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Saturday, June 27, 2009

The U.S. is shifting its strategy against Afghanistan's drug trade, phasing out funding for opium eradication while boosting efforts to fight trafficking and promote alternate crops, the U.S. envoy for Afghanistan said Saturday. "Eradication is a waste of money," said Richard Holbrooke, US envoy to Afghanistan.

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As long as they don't actually cut off the supply, the private prison industry should be OK.

And with hydroponics and customized seeds here, pot is a loser crop for them.
I wonder why our government is not pushing biodiesel crops on them? Maybe because they know that is environmental bullshit they are willing to speak here during campaigns but not inflict on rational people?

In other words: now that american corporate interests control the crop, corporate america will focus on keeping the profits while the american taxpayer foots the enforcement bill.

Fascist scum.

END THE PROHIBITION.

until you do the black market will continue to proliferate and strangle legit economies.

legalize it then you can slow down, substantially decrease and otherwise follow money going criminals.

one has to one's self and one;s government: why are we fighting a war on drugs? the answer, there is toms of evidence, it's about plain as day, will blow your mind. it's really so simple people won;t change their attitude from what they have believed and paid for as reason, there is nothing reasonable about it.

one simple fact is this: too many people today, average people like you and me, have jobs created by and in the Prohibition industry.

which makes nearly all of us guilty by association, inaction or apathy and ambivalence.

one has to ASK one;s self, that is....

i've been talking about this for quite some time: the idea of our military in Afghanistan is simply abhorrent to this American.

gee i can't type, correction:

i've been talking about this for quite some time: the idea of our military fighting for our Prohibitionists in Afghanistan is simply and completely beyond abhorrent to this American.

it is sickening. this is NOT why anyone should decide to be in our military. anyone with principles would leave it for that reason.

Ichiro,


Your "correction" was more incoherent than a Moneywar post.

phasing out funding for opium eradication while boosting efforts to fight trafficking and promote alternate crops

So get rid of the opium not by merely burning it to the ground when you see it but by targetting organised crime and making planting alternate crops a reasable solution to the people in Hellemond Province and elsewhere.

Nice plan if it works.

Next to the oil the opium crop in that part of the world is it's richest resource.

Be Well.

/K, enuff blog frivolity fer one summer evening
//Spud executes a stunning running triple flip exiting DR
stage left.

Btw, this article cites no change in U.S. drug war tactics. we've always done all of those things.

keep ding what you've always done and you'll always get whet you always got.

who's fooling who here? thew American voting public (elections and juries) is either absent, brainwashed, or just plain too stupid to know the difference -- and has been for decades.

ding = doing
whet = what
thew - the

but... you knew that.

see you soon enough i hope, spudly.

The white house is now the #1 Importer of opium to help monkey ears get it up with his ugly old lady, he has no problem with the males in his bedroom.

Daisy-cutter the whole fucking region. Nothing good will ever come from Afghanistan.

here's an idea, have the w.h.o. or someone buy up the entire crop for medicinal purposes, then they can use or distribute it to be turned into morphine and so on, thereby boosting the farmers income (and lowering the chance that product will be sold on the black market) and significantly reducing the shortage in the medical world. but that would make sense.


Ichiro,


Your "correction" was more incoherent than a Moneywar post.

#8 | Posted by JeffJ at 2009-06-28 02:25 AM | Reply | Flag

yet he is still more coherent than Johnson and Tiny Elvis.


Anyway, Just saw an article about wallabys down in New Zealand and Austrailia that would go into LEGAL opium fields, graze for a while, get high as a kite then make crop circles. they would wander around in circiles in an utter stupor.

Sheep down there aparently do this as well.
SO.
All that poppie that is being grown down under is legal crop for use in the manufacturing of legal drugs.

If we REALLY were all about free trade. The average afghan farmer should be able to sell his crop in that market Legally and make a tidy buck.

How amusing that we are trying to drive competition and entrepreneurship out of the market.

Eradication didn't work and neither will fighting trafficing or promoting alternative crops. We could be balancing our Federal budget if we RAN the drug trade.

Holy crap did Thom just say end the drug war and tax the shit out of the product to balance the budget.

Thom thats about the smartest thing I have ever heard on this site who would have thought it from you.

When you think about it, this "new strategy" isn't any dumber than the DEA running around "eradicating" what we call ditch weed.

All along the Missouri River there were hemp plantations. Rendering the fiber required lots of water and manual labor. So here and there you can find volunteers from either the plantations or just the natural stands of hemp that were once considered an asset.

Of course they weigh it out and multiply that by the "street value" and the news media sucks on that worm like a bluegill in spawn. Sometimes they even run a photo of the operation and of course the agents are decked out in black SWAT togs - hopefully sweating their asses off.

Because only a fool would try to smoke it, and only a thief would try to sell it.

Yet they do sell "it" to the public who are largely ignorant. But as long as the local cops get some credit, and people really believe that someone is growing the evil weed in their backyard, the ruse works.

If only it was "just" the DEA then maybe some rational thought would prevail and farmers would be able to grow hemp, and the more potent varieties would be rescheduled to a Class 3 so doctors could prescribe it. The VA hospitals dispense it for nausea when patients undergo chemotherapy, but according to the same government it has no medicinal value.

Now virtually every bureaucracy, big and small, receives funding of one sort or another from the drug war, so it is self-perpetuating. No bureaucrat wants his budget cut and so the farce goes on.

Economics would dictate a different course of action in Afghanistan, as I mentioned in the post. And you can bet the farmers don't see anything close to $70 million for their crop so we could probably pay them a lot less and they'd be happy - if we could protect them from the drug lords.

But leave it to the ObamaMamas to deploy a feel good but largely useless program of crop replacement at a cost that is surely 10 times as expensive.

We could be balancing our Federal budget if we RAN the drug trade.

We do run the drug trade. It's called the CIA.

Sorry Dick Holbrooke, but anybody with half a brain doesn't fall for revisionist history. Like them or not, the opium trade exploded after the Taliban was taken out of power...because if you grew opium under their reign, they killed you...no questions asked. Now I'm supposed to believe that religious fundamentalists have turned in Nino Brown? Uh huh...

news.bbc.co.uk


Here are the stoned kangaroos!

END THE PROHIBITION.

until you do the black market will continue to proliferate and strangle legit economies.

#4 | Posted by ichiro

Note to Ichiro: It is well documented that over 95% of the Afghani opium crop ends up not in the US, but in the European and Asian markets. Little makes it to North American shores. Americans get their fix from countries south of the US border.

"Economics would dictate a different course of action in Afghanistan, as I mentioned in the post. And you can bet the farmers don't see anything close to $70 million for their crop so we could probably pay them a lot less and they'd be happy - if we could protect them from the drug lords.

But leave it to the ObamaMamas to deploy a feel good but largely useless program of crop replacement at a cost that is surely 10 times as expensive."

You tell 'em Aggie. Problem is, about 99% of the pricks we have elected from Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Los Angeles and such have never SEEN a friggin' farm and certainly don't know the difference between a rooster and a capon. It becomes more depressing every day when I see the decisions these azzholes are making.

Next to the oil the opium crop in that part of the world is it's richest resource.

#9 | Posted by dethspud

You mean we are in Afagastan for their oil too? We did SO well in Iraq getting their oil for ourselves. I just love the $1.00 per gallon I am paying now.

No snip you fucking moron. The goal of corporate america was not to lower the price. It was to control who profits.

Stupid fucking dumbass inbred motherfucker.

"Stupid fucking dumbass inbred motherfucker."

And what's worse, those are his good points!

Wow. Shawn must be right. He used the most cuss words.

I remember we kicked ass in the war on China White heroin. NOT!

Next to the oil the opium crop in that part of the world is it's richest resource.
#9 | Posted by dethspud
You mean we are in Afagastan for their oil too?

Naturally the Turgid Tuber knows not. The prize is the natural gas in the Caspian Basin. We've encroached on that from the Euro side but trying to build a pipeline through Afghanistan south to India became the goal of Unocal and then Enron got into it by building a plant there. Karzai was one of the gophers.

Or we could make peace with Iran, but that still leaves India without a pipe.

Think I'm wrong, look at where our troops secured the field, versus where the Talibs have gained ground. But it may never be completed because everyone over there quibbles about the meanest thing.

Still the government does this stuff all the time. In the 80's the Mexicans were complaining because the water in the Colorado was so saline that salt was building up in their irrigated fields. So the proposed solution was to build a desalination plant - until an Ag Econ Prof totaled up the cost of building and maintaining the plant and compared that to a per acre incentive to Arizona farmers not to irrigate their fields along the Colorado. About $6000 per acre.

The farmers were all for it. Quit the desert and go fishing. But no, and of course the desalination plant was never built. They just paid off the Mexicans, who sold out for pennies on the dollar, and the "smart" boys went back to DC.

You mean we are in Afagastan for their oil too?

A long delayed, deeply wanted natural gas opipeline project, technically.

Spud sed "oil" cos he didn't want to scare Sniper with any big words.

Until you realise that all American foreign policy in this area is predicated on America retaining preferred access to the regions natural energy wealth and that this has been the case for decades your ability to participate meaningfully in the debate will be of little real value.

K?

Be Well.

hsed "oil" cos he didn't...

know what he was talking about and his lame ass is blown. Every country seeks resources so it's not just the US.

"Technically" he nows elucidates for sniper - who was just taking pot shots and could care less.

Value howere would be nuke said pud, slice and dice and whip into some Mashed Potatoes.

know what he was talking about and his lame ass is blown. Every country seeks resources so it's not just the US.

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Back to the so called 'founding fathers'.

Bunch of gun running, drug dealing, slave trading, monkey fucking, bushwhacking, mafioso motherfuckers from the start. Nothing has changed.

China has been in Sudan guarding and pumping oil while ignoring the genocide that's going on around them. Russia has done the same. The found any resistance to their rule and they would wipe out a whole village.

But I don't think monkeyfucking is appropriate or accurate when attributed to our founding fathers.

Oh I'm sorry. They had slaves to sodomize instead.

My bad.

Shawn,
I'm sure I wasn't alone when I thought that was what you meant by "monkey fucking"

May as well just legalize the stuff, then tax the hell out of it. that will help balence the bujit.

Interesting this thought about taxing a legalized drug like heroin.

Now heroin quickly makes one an addict, correct?

So one would therefore have a medically recognized disease, correct?

And the heroin would be prescribed by a physician as part of a maintenance program for the heroin addict, correct?

So we would be taxing their medically prescribed medicine, correct?

We would be taxing someone for having a disease?

What's alcoholism?

"What's alcoholism?"

What it is not: a disease.

One cannot catch alcoholism as one catches the cold or flu.

What it is: an addiction.

Alcoholism is an addiction to a toxic chemical substance. Ingesting too much of this toxin will lead to organ damage and failure.

Referring to alcoholism as a disease is simply a soft pedal to invoke the "Oh poor baby" reaction because alcohol is so mainstream.

But if you're all strung out on hoarse, or even smoking some Herbage, man, you're a frakkin' drug addict and need to go to jail. (Hypocrites!)

Interestingly though, the ingesting of alcohol by the public in the mass quantities they do cause for more grief, problems, and death than all the controlled substance combined.

None of this by no measure excuses heroin, but the total societal damage done by heroin is minor compared to alcohol.

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