Chris Rock skit?

now that's hardcore

I hate the French.

They ought to pay back the Security Forces with a bullet of equal value.

Well duh, it was a depleted uranium round, but the cost will come down over time.

The high clerics of the Religion of Peace who run that country must not know about this, or that citizens have been shot in the streets for that matter....

Hell, nothing new....they do that in China already...

We must not express outrage over the Iranian peoples' affairs. This could be seen as "meddling." If Iran wants to re-create Tiananmen Square, who are we to say we disagree?

-BO

"We must not express outrage over the Iranian peoples' affairs. This could be seen as "meddling." If Iran wants to re-create Tiananmen Square, who are we to say we disagree?"

JOE-mouthing off complete nonsense never spoken by anyone except right wing idiots

"Hell, nothing new....they do that in China already..."

Actually, a very good point, why do the right wingers think the President should be speaking louder about Iranian's right to protest yet be quiet about the biggest human rights abuser in the world...China???
Cuz our corporations are making billions manufacturing in China and selling here.
Right wing outrage is a commodity that can be bought for low wages. If Iranians will work for nothing we won't care what kind of dictatorship it is that keeps them in line.

"We must not express outrage over the Iranian peoples' affairs. This could be seen as "meddling." If Iran wants to re-create Tiananmen Square, who are we to say we disagree?"

Who are we to disagree? We gonna start a war over it?

Do we have any credibility whatsoever with the Iranian people?

Pretty much the best way for Iran to stop the protests would be to have us butt in......

We always nose our way into situations under the false pretense that we can/will do something about it if we don't like the outcome when that isn't true. We pretend that we can control North Korea and get the smack down over and over. We pretend that we control the Mideast peace process and get made fools of again and again.

You don't see Russia making this same stupid mistake over and over. How many times do we have to make asses out of ourselves before we learn not to stick our noses into situations where we are unwilling or unable to back up our tough talk? Nobody takes us seriously because we are always yammering away about what everyone else has to do without backing it up when they tell us to piss off. There's no doubt in our mind that this is why Saddam thought we were bluffing when we were making demands about allowing the inspectors back in. He figured it was just more shit talking..

that's actually a deal. if you add the costs of getting the security forces there to the scene, the shooting itself, the pressure they had to put on the media to spin the story right or not cover it at all, etc.. It cost way more than three grand.

Running a fucked-up country can be more expensive than people think.

Obama's response to the Iran events may be yet another example of how the Liberals became power-hungry and brain-death in a sense of classical liberalism. True conservatives would oppose most (if not all) entanglements in foreign affairs (and some do). On the other hand, Liberals are venturing in the wilderness of eternal hold on power now, except, it is inherently corrupting whatever may remain of them even more. Obama was given a Triumph ceremony and the glory is vanishing like a twitter over the transom

#14 - I think I need my decoder ring.

True conservatives would oppose most (if not all) entanglements in foreign affairs

So glad they were in power when that Iraq Regime Change went through then.

Don't forget that was to save US from Saddam's weapons of Mass destruction, Kanrei.

#12: Sully you dumfuck. Can you say Georgia?!?!?!?!

The Intel had one small mistake...it said "IraQ" when it was supposed to say "IraN". Simple mistake actually.

So, if Obama had taken the right wing loudmouth's advice what would be different right now??

Let's see, they could claim that Mousavi is really a stooge of the CIA, they could pretend the demonstrators are American spies, lots of other fun stuff.

"#12: Sully you dumfuck. Can you say Georgia?!?!?!?!"

Yeah, that's not an example of what I'm talking about, Einstein.

Russia WAS willing and able to back up their rhetoric and in fact did. And they got what they wanted out of it. The US, on the other hand, tried to back Georgia (with Russia knowing full well the emptiness of our "support") and was quickly told to screw off. Our involvement is an example of pretentious shit-talking. Russia's involvement was the exact opposite.

How is Russia kicking the shit out of Georgia, telling us to fuck off and getting exactly what it wanted an example of what I was referring to?

"Who are we to disagree? We gonna start a war over it?

Do we have any credibility whatsoever with the Iranian people?"

Obama was supposed to restore our credibility with the muslim world. At his speech in Cairo, he stated his commitment to "government that is transparent and doesn't steal from the people," that these are "not just American ideas; they are human rights," and that he would "support them everywhere." Ahmadinejad's apparent stealing of an election in Iran would appear to be a direct call for Obama to stand up for the rights of Iranians to have a more transparent government. So where is he on this?

Joe - I think Obama is completely full of shit. So I'm not really going to reconcile his words with his actions because I don't believe anything he says myself. But, I have to agree with his actions in this case: laying low on this Iranian thing is absolutely the right thing to do. The simple fact is that there is no way we are going to war in order to "stand up for the rights of Iranians". Any other form of meddling can only make the current regime more credible after they tell us to screw off and we are left now choice but to screw off.

Realistically, the best thing he can do for Iranians is to stay out of it and that is what he's doing. Resisting the urge to grandstand in this case is one of the few things he's done that I agree with..... And I really think that anyone who believes that our meddling would have anything but negative results is pretty foolish.

I don't think that you have to be willing to "go to war" in order to appear legitimate when criticizing a nation for denying the basic human rights you claim to stand for. If the protesters managed an overthrow, we'd have a far better negotiating position with Iranians had we expressed our support in the first place. As it stands now, nobody can get anywhere with their current regime no matter what we say or do - so we may as well take a chance given what Obama claims to stand for.

Iran Charges 'Bullet Fee' for Slain Man

So Iran is run by religious fundamentalists and has a privatized repression force? Sounds like a dream come true for America's right-wing.

#11 | Posted by danni

Really?

Every administration has talked to China about abuses.

HIllary was going to recently--but she kept mum.

Liberals are all for human rights except when Obama doesn't want to push them.

It'll be pretty awkward trying to deal with this tyrant in the future.

Obama will find a way though and appear weaker than he already is--if that is possible.

Iran pays 3 grand apiece for bullets????

DAMN!! I'm gonna start up a bullet factory and sell 'em to Iran.....

I just got some 155 grain 10mm bullets.

Every once in a while, I read a story that makes me want to vomit. Rest in peace, Kaveh.

" But, I have to agree with his actions in this case: laying low on this Iranian thing is absolutely the right thing to do." - Sully

When this first broke I agree with this position, I didn't think the situation would become so dramatic though. Obama should have picked a side quickly, it might have hurried this situation along. Instead it is just drawing it out.

"And I really think that anyone who believes that our meddling would have anything but negative results is pretty foolish."

Israeli Hate Propaganda!

This is just a wonderful piece of Anti-Iran "Hate Propaganda" thats been injected into the American media by Israeli Zionists!!!

"Israeli Hate Propaganda!

This is just a wonderful piece of Anti-Iran "Hate Propaganda" thats been injected into the American media by Israeli Zionists!!!"t

Are you really an idiot, or just play one on the internet?

"Every administration has talked to China about abuses."

Yeah, they talk to them as they give them most favored nation status.

"Obama will find a way though and appear weaker than he already is--if that is possible."

Last night on the Ed Show he interviewed a REpublican Congressman nearly as dumb as Murphy who also tried to make the case that the victims in Iran could have been protected by words from the President. I don't know if these folks are really that stupid or if they are really that partisan, either way their comments just give me more conficence that the right person is president.

#26 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-06-23 05:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Iran pays 3 grand apiece for bullets????

DAMN!! I'm gonna start up a bullet factory and sell 'em to Iran.....

#27 | Posted by frankf55 at 2009-06-23 08:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

I just got some 155 grain 10mm bullets.

And then I saw this: www.doubletapammo.com

Hell, ever since Obama got elected ammo has been both scarce and expensive. (I know..supply/demand, yada, yada..)

Something to do wiht the increased gun sales that weren't part of the Stimulus Plan ....

Can't wait to get into reloading just so I can afford to keep in practice.

"I don't think that you have to be willing to "go to war" in order to appear legitimate when criticizing a nation for denying the basic human rights you claim to stand for."

Well, I already said that IMO criticizing the current regime would only lend credibiility to the current regime in the eyes of most Iranians. So if unless you want to help the current regime, you don't do that.

I know its hard to believe but Iranians, even the protestors, don't want us in their business at all.