i have some friends who specifically got OUT of the dairy farm business a few years ago and went to raising beef cattle - the writing was on the wall - seems it's finally paying off. agricultural subsidies are a form of welfare. time to take the dairy farmers off the government teat - perhaps we can again purchase fresh milk with the cream at the top as in days of yore.

"agricultural subsidies are a form of welfare."

Absolutely correct.

Mooving article, as well.

I keep telling people not to drink milk. The hard part is not eating ice cream. But some think I'm a new age quack. Thankfully my daughter started listening and is almost milk free. With two grandmothers who died of breast cancer I fear that the hormones including BST are linked to BC, and the one thing in life that I fear is an unfavorable diagnosis for Heather.

Just Say No to the most cynical advertising on the air.

Got Milk? Hell NO!

OzarkAggie

I swear as I was reading your #4 I was drinking a glass of 2% fat milk.

By the 4th paragraph my milk started to not taste as good anymore. Thanks.

Good for you Chris. Check out NotMilk and the Susan Komen link. It's under the category "Clueless."

She does make some nice ties.

I've always loved ice cold milk. Will be hard to give it up but I'll check out the link.

I'm into taking probiotics and digestive enzymes (like lactaid/lactose) so do know a little about it.

Oh, gardener's here. Have to go outside and have him check out the new sprinkler control box I just bought last week. He programmed it for me but it doesn't seem to be working right as the grass is turning an ugly shade of brown. For $67 you think you could get a sprinker control box that would turn them on when it's suppose to.

Could be the broken sprinkler pipe in one section that's screwing up the whole thing. Went BACK to Lowe's hardware again the following day and bought 10' of 3/4" pipe and a package of couplers and pipe glue so I'm going to give them to Misael now and see what he can do. Geeze, with a house it's ALWAYS something!

later

I've always loved ice cold milk.

Consider this after reading Oz's link upthread about pus infested milk:

The mammary glands are only evolutionarily modified persperation glands. Therefore, milk is modified sweat. When my grandfather told me that, I quit drinking it

The mammary glands are only evolutionarily modified persperation glands. Therefore, milk is modified sweat. When my grandfather told me that, I quit drinking it

#8 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-23 07:55 PM

My mammary glands are quite healthy.

But if they scare ya, best you stay away. lol

My mammary glands are quite healthy.

#9 | Posted by CalifChris

Well now,...being that you brought it up.

How big are those pups?

rwd

"How big are those pups?"

My mammary glands are quite healthy.

#9 | Posted by CalifChris

Well now,...being that you brought it up.

How big are those pups?

#11

Triple nipple?

Triple nipple?

Err, no. Zatoichi must have me mixed up with those women from Mars.

When Chris came out she claimed "C" cups.

And something tells me that despite her apparent patriotism she ain't going to "show them" to anyone around here, especially a grizzly pair of Texans.

OTOH, my email is public...

www.youtube.com

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2009

So funny!!!

I'd never heard that one before.

"Zatoichi must have me mixed up"

In another life, snookums.
I truly wish you a worshiper.

I have a daughter and a son; And they don't need me; I am a success.

#7 | Posted by CalifChris

Make sure the control box is plugged in...;o)

#7 | Posted by CalifChris

Make sure the control box is plugged in...;o)

#18 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-06-23 10:24 PM

It was the "station 1" sprinkler wire connection that wasn't working -- but not the station 1 wire hooked to the control box inside the garage but was a rusted connection at the main sprinkler outside where the water is turned on. Replaced it and finally all fixed now.

And something tells me that despite her apparent patriotism she ain't going to "show them" to anyone around here, especially a grizzly pair of Texans.

The electrician just took this shot a few minutes ago.

And something tells me that despite her apparent patriotism she ain't going to "show them" to anyone around here, especially a grizzly pair of Texans.

- OzarkAggie

Posted by goatman at 2009-06-23 10:45 PM

Cute picture. Might be worth giving one flash. lol

just kidding

I thought they wouldn't need to destroy the dairy cows because of all the subsidies they get?

---

As for milk causing breast cancer--hmmm--my Mom died from breast cancer and stopped drinking milk 20 years earlier. Lactose intolerant.

Cute picture.

OMG ! So far only two women have used that word and his mom was one of them.

I do like the flowers on his desktop. Goes with the decor. Flaming skimmers...

I do like the flowers on his desktop. Goes with the decor. Flaming skimmers...

Fuck. I have to agree, except don't blame the skimmer. The daytime ET changes the wallpaper every morning. And he's an ex-marine, believe or not. I gave up and just let him have it.

He thinks he is a hot-shot photographer (I'm the good one *grin*) but his whole repetroire is closeups of flowers, waterfalls, and weird shots of peeking between trees. Shit.

But as I said, I gave up and just let him have the wallpaper choice.

Cute picture.

OMG ! So far only two women have used that word and his mom was one of them.

I do like the flowers on his desktop. Goes with the decor. Flaming skimmers...

#23 | Posted by OzarkAggie at 2009-06-23 11:15 PM

Who knows? I'd probably say "cute picture" about you too but I've never seen one.

OzarkAggie

I'd probably say "cute picture" about you too but I've never seen one.

Maybe I better clarify my statement a little.

I've never seen any picture of you, not I've never seen any "cute" picture. lol

Well, time for dinner -- chicken and creamed spinach. yum

Well, time for dinner -- chicken and creamed spinach. yum

I love creamed spinach. Want to try something different with it? In the south, they serve it over grits. Sounds weird, but it's really good.

I'd probably say "cute picture" about you too but I've never seen one.

I'd probably say "cute picture" about you too but I've never seen one.

[photo] OzarkAggie

Taken early March, and a good reason not to let other people play with your camera.

#28 | Posted by OzarkAggie at 2009-06-24 12:06 AM

Cute picture!

You look different than I had mentally pictured you. Just as nice, but more like "an author" and a more "serious" type. Of course, what was I expecting to see -- you wearing a coonskin cap! LOL It's a very nice picture, OzarkAggie. I like your hair too.

Of course you're willing to reciprocate, right Chrissy?

No. Do you think I'm nuts? My email address has never even been put on here. You don't see the other women on here putting their pictures on the internet either. Just not the safest thing for women to do in today's world. I'd have no problem meeting someone in person -- I don't look like a cyclops! lol -- but to put your pic out on the internet isn't a wise move.

Or are you going to continue proffering this one?

YOU were the one who found that photo, not me! Thanks for making me try to compete in real life with some 1940's 22 year old pin-up girl. lol

btw -- different subject if you don't mind me asking you a question:

A while ago you mentioned liking to pour concrete? I think it was you. I'd like to ask you a quick question on concrete. You can answer whenever. I THINK there is a tree root pushing up through the garage floor. Can't see it but something is pushing the concrete apart and it must be at least 3 inches wide at the largest part with cracks that go all the way to the side of the garage. I'll have to jackhammer the concrete to go down to see what's causing the concrete to crack.

Had one guy out who offered to dig down and said he'd cut out the tree root (which he figures also is probably what's pushing up the concrete) and then he'd pour back in new concrete (w/rebar) into the hole where he dug (about 3 feet down or to wherever he could hit the root) and open up about 10' x 8' wide square to get rid of the cracks and then pour in new concrete. He wanted about $1100 for the job. I don't even know if it's a root but it doesn't look like earthquake damage as the crack is widening.

Just one of the final things I need to get taken care of so I can put this place on the market. Does $1100 sound like a ripoff moneywise? I have no clue on the cost of pouring concrete into a hole but will have to have it done to sell this place as i can't leave a widening breaking concrete in the garage floor. Just picking your brain on your concrete expertise if you thought that price was fair or not. Thanks!

I love creamed spinach. Want to try something different with it? In the south, they serve it over grits. Sounds weird, but it's really good.

#27 | Posted by goatman

And the creamed spinach was good too!

I've never had grits in my life. Are they like hash brown potatoes or something? I'd be willing to take your word for it if you say grits are worth trying. Must be some place around here that sells them.

I do like the flowers on his desktop. Goes with the decor. Flaming skimmers...

#23 | Posted by OzarkAggie at 2009-06-23 11:15 PM

Actually, on my own desktop I put up this photo Goat linked a few months ago on DR after a trip he made in Texas (Big Bend Park?). I have it covering the full desktop screen and the water looks so cool and inviting and I liked the hue-colored mountains in the background. I'll keep it up until another one catches my eye but for now I like this one.

I've never had grits in my life.

They taste just like the name,good for you though

I've never had grits in my life.

They taste just like the name...

Just out of curiousity, if you've never had them, how do you know what they taste like?

I've never had grits in my life.

I've had grits,I was answering Calchris,if its alright for me to talk to her,LOL

I've never had grits in my life. Are they like hash brown potatoes or something?

No. They are like Cream of Wheat but made with corn.

I'm still relatively new,haven't learned italics yet.Willing to learn though

Grits are good stuff. I like mine with butter and pepper.

Now I understand. Without the italics, I didn't realize it was a quote from someone else.

For italics:

Start the targeted phrase with the 'less than' sign, i, then greater than sign. At the end of the target use the less than sign, forward slash, i, then greater than sign. IOW (substitute the LS and GS sign for brackets)

[i]target[/i]

Hope this helps

Cheese and garlic grits are killer

... this photo Goat linked a few months ago...

[i]Cheese and garlic grits are killer[/i]

Thanks goatman,testing this out.
You've helped me before and iI do appreciate it.
If this isn't right I'll try it again

Cheese and garlic grits are killer,

Got it,thanks again

You're welcome Bruce.

To do bold, use the same format, but 'b' instead of 'i'

I'm still relatively new,haven't learned italics yet.Willing to learn though

#36 | Posted by bruceaz at 2009-06-24 02:01 AM

I've had grits,I was answering Calchris,if its alright for me to talk to her,LOL

#34 | Posted by bruceaz at 2009-06-24 02:00 AM

Oh please, Goat would be thrilled to have me kept busy talking and annoying someone else for a change. lol. Besides, DR is an open forum and anyone can break into any conversation. Doesn't mean you will get an answer if two posters are busy debating something but feel free to just jump right in anytime you feel like posting a comment. I do it all the time (and everyone hates me. lol)

To do bold, use the same format, but 'b' instead of 'i'

Thanks,I don't expect to be so angry to need bold,its all for fun right?

Thanks to you too Chris

On my laptop though, I have [this picture].

Well, if that picture wouldn't put a smile on your face when you first turn on your computer in the morning, I don't know what would.

Thanks,I don't expect to be so angry to need bold, its all for fun right?

#46 | Posted by bruceaz at 2009-06-24 02:40 AM

I SEE ###!!!****YOU HAVEN'T MET***&&&#### OUR POSTER ***#### NAMED "CELISARY" YET!!!!

lol

#48 | Posted by CalifChris

Yeah and a few others,but still I'm here to have fun....Elsewise why bother,not like you're gonna change any minds

Well, if that picture wouldn't put a smile on your face when you first turn on your computer in the morning, I don't know what would.

Morning, noon, and night. That's why it's there. If I get frustrated with a problem I'm working on I simply pause, look at that picture, and it's a complete attitued adjustment.

oops gotta keep deth happy:

Double priced milk sucks

Elsewise why bother,not like you're gonna change any minds

My mind's been changed or opinions modified by the more moderate and reasonable posters. The hateful ones who just call names and repeat "the right sucks, the right sucks" in their own special way tend to actually make me dig my feet in and reinforce my opinion instead of changing it.

My mind's been changed or opinions modified by the more moderate and reasonable posters. The hateful ones who just call names and repeat "the right sucks, the right sucks" in their own special way tend to actually make me dig my feet in and reinforce my opinion instead of changing it.

Welcome to the moderates,nothing is cut and dry,if you have an open mind.Many don't.

Left doesn't suck either

I had a shipmate who would fry up bacon while his grits were boiling and then mix the two together. Gross. I won't eat them regardless of the preparation. I've even sent a breakfast back because they put grits on the plate, and having worked in a restaurant I didn't want the plate back.

G-R-I-T-S also stands for Girls Raised In The South and I've sent a few of them back too.

As for concrete...

Roots can heave a slab or crack it, though it may be that the soil underneath has settled or washed out.

10x8 = 80 sq. foot. Let's say he pours a 6 inch (1/2 foot) slab. That's 40 cubic feet divided by 9 = 4 1/2 yards of concrete.

4 inch slab = 27 cubic feet or 3 yards.

I'd expect a minimum of $800 for a 4 inch slab in LA. Most just use wire mesh instead of rebar but the combination works best.

Cement out west is expensive so where they nip you is the sack mix. 4 sack for sidewalks, 5 for driveways, 6 for roads.

I'd ask the guy for a reference on a job he poured 10 years ago but unless you're offering a warranty I wouldn't worry too much about it.
______________________________

As for pics - the one I posted of "you" was one that you posted, writing: "Here's some cheesecake for you OzarkAggie."

So don't go around telling people that I'm searching for WWII pinups. I actually thought that was you Irish. Now I'm disappointed.

I had a shipmate who would fry up bacon while his grits were boiling and then mix the two together. Gross.

I'll tell you gross: These southern boys mix their grits, their over easy eggs, sausage and/or bacon all together then top it with sorghum or cane syrup. I want to vomit when I see that.

Speaking of strange southern boy mixes -- most of them mix mayonaisse with their black-eyed peas. Also, they mix mayonaisse and ketchup and put that on everything or use it as a dip.

And don't even get me started on the abomination called boudin which is in the breakfast line every fucking morning. Good thing I rarely eat breakfast.

OzarkAggie --

Thanks for the concrete info! I just printed it out to save it.

As for pics - the one I posted of "you" was one that you posted, writing: "Here's some cheesecake for you OzarkAggie."

NOW I remember it as soon as you mentioned the part about "cheesecake"! I had forgotten about that but, yep, I linked the picture for you I got off of Google as a joke. I'm guilty as charged! lol

So don't go around telling people that I'm searching for WWII pinups. I actually thought that was you Irish. Now I'm disappointed.

Yeah, suuuuure you did. She looked more like one of Alberto Vargas' drawings -- the ones of the pinup girls like the kind they would paint on the nose of a WW II B-24 bomber. I'm flattered but, nope, not me. But you keep dreamin' and pretending -- you'll have more fun that way. lol

...And don't even get me started on the abomination called boudin which is in the breakfast line every fucking morning. Good thing I rarely eat breakfast.

Don't mean to insult your Cajun buddies on the rig but eeeewwww

You mean you wouldn't want this on your breakfast plate:

Boudin noir: A dark-hued blood sausage, containing pork, pig blood, and other ingredients.

Boudin = barf

and other ingredients

until now I've kinda envied the career choice you made.

My grandmother used to make headcheese. I still have the large cast iron stubby legged pot she did it in. She would make a fire under the pot and up a whoe pig's head into it and boil it all day. She'd add spices and salt.

I can remember finding little bits of bristly hairs in the stuff. My dad and granddad loved it. I could not bring myself to eat it.

I could not bring myself to eat it.

You ungrateful fuck.

(enjoying the shit out of italics tonight,thanks again)

My grandmother used to make headcheese...I can remember finding little bits of bristly hairs in the stuff. My dad and granddad loved it. I could not bring myself to eat it.

After reading some of the "down home" cookin' y'all had growing up in Texas and the South it kind of makes me thankful my Mom brought me up on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, hot dogs, and chicken noodle soup.

At least there were no bristly hairs sticking out of my peanut butter.

You ungrateful fuck.

(enjoying the shit out of italics tonight,thanks again)

#62 | Posted by bruceaz at 2009-06-24 04:14

If you really wanted to raise a ruckus, you should have put "You ungrateful fuck" in bold. lol

You ungrateful fuck.

no bristly hairs sticking out of my peanut butter.

They got ground up and added to the hot dogs.

..."down home" cookin'...

Yes, but we also had fresh fried chicken (she'd kill the chicken from her henhouse) fried okra, fresh biscuits, mashed potatoes and cream style gravy, fresh cut cantaloupe, tomatoes, and onions from the garden and her homemade bread and butter pickles, freshly shucked blackeyed peas (that was my job -- shucking the peas) and sometimes blackberry pie from the wild blackberries my cousin and I picked in the surrounding fields.

Now THAT sounds like good down home cookin'!

"no bristly hairs sticking out of my peanut butter."

They got ground up and added to the hot dogs.

#66 | Posted by OzarkAggie at 2009-06-24 04:26 AM

Probably a lot more truth to your statement than you think. My Mom told us about how my grandfather (her Dad) had gone one time to a meat packing plant in New Jersey and saw how hot dogs were made and he never ate another hot dog for the rest of his life after that. True story.

All I could think of was Upton Sinclair's The Jungle.

He's the cagey guy on the right.

#69 | Posted by OzarkAggie at 2009-06-24 04:35 AM

Great photo. 1930's right?

fried okra

You can keep that shit on the other side of the continental divide

I LOVE fried okra. We had fried eggplant at midnight. I love that, too.

Ever have fried green tomatoes? YUM! My grandmother would make that and chow-chow with the tomatoes at the end of the growing season that didn't ripen

"He's the cagey guy on the right.

#69 | Posted by OzarkAggie"

Great photo. 1930's right?

#71 | Posted by CalifChris

Oops, wrong decade. Easter 1924. I missed the bottom line.

Well, it's getting late. Good night, all.

Hi AU!

lol

#4 | Posted by OzarkAggie

when i was a child i did as a child and drank milk - when i became an adult said, "GET THAT EFFING MILK AWAY FROM ME AND I NEVER WANT ANY EVER EVER AGAIN!" so far, so good.

now, i use milk only in recipes and my quad lattes.

the friends i spoke of above were also paid subsidies to THROW ALL THE MILK OUT at certain times - WHY?!? they couldn't see it going to waste so SOLD it in 50 gallon drums to pig farmers as the pigs LOVVVVVVVVVVVVE sour milk - so they got paid twice...is that welfare fraud???