Obama will be giving the public option mouth to mouth resuscitation this week, and the patient has a good chance of responding.

Keep calling your Senators and Congressmen.
I hear one phone call is worth more than several emails.

Keep calling Senators and Congressmen.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Is definitely worth a call to your representatives though.

Get involved here:

NBC/WSJ Poll: 76% of Americans Support Public Health Insurance Option

"National structure: I believe to be effective there has to a national entity with state affiliates and those affiliates have to have the ability to regionalize. I think his concern there can be addressed," said Conrad.

Notice he does not explain WHY a national structure is better. It is an article of faith.
This is nothing but a power grab and the only thing holding it back is the backroom fighting over who has the power.

"This is nothing but a power grab and the only thing holding it back is the backroom fighting over who has the power."

It seems everything is a "power grab" to the paranoid among us. They don't seem to be able this time to scare us into leaving the health care system as it is now. Next thing I expect to read is that Al Quaeda favors natinal health care and only terrorists would agree with them.

national structure = buying power, pretty obviously.

-Next thing I expect to read is that Al Quaeda favors natinal health care and only terrorists would agree with them.

The GNOP Playbook.

I'm just glad that Obama is working with the drug industry to ensure that we'll be buying name brand medicines instead of generic.

Health Reform Draft Proposal Gets First Hearing
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national structure = buying power, pretty obviously.

how much?

what do you think "buying power" means anyway?

It seems everything is a "power grab" to the paranoid among us.

taking over a huge part of our economy can't be viewed as a power grab and you consider it paranoid to assume that? (I have to insert here that I am not saying no to a national health care solution)

but it was perfectly fine to piss your pants over some warrantless wiretaps and Gitmo?

some people here are lunatics.

OK, if it is a power grab then it is a power grab from greedy insurance companies and putting that power into the hands of the representatives of the people, which is fine by me and 72% of the population.

72%

whatever. If people understood what this is really about then you won't see the support you are praying for on this issue.

72% is a mirage

"If people understood what this is really about then you won't see the support you are praying for on this issue."

Bull shit. If people really understood they would be committing violent crimes against the CEOs of health insurance companies.

"72% is a mirage"

Yeah, I'm out in the desert and I see 72% off in the distance...

Yeah, I'm out in the desert and I see 72% off in the distance...

that's exactly right. And you will keep walking toward it but you will realize that you aren't getting any closer to it. It will continue to be a destination that you can't get to.

Bull shit. If people really understood they would be committing violent crimes against the CEOs of health insurance companies.

CEOs of insurance companies haven't been anybody's friend for a long time (except our elected leaders who gladly accept $$ from them to keep the status quo)

IMO, that is what we will get on this issue (at least during this adminstration)

I'm still waiting on Corky to explain what "buying power" means.

"IMO, that is what we will get on this issue (at least during this adminstration)"

As opposed to which administration???
Seems to me that this administration is at least trying to get some kind of public option in a bill passed this year which will be a monumental achievement. It may not be perfect but it will be a start.

As opposed to which administration???

I'm not trying to single Obama out but pointing out that when considering factors such as voter scrutiny and support/opposition from the insurance/pharma industry the dems are going to value their seats in congress more than real reform.

Again, I think some folks are letting the results of a poll make them believe that real reform (which I agree is needed) is close by.

It isn't.

"It isn't."

Well, we will see. Most folks didn't think Barack Obama would get the nomination or get elected.

Yes, it should be "national in scope". It would be a shame to try it out at a local level here or there first, just to see if it works or not.

Nah. Too sensible. Time to kite a few trillion more from the Chinese. Hope they don't mind.

"It would be a shame to try it out at a local level here or there first, just to see if it works or not."

Yeah, cuz the government hasn't ever run a system to supply health care to millions.....like Medicare.

Isn't Medicare the one that's going bankrupt? Oh, yes--it is.

Gobama! Be sure to make it like Medicare!

Yeah, cuz the government hasn't ever run a system to supply health care to millions.....like Medicare.

Posted by danni

you forgot the add the words "into the ground" after "millions" to your statement.

they you would have said something correctly.

"you forgot the add the words "into the ground" after "millions" to your statement."

Last time I checked it was still up and running. Probably will require some additional funding just like SS, and probably the way to get it is to do just like Ronnie Raygun and raise the amount of income subject to SS and Medicare taxes. Nothing is free but that doesn't prove the system is really seriously broken though health care insurance is rapidly becoming a broken system which sucks more and more from emplyees and employers every year. If the cost of Medicare had risen at the rate that private health care insurance has the screaming would be unbearable.

Danni, you're so cute. Unfortunately, people like you are running Washington. "Probably will require some additional funding like SS" is the biggest understatement in the history of the world.

Still, you know best. Money grows on trees, and all that. We now have the government of the people: completely and totally stupid and ignorant. The bills will follow later.

"It seems everything is a 'power grab' to the paranoid among us. They don't seem to be able this time to scare us into leaving the health care system as it is now. Next thing I expect to read is that Al Quaeda favors natinal health care and only terrorists would agree with them."

Now you hush, Danni. I've been nice and not nice to you but only because sides mean nothing to me. Reality is all.
The health care system "as it is now" is the one forcing Canadians to come to this country because they have to wait months for critical care. That is reality!
The one we have provides charity care (or hospitals would lose tax-exempt status) but not top of the line for poor people. I agree that is bad.
My view is in between. CRITICAL care is a legitimate government concern. All else is liposuction.
I do not want to pay for abortions, birth control, sex changes, face lifts, viagra and about a million other medical sideshows. The Obama healthcare plan does not make us aware of WHAT is covered so we can discuss those details. It is a come-on and a power grab if that is not made explicit.
Al Quaeda DOES favor clitoral circumcisions and would gladly require their taxpayers to fund it, however. So don't be "paranoid" about them. That is "humane" if you do not agree all details of medicine must be discussed before we start calling it all a right.

I'm over 50 don't smoke, don't have any preexisting conditions and I pay for my own Insurance, and when I was shopping for it, I saw premiums as low as 75$, for a 30 year old male I saw premiums as lows 35$.

So is the system broken or is it just hype.

I think there is a little bit of both.

#31 | Posted by 90c2cab

You might want to check what kind of coverage is actually being offered for those premiums. Some of the ones I've seen are pretty bad.

#32| Posted by SANANTONIOROGUE

Those policies mentioned are like car insurance, when you need a tune-up you pay out of pocket, but if you get in an accident your covered.

The purpose of the Public Option is to advance the Democrats' dependency agenda. The party of government aims to make Americans more equal by making them equally dependent on government for more and more things.

The Public Option is no brainer for the Democratic Party, if your dependent on the Government would you realy want to vote in a Republican.

If the Democrats kept control of Congress under Bill Clinton whould there have been Welfare Reform? Most likely not

The Republicans take control of Congres and you get Welfare Reform, and an attempt to privatize SS.

The Democrats take over Congress, and it's the exact opposite, they push for a Government take over of the Health Care Sector.

Think about it next time someone say's there is no difference between the two parties.

This is all about Power, Control, and votes.