This plan would seem to quash the high cost low coverage complaintscan the opponents live with public option under these conditions?

Ay Carumba!

Does anyone here really believe a government program is going to cost what they claim it will?

Does anyone here really believe a government program is going to cost what they claim it will?

#3 | Posted by MSgt

Just the Obama water boys.

"Does anyone here really believe a government program is going to cost what they claim it will?"

"according to the Congressional Budget Office..."

I know it will be much closer to the truth than the estimates we got about invading Iraq.

Does anyone here really believe a government program is going to cost what they claim it will?
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Probably not but less expensive than private plans

Administrative costs - 7% of health care expenditures are for administrative costs (e.g. marketing, billing) and this portion is much lower in the Medicare program (

#6 for 2006

Administrative costs - 7% of health care expenditures are for administrative costs (e.g. marketing, billing) and this portion is much lower in the Medicare program (

should read two percent for Medicare

"Probably not but less expensive than private plans

Administrative costs - 7% of health care expenditures"

Where in hell did you get that number, I've read many, many estimates, never less than 25% and usually 30-50%.

Administrative costs - 7% of health care expenditures are for administrative costs (e.g. marketing, billing) and this portion is much lower in the Medicare program...

So another failed program in the works? We already know 60% of Americans who qualify for healthcare assistance from the Goverment don't even sign up. Why would this be any different?

"Just the Obama water boys.

#4 | Posted by wisgod "

Says the lifelong Bush-lapper.

How much do you get paid to blog for the health insurers MMIKE. I don't believe any statistics supplied by Kaiser Family Foundation. YOur obvious bias makes me suspect you blog for more than enjoyment. Who is your employer??? Kaiser???

Danni,

Read the posts. It looks to me like Mike is in favor of reform.

WHATSLEFT maybe you're right. I probably am a little to ready to jump on that issue, I expect the insurance companies to be doing all kinds of stuff to defeat a public option and I've read they are actually paying lots of bloggers to go to sites like this and make their case for them.

I don't believe any statistics supplied by Kaiser Family Foundation.
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DanniBO uses their statistics, I just provided the link, I have heard higher numbers have yet to find one for 2006

You can rely on these projections. All of the proposals for large outlays predict the programs will require as little as 10% of the ultimate real cost. Bullshit.

Q. What does the Congressional Budget Office Health Care report and Global Climate change have in common?

A. Both are bullshit.

Just in in conjunction with the CBO announcement, anonymous sources claim that BO officials with Congressional Dems are consulting with former GB officials to launch an add campaign to garner hysterical public support for the new BO health plan. The aim is to force the weak-willed congress to vote overwhelmingly for the BO plan.

The adds will feature dark toxic mushroom clouds raising over US cities as a little girl says between coughs, "Swine Flu is only 45 minutes away and mommy and daddy don't have health insurances to protect me."

ARE YOU PROTECTED/COVERED? Across a black screen

There is one thing for sure in US politics if the statistics from whatever the sources support your arguments they are infallible. If they support your opponents view they are deceptions.

Where are the Dirksens of the world?

"There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong"

"Second, it contains a funding mechanism requiring employers who do not provide health insurance to pay an annual fee for each uncovered employee. Small businesses would be exempt from this fee."
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So, if I split my 50-person company into two LLC's with 25 employees each, I can be exempt from the fee?

Go figure. So when the Law of Unintended Consequences kicks in, it won't bring in nearly as much revenue as thought, and the $600 billion price tag climbs ever higher. I also love the implication that a public plan will be more cost effective than private ones. How's AMTRAK working out? Pretty good?

Too bad rethugs. The poor will finally get theirs while you assholes help pay for it!!!

RIR That employer would then be charged with fraud and sent to prison. That would stop that. Republicans may try it but won't succeed. Employees would blow the whistle on their greedy ass bosses if they try that shit. I know I would send an anonymous tip to the govt.

It's illegal to run several companies at the same time?

Uh oh! LMAO. You're a funny ass.

Jackass is so ignorant it's a joke.

I've already picked the 8 people I will fire to bring the roster below 25. They're not worth the extra expense.

How's that for Nanci Pelosi's jobs jobs jobs.

Cost less, covers more. You people are living in a fucking fantasy world.

The insurance industry must be shitting gold bricks about now. 72% of Americans want some kind of public options. PERIOD. FULL STOP.

Shill like fucknews and Flush Limpdick can lie all they want and the number stays the same.

The paid trolls can blog all they want and the number stays the same.

Moronic Merde-Munchers like mangy-minge, riwrong, and mysterytwat can parrot all day long and the numbers remain the same.

90% of Democrats want a public insurance option.

There are now 60 senators caucusing with the Democrats. They can tell the Rtards to go fuck themselves with the threat of a filibuster.

The question is will they?

The numbers stay the same. Americans want a public insurance option.

Only the insurance companies, their paid shills and brain-dead assholes stand in the way.

Oh poor Mikey, someone throws out some liberal bait and you take it hook, line, and sinker.

Have you ever known the government to do anything on time or on budget? Of course not.

You know MgGyver could give everyone health coverage with a ball of string, a lighter, and a piece of chewing gum.

Wake up and smell the bankruptcy. Obama was never qualified to be president and his inability to grasp the idea of fiscal responsibility proves it.

Just go cold turkey off the Kool-Aid and your recovery should not take too long.

#6 | Posted by mmike
Administrative costs - 7% of health care expenditures are for administrative costs (e.g. marketing, billing) and this portion is much lower in the Medicare program...
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This is misleading; Medicare outsources its administrative work to the private sector, so you're not seeing the true administrative cost. Why do they do that? Because they know that it would be very expensive.

So Medicare really doesn't have low overhead cost.

"Americans want a public insurance option."

Well, in that case, we should have one. Give the people everything they want!

"The insurance industry must be shitting gold bricks about now. 72% of Americans want some kind of public options. PERIOD. FULL STOP."

Sounds like BS to me! Trot out a VALID poll citing 72%.

BKwhat do you have against competition?

Cost less, covers more. You people are living in a fucking fantasy world.

#29 | Posted by JOE

And that's just when they're NOT stoned.