucker. She called hillary a corporate whore, and was correct. The truth is not especially kind to either party.

Who owns the media?

www.mediaowners.com

The media has too much influence over what Americans think/believe to be the truth.

Turn off your TV's and go live your lives, and enjoy the life you have while you have the time.
Life is short.

Media Couldn't Do It without a Passive American Public!

The majority of Americans have shown in their passive tolerance of a heinously corrupt govt and a succession of "War-4-Profits" criminal presidents from Reagan to Bush that they are in reality no better than Brain_Dead Zombies - so just how do you democratically motivate or do anything progressive with such a pathetic group? The "Silent Majority" sat idly by as the Greedy Politicians and the CorpoRats Fucked America to Death! What you see is only what you allowed to happen - you can blame no one but yourselves!

The majority of Americans have shown in their passive tolerance of a heinously corrupt govt and a succession of "War-4-Profits" criminal presidents from Reagan to Bush that they are in reality no better than Brain_Dead Zombies - so just how do you democratically motivate or do anything progressive with such a pathetic group? The "Silent Majority" sat idly by as the Greedy Politicians and the CorpoRats Fucked America to Death! What you see is only what you allowed to happen - you can blame no one but yourselves!

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On the dot.

Stalin didn't fly around with a blue cape killing millions of people with his laser eye beams and frosty breath. People followed his orders.


As long as they don't mess with Rush L. I don't care.

#1 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-07-02 04:40 PM

Don't you worry Fey Thommy.

I'm sure you'll still be able to touch yourself to the soothing rantings of Ruuusshh.

OK...

"The pernicious idea that democracy lies in the choice between competing brands and the freedom to accumulate vast sums of personal wealth at the expense of others has collapsed."

Right off the bat you know this guy has no idea of what he is talking about. He is confusing Democracy (a political system) with Capitalism (and economic system). The real change in this century has been the divorcing of the two...where before Democracy was always tied to capitalism...what we have now is Communists (China Autocratic rule) embracing capitalism and Democracies (Like Europe and now the US) embracing socialism.


"Those who care about the plight of the working class and the poor must begin to mobilize quickly or we will lose our last opportunity to save our embattled democracy. "

Democracy was not established to support the poor - it was establish so that population created a method for self governance - and that the will of the majority would prevale. Corrupting the political system (as Obama has done) under the guise of helping the poor is a typical leftist ploy. Everyone likes to think they are generous and kind - the fact is the poor are poor because they either do not get off thier dead asses and work OR they lack the intelligence (or the training) to manage their money.


"The most important struggle will be to wrest the organs of communication from corporations that use mass media to demonize movements of social change and empower proto-fascist movements such as the Christian right."

Now you know that this guy is a psudo-intellitual and does not really know what he is talking about. 1st) of the 4 major networks only 1 is slightly right leaning and the public Network is completely stocked with idiots like this writer. 2) WHERE have you seen the media "Demoize Movements of Social Change"? If anything the media PROMOTES this and CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, NY Times is anything BUT promoting the Christian Right. 3) On top of that if anything has been FACIST has been the Obama administration. Just look how they have loaded the "town hall" meetings with selected questions from selected individuals that even the WH Press Corp has a problem with.

You can't get more liberal than Helen Thomas - and even that wind bag now sees has they are being manipulated.

Facisim is government and industry working together - so Obama taking over the Banks, Car Industry and now has his sights set on the Health care system - that is Facist. Supporting a bill that forces businesses to adopt punitive taxation for a non-exsitent global warming "crisis" - that is facist. Setting up a group "domestic security force with the same power as the military" (Obama's words) THAT is facist.

So..posting this rant only reinforces what we already know...the left is full of stupid people pretending that they are smart and being lead by the slightly smarter who are totally focused on obtaining power.

"The truth is not especially kind to either party."

I think you've got that backward, but I'm not going to argue with you.

"Setting up a group "domestic security force with the same power as the military" (Obama's words) THAT is facist."

My first instinct was to say its not exactly fascist but certainly unconstitutional, then I found out that Posse Comitatus isn't what it used to be.

en.wikipedia.org

Simply amazing how threatened the left feels toward Christianity. There is a fascistic murdering religion spreading throughout Europe, one whose purpose is to subjugate the world (even it's name means "submission") called Islam. But it's evil Christianity that threatens to undo the world in the Libtard mind?

I think it's cuz Libs know...deep down...that Christianity is true, that one day they will be held accountable....not to Mohamed, or Ghandi, or Buddha, or Krishna...but instead will be asked, "What did you do with my Son?"

Jesus is reviled by the left, and for what? What is the evil he perpetuated? What is the vile teaching he promulgated? What terrible treachory did he commit? Answer: None! And yet he remains the single biggest threat and the most vile of world figures to the Left.

Why? Cuz He's the truth, and people (ie. Libtards) love their darkness!

Break down the doors of these foul Christians! Bring them out into the streets and persecute them as ignorant hate-mongers. Indeed, bring them out that we might have our way with them. Let us revel in our dissipation and cut down those who call us to repentance. Islam can murder us, but Christianity must go. Remove this blight on the world.

"Jesus is reviled by the left, and for what? What is the evil he perpetuated? What is the vile teaching he promulgated? What terrible treachory did he commit? Answer: None! And yet he remains the single biggest threat and the most vile of world figures to the Left."

No, people like you are reviled by the left, nebs. Most, absent the most devout atheists, don't have any complaint with Jesus.

TheOne:

Just what exactly are YOU doing to be a good witness to Christ? From what I have just read you despise those who are not like minded to your political views.

Think about it.

Have a great day.

Jesus invented the Left.

Jesus invented the Left.
#30 | Posted by igmoramus

Jesus was the original lefty.

Think Beatitudes.

The rise in trade, the reassertion of financial power, outsourcing of technological development, and the ascendance of an Oligarchy Executive Class have had dramatic effects on the US Industrial Corporations, the way they're run, and their declining position in the world.

Labor has always faced a threat from technology, but its implementation requires effort, imagination, and expense. The results create new types of jobs even as they destroy old ones.

But, trade isn't just a threat to domestic labor; it undermines every employer's market strength and in so doing undermines labor's leverage over employers. Outsourcing throws out labor to save the firm.

Clinton presided over an economic boom which joined the superrich and the Democratic Party for the first time. Our technological achievements fostered full employment without inflation, a decline in unequal pay with a rise in our standard of living, transformed our worldwide image, leapfrogged Europe & Japan, and strengthened the dollar. Then it stopped, just before Clinton left office.

Bush had no interest in the declining hi-tech industry, he governed on behalf of a small group of plutocrats in oil (extraction industries), media, drugs, health care, housing and finance. Income inequality soared and because of that unemployment rose.

Through the tenure of these two Presidents, a new wealth class emerged, interested exclusively in their bonuses, tied to stock prices (i.e. Wall Streets expectations). Running a company, planning, competing in global markets was too much fucking trouble for them. Why perform risky work when you could cook the books, buy an accounting firm or ratings agency, and control the power and instruments of the State?

As our Industrial State was reshaped, the Banker, Venture Capitalist and Wall Street reestablished the powers lost after the Great Depression. Getting rich no longer took time, talent, perseverance. Getting rich just meant getting the approval of the capital market. What began in the hi-tech industries corroded the structures and rewards of older larger more competitive Industries. An explosion in CEO pay ensued, removed from any false notion of supply and demand for labor. Shrub created a new entrepreneur, devoid of ideological restraint, focused solely on Government as a vehicle for private profit on a continental scale.

This is the Predator State. It is a coalition of relentless opponents of any regulatory framework which considers the future common good, whose enterprises compete with or encroach on the public functions of the New Deal. It has two objectives, undermining the public's best interests and profiting from previously exclusive public endeavors.

Excerpted from Galbraith's "Predator State"

If you consider that liberals are thinking individuals you have too much air between your ears. Liberal talk radio fails at every turn because there is no common sense applied to liberal thought. FOR EXAMPLE: GE owns NBC, CNBC, MSNBC. Immelt is the CEO of GE. Obama named Immelt to his Economic Advisory Board, which is ironic since GE has done worse since Immelt took over as CEO. GE is also part of the banking industry. GE Capital became FDIC insured back in November of 2008 so they would be able to receive $139 million dollars in the FDICs Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program aka T.A.R.P. GE also maintains a credit card line for consumers. Since GE also happens to own NBC, MSNBC and CNBC - as stated above. I believe at this point we all know how each of those stations feels about Obama. MSNBC touts itself as a 24 hour cable news network, yet when anchor Chris Matthews stated that he had a thrill up his leg about Obama during the election, it was quite apparent that any unbiased, balanced news reporting flew out the door. How convenient that the CEO of the parent company of MSNBC sits on one of Obamas boards.
The above is "liberal thought and reasoning".
No common sense and does nothing for the average American. Please don't try to pass off Anti Conservative bigotry as a thinking person's position. You insult your own intelligence by doing so. Liberal thought: The way to minimize unwanted pregnancies is to increase abortions. Conservative thought: The way to minimize unwanted pregnancies is to teach kids - at a young age- about accountablity, self respect, what their responsibility is to their family, community and to themselves. Again, media plays a part in this. You can't turn on the TV and not be visually assulted by all the sexual content - young people watch this crap and think it is normal, acceptable behavior. The common sense approach to abortion is to PREVENT unwatned pregnancy not minimize them. Liberal thought isn't thought at all. Is there any point to continue to swing your bat after you have ran out of balls? Liberals are famous for swinging at absolutely nothing.

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