don't you mean "ala"?

I don't believe in fairy tales, why don't you tell me how it works.

I have heard that Airbus is the Yugo of commercial aircraft.

"Why don't you tell me how it works..."

It's an ineresting mixture of free will and determinism. I'm sure we're on the same page so far.

This means God has decided He will usually allow things to unfold according to the effects of our decisions against a background of chance. There's a feedback loop between the two, of course.

Which doesn't mean God won't intervene specially and individually in what's usually called a miracle. No, the intervention doesn't effect the larger scheme, so-called, that we're used to. That's one reason they're miracles.

No details are available regarding why this child survived. But it seems miraculous on it's face. It will be interesting to see.

Yahoo for Yahweh!!!

"I don't believe in fairey-tales...."

It's like saying you don't believe in pickles. This means you will forever have problems with most hamburgers, wondering why God didn't save the cow.

Hamburgers are miraculous. You're invited to appreciate that.

The child is the Chosen One. He will rise up to slay the infidels. Oh wait, he COULD be the Anti-Christ, and God performed a miracle so that prophecy could be fulfilled.

It just keeps getting better.

It's like saying you don't believe in pickles.

No it's not. I can prove a pickle exists.

How are thoes airbusses working for you? Good thing we cancled the contract for the refueling planes.

Amazing story so long as this child has family left to take care of it.

Maybe some celebrity will adopt it.

Maybe some celebrity will adopt it.

#11 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-06-30 11:16 AM

Considering the odds are it would be Madonna or Jolie, the kid would have been better off not surviving.

Ok, let me see if I've got this. . . Pickles exist, so do hamburgers, therefore there is an old man with a beard who lives on a cloud who killed 152 people and let one live???

Ok, let me see if I've got this. . . Pickles exist, so do hamburgers, therefore there is an old man with a beard who lives on a cloud who killed 152 people and let one live???

#13 | POSTED BY NOGOV4ME AT 2009-06-30 11:22 AM | REPLY

No, everyone on that plane was a terrorist. Bearded old man who goes bowling and causes thunderstorms just saved thousands of lives (plus one) for the mere cost of 152. Not bad.

Or, all 152 people were dying slow, agonizing deaths due to cancer/leprosy/capitalism/
homosexuality/marriage and the merciful Almighty just did them a big favor. Sucks for their families, though.

Life is for the living. Dead is dead. Simple.

Unbreakable.

"...It's an interesting mixture of free will and determinism...This means God has decided He will usually allow things to unfold according to the effects of our decisions against a background of chance..."

The only thing I can freely determine is that you are a moron.

"...There's a feedback loop between the two, of course...

Oh but of course there is...it's called Moronism.

"...Which doesn't mean God won't intervene specially and individually in what's usually called a miracle..."

Why not? He used to do that in the Old testament ALL THE TIME. To confess that GOD can 'change his mind' destroys the notion of 'GOD's PERFECTION and PERFECT STATE.

Or is it that God is just a Moron too?

"...I'm sure we're on the same page so far..."

You think you're sure, but that doesn't make you right. It does qualify you for Moron School though.

"...No details are available regarding why this child survived...."

And none are coming, Moron. Shit Happens. 100 some odd people died and one didn't. You better track this child's life to make sure that he becomes the CHOSEN ONE, otherwise GOD killed a lot of people for a nobody.

We'll wait twenty eight years for your report. Just Like Christ.

"..But it seems miraculous on it's face. It will be interesting to see...#4 | Posted by Zed "

PPPPFFFFBBBBTTTTT

With logic like that you could start your own company: Morons R Us

Seems ridiculous on it's face.

A 5 Y. O. kid survives a plane crash that killed 152 others. Random chance. Probably a terrorist, and a Communist to boot.
Send 'im to Gitmo!

"Hamburgers are miraculous. You're invited to appreciate that."

Hamburgers are good. Cheeseburgers are miraculous but double bacon cheeseburgers divine.

Allah akhbar!

Was the kid's table-tray in the upright & locked position?

Have they figured out yet which kid survived? First they said it was a 5 year old boy then the story changed to the one who survived was a 14 year old girl.

To be called a moron by dumpling is sort of like, I don't know, being called a radish by a parrot. Actually, most parrots I've met are more interesing and pleasant.

DIABLO gets it. People don't believe in miracles because they rarely understand one when it happens to them. Christ's Apostles were exactly that way.

"God's perfection and perfect state..."

You must be talking about some other Christianity.

The Bible teaches this is an imperfect world full of very imperfect people---As you are more in a position to know than most.

I would say this was a miracle out of something very tragic.

I heard it was a 5 year old boy? Did it change?

"I can prove a pickle exists..."

Sure. Prove that to me. You and I are going to have some fun.

Who ever did the physical on the survivor needs to go back to medical school. Then he..or is it she?..will be able to tell the difference between a boy and a girl. As for age?? did the kid have pubes????

"I can prove a pickle exists..."

If women had a quarter for every time some guy handed them that line.....

"I can prove a pickle exists..."

Sure. Prove that to me. You and I are going to have some fun.

You make this sound challenging. I could produce a jar of pickles, take one out, and show it to you. What would your response be?

Pull all of the change out of your pocket then scatter it on the desk in front of you. What are the odds in that happening the way it did? I would say that if you were to pick it up and do that 1 million more times it would never happen the same way twice, does that make it a miracle?

Weird shit just happens sometimes. People survive plane crashes, and it doesn't take an invisible ghost to make a bunch of pennies land in different patterns or to make a hamburger with all of the fixins.

I don't have any change in my pocket.

---
~If it don't say Boeing, I ain't going.

Or at least it says Beechcraft and I'm driving.

If women had a quarter for every time some guy handed them that line.....

ff

"I could produce a jar of pickles and show them to you. What would your response be....?"

I could say it's jar of onions. You'd say I'm wrong and I'd ask you to prove that. You'd find another person to say it's pickles and (trust me) I'd find one to swear an oath for pickles.

You could put the pickles issue to a plebiscite and I'd thank you for conceding reality is a social construct.

There's more, much more. Diogenes the Cynic dealt with this sort of thing a long time ago.

"Weird shit just happens sometimes..."

Of course. And then weird shit happens for a reason. Now, you can deny my counter-assertion is correct but we both know that would be silly. Weird shit that happens for a reason isn't that bad a definition for miracle.

WHUPS---"Trust me, I'd find one to swear an oath for onions..."

On so many levels, you never know what is real. You do, however, know what you've been told is real. It just so happens I think my informants are better than yours.

Science,God..who cares some one survived. As for Airbus...yes..they are realy nothing more then a flying Yugo. For the amount of time the company has been in existance(comparied to say Boeing) their planes have racked up a horriable record for crashes per type and # of airframes.

don't you mean "ala"?

#1 | Posted by nanc

I would you make this stupid comment and open yourself up to more criticism?

Meant to say why would you?

"I have heard that Airbus is the Yugo of commercial aircraft." post by 726

Well, me thinks we have a newsworthy flag record!!!

What a dunce.

Crisis

#35 | Posted by Zed

There's no way you could type the words you posted there again exactly the same, not if you sat there and tried for the rest of your life. Something would be different about it each and every time you did it.

An old man with a beard who lives on a cloud had to have had a hand in it. IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"It's a miracle..."

Actually, I just offered the girl's survival is a candidate for one. She's alive, so we can ask her.

"There's no way you could post the words you posted there again exactly the same..."

But let's say I did that thing. Miracle? Or is it the case there is no combination events that you'd accept as evidence for miracle?

If that's true, it says nothing about God but everything about your personal prejudice.

CNN as of this morning reports it was a 13 year old girl and talks to her father...

Following the article PROZ linked to---"She was ejected into the water...." That's interesting. At what speed?

"I didn't feel a thing...." That statement alone makes me prick up my ears, given everyone else died.

Oh yes, then we have this---"The young girl can barely swim".

"I could say it's jar of onions. You'd say I'm wrong and I'd ask you to prove that. You'd find another person to say it's pickles and (trust me) I'd find one to swear an oath for pickles."

Well in that case, nobody knows anything. If that's your theory, have fun with it.

"Nobody knows anything...."

Not my theory at all. What I'm saying is that proving what you "know" is much harder than it looks.

It's ground that's been traveled before, but perhaps worth repeating: we accept we know what we think we know by way of a series of decision rules.

Question one rule and the remainder fall away. It's not that I don't accept there is something called objective reality. It's just that you can't get confirmation of that from any human being I know.

No, that is your theory. If you tell me to prove a pickle exists, I produce one, and you call it an onion, then essentially you are saying that nobody really "knows" that anything exists at all, because some moron could always say that it isn't true.

"Nobody knows anything really exists at all..."

Bingo. Don't blame me. Blame neurological science.