Fame is an interesting thing. I once asked a high school senior, college bound, if he'd ever heard of Julius Caesar. He said yes, that he had. Then I asked him what it was Caesar did. I just got a blank stare.

In regards to Jackson, I understand he died $400 million in debt. That's thievery on a massive scale, coupled with the perfect debt-evasion scheme.

"the perfect debt-evasion scheme"

Worked for the Enron guy.

MJ also had assets that will be sold off to pay his debts, having debts is not theft.

where would the music world be without talents like Michael Jackson

Exactly the same as far as I am concerned. With the exception of a four or five of the Jackson Five songs, I wouldn't recognize a Michael Jackson song if I heard one.

Jackson had almost 40 top 20 songs. Goat you under estimate his legacy. Before Jackson MTV didn't even play black music.

If you were gone tomorrow would anybody notice Goat?

"Jackson had almost 40 top 20 songs"

Proof homo sapiens and their little traffic impediment must be eliminated as soon as possible.

A World Without Michael

Is a much better place.

"Having debts is not theft..."

Certainly not per se. But if the liquidated estate doesn't add up to $400 million, someone is left holding the bag.

I guess my question is, if you own $400 million in assets, why exactly to you go into debt?

If you were gone tomorrow would anybody notice Goat?

What a stupid question. Of course someone would miss me. I have family, friends, and coworkers.

Don't you?

Before Jackson MTV didn't even play black music.

What is 'black music'?

"What is black music..?"

Music that absorbs light.

Proof homo sapiens and their little traffic impediment must be eliminated as soon as possible

Don't let Spud stop your Constructor Fleet from completing yer interstellar by-pass.

From Mostly Harmless right back to Harmless in one fell swoop.

After watching the media storm that lil pedo freak's death created Spud quite agrees with yer assessment.

Seriously, could not watch the teevee while the corporate MSM slobbered over themselves endlessly trying to create new superlatives to describe MJ's life in the wake of MJ's death with only occasional nods to wot they refered to as his "tragic personal life".

Actually, MJ's personal life was just swell from his POV.

He went around in a drugged state molesting little kids and paying their parents off to look the other way or drop charges.

Fer years he did this.

Now the personal lives of those kids?

K, now THAT shiat was tragic.

Be Well.

"Having debts is not theft..."

Certainly not per se. But if the liquidated estate doesn't add up to $400 million, someone is left holding the bag.

I guess my question is, if you own $400 million in assets, why exactly to you go into debt?

#9 | Posted by Zed

that is the danger debtors take when loaning money. His assets were not liquid, clearly and likely included his anticipated future worth, ie tours, concerts, records, etc.

For example I believe he paid $200million for the rights to the Beatles songs, those song rights have monetary value but he couldnt take Let It Be to his drug store to buy his vicodin.

and please dont for a second think I am defending MJ. He was a creep. I believe he molested children, regularly.

He had many aspects shared by child molestors, setting up a kid friendly environment, his childish nature, his words about sharing his bed with children, his drug addiction, his peter pan syndrome. what walks like a duck and quacks like a duck

I havent listened to a MJ song in 16 years and I cant fathom people who worship him, sure he had talent but his actions are unforgivable.

What a stupid question. Of course someone would miss me. I have family, friends, and coworkers.

Don't you?

#10 | Posted by goatman

Not really Goat. I have co-workers but I work 3rd shift and have minimal interaction with most of the workers. I rarely talk to family maybe once a year. My sons mother might notice when the child support checks stop but my son will be much better off since he would get about 400k from my life insurance.

What is 'black music'?

#11 | Posted by goatman

R and B, rap. Mainly music performed by black artists.

Goat if you had a choice between retort and family which would you choose?

Goat if you had a choice between retort and family which would you choose?

Family

Jackass, if you a choice between Goatman and an enema which would you choose?

"a choice between Goatman and an enema"

How about CC gives G'man an enema?

Family

#19 | Posted by goatman

I choose the retort. Family will only cause pain.

Family will only cause pain.

Sorry to hear that. My family brings me joy.

Must. Fight. Temptation. To make comment about Goatman's family bringing me joy.

How about CC gives G'man an enema?

We've seen Goat's dorsal view. My eyes still sting.

What have you got against CC?

To make comment about Goatman's family bringing me joy.

My family brings your joy? In what way?

My family brings me joy.

Spud's family usually brings him palmolive.

*groan*

We've seen Goat's dorsal view.

So has half of Padre Island

My eyes still sting.

LOL

Hey Jackass,

I have a serious question for you.

You work as a security guard, right?

If you got a job at Brinks on an armored truck and three guys armed with assault weapons tried to knock it over, would you gunfight with them or surrender?

The reason I ask is I just read a book about that crazy Cuban guy who was knocking over casinos and trucks in Vegas a few years back.

He couldn't understand why guards making shit pay were willing to take a bullet to protect the man's money.

I have my own answer to why, but I want your perspective.

Thanks,

SI

Jackass, if you a choice between Goatman and an enema which would you choose?

#20 | Posted by moder8

Trick question, 6 of one half dozen of the other.

Trick question, 6 of one half dozen of the other.

Better take the enema. I'm not a bargaining chip

Silver Ironist because most security guards take great pride in protecting whatever they are hired to protect.

Here's my Pride and Joy, spud

~Goat

* GROAN *

Guess, Spud kinda asked fer that one.

/Is still painful, tho

^_^

Be Well.

a choice between Goatman and an enema

Put up with being full of shit or with being with someone who fulla...

Hmmm that's a toughie!

/Spud keeds
//Cos Spud's a keeder.

Be Well.

How about CC gives G'man an enema?

#21 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2009-06-27 09:03 PM

I'm no prude, but (or in this case should I say "butt"?) you Texas boys boys are starting to sound a bit too kinky for me!

Silver Ironist because most security guards take great pride in protecting whatever they are hired to protect.

I wouldn't take a bullet to protect someone else's money. I'll bet Brinks and Wells Fargo wouldn't expect you to, either

He couldn't understand why guards making shit pay were willing to take a bullet to protect the man's money.

Fight or flight.

Those guys are hardwired for fight.

Flight doesn't occur to them in those few seconds.

Also, they aren't so much guarding the man's money as they are protecting themselves and their own personal code of honor.

/Yes, Spud actually knows some armored car guards.
//It attracts a specific mindset for the most part.

Be Well.

Silver Ironist because most security guards take great pride in protecting whatever they are hired to protect.

#34 | Posted by jackass at 2009-06-27 09:38 PM

Does your Texas security guard outfit consist of you wearing a cowboy hat, boots, and a shiny silver star too?

I was poking fun at 8roper because he likes to put up ridiculous threads...

He's a ridiculous person. A self described Jewish Mexican who is "black as the ace of spades". After I read that (in three different posts) I pretty much brushed him off as a BSer.

#32 | Posted by goatman

WOW you are as sharp as a tack goatman.

ARE you in fact "pretty much" convinced I was just fucking around?

Are you sure?

Sure you are ready to make that conclusion???

what gave it away?

was it the fact that I called myself a Jew, Mexican, and black man all in the span of about 20 minutes on the same fuckin thread?

So you are pretty wise huh?
you CAUGHT me BSing?

LOL you are one sorry ass piece of crap, chief.
BUt I think you made a wise decision.

You investigated, looked at all the evidence , and pretty much came to the conclusion that my fucking around was BS !

sleep well , and be proud little man!

LOL

was it the fact that I called myself a Jew, Mexican, and black man all in the span of about 20 minutes on the same fuckin thread?

I didn't see that. I saw three different declarations over the course of a few days.

I wouldn't take a bullet to protect someone else's money. I'll bet Brinks and Wells Fargo wouldn't expect you to, either

#38 | Posted by goatman

I worked for Wackenhut and we believed in doing whatever it takes to ensure the safety of the property we were protecting.

I worked for Wackenhut and we believed in doing whatever it takes to ensure the safety of the property we were protecting.

That's fucked up. Money can be replaced. A life can't.

goatman I have always been known for being a bit of an over the top racist when I posted as fredo_c

It was quite clear especialy in the context of my posts - that I was fucking around when I was calling nyself a Jew and a Mexican
- in fact I called myself a " filthy Mexican"

I mean come on - did you think I was really trying to fool people?

take great pride in protecting whatever they are hired to protect

Exactly.

If someone insulted the Cuban's guys manhood, called him a maricon, he would gunfight. Because it's what he is proud of.

Most Americans are proud of doing their jobs right.

Taking a bullet is too extreme and no employer would expect it, but it did happen in Vegas. A Brinks guard armed only with a .45 pistol shot it out with 3 bad guys with assault weapons. Their leader was a Soviet trained commando and killed two of the guards.

Thanks for answering.

I mean come on - did you think I was really trying to fool people?

The context, if I remember correctly, you were feigning indignance at a racial remark. Yes, I took it seriously.

That's fucked up. Money can be replaced. A life can't.

Posted by goatman

Yes but Some people probably could care less if a security guard was to die. Many people would choose whatever they kept in their safe deposit box over some random stranger.

I wouldn't want you shot and/or killed, Jackass, trying to protect my safe deposit box or purse. Your life is more valuable to me -- not even knowing you -- than some stupid amount of cash would ever be.

A dead child molester? A world without Michael is better off.

The story is playing out differently in the media than among the general population. Areas with large black populations are in some sort of official mourning.

But ...

One of my kids was in a coffee shop when the word was received, and he said that some 80% of the people there declared that Michael Jackson's demise was welcome, good riddance.

The media is telling a different story. There seems to be a disconnect.

Whatever, his life was a human tragedy. He was taking so many pills to distort reality, wasn't he?

Michael Jackson was not convicted of molesting any children. His interaction may have been just as he said--completely platonic. That he paid 22 million to an accuser still doesn't mean he did anything. A person can be found guilty of a crime they never committed---it has happened often in this country.

Unless Michael jackson sucked your dick, you don't know WTF you are talking about.

Michael Jackson was not convicted of molesting any children.

Neither was Bush. But you are constantly calling him a pedophile.

Once again, da bOoB proves he is a double standard hypocrite. But to expect a level playing field from da bOoB is folly.

That he paid 22 million to an accuser still doesn't mean he did anything.

#52 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-06-28 09:01 AM | Reply | Flag: Unbelievably delusional

Yea, he probably gave them $22,000,000 to mop his floors.

he life was not a human tragedy. he was a human turd. he took the drugs and the pills. no one forced them down him. he was useless.

Good riddance.
One less pedophile stocking our children.

well at least for now...there are enough specials on tv to last a long time....

WHEN will they get off it and show something else??

Michael Jackson didn't do anything after the Jackson Five that impressed me and to describe his later music as of a black genre seems to me a strained attempt to undeservingly prop him up - it was over hyped pop as he was an over hyped personality the last 25 years or so.

"Michael Jackson was not convicted of molesting any children."

Right...and OJ was not convicted of killing Goldman and his wife....but there IS justce after all....

"The Environmental Protection Agency has stated that, due to Michael Jackson's high plastic content he will not be cremated. Instead, he will be melted into legos, so children can play with him for a change"

"Michael Jackson was not convicted of molesting any children."

You would think da bOoB would be the last person on this blog to come out with this statement considering how every other post he puts up alleges that Bush is a pedophile.

Funny person, dat bOoB

"You would think da bOoB would be the last person on this blog to come out with this statement considering how every other post he puts up alleges that Bush is a pedophile."

Ya' gotta wonder how much time Boob spent at Neverland.

One less kid toucher.

Fuck Mikey and the tools that are actually mourning "It".

Good riddance.
One less pedophile stocking our children.

#56 | Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-06-28 12:39 PM

Yes jeffi, He "stocked" them.

I could have sworn he died 10 years ago.

Good riddance.
One less pedophile stocking our children.

#56 | Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-06-28 12:39 PM

AGREED