YYYYEEEEHHHHAAAAWWWW!!!!

FIRST!

F.U. LEEATWATER! *grin*

Man, that was a good steak. Saturday and Tuesday they fire up the grill. No one caught a tuna last night, so no tuna steaks. Damn.

(don't worry furrytroll and ratsa -- I'm still a miserable little bitch crying inside even though I just had a tasty steak. LOL)

ECONOMY SHRINKS 5.5 PER CENT IN PAST SIX MONTHS

hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm..........lets see now..that would make a person think that something really bad and drastic happened six months ago

lets see...june......may.....april.
....march....feb..............
jan

OOPS>......

Maria Belen Chapur pix. post em if you got em

and let me start off again with one STAT that should make even the nastiest and crudest and demonic and meanist and most vicious personal attacker on this site angry at the dems

HEALTH CARE paCKAGE

will include tax on health care benefits
BUT NOT IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE FOLLOWING TWO ..

CONGRESS.....

UNION....

if that shit doesnt piss you off then you are either a member of the celisary fan club, a dunce, or someone named SAROUGUE....( oh oh...good one..)

HEY any of you knuckleheads seen stewart the past couple of nights..

he has gotten to going after the white house much more than I thought he would

good for him

RIGHT?????

seen on a birthday greeting card at the store this morning:

"never kick a fresh turd on a hot day."

harry s. truman

greetings, fellow humans.

"AFKABL2".....Well numb nuts what was the % of the Economy dropping in the last 6 Months of 2008??????

I know FACTS are very disturbing to Fucks like you but, President Obama did have to pick up the pieces you lord an savior GWB had left.
The seeds of the Obama Presidency unfortunately was planted by the most Corrupt an incompetetant Administration in our History. Only IGNORANT Partisian ASSHOLES like you would try to define ones Presidency after only 6 months. By the way does Stupidity run in your Family I hope not, you seem to have enough for any one Family....

oh wow

I was afraind I was going to post on a saturday and not be lucky to be exposed to your 'unique' method of showing what you are...

thanks for that..........

FACT>..the bush economy "ROARED" through most of his terms....and obama is taking a recession and making it far worse.

#10 | Posted by celisary at 2009-06-27 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag: Feel the love

good one goat

it feels good to be enough of a 'vet' on this site to take comments from someone like that and just smile about it..times was that shit like that would get me upset but not anymore...consider the source and smile and go one spreading the truth about this administration that seems to be on a self destruction mode

you know...GET ALL This shit out there and DO IT QUICK because they know they wont be there long..

BL2 -- do you know that yesterday celery said that Bush and Cheney are innocent of any crimes? I never thought I'd live to see the day that he would admit it. Check it out:

In America you are Innocent until proved Guilty, . . .what about this don't you Conservative Law an Order Fucks don't Understand???????

#137 | Posted by celisary at 2009-06-25 07:23 PM |

yeah, that's what i read into it also, goatman...hehehe...

I missed that....

PREDICTION

the 8 republicans who voted FOR the taxation of amricans yesterday or in REAL TROUBLE

AND dems who voted no.....here is the plan

THE NUMBER 219 was KNOWN well before yesterday and certain DEMOCRATS who are facing tough reelection in 2010 were GIVEN the No vote on this bill so they can tell people back home WITH A STRAIGHT FACE that THEY DIDNT VOTE FOR IT.;..while all the time knowing FULL WELL that it would pass with this number....

there were three area dems here who voted NO..and two of the three have already had aricles written talking about thier "TOUGHEST RE ELECTION TO DATE"

so remember that when the campaigns start

the human spirit:

note to bl2 - you ought to craft a letter to the editors of the papers where those rinos serve and enlighten the people - i'm beginning a drive to do just that.

break-in at iranian embassy in sweden:

HOLY CRAPPE! WTF'S WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE WITH AN (R) AFTER THEIR NAMES?!?:

"note to bl2 - you ought to craft a letter to the editors of the papers where those rinos serve and enlighten the people - i'm beginning a drive to do just that."

Craft a letter? Hahahahahaha. AKAstupid is going to "enlighten" someone? This must be a parody. FF.

HOLY CRAPPE! WTF'S WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE WITH AN (R) AFTER THEIR NAMES?!?:

I do the same thing at the beach at Padre Island, Nanc. It's secluded enough that I can get by with it.

note to bl2 - you ought to craft a letter to the editors of the papers where those rinos serve and enlighten the people - i'm beginning a drive to do just that.

#18 | Posted by nanc at 2009-

I have already crafter the first draft of letters to local rag about the area dems who voted NO to warn people when they start campaigning that thier "NO" vote has no bearing on thier view on this issue.

and all of the pundits are saying that the senate is not a slam dunk but arent the numbers WAY in favor of this 'raping' of our economy?

nice try null....

I take a little more care on letters sent out to people who I may actually give a shit about them being able to read it...on first reading...lol

"FACT>..the bush economy "ROARED" through most of his terms...."

Borrowing all the way through.
Anyone could have created prosperity, just borrow 5 trillion. Unfortunately, they ran out of dough at the end and revealed their little scheme to the whole world. It will never be the Obama Depression because it was the Bush Depression first. Obama would have to fix the Bush Depression and start a new one of his own if he wanted one named after himself.

AND ANOTHER CULTURE OF CORRUPTION REPORT

YES..I know...pelosi said that if dems were in charge in 2006 that it would all be cleaned up..but she was just kidding...

DANIEL ISSA.........asking to get subpoena to look into the "friends of angelo" deals at countrywide mortgage..and FOR SOME STRANGE REASON>..he is having trouble getting that...even AIG, according to ISSA..wants to have a 'looksee' into it but AGAIN...having trouble getting subpoena...
HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmm
mmm I WONDER WHO it is that is balking on that document needed to get to facts in this case??????

I KNOW
I KNOW
I KNOW

THE OBJECT OF the subpoena THEMSLEVES>

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
H

never in a hundred years will you make anyone believe bush left a depression....I know that wont deter you though..

SO lets have it....lol

and the deficit was less than a trillion

(AND THE fact that I say less than a trillion is a testement to the economic nuclear blast from the dems in powere..FOR NOW>>>)....in other words...billion was a lot under bush...but under obama...its just getting the discussion started.

AND DANNI

I am so excited about being WITH YOu on an issue like we were before when BUSH was pusing immigration reform as in AMNESTY
I am sure you will join in with the same energy when its OBAMA PUSHING IT as you did when it was BUSH pushing it...

and THIS TIME, there will be more than likely DOUBLE DIDGET UNemployment as they attempt to ADD 20 or so MILLION people to the ROLL....

like I said..CANT WAIT....

pusing immigration OOPS.......this was an accident, didnt mean to use the word..pussing

pushing of course...tee hee

"I KNOW
I KNOW
I KNOW

THE OBJECT OF the subpoena THEMSLEVES>

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
H

#26 | Posted by afkabl2

Lose the fucking caps, asshole. When is RCADE going to start deleting these cap-ridden posts?

Lose the fucking caps, asshole. When is RCADE going to start deleting these cap-ridden posts?

#30 | Posted by nullifidian at

OKAY DILDO BREATH>>.I'll LOSE THEM WHEN THEY PRY MY COLD DEAD LITTLE finger on my left hand off the CAPS SHIFT BUTTON

its not my fault..
hello my name is afkabl2 and IM a CAPS ADDICT....

HEY I can apply to the government teat and get some money to help me with my CAPS SHIFT addiction.

THANKS for the tip..nullifan...

OKAY LADIES AND GERMS

last two posts shinnning light on democrat culture of corrupting and general destruction of our capitalist system..

BLACK CACAUS members who took trip to the carribean....headed by CHARLIE RANGLE........
there seems to be some development about charges of impropriety...(SP)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

not the noted tax cheat rangle....whowouldathunkit????

#31 | Posted by wurster

it seems only the promiscuous or those who've received blood transfusions should be tested.

OOPS FORGOT 2nd AND LAST POST OF the morning shift

K stoessle reports on yet another chink in the global warming assault on our economy and thus our place in the world....
and also a Hefty bump in the personal bank accounts of algore and Pelosi..........

WELL SHIT>..couldnt locate the stoessal link but here is one from george will...and I am reading a collection of his columns...what a great writer even if I do have to have a dictionary close by..

DAMN
sorry for this one
BE sure to catch GIBBS answer to the question when posed..why do we want to do what spain has done on global warming and they HAVE lost jobs..
his answer would be funny if not so typical

and OUT>...

HELP

come back quick and give suggestions on some book concerning federal reserve...looking for info on that topic

Nanc - Once a year the dems have to remind their free-loving, drug addicted, queer, and basically valueless constituency to get tested for AIDS. I thought it was funny.

Now don't be spreading AIDS and other disease to each other you silly liberals.

Today is my 20th Anniversary. I wonder what percentile that puts us in.

Also, as an atheist, how would we compare to religious married couples?
Although to be fair, my wife does have some spirituality, rooted in earth based beliefs. She does not, however, believe in a god in the Judeo-Xian-Muslim tradition.

20 years of living with a woman?????????

this calls for a crossing of the policial battle line..

congrats...you are a better man than most

and your ideas on how you made it 20???

besides doing WHATEVER SHE WANTS YOU TOO...

AND YES I know Im supposed to be gone but I came across this.>>NOT literally...and figured that I would risk the ire of posters here by posting again

since jackson's death, we have basically forgotten about this icon's death and I am sure the men here will join me in watching these about Farrah

Congrats briwo!

I think have seen where divorce rates are the same between christian and agnostic/atheist couples.

and that link means what to you??

that an atheist can be as pussy whipped as a christian...LOL

happy anniversary, briwo and bride!

we're in our 20th year together - it gets better every day!

Actually, I nipped the Doing whatever she wants me to in the bud pretty early.

I think the secret is to marry someone you can talk to. When the sex starts to ebb, and it will to one degree or another, you'll need something else to have in common.

If you like to read alot, it may not be a good idea to marry someone who has never read a book for pleasure.
You have to have other stuff in common.

Before we even started officially dating we could talk on the phone for 5 hours straight.

Plus I was 29 and ready to settle down. I had sown a shitload of oats and decided maybe it was time to ease back on the throttle a scoche.

About a yr later I met my wife at a Dead Show at Oxford Plains Speedway in ME, on July 4th weekend 1988. Married about a year later.

Also: COMPROMISE!!! You must be willing to give and take and negotiate. Put your egos aside and do what's best for the family unit.

We never had kids, never wanted them. But I would advise to wait AT LEAST 2 years after getting married before having a kid.
It takes awhile to build a cohesive, stable, trusting relationship, without throwing a brand new human being into the mix.

Anyways, my .02

Congrats Briwo--

We hit 20 years in January.

that an atheist can be as pussy whipped as a christian...LOL

#44 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-06-27 02:31 PM

My wife will be the first to tell you I've never been whipped in my life. I do what I want as long as it doesn't offend her, and I afford her the same consideration.

We have lot's of different friends and do different things alot.

My bar buddy Bambi, is an example of "compromise."

I explained to my wife that every argument she came up with for me not to hang with Bambi when I'm at the bar (note, Bambi does NOT increase the time I spend at the bar)all boils down to the fact that she appears not to trust me.

Her argument is offensive to me and baseless, therefore, I still hang with Bamb, and we just don't really bring it up when I'm at home. She knows I still see Bambi, it's sort of a don't ask don't tell.

FYI: Bambi and I are 100% platonic, always have been and always will be.

Congrats Nanc! Good to see members of the opposition hanging in there as well. I don't need to tell you what kind of work goes into staying together for 20 years.

CC--if you check in here today--check this out!

The conference my Dad should have gone to posted the photos --

My Dad told me some guy talked to him about the rescue helo crash in Vietnam--and it's in his book.

"Leave No Man Behind"

congrats to you too Murph!

#48 | Posted by briwo

Is Bambi a woman?

Is Bambi a woman?

#52 | Posted by MURPHY

No, Murphy, she's a deer.

Yes, 42, blonde, blue eyes, slender, cute, exactly what you would expect from her name, but she doesn't have that rid hard and put away wet look.

Her youngest of 2 sons just graduated and is going to ASU. Her eldest goes to WWU.

And this as a single Mom. She's prety cool and he have a lot of fun together as drinking buds. ( My wife doesn't drink, she flushes too bad).

Sorry Briwo but...imho---

Your bar buddy gathering is not a 'compromise' Briwo--you are just doing what you want and damn your wife's feelings.

"FYI: Bambi and I are 100% platonic, always have been and always will be."

Famous last words. Good luck with that.

Famous last words. Good luck with that.

No luck needed if you are truly in love with your spouse.

You ladies can think what you want. And yes, I am doing what I want when I'm at the bar. It takes nothing away from my wife as I would be there at that time anyway.
since there is NO hanky panky, there is nothing wrong with having a female friend.

The level of nontrust among the female population is appalling!

#57: Finally! Thanks.

Your wrong Goatman. Lust and seduction are always a risk to fidelity even in the strongest of marriages. Love and lust have little to do with one another. And when the lever of seduction/temptation is strong enough it can lift even the strong love off it's feet. For example, I completely love my wife and have never screwed around on her. But if Megan Fox is naked in my bed and summoning me, well then...

Love and lust have little to do with one another.

No they don't. But true love consists of complete trust. I know where Briwo is coming from because my wife and I completely trusted each other. We would take our separate trips. My buddy and I would go on a trip for a weekend -- she and her girlfriends/sisters would do the same. I think it strengthens a marriage, not make it riskier.

I would never have dreamed of cheating on her simply for the reason to lose her trust in me was to lose all we had. That trust was too precious a possession to throw away just to fuck some bimbo.

On a side note, we did have an agreement, albeit a tongue in cheek one. We agreed that we could cheat on each other with only one specific person. If Mel Gibson ever knocked on the door, I had to let him have his way with my wife and if Jamie Lee Curtis ever came to the door (this was 20 years ago), I could have my way with her and my wife had to stay silent. LOL Needless to say, we were both faithful throughout our marriage.

I had to let him have his way with my wife and if Jamie Lee Curtis ever came to the door (this was 20 years ago),

God I hope you have updated that pact.

#61: Vincent D'Onofrio for my wife.

Jennifer Aniston for me. I think. It changes alot.

God I hope you have updated that pact.

LOL That's why I noted that was 20 years ago.

I don't know who it would be today. Jennifer Anniston maybe or Jessica Biel. Katherine Zeta Jones is hot in a MILFy sort of way, too.

Murphy

I saved both links in your #50 and will check them out later today. It's just great your Dad is just keeping in contact with the 'Nam guys again. He doesn't necessarily have to go to the reunion. Just talking to them and seeing their photos has probably been good (and therapeutic) for your Dad in a lot of ways. THANKS for putting up the links!

#46 | Posted by briwo

in marriage it is not necessarily what we have in common that keeps the spark alive, but our differences - who'd want to be with someone exactly like them? BORING!

...not to negate the fact two SHOULD have to some degree a number of things in common.

I don't know who it would be today. Jennifer Anniston maybe or Jessica Biel. Katherine Zeta Jones is hot in a MILFy sort of way, too.

Of course that is a one way street. The wife is still stuck with Mel. The booking picture Mel that is.

My bar buddy Bambi...42, blonde, blue eyes, slender, cute, exactly what you would expect from her name, but she doesn't have that rid hard and put away wet look...I explained to my wife that every argument she came up with for me not to hang with Bambi when I'm at the bar...all boils down to the fact that she appears not to trust me.

Bambi and I are 100% platonic, always have been and always will be.

-- Briwo

Just because your wife can trust you, doesn't mean she can trust your drinking buddy, Bambi.

CC: you have fallen into the same trap as my wife. If Bambi reached over under the bar and grabbed my cock, what would I do?
It's the lack of inate trust.

The answer of course would be to remove Bam's hand, take her car keys, and get her a ride home.

It's the not trusting ME that is the real issue. And I've noticed most women just do not get this distinction.

Jane Seymour is still pretty Milfy, although she's drifting into GILFY territory.

Phoebe Cates during the Ridgemont High Days for sher.

We would take our separate trips. My buddy and I would go on a trip for a weekend -- she and her girlfriends/sisters would do the same. G-man

Sorry G-Man--that is not even close to the same thing as getting drunk with a single mom at a bar every week.

...We would take our separate trips. My buddy and I would go on a trip for a weekend -- she and her girlfriends/sisters would do the same. I think it strengthens a marriage, not make it riskier.

I would never have dreamed of cheating on her simply for the reason to lose her trust in me was to lose all we had. That trust was too precious a possession to throw away just to fuck some bimbo.

- Goatman

And no way, if you had a regular and normal marriage, can you make me believe you would have allowed your wife to go off on a weekend trip alone with a male friend and not have had at least some concern and doubt -- if not about her, then at least about her male traveling companion.

#70 GILFY

LOL

The answer of course would be to remove Bam's hand, take her car keys, and get her a ride home.

My phone number is listed. Only if she is really drunk though.

MURPHY

Hahaha -- just now saw your post #72!

We women are not stupid! "Bambi" knows Briwo is a married guy yet seems to like to spend all her time talking to him. You don't want to spend your time with people you don't like and enjoy their company. Sorry, Mrs. Briwo needs to tell Briwo to tell Bambi "bye bye" and stick to just yukking it up with the guys at the bar.

And I've noticed most women just do not get this distinction.

#69 | Posted by briwo

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe it is YOU that is not getting the distinction?

Maybe if you took yourself out of that fish bowl where you are sitting next to Bambi at the bar getting drunk--and take a look and think about it.

Sorry G-Man--that is not even close to the same thing as getting drunk with a single mom at a bar every week.

#71 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-06-27 03:57 PM

Why not? And it's not "getting drunk with a single Mom"

She would be there regardless if I was there or not. Same for me. But when we are there at the saem time, we hang out, laugh, have a few beers and then I head home and am home by 5 PM.

Women seem to have a very hard time wrapping their minds around this one.

OK, answer me this, what if it was Bill and not Bambi? Would that make a difference? (comedians, please refrain from the obvious gay jokes).

Sorry, Mrs. Briwo needs to tell Briwo to tell Bambi "bye bye" and stick to just yukking it up with the guys at the bar.

#75 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-06-27 04:03 PM |

She did. But she didn't win the debate that followed.

OK, answer me this, what if it was Bill and not Bambi? Would that make a difference?

Would you go up and strike a conversation with Bill like you would Bambi? Then go back and continue the relationship?

OK, answer me this, what if it was Bill and not Bambi? Would that make a difference?

- Briwo

You spending a few hours with your male drinking buddies at the bar is entirely different.

No problem with that whatsoever.

Maybe if you took yourself out of that fish bowl where you are sitting next to Bambi at the bar getting drunk--and take a look and think about it.

#76 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-06-27 04:03 PM

AGAIN, I am at the bar for 2 hrs most. 2-3 beers, home by 5 PM.

maybe once a week. You keep blowing it out of proportion.

If me and Bubba were in that fishbowl it would be OK because we straight, right? But if it's Bambi, she's female, so of course I won't be able to control myself and will fall to her wiles and end up fucking her.

That is fucking insulting frankly.

Briwo

You spending a few hours with your male drinking buddies at the bar is entirely different.

No problem with that whatsoever.

#80 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-06-27 04:08 PM |
Why?

She did. But she didn't win the debate that followed.

#78 | Posted by briwo at 2009-06-27 04:05 PM

Then Mrs. Briwo needs to see link in my post #68. LOL

Would you go up and strike a conversation with Bill like you would Bambi? Then go back and continue the relationship?

#79 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-06-27 04:07 PM

All the time. I have plenty of male bar friends as well. Keep in mind this is a small bar, music, couple of pool tables, nothing major.

Why?

#82 | Posted by briwo

Why would you even need to ask "why"?

#68: Thanks CC!

Bill would be fine to buddy with.

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She did. But she didn't win the debate that followed.

#78 | Posted by briwo

So much for your idea of 'compromise'.

---

Little do you realize what goes on in a womans' heart there Briwo.

Little by little you foster resentment.

Why not ask your wife if she feels any resentment?

Oh I forgot--she lost that debate.

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And I guess you would think it peachy king if your wife had a drinking male buddy--single dad with kids--that she was with week after week--day after day at 5 pm? And his name was Jack.

Your separate trips away from your wife were with other men,

But if I wasn't trustworthy, I could easily have have been screwing around. She didn't know if we had women in the campsite or were screwing whores on our trips to the border.

#85, because I don't understand why men can't have platonic relationships with women. I do it all the time. I'd say the majority of my friends are female.

A big reason is because I work in a ratio 20 female employees to 1 male. It's just a strange anamoly in the industry I work in.

If me and Bubba were in that fishbowl it would be OK because we straight, right? But if it's Bambi, she's female, so of course I won't be able to control myself and will fall to her wiles and end up fucking her.

That is fucking insulting frankly.

#81 | Posted by briwo

Only if you are bisexual--then we could lecture you on Bubba too.

;o)

Murphy, CC, do y'all realize how sexist that attitude is? Why shouldn't a man be able to have a woman for a platonic friend? Why must he stick with other men only?

Briwo's wife obviously trusts him. Trust can only strengthen a marriage.

If Bambi was a "regular" at the bar -- and I've spend enough time in bars to know every bar has their regulars and a lot are good people who don't go in the bar just to hook up with someone but go in to just relax and talk and have a few drinks -- and you didn't spend ALL your time in talking only to Bambi, well maybe it might be different.

But your wife has discussed Bambi with you before so there is something there which causes her some concern.

For instance, you described Bambi to us as --

Bambi...42, blonde, blue eyes, slender, cute, exactly what you would expect from her name, but she doesn't have that rid hard and put away wet look...

Now why should you even care (or have even noticed) whether or not Bambi had a "ride hard and put away wet look"? Hmm? And you wonder why your wife may have some doubts? lol!

Now why should you even care (or have even noticed) whether or not Bambi had a "ride hard and put away wet look"? Hmm? And you wonder why your wife may have some doubts? lol!

So if Bambi looked more like Rosie Odonnell you would have a different perspective?

Murphy, CC, do y'all realize how sexist that attitude is? Why shouldn't a man be able to have a woman for a platonic friend? Why must he stick with other men only?

Because men don't always think only with the head that is attached to their neck, that's why.

Men are men. Need we say more?

Besides, we weren't talking only occasional female acquaintances or neighbors, we were talking about the inability for men to have "platonic" weekend trips with another female or for a married guy to spend hours in a bar drinking with a single female and not have something come out of it.

And no way, if you had a regular and normal marriage, can you make me believe you would have allowed your wife to go off on a weekend trip alone with a male friend and not have had at least some concern and doubt -- if not about her, then at least about her male traveling companion.

Back in my last lifetime when I was a telecom cubicle commando, I used to travel to San Francisco at least one week a month to test new software and hardware for Sprint's switching network. This went on for about 11 years. The lady who ran the lab was very attractive. We would sometimes work well into the night. My wife never had a problem with it. I could have been screwing around then just as easily as if we had taken a weekend trip together. But my wife trusted me and I had no desire to betray that trust which as I said upthread, was about the most precious thing I owned.

Funny story of that: I had been making these trips for a couple of years before my wife ever met R from San Francisco. R came to Atlanta once and of course we had her over for dinner. My wife, having a wicked and finely honed sense of humor was giving R the eye while we were eating. Finally she said, "So you're the woman my husband has been spending his evenings with for the last two years.

Poor R was flabbergasted and had no idea what to say, but my wife quickly started laughing to let her know it was a joke. The only thing keener than her sense of humor was her sense of empathy and wanting to make sure everyone was OK.

To this day, I still keep in touch with R and we are very good friends. BTW her husband doesn't mind at all if the two of us go out to dinner and he's too busy to join us.

Platonic friends are fine GM.

Briwo brings up a different scenario that is imho--inappropiate--and begging for trouble.

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I work in an industry with mainly men. There are plenty of women as well--but the majority thru the years have been men.

If there was bar hopping after work--there would be a group. Hubby was there most of the time and if there was a party--he was always there.

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The kids are another issue--If I drive a friend of Dylan's home--Dylan goes with me. I don't care what age they are.

If hubby is driving one of Paige's friends home--Paige goes with him.

Paige had a tutor--rule number one--when he was here at the house--Hubby or I had to be here too. Pretty simple since I work from home.
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And this is beyond a "platonic friend". This is a continuous date with a single mom with children--drinking-"only a few drinks" every week --for how many years there Briwo?

Amd just ask you wife if she feels any resentment over the Bambi situation.

Men are men. Need we say more?

IOW, none are trustworthy when it comes to sexual restraint?

I am not able to have a female as a platonic friend. What happens the woman will trust me and tell me when she is feeling mentally weak or depressed. I will then invite her out for drinks and take advantage of the situation. The next day she feels hurt that I would use her. Friendship ends.

Goat

You are right about trust being the most important thing between a couple -- at least I feel it is. If you know you can trust the other person completely, and he (or she) can trust you, then you'll have a solid relationship no one else can break apart. Then again, though, if that trust is betrayed it's hard to ever fully trust them again.

But I guess one also figures why put temptation out there if it's not necessary. People are human and human beings have weaknesses. Why test and push a situtation to the limit if you don't have to. Just sayin'.

none are trustworthy when it comes to sexual restraint?

#97 | Posted by goatman

Urkel maybe--but why invite trouble?

And Briwo pretends his wife is ok with this and she obviously isn't.

He calls it compromise and she lost the debate too.

#98 | Posted by jackass

Voila! Some honesty!

IOW, none are trustworthy when it comes to sexual restraint?

If a man is in the right mood, in the right place, having the right feelings at the time, and with the right woman -- no, they probably aren't all that trustworthy when it comes to sexual restraint if all those things came together.

But then again, a man may be able to push all that aside and ingore it. I don't know. I'm not a guy. You tell me.

I am not able to have a female as a platonic friend. What happens the woman will trust me and tell me when she is feeling mentally weak or depressed. I will then invite her out for drinks and take advantage of the situation. The next day she feels hurt that I would use her. Friendship ends.

What happens the woman will trust me and tell me when she is feeling mentally weak or depressed.

If your posts are any indication of your appearence, I would bet that is the reason they trust you. As for them feeling mentally weak or depressed... Same reason as above.

Aren't you a little old to be cruising high schools?

I know I deserve a shot for this....

Is it possible Cali and Murph think alike on this because they live in Cali? I believe Briwo lives in the midwest... and ...

The attitude of CC & Murphy exhibits the jealousy and mistrust that women have not due to male infidelity but because of their own sexual appetite. They know how horny - and competitive - women are and they don't believe a man can say NO!

CC believes that a man should be on a leash, though she's willing to lengthen the rope if he is trustworthy.

God knows what Murphy uses to constrain her husband, though typically women use a Lazy Boy and a big screen TV.

But it doesn't matter if it's a collar locked around your neck or a soft landing for your butt, women are intent on domesticating a man, despite the fact that a Real Man doesn't need inducements or constraints to live up to his word, bond, or oath.

At worst their behavior results in emasculation and at best lethargy.

I had a jealous wife and she used her insecurities as an excuse to have an affair. She just knew that I was out screwing the world. I divorced her that indiscretion in 76 and since then employed the Once Bitten Twice Shy approach to marriage.

Personally I won't give up my home to live like a woman's pet. For one thing I enjoy my solitude and I enjoy some pretty rough country. For another if she is not independent enough to live her life without me then she's not in my league.

None of this stands in the way of true intimacy or commitment. But it does thwart the female desire to control everything around and about her domain.

It's a lack of courage when you get right down to it.

OZ--

Since you jumped into the conversation--maybe you didn't read all the posts?

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Jealousy would show for any and all other contacts be it male or female.

That is not what CC and I are talking about.

And it's not control either.

It's called respect and honor.

There is nothing emasculating about it.

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Sorry you had a bad experience--you had the wrong gal.

The attitude of CC & Murphy exhibits the jealousy and mistrust that women have not due to male infidelity but because of their own sexual appetite....

Well, sure, most women like sex too, ya know.

If a guy finds himself with a woman who may be sexually interested in him, then you've got something brewing. Now if they're both unattached then that's great -- no problem there -- just fun. But if the guy is "already spoken for" and the woman is sexually interested in him, isn't that just pushing the temptation card to the limit?

Because men don't always think only with the head that is attached to their neck, that's why.

Men are men. Need we say more?

94 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-06-27 04:26 PM | Reply

See, this is exactly what I've been saying. It all boils down to the fact that women just don't trust men. Period. end of Story.

And your scenario of me and Bambi being regulars with the other regulars who have a couple of pops after work is dead on.

None of this stands in the way of true intimacy or commitment. But it does thwart the female desire to control everything around and about her domain.

It's a lack of courage when you get right down to it.

#105 | Posted by OzarkAggie

She really did a number on you. ;o(

And you believe that all females have these dominatrix views for control over her domain?

The courage you seek lies in taking another chance with a gal who understands exactly where you are coming from and won't resent it.

I had a jealous wife and she used her insecurities as an excuse to have an affair.

If it were just jealousy and insecurity on your wife's part and you never were unfaithful to her, then she was totally in the wrong to break your marriage vows. Even if you had been unfaithful to her, she still should not have gone and been with another man while you were still married. Sounds like there might have been other problems in the marriage? Only the couple themselves really know.

I believe Briwo lives in the midwest... and ...

#104 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-06-27 04:47 PM

Northwest. Washington to be exact. Here's where we're going for dinner in a couple of hours:

It all boils down to the fact that women just don't trust men. Period. end of Story.--briwo

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I disagree.

There are some males and females though that could never be trusted.

But by and large love is great and couples trust one another completely--and all the time.

#112, yet not one of you young ladies trusted me with Bambi.

The courage you seek lies in taking another chance with a gal who understands exactly where you are coming from and won't resent it.

#109 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-06-27 05:00 PM |

Murphy's right. You can't say all women you ever meet will be the same, and shy away all these years from women by trying to lump them all in the same pot. If it's the right woman and she loves you, and knows she can trust you, then she'll give you that freedom you seem to want to just "take off and go" when you have the need.

yet not one of you young ladies trusted me with Bambi.

#113 | Posted by briwo at 2009-06-27 05:07 Pm

Oh we trust you, sweetie, it's Bambi we don't trust. LOL

#111 | Posted by briwo

Yummy!

We lived in Seattle for 6 years and absolutely loved the place.

Then when Paige was like 2 and a half. She was sitting in her child seat in the back.

We are sitting at a red light and she looks out the window and says,

"What's thaaaaat in the skyyyyy?" (hear whining voice) She was rubbing her eyes. lol

It was the friggin SUN!

So I put in a transfer with the company and moved our butts back to So. California.

Northwest. Washington to be exact. Here's where we're going for dinner in a couple of hours:

www.opentable.com

#111 | Posted by briwo at 2009-06-27 05:04 PM

Looks like a really nice place.

And you must be a pretty good guy, Briwo, or she wouldn't have stayed by your side for 20 years.

#116: LOL!

I live east of Puyallup towards the Mountain. About 800' above Sumner.

Love it here and love the weather.

#112, yet not one of you young ladies trusted me with Bambi.

#113 | Posted by briwo

imho--Briwo--it is your lack of seeing this from your wife's heart and giving her the respect that you obviously seem to have for her.

Saying you compromised and she lost the debate is just male comeupence or braggery.

"I live east of Puyallup towards the Mountain. About 800' above Sumner.

Love it here and love the weather."

Posted by briwo at 2009-06-27 05:13 PM

Mount Rainier will blow, that's a given.

When it does, a wall of mud and debris the consistency of wet concrete will come flooding down five river valleys that radiate from the mountain. The towns of Orting, Sumner, Ashford, Elbe, Packwood, Randle, Greenwater and parts of Puyallup will be in its path.

Parts of Tacoma, Buckley, Enumclaw, and to a lesser extent, South Prairie, Carbonado and Wilkeson, could also be hit by the flow.

In all, 30,000 Puyallup River Valley residents could be in direct danger from a volcanic eruption, along with 100,000 people living in the mountain's six other valleys.

Love it here and love the weather.

#118 | Posted by briwo

Hubby loved the weather there. Frankly after two years--you know sit in front of the fire with a bottle or two--the weather wore me out! lol

It always rained or drizzled. Sunbreaks did not help.

Great summers--the two months you had!

Raised in So. CA--the adjustment was over after 6 years.

Since you are pretty close to Mt. Rainer--if you get earthquakes like every day--pack up and leave.

So true Zat--

And with the EQ in AK last week--and the problems with Mt Redoubt--They are all connected with the same plumbing system.

St. Helens --they expect her to blow again--and she is missing half her top!

With those earthquakes and volcanic eruptions predicted for the North West they also expect a tsunami -- a big one.

But if the guy is "already spoken for" and the woman is sexually interested in him, isn't that just pushing the temptation card to the limit?

I'll have to turn that around to answer you.

Being the "single guy" and not always involved with a woman, there have been times when I knew I could have a sexual relationship with a married woman who wasn't separated or headed to divorce court. Whether they had an "open" marriage or just slept around it didn't matter to me.

Usually I try to be polite an ignore them. Like maybe I'm too stupid to figure out what they have in mind.

Some of that may come from my indignation over my wife's behavior, but I also have an aversion to sleeping with a woman who is sleeping with another man - in the present tense.

I do find it insulting to assume that because I'm a man that I can't control myself. If that were the case I'd have either spent my time on subs masturbating or having gay sex.

Of course you won't find me hanging out in a bar. I'm either at home or out in the field. Some community involvement but not the sort that lends itself to sexual liaisons with married women. Or single women for that matter.

What I've learned is that women who chase men chase men, men who chase women chase women. You want someone to be true then find someone who treasures their independence. It's a rare find but I'm holding out for the real thing. Maybe to my grave considering my age.

"they expect her to blow again--and she is missing half her top!"

#120: I'm up off the Valley. About 800' Actually the Lahar Evacuation route comes up a rather small steep road to my town, Bonney Lake.

Wilkeson and Carbanado are close by, but they're lower and closer to the Carbon River.

View of Mt Rainier from my house:

"View of Mt Rainier from my house:

image24.webshots.com"

#127 | Posted by briwo at 2009-06-27 05:45 PM

Forbidden, no permission

The link didn't take, briwo

She really did a number on you. ;o(

She could have taken that walk before she had my daughter and I might have missed her going out the door but I wouldn't have had to deal with her again.

And yes, her jealousy extends to everyone. My real heartbreak was her interference with my visitation and relationship with my daughter.

At this point in time she's entering the 3rd stage of alcoholism. Daughter of a Presbyterian minister and virgin when we met. So it's not like I married some slut hanging around the wharf.

I figure my daughter is worth the aggravation. Our relationship is solid though we're 1000 miles apart.

Forbidden, no permission

#128 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI AT 2009-06-27 05:47 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

The link didn't take, briwo

#129 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Must be they banned users from Texas because it came it fine for me.

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /25/6/63/33/
32466333dlwvQi_fs.jpg on this server.

Goat's not in Texas. He's on the rig. Satellite link, no doubt.

Hmmmmmm......that's weird.

Try this one:

WOW! What an awesome view.

Satellite link, no doubt.

Yes. But the earth station is in Houston.

The cool thing is that it seems to move. Ask anyone who lives here and they'll tell you The Mountain moves.

It's also refered to as being in or out. some days even with clear skies you can't see it. The Mountain is not "out"

It's out today. I can see it from my deck. There's a great view coming up my driveway too which I just discivered the other day after living here for over 10 years.

LOL--10 Years!

Damn! lol

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#130 | Posted by OzarkAggie

"The child is worth 10 of the mother".

Gone With The Wind--Belle to Rhett.

I wish I could figure out how to pull some off my laptop "Pictures" file and post them here.

Butchart Gardens.

#138 | Posted by Zatoichi

Butchart Gardens are gorgeous.

Your picture link to the garden is blurry. (?)

"The Mountain moves."

Well, duh.
That's the problem. There is geological evidence for magnitude 9 earthquakes in those parts. But hey, no one lives forever. Enjoy!

My wife loves Victoria Island, especially Butchart Gardens and Victoria.

I try and avoid Canada, so she goes with friends.

"Your picture link to the garden is blurry."

It's a screenshot from Google Earth.
That's all you get.
She laid every brick or stone and planted every plant.
She's owned that place since 1974.
It's paid for. It's all hers. I just pay for the high-speed internet feed.

"Victoria"

On my short list of really neat cities; Loved the hanging baskets.

"My wife loves Victoria Island"

Wherever that is, but you did say you avoid Canada; Why I can't imagine.

I wish I could figure out how to pull some off my laptop

Google's Picasa is the easiest way to do photo albums on the web.

My wife loves Vancouver Island, especially Butchart Gardens and Victoria

Fixed.

Be Well.

My wife loves Vancouver Island, especially Butchart Gardens and Victoria

Truly beautiful places.

"My wife loves Victoria Island"

Wherever that is, but you did say you avoid Canada; Why I can't imagine.

#146 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2009-06-27 06:23 PM

yes yes. Obviously I meant Vancouver Island. But in my defense, I do live in the Pacific Northwest and have consumed a quantity of bud during my anniversary celebration, the quality of which can only be imagined by mere mortals living in the land of Texas.

"The child is worth 10 of the mother".

Gone With The Wind -- Belle to Rhett.

#139 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-06-27 06:07 PM

Yes, I remember that line from GWTW.

And I know you agree with me, Murphy, it was one of the best movies ever.

*sigh*

At this point in time she's entering the 3rd stage of alcoholism. Daughter of a Presbyterian minister and virgin when we met. So it's not like I married some slut hanging around the wharf.

I figure my daughter is worth the aggravation. Our relationship is solid though we're 1000 miles apart.

#130 | Posted by OzarkAggie at 2009-06-27 05:48 PM

If it's too personal just skip answering , but did she have an alcohol problem when you married her? Sometimes there can be a problem but you can't always tell a person is actually an alcoholic -- you just think they enjoy drinking but don't recognize it as a real problem. Some are good at hiding it.

I do live in the Pacific Northwest and have consumed a quantity of bud during my anniversary celebration, the quality of which can only be imagined by mere mortals living in the land of Texas.

I haven't smoked dope in 20 years, but I still remember Kona and Thai stick. If it's better than that, they you are right -- I can't imagine.

It's going to be 100 degrees tomorrow here in the San Fernando Valley.

MUY caliente!

How do you get a saying or quote put directly under your username?

I see a number of them directly under someone's username but only a place to list email, homepage, etc. on the "editing" link.

Go to 'edit account' on your user page and put it in the box that says, 'your real name'

And I know you agree with me, Murphy, it was one of the best movies ever.

*sigh*

#151 | Posted by CalifChris

In the Top 10 Favorites for sure.

And I know you agree with me, Murphy, it was one of the best movies ever.

That's what my grandmother said, too. She told me though that when she first saw it she almost walked out at the end before it was over because she was so appalled by the word 'damn' being uttered on screen. She said there was an audible collective *gasp* in the audience. Funny stuff

They filmed a couple of endings with different wording.

They kept the "Damn" part.

Go to 'edit account' on your user page and put it in the box that says, 'your real name'

#156 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-28 12:01 AM

I did exactly that but nothing shows up. Tried it three times. It's not a long quote and it's simple enough to do so don't know what the problem can be. I'll mess around with it tomorrow. But thanks for your help.

*sigh*

~CChris

GWTW?

Yeah, is good flick.

Is no "Death Race 2000" you understand but it's still worth the bandwidth.

Be Well.

No Rex today? This sucks.

Things are getting interesting here. Gas is coming out of the well. They've suspended all smoking and hot work.

"Things are getting interesting here. "

Thoughts for today ...

'Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do
not.'
Thomas Jefferson
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Colt: The original point and click interface.
4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
6 1/2. spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat.
7. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
8. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
9. What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand?
10. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore
the others.
11. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
12. Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians.
13. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no
safety.
14. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
15. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
16. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
17. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.

more ...

18. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
19. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control
them.
20. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.
21. Repeal the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more.
22. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create
slaves.
23. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun
control.
24. It is better to be in court for protecting yourself with a gun
then to be in a coffin for not.
25. I had rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Things are getting interesting here. Gas is coming out of the well. They've suspended all smoking and hot work.

Posted by goatman at 2009-06-28 11:34 AM

Is it the Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S) gas you guys on the rig were all were cautioned about at the spot where you're drilling? The reason they made you all shave your beards so you could put on tight fitting gas masks in an emergency? Hope all is okay.

Might get more interesting ... adds.aviationweather.gov

We're watching it. We are at yellow evacuation alert --- the phase before actual evacuation.

Zat

Might get more interesting ...adds.aviationweather.gov

What is that?

"What is that?"

It's a picture.

Is it the Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S) gas you guys on the rig were all were cautioned about at the spot where you're drilling?

No. That was three or four wells ago. It is natural gas now.

It's a picture.

#170 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2009-06-28 12:35 PM

I know, smartass, but a picture of what? A cloud of gas?

"Might get more interesting ...adds.aviationweather.gov

What is that?"

Appears to be a government website.

"It's a picture."

"Appears to be a government website."

Just a bunch of Sunday morning comedians around here.

I give up trying to get an intelligent answer.

Satellite image. Note the clouds off Yucatan and Cuba.

The water temp here at the rig is 88F. We ususally don't see that until August. 89F is highest we've ever seen.

I just hope it doesn't hit my playground: N Padre. I'm going there next week.

Since this is like pulling teeth to get an answer around here --

We are talking a possible Cat 1 hurricane in those websites and NOT a cloud of natural gas?

Sorry, not everyone here is a physicist or works for NASA, you know.

I always thought of September/October or so as hurricane season. But then being from California I don't keep close tabs on hurricane season.

"But then being from California I don't keep close tabs on hurricane season."

Posted by CalifChris at 2009-06-28 12:53 PM

Earthquakes and fires on the other hand ...

I always thought of September/October or so as hurricane season. But then being from California I don't keep close tabs on hurricane season.

June 1 - November 1 is the official season, but yes, the worst month is September, I think. Water is warmest in N hemisphere then.

Here is the beach cam from South Padre Island. It's neat to watch it. Changes pictures about every 10 seconds. I discovered it checking out one of the major hurricanes a year or so ago, can't remember which one. You could watch the waves get higher and higher until the hotels finally had to turn off the beach cam and people evacuated.

re link on #184 -- keep hitting "refresh" and you can see the waves in different spots each time.

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SUN JUN 28 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS NEAR THE NORTHERN YUCATAN
PENINSULA ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE. SOME SLOW
DEVELOPMENT IS POSSIBLE AS THE SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY WESTWARD OR
NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO TODAY. THERE IS A
LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS AND
GUSTY WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT PORTIONS OF THE YUCATAN
PENINSULA AND WESTERN CUBA THROUGH TONIGHT.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

At least those people seen in the beach cam are all wearing swimming suits. Not everyone on Padre Island are unashamed exhibitionists. lol

...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

Cyclone - cool!!

I thought all these hurricanes were so exciting when I started watching and paying closer attention after Katrina. One of the reasons I thought it would be kind of neat to live along the Gulf Coast -- as long as your home didn't wash away. I like varying weather events -- keeps things from being monotonous.

This wave over the Yucatan is projected to bring 3-5 inches of rain to central Fla, too far north to help us out much in Naples.

Think I'm going to spend the rest of the week in the Keys, where, counter-intuitively, it should be a bit cooler than the nearly 80 degrees at night it will be here this week.

When it's that hot, even a hurricane is almost welcome if it brings a cooling rain.

I like varying weather events -- keeps things from being monotonous.

I sat out Hurricane Rita four years ago in a Holiday Inn in Lafayette after the rig was evacuated. Hurricane parties are wild -- a bunch of offshore guys drinking while 100 MPH winds are blowing.

I was on the windward side of the hotel. I kept my outside door open as the wind blew over me. They guys who had leeward side rooms had water on the floor because it blew in under the doors.

That particular hurricane party was particularly wild as the hotel was also full of the recent Katrina refugees. They had dozens of tents set up in the grass around the hotel. Needless to say, they didn't last. The rig workers welcomed these people in and let them sleep on the floor of their rooms. The hotel was gracious enough to provide extra blankets. We all had plenty of booze and beer and no one cared. Some of them were crazy enough to go out into the storm and see who could stand up in the wind. No one could, but it was funny to watch

People band together and help each out when things get bad in spite of the doomsayers.

#191 -- your hurricane party

Sounded like fun. I was born in Miami and we left Florida when I was three years old so I've been in no hurricanes since.

My Mom told me of a hurricane when we lived there where she had to take me into a back bedroom and my Dad had to spend the night standing up against the front door to brace it in order to keep it from blowing open. It was the first house they bought after they got married and was small and wasn't built to withstand heavy hurricane winds.

2005 had three hurricanes ~4 weeks apart: Cindy, Katrina, and Rita. They just happened to hit while 'B' crew was on the rig. I am on 'B' crew, so I was evacuated 3 times. I worked only 18 days that summer.

During Katrina, we were evacuated to New Orleans, but were ordered by the company to leave hours before Nagin ordered an evacuation. (oil companies should be running the city?) By the time I got out, the official order had been given. Even with the contra flow on I-10, it took me 8 hours to get to Lafayette and another 7 hours to get to Lake Charles and another 6 hours to get to Houston. As all oil field workers do during hurricane season, I had the tank filled up before I went offshore. Good thing. There was no gas to be had until I got ~ 30 miles east of Houston. I was running on fumes. The interstate was littered with fuelless vehicles.

The interstate didn't pick up to normal speed until I got to Katy, which is west of Houston. That drive home was the drive from hell.

Corky

2005 had three hurricanes ~4 weeks apart: Cindy, Katrina, and Rita. They just happened to hit while 'B' crew was on the rig. I am on 'B' crew, so I was evacuated 3 times. I worked only 18 days that summer...During Katrina, we were evacuated to New Orleans, but were ordered by the company to leave hours before Nagin ordered an evacuation. (oil companies should be running the city?)

Might not be a bad idea putting the oil boys in charge. One thing they sure seem to know is how to manage safety precautions in hurricane seasons.

I remember the hurricane season last year when you wrote on here your uncle in League Cit, TX wanted to stay put in his house even while everyone else was fleeing for the hills! Guess he made it through okay.

Cit = City