So was the adultery part of "God's plan" as well?

When reached for comment God said "Who?"

LEAVE! politician heal thyself!

as a conservative, i have to say he is an embarassment and needs to go.

B b b but nanc, if God wants him to stay what else is there to do?
God wants it...He has this plan, see.

Of course it is.

Well you got to play to the bible thumping retreads that will vote him back into office after his "revelation".

What a bunch of maroons.

old sot - i hate when people twist the Word of God to suit their selfish purposes. there is NOTHING in His Word to imply people of faith SHOULD go have affairs and then try to make it look good. david truly repented, but sanford - i don't believe so. you will know them by their fruit.

"david truly repented"

Was that before or after he sent the husband of his intended lover to the front lines of the battlefield?

Deep waters here, DANFORTH---Bathsheeba is why Christ was in the line of David. But if you're looking for how God might have punished David, there's plenty of candidates. Just read the Book.

I am sure God is a bit miffed at him for this.

"Just read the Book"

I have, several times. I still can't figure out why God didn't know the moon wasn't really a light.

"Bathsheeba is why Christ was in the line of David."

Except David was related to Joseph, who wasn't really the sperm donor. So Christ really isn't in the line of David.

Christ considered Himself in the line of David, DANFORTH, as did his contemporaries. Apparently the metaphysical aspects didn't stymie them as much as it does you.

We've had this conversation before. It's not intellectual surrender to be less concrete.

"Apparently the metaphysical aspects didn't stymie them as much as it does you."

Whereas you're content to be stymied with the scientific facts. Regardless whether Christ considered himself in the line of David, he WASN'T in the line of David, was he?

"It's not intellectual surrender to be less concrete."

So is the moon a light, or not?

Check Luke?

Why, does Luke contradict science, too?

C'mon, Nanc, feel free to answer the question: since David was in line with Joseph, and Joseph wasn't the actual sperm donor, is Christ in David's line, or not?

yes.

it IS written, danforth.

From the article- that for God to really work in my life I shouldn't be getting off so lightly.

I thought "getting off" heavily was what got him in trouble in the first place.

"it IS written, danforth."

And it is written that the moon is a light, but that's bullshit, too.

So, please explain, Nanc: how can Christ be in David's line if there is no direct lineage?

And no, just writing it doesn't make it true.

how can Christ be in David's line if there is no direct lineage?

Technically, Jesus was a bastard and we have no clue who his father was, so maybe he is in David's lineage.

Technically, Jesus was a bastard and we have no clue who his father was, so maybe he is in David's lineage.

I'm an atheist and even I know that god is supposed to be Jesus' father.

NOTHING can defy God's will.

NOTHING!

Fuck a midget.

It's God's will or nobody would be doing it.

Supposed to be doesn't mean is until we get a DNA test. We have not even heard from the supposed father on this, only from the mother, and not even second-hand, but 2000 year-hand and from people with an agenda. I await the ruling of the courts on this one.

It's God's will or nobody would be doing it.

So why do people engage in the futile act of praying for someone?

I'm an atheist and even I know that god is supposed to be Jesus' father.

You bought that whores story too huh?

"A baby? How in the hell are you having a baby? We've never pounded pee holes Mary!!!!!"

"Uh.....God must have put it there."

"Oh, ok. Let's stick to that story for a couple thousand years........"

Fuck man. Who falls for this shit?

I pray you find a midget to fuck Goatman.

(Does that help?)

Many uses a bat where a brush would work.

It's the roids......

I am feeling slightly "Grasshopper" today. I may speak like Confucius all day.

I am feeling slightly "Grasshopper" today.

It's good to have company.

I just hope I'm not found hanging nude in Bangkok like Grasshopper was.

I pray you find a midget to fuck Goatman.

(Does that help?)

It must have. I fucked a midget once.

Fuck man. Who falls for this shit?

Your dad. Don't you remember everytime you got near him, he'd say "Oh, Jesus Christ!"?

Nobody would ever believe a midget weatherman. A flood's coming? Yeah, for you- Dave Attel.

You bought that whores story too huh?

???

Try to figure that one out yourself. I'm an atheist. Don't hurt your brain.

"His lifeblood would have come from mary AND from God."

But that's not what they mean when they take "house of" and "line of" in the Bible, and you know it. The men passed on the name, and Joseph and Jesus didn't have the required connection.

His lifeblood would have come from mary AND from God.

#35 | Posted by nanc

I just wanted to see if that looked any more stupid in BOLD but it simply can't.

Fuck you have big time mental issues.......

"God has blood and DNA and he loves you unless your a ghey."

God Damn your fucking stupid woman. Try some other books before it's too late for Christ's Fucking Sake.

I'm an atheist and even I know that god is supposed to be Jesus' father.

I thought you were being so obviously contradicting for humor's sake.

My bad I guess.

as a conservative, i have to say he is an embarassment and needs to go.

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-30

as a conservative, I see your point but I think he should stay and fight it. IF as dems have told us for years and years...that it was only sex and that private lives dont matter, then he should stay. he CAN get by the problem of being out of touch with anyone for a couple of days.

and even though someone on tv said it could happen

north carolina was NOT going to invade south carolina

OOPS FORGOT

so I guess they could have a gov who is standing by while the place is coming apart..like ARNOLD

and notice that many of the comments here from libs isnt about him staying but that his faith tells him he should stay and THATS the real issue for them

Hearing One who demanded Clinton resignation for an affair backslide with the Help of Jesus is almost as funny as hearing a WingDing who had their Children Pray to a Life-sized Cut-out of Bush ------- call Obama a Demigod!

God Damn! What Remains of the "right" in America can now unequivocally be called Retarded!

Typical pussy-ass Republican hypocritical lying sneaky underhanded cheating criminal bastard.

as a conservative, I see your point but I think he should stay and fight it. IF as dems have told us for years and years...that it was only sex and that private lives dont matter, then he should stay. he CAN get by the problem of being out of touch with anyone for a couple of days.

and even though someone on tv said it could happen

north carolina was NOT going to invade south carolina

#39 | Posted by afkabl2

#1 - Possible job abandonment issue under state law
#2 - Use of state funds for trips to see mistress
#3 - Adultery is still illegal in SC

it IS written, danforth.

#16 | Posted by nanc

Who wrote it?

"IF as dems have told us for years and years...that it was only sex and that private lives dont matter"

YEAH!

Agreed! We should just forget What the "republicans" have Said (for years)! I mean, we shouldn't let past declarations such as "The Party of God" and "The Party of Family Values" get in that e way of trying to make this about Democrats!

NOTHING can defy God's will.

NOTHING!

Fuck a midget.

It's God's will or nobody would be doing it.

#21 | Posted by Manypaths

Hitler's actions were God's will.

God is a prick.

everything is part of God's plan - unfortunately, it doesn't turn out well for ALL people.

Hitler's actions were God's will.

God is a prick.

Posted by truthhurts at 2009-06-30 11:54 AM

Without Hitler, there would be no Israel today. Perhaps we don't see the grand scheme of G-d's will.

His lifeblood would have come from mary AND from God.

#35 | Posted by nanc

god has DNA? man that would be cool to clone.

everything is part of God's plan - unfortunately, it doesn't turn out well for ALL people.

#47 | Posted by nanc

yes, god IS a prick.

Hitler's actions were God's will.

God is a prick.

Posted by truthhurts at 2009-06-30 11:54 AM

Without Hitler, there would be no Israel today. Perhaps we don't see the grand scheme of G-d's will.

#48 | Posted by kanrei

yes, Hitler did no wrong, he did God's will, thanks.

C'mon, Nanc, feel free to answer the question: since David was in line with Joseph, and Joseph wasn't the actual sperm donor, is Christ in David's line, or not?

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-06-30 10:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

Since nothing is too hard for God and He does what He pleases, the answer is yes.

"Luke 3:7-9 (New King James Version)
John Preaches to the People

7 Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, We have Abraham as our father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. 9 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire."

TH,
My belief is that evil cannot beget good, so if good comes about from something that appears evil, then the appearance is wrong.

" IF as dems have told us for years and years...that it was only sex and that private lives dont matter, then he should stay."

It's not sex. This guy is the chief executive officer of a State, and he was derelict in his duties for five days. An argument could be make he violated his oath of office. Who cares what else he was doing?

When in doubt, Afk, ask yourself this: if he were a Democrat, would I be calling for his termination?

Of course you would.

old sot - i hate when people twist the Word of God to suit their selfish purposes. there is NOTHING in His Word to imply people of faith SHOULD go have affairs and then try to make it look good. david truly repented, but sanford - i don't believe so. you will know them by their fruit.

#6 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-30 09:29 AM |

Fucking hillarious.

Without Hitler, there would be no Israel today. Perhaps we don't see the grand scheme of G-d's will.

#48 | Posted by kanrei

Getting a little close to the Truth there Kanrei. Careful.

TH,
My belief is that evil cannot beget good, so if good comes about from something that appears evil, then the appearance is wrong.

#53 | Posted by kanrei

so Hitler's actions were not evil?

cannot good come from any act?

everything is part of God's plan - unfortunately, it doesn't turn out well for ALL people.

#47 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-30 11:54 AM |

Especially if you're on the 62nd floor.

be careful what you say about Sanford, he speaks to God! But he left off the last word:
"Sky Daddy wnats me to stay"
last word was "away"

No, I don't believe Hitler's actions were evil because I do not believe in evil. Nobody wakes up and says "let's do some evil today." Even the most evil person you can think of believed they were in the right.

everything is part of God's plan - unfortunately, it doesn't turn out well for ALL people.

#47 | Posted by nanc

many people say that......in actuality, few really believe that.

I'm attending a funeral on Thursay. One of my best friend's kid. He was 9. He was born with a disorder that left him deaf and retarded. After suffering 100s of seizures, one finally killed him.

I'm sure I'll hear that phrase....."all part of God's plan". Tell that to these parents and the other children.

"the answer is yes."

Then post something that proves it. Your passage clearly does not.

"God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones."

Able? So what? The Bible doesn't claim Jesus is from those stones, rather from the Holy Spirit, definitely not in the line of David.

Typical pussy-ass Republican hypocritical lying sneaky underhanded cheating criminal bastard.

#42 | Posted by LetUsPre

You could have just called him a typical republican.

His lifeblood would have come from mary AND from God.

#35 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-30 11:33 AM

So gaawd fucked the "virgin"?

I guess you can do what you want when you're the man.

....."all part of God's plan".

Rationalization bullshit to put a spin on a real tragedy.

No, I don't believe Hitler's actions were evil because I do not believe in evil. Nobody wakes up and says "let's do some evil today." Even the most evil person you can think of believed they were in the right.

#60 | Posted by kanrei

well thinking one is in the right and being right are two different things.

Do you believe in Good?

Then what is the opposite of Good?

FWIW I dont believe in evil either, just attempting to see how your belief jives with a belief in god.

LOL!!!

I do not believe in evil.

Evil is dependent on perspective.

I want to clone God.

Theoretically, we could find some DNA of Jesus somewhere and clone him into a living breathing human being.

how cool would that be!

I do not believe in evil.

Evil is dependent on perspective.

#68 | Posted by 726

There is no good there is no evil, there are only the consequences of our actions.

""everything is part of God's plan - unfortunately, it doesn't turn out well for ALL people.""

Oh, then the idea of "free will" is nonsense and personaly reponsibility as well. It's all been preplanned, we have no responsibility then for our actions because we are just carrying out God's plan.

Staying might be part of God's plan, but leaving for South America wasn't.

nononon danni, you have free will AND god has a plan into which your free will fits. See god a long time ago laid out everything that was going to happen and then created us to have freewill to do what we want, well as long as it was what he planned. See it all makes sense once you have a frontal lobotomy.

Oh, then the idea of "free will" is nonsense and personaly reponsibility as well. It's all been preplanned, we have no responsibility then for our actions because we are just carrying out God's plan.

Danni and I don't agree very much but we do now.

Staying might be part of God's plan, but leaving for South America wasn't.

#72 | Posted by Diablo

assuming you are serious, god must have screwed up his plan back in the day if he didnt know he was going to argentina. Of course, if staying was part of god's plan, than what was the purpose of the staying as it was not part of the plan for him to leave

shaking head WOW COGNITIVE DISSONANCE!

ok perhaps god had a contingency plan, IN CASE sanford left and came back THEN he could stay.

wow

#1 - Possible job abandonment issue under state law
#2 - Use of state funds for trips to see mistress
#3 - Adultery is still illegal in SC

#43 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

okay then RIP HIS FACE OFF AND SHOW IT TO HIM

but then dont come back and tell us that blowjob billys problem was just sex.........

bottom line for now

what the fuck do I care about a guy who is getting ass
ON TWO CONTINENTS and I cant get any right here

you have free will AND god has a plan into which your free will fits.

Well then if the plan already has all my future actions planned out, how can I have free will?

I can't. If it is preordained by the magic man in the sky that I will die tomorrow, I cannot change it.

So either free will or the magic man is a myth.

god must have screwed up his plan back in the day if he didnt know he was going to argentina.

God is supposed to be omnipotent, omniscient and infallable.

"dont come back and tell us that blowjob billys problem was just sex..."

First you were upset that the Dem was getting the Beej while working...
Now you're forgiving to the Rep getting the Beej while AWOL...

Please...just pick a principle and stick to it.

ding ding ding ding you win the prize of enlightenment.

it really gets to be a bitch, when you realize god doesnt exist and yet you still dont have free will.

Please...just pick a principle and stick to it.

#79 | Posted by Danforth at 2009

okay,,ILl stick to the pissed off principle of him getting ass in two continents

HEY TRUTH.
could you please give me your proof that there is no God...oh in 25 or words or less would be okay.........

TH

Do you believe in Good?

No, I believe in actions devoid of value and we attribute the titles of "good" and "evil" based on our perspective. I believe in G-d, but not in a Devil or in Hell. All actions viewed by man as evil I attribute to G-d's will as well and yes, G-d does desire some things that seem very fucked up from our limited perspective, but we only have the benefit of memory and anticipation- reality is but a moment long.

So Sanford thinks his biggest sin is the "sin of pride," yet he believes he knows what God's plan is?

Think you might want to work on that pride problem, Love Gov.

Well then if the plan already has all my future actions planned out, how can I have free will?

Because there is a plan for us does not mean we have to follow it. We all know when we are doing something that will hurt us and something that can help us and we choose to do it or not to.

There is such a thing as fate, but it is up to you to recognize it and make it happen. That is where free will fits in.

well proving a negative and all....

but check this place out

Well then if the plan already has all my future actions planned out, how can I have free will?

Because there is a plan for us does not mean we have to follow it. We all know when we are doing something that will hurt us and something that can help us and we choose to do it or not to.

There is such a thing as fate, but it is up to you to recognize it and make it happen. That is where free will fits in.

#84 | Posted by kanrei

sorry kanrei but this post has no logic to it.

It has total logic to it. Just because we are born to do something doesn't mean we have to. The map says to turn left here, but you turn right. The map is fate and your turn is free will.

i hate when people twist the Word of God to suit their selfish purposes.

#6 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-30 09:29 AM | Reply | Flag: LOL

OK, I thought this thread - or the linked article - would give me my first good laugh of the day.

Needless to say, both have delivered at a level far above and beyond my expectations.

God's Plan(TM) -- LOL!!!

It has total logic to it. Just because we are born to do something doesn't mean we have to. The map says to turn left here, but you turn right. The map is fate and your turn is free will.

#87 | Posted by kanrei

then god has no plan, if you can divert from the plan, than it is not a plan at all and remember we are talking what 6, 7 8 billion people all with a plan and all f'in with that plan at the same time, so no plan.

Cause if god HAD a plan, and he being the infallible type, he knew that you would decide to do something contrary to that plan, well that would be his plan right, either that or he was fallible.

if you can divert from the plan, than it is not a plan at all

A plan is not concrete and does not have to be followed. That is why there is the expression "deviation from the plan." Your parents' had a plan for you when you were born, but I guarantee you didn't follow it; none of us did. I would be a lawyer today if I followed my parents' plan for me.

There is also a difference between infallible and inflexible. Plans change all the time.

How bout something as important as choosing your mate? Pretty important decision, right? Something with huge ramifications.

Now remember that he planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death. The Bible says, "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!"[Psalm 139:16]

So this says god's plan has the day of your birth all laid out.

Who will you marry? You actually have no choice in the matter. God has pre-planned your wedding in minute detail. God knew that your parents possessed exactly the right genetic makeup to create the custom 'you' that he had in mind. They had the DNA god wanted to make you. Therefore, your spouse was pre-chosen by God for you so that you would create the children who are a part of his plan. You also have no choice in the number of children you will have -- God has pre-planned their births.

The Bible was written by man and has no credibility IMHO when discussing G-d. It is a political tool used to control man, not a religious tool to save them.

Be back in 20 minutes. Damn work getting in the way of my blogging!

Man has freewill. God has a plan. And theists will forever tie themselves into knots reconciling the endless absurdities and contradictions of theism.

now now now kanrei, you are parsing here.

god is supposed to know all right including the future. in fact he knew it all when he created it way back in the day.

that is what we mean by plan.

he knows the future. THE FUTURE.

He knows what your decisions will be.

He knew them long before you were born.

SOOOOO if you can change what god knows, than god was wrong about the future, correct?

If your choice does not change what god knows, then it really isnt a choice, is it?

was banging the hot chick part of god's plan too? yep, god apparently hyperinfused sanford and all other politicians with massive amounts of testosterone.

I hear his Lover came out and said she was not IN love with him.

The truth isn't out all the way.

Sanford went down there to run away and hide. He just got his ass kicked on the national stage having the Stimulus shoved up his ass and his wife had thrown him out of the house.

He thought that he could leave and be with his New Love and start a new life in Argentina.

He got down there and She said, "Say What?!?!?!?"

Kicked out by his wife, not wanted by his lover, he had nowhere else to go but back to work a beaten man.

But will he admit Obama is part of God's plan?

god is supposed to know all right including the future. in fact he knew it all when he created it way back in the day.

that is what we mean by plan.

I have never made any such claims and, in fact, have often claimed the opposite. G-d has a plan, he had a reason to do what he did, but he does not control or know everything.

Plan never predicts outcome, only what one hopes will come of something. More often than not, things don't go as planned.

from near the top...

old sot - i hate when people twist the Word of God to suit their selfish purposes. there is NOTHING in His Word to imply people of faith SHOULD go have affairs and then try to make it look good. david truly repented, but sanford - i don't believe so. you will know them by their fruit.

#6 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-30 09:29 AM

Sorry Nanc....but all theology and scripture is the word and will of Man--not God. God wrote none of it personally. Some guys living 2000 years ago thought they "heard God", and wrote down what the voices in their heads said to write, or what they thought would be the most moral way to live, btw--they wrote approximately 200 years after Jesus of Nazareth existed in the case of the New Testament.
So definitely, "after the fact"; or at the very least, written after much time had passed.

I pretty much hate it when anyone tells other people how to live, but considering the enormous
population of mankind, there will always be peeps
telling other peeps how to live, how to die, and what they are going to have to do in order to be saved or "left behind".

It's all a bunch of opinionated hooey...

Who has the "Real Answers" A: No One...

And God isn't showing up again after a 2000 year
hiatus to tell us who is right and who is wrong.

Either He never existed, is a fabrication (i.e. Historical Fiction), or is disinterested in the fate
of man...

any one of these possibilities is food for much thought.

just sayin'...

Now you can go back to ranting and raving and believing what you must in order to feel better about yourself and where it is you are probably not headed.

yah, I know, I know...I'll be "left behind"...
aleady o.k. with that.

we will all inhabit the same pinewood box after all
is said and done, so better live for today.

AP NewsBreak: SC gov admits additional encounters

COLUMBIA, S.C. South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford admitted Tuesday that he saw his Argentine mistress more times than previously disclosed, including what was to be a farewell meeting in New York chaperoned by a spiritual adviser soon after his wife found out about the affair. more....

God has a plan for your life?

This belief found in a majority of comfortable middle class conservatives, Presbyterian and other Protestants too, who used to be middle-of-road but now are almost in the ditch on the right side of the political spectrum..

Predestination makes them feel so proud, since they know they are of the chosen. It frees them from having to care very much about the needs others less fortunate. They occasionally interact with the ones that don't smell so bad, but only to "spread the Good News."

"Oh, Harold that homeless lady begging for quarters at the last light looked unhappy, can't we do something to help?

"Trust God's will, Maude, she is there for a reason. Forget about her and get your makeup on straight. We are late for Sunday service. Throw one of your little pamphlets out the window at her. I hope he keeps the sermon short, I've got a tee-time at 12:45."

End

I have never made any such claims and, in fact, have often claimed the opposite. G-d has a plan, he had a reason to do what he did, but he does not control or know everything.

#100 | Posted by kanrei

god is imperfect? wow

Of course G-d is imperfect...everything he created is. Look at how fragile life is. Look at how flawed man is. He got life right, one would assume it would be everywhere. Instead, we are banished to this little speck of the universe, filed away under "M" for mistake.

"Oh, Harold that homeless lady begging for quarters at the last light looked unhappy, can't we do something to help?

"Trust God's will, Maude, she is there for a reason. Forget about her and get your makeup on straight.

#104 | Posted by silver_ironist at 2009-06-30 01:46 PM |

Most will see that, some will say there is no coinscidence and I am here with spare change and she is here in need of spare change, so we were put here together at this moment.

I guess hot Latina lovin' was part of the divine plan too...

...now that's a God I can dig!

Of course G-d is imperfect...everything he created is.

i didnt think this was possible.

nor do I think that such a god would be worth believing in.

S.C. Attorney General to review Sanford's travel records

Sanford's trade mission to Argentina contradicted U.S. policy

...now that's a God I can dig!

Me too. But I can't bang a hot South American babe because I answer to a higher power. My wife.

The moon is a light.

"They wrote 200 hundred years after Jesus existed..."

There's evidence Mark existed by 45 A.D. and that "Q" was written before Mark.

No one here is "stymied" by science. Some of us are stymied by history, however.

Hitler will be glad to know he wasn't evil, by the way. Just misunderstood, one supposes. Let's ask the Jews and the Gypsies.

IF as dems have told us for years and years...that it was only sex and that private lives dont matter

Screw the Dems. Some GOP guys named Sanford, Vitter and Ensign said Clinton should have resigned.

GOP Family Values-do as I say, not as I do.

But aflac, it's nice to see you no longer pretending you're not a Republican Loyalist.

Joseph was definetly not in Jesus's linage, it was just one human, Mary & Sky Daddy, That was the start of the term "Son of a Bitch" also Sky Daddy got laid!

Anybody catch this part:

While it would be personally easier to exit stage left,...

It's not sex. This guy is the chief executive officer of a State, and he was derelict in his duties for five days. An argument could be make he violated his oath of office. Who cares what else he was doing?

When in doubt, Afk, ask yourself this: if he were a Democrat, would I be calling for his termination?

Of course you would.

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-06-30

and yet you dont see how the arguments we are both making are turned around..when we argue the clinton case of lieing under oath, its scoffed at..
and dont be so sure of your last allegation as it turns out now that there is talk that the lady from argentinia isnt the only one.
IF thats the case, then take off senator...anyone getting that much more poon than me doesnt deserve my forgiveness or sympathy

"when we argue the clinton case of lieing under oath, its scoffed at.."

Clinton didn't leave his post for five days without telling anyone where he was. If you ever get apples to apples, let us know.

Again: if a Democratic Governor left his post for five days, would you call for his termination or not?

anyone getting that much more poon than me doesnt deserve my forgiveness or sympathy

#120 | Posted by afkabl2

Michael Jackson got more poon than you.

Again: if a Democratic Governor left his post for five days, would you call for his termination or not?

#121 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-

honest answer...I dont know..

Michael Jackson got more poon than you.

#122 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

OUCH

that was cold for first thing off the bat here this morning...

"honest answer...I dont know.."

Odd.

You don't know, yet everyone who reads you knows.

honest answer...I dont know

I would like to think that I would consider more to anyone doing this than just calling one thing without knowing the whole story but as much as my anger grows each day at what the obama administration is doing, its sometimes hard to keep that level of 'discourse' for lack of a better word.
so you can difer with that however you wish, the answer is still I dont know..depends on a lot of things maybe from an individual standpoint.

thanks dan
I was just trying to give an honest take on it. should have known there is no place for that here in this day of political bickering.
stakes are too high.

Man, what a dick this Sanford guy is. Sorry but if you dont have strength of Character to be faithfull, let alone honest and forth-right, with your wife and family; How the hell is anyone supposed to assume you have the Strength of Character to be Open/Honest/Forth-right when it comes to the operation of Government?

That goes for Republicans AND Democrats. BTW where is the thread for the Professor that was trying to sell the 5 year old?

BTW where is the thread for the Professor that was trying to sell the 5 year old?

#127 | Posted by GotTruth

Thank you for being prompt/

what the fuck do I care about a guy who is getting ass
ON TWO CONTINENTS and I cant get any right here

#76 | Posted by afkabl2

With a name like Aflacduckblowertoo-what woman would want to get anywhere near you?

The man is on the brink of a psychotic break. Is he protected by the ADA? Maybe he should be confined for his own protection and that of others. Who knows what actions he could take if he has totally lost contact with the real world. Immediately relieve him of duty. Impeach him and remove him from office. Why the hesitation?

Of course, this should instruct lefties and righties alike that their political heroes may indeed have feet of clay, and not the attributes projected on to them by their political machines and by the fawning servile media. The media do a disservice to everyone by concealing the defects and exaggerating the skills of so many medicorities that hold public office as the media flacks are both deceived and deceptive as they advance the candidacies of those who seem to share their views.

Most politicians have private undisclosed agendas with a public agenda concocted to secure political support. This Governor has broken. Most politicians nowadays are both narcissistic and sociopathic. Others have overlays of other illnesses, both psychological and neurological. Obama is nuttier than a fruitcake and in a position to do far more harm with his ill-conceived domestic and foreign policy agendas. In addition to his narcissism and sociopathy, and his neurological dysfunction, Obama is an ambulatory pschotic. The only question is when will his dysfunction become so glaringly obvisous that it is both recognized and acknowledged. Then of course, there will be the same reluctance to take action to remove the unfit officeholder from office that is displayed with the Governor.

So, Sanford can clearly hear god telling him to serve out his term, but can't hear god telling him not to commit adultry?

""everything is part of God's plan - unfortunately, it doesn't turn out well for ALL people.""

Oh, then the idea of "free will" is nonsense and personaly reponsibility as well. It's all been preplanned, we have no responsibility then for our actions because we are just carrying out God's plan.

#71 | Posted by danni at 2009-06-30 12:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

The idea of "free will" is not nonsense and we all are responsible for our actions. It's just that our "free will" is bounded by and subject to our nature. We are free to choose among a range of choices within our nature. Since the fall, all have inherited a fallen nature that is enslaved by sin. Before the fall, Adam had the ability to sin and the ablility to not sin. In the fall, man lost the ability to not sin. We all are dead (spiritually) in sin unless and until God grants life (in Christ).

65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father." John 6:65

Sanford and Moosefart in 2012!!!!

I can't wait.

Don't you just love these Party of Fail floaters?