"Obama Signs Tough Anti-Smoking Law Aimed at Teems"

Teems = Teens

This should finally put an end to teen smoking! Yes!

LMAO. It's hysterical to say on the one hand that little minds are so warped by a few smoking commercials that they need to be regulated away, but that the TV shows, video games, and movies have no effect whatsoever.

Ah well. Big Tobacco was wrong to have climbed into bed with the Dumbos ten years ago in the big tobacco settlement. Now Obama's running out of money, and is hitting them up for more. Time to short Phillip Morris, and go long the Mexican and Chinese tobacco names. Easy trade.

"Do as I say, not as I do, 'teems'. An' stop havin' chilrens, dammit! And don' feed your chilrens Popeye's fo' breakfast! An'..."

--Barack H.

First they came for the smokers...

Why not just ban tobacco?

Or I should say cigarettes.

"Or I should say cigarettes."

It makes them too much money.

Oh, oh. If Obama is going to deprive ambulatory schizophrenics of their primary source of self-medication, we're going to need to expand treatment facilities, or deal with their acting out.

Obama "struggled" with the habit because he requires the nicotine to help him deal with his mental illness.

Maybe Doc can compose Obama's Ode to nicotine and do his vaudeville schtick to it.

I'm all for stopping teenager's smoking.. but this bill is just more of the same.. and the same isn't working.

Teenage smoking is going up, not down. And polls indicate that teens, just like everyone else, already know that its bad for you.

More knowledge, disclosing ingredients, etc.. will have zero effect. We need some new ideas, not more government BS

yea Teem smoking is really bad.

"More knowledge, disclosing ingredients, etc.. will have zero effect. We need some new ideas, not more government BS"

This is the polar opposite of the dipshits that smoke for decades then sue when they get lung cancer.

I say let people make their own choice and deal with the consequences.

Total BS if they use this to regulate the maximum amount of nicotine allowed in a cigarette. If you think not what's to stop them from regulating the amount of alcohol in your favorite liquid remedy, the fat content of your favorite foods, the amount of sugar in your favorite whatever - screw the idea of government making choices for American adults about factors that may/do affect their personal health.

They can have my hand rolled Homegrown American Spirit non filter cigarettes when they pry them from my cold dead hands.

Smoking is estimated to take three-years off one's life. Telling people how to live is far more risky.
Mr. President, I LIKE you because you smoke. Tell the Mr. Rogers lefties to pound sand.

Stay out of my daughter's womb. But her lungs are fair game - the left.

More knowledge, disclosing ingredients, etc.. will have zero effect. We need some new ideas, not more government BS

#11 | Posted by nmg_no at 2009-06-22 07:03 PM

Well the government stepped up and did this.

Now if you want new ideas, start coming up with them.

Who else is going to do it?

Usually the biggest anti-smoking zealots are ex-smokers who have seen the light and want to force everyone else to see it too. Did Obama quit yet or does he want to force everyone else to quit before he does? The Messiah will take care of us all.

We could just show 3rd graders what a smokers lung looks like.... It worked for me...

....And the most outspoken abortion foes are sometimes women who have undergone the procedure.

I know a lot of people who smoke and want to quit, but tobacco products are too easy to come by. We should require a permit to purchase these products... that would be enough of a deterrent for people who are on the fence or wanting to quit. They could require a yearly health exam to maintain the right to have this permit.

They could require a yearly health exam to maintain the right to have this permit.

#20 | Posted by Qual70

Great fucking idea, Comrade. But let's legalize pot.

This doesn't feel right to me. I am an ex-smoker, 2 years clean, and I don't intend to ever smoke again, but something about this doesn't feel right to me. I can't put my finger on what exactly, but I don't like this.

Get serious, guys, they don't WANT ideas that would actually reduce the number of smokers. Federal and state revenues would collapse completely without the tobacco taxes. They just want the appearance of doing something for political cover.

Why not just ban tobacco?

#5 | Posted by Pirate

Or I should say cigarettes.

#6 | Posted by Pirate

Why stop at cigarettes?

- Cigars

- Pipe tobacco

- Loose tobacco for roll-your-owns

As Hawk pointed out, our government is so dependent upon "Sin Taxes" that a tobacco ban would raise your taxes more than any Democrat administration dreams of and more than any Republican administration should.

Does this mean I wont be able to buy my flavored blunt wraps?

Get serious, guys, they don't WANT ideas that would actually reduce the number of smokers. Federal and state revenues would collapse completely without the tobacco taxes. They just want the appearance of doing something for political cover.

#23 | Posted by hawk at 2009-06-23 10:33 AM

Honestly it wouldn't bother me if he didn't try to do anything about teenage smoking. That seems to be a parenting issue to me. Plus the information is there on the package for any person to make an informed choice on smoking.

I just wish he'd stop with the bull shit pretending to do something about it, and that his supporters would stop lapping it up.

"""I'm all for stopping teenager's smoking.. but this bill is just more of the same.. and the same isn't working."""

""""More knowledge, disclosing ingredients, etc.. will have zero effect. We need some new ideas, not more government BS""""

Similar measures were implemented here about a decade ago and smoking by teens has dropped significantly. The tax revenues are still huge, just not as huge as they were. In any case, the lost revenues from taxes are more than compensated by lowered long-term costs to our public health system.

Presumably the decline has been due to a combination of shifting public attitudes, price rises due to taxation, campaigns by the anti-smoking lobby and the ensuing legislation against smoking in public places.

Smell got me. I was tired of having everyone always tell me I stink of cigarettes and the amount of dust that collected in my house due to the smoke was ridiculous. I can say "shifting public attitudes, price rises due to taxation, campaigns by the anti-smoking lobby and the ensuing legislation against smoking in public places" all motivated me to keep smoking.

you mean to stop smoking dont you

and I kept smoking because of the smoking nazis but when the doc told me I had a choice
smoking or breathing...I chose the latter......

the real reason, regulate the lowest amount of nicotine you can put in a cigarette and people will smoke twice as much and so the government gets twice as much tax money,any heroin dealer will tell you this.

I've been smoking since I was a kid and don't regret it a bit. Government knows better, of course...

've been smoking since I was a kid and don't regret it a bit. Government knows better, of course...

#32 | Posted by Diablo

So you've been smoking, what, for a couple of years?

LMAO. It's hysterical to say on the one hand that little minds are so warped by a few smoking commercials that they need to be regulated away, but that the TV shows, video games, and movies have no effect whatsoever.

#2 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-06-22 05:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

???

It's not just about commercials.

It has a lot to do with banning the sale of 'candy flavored' and 'fruit flavored' cigarettes which were produced with the sole intention of attracting younger smokers.

I've been smoking since I was a kid and don't regret it a bit. Government knows better, of course...

#32 | Posted by Diablo at 2009-06-23 12:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

When your lung falls out your butthole, will you have any regrets?

When your lung falls out your butthole...

The tar build up should keep that from happening.

"When your lung falls out your butthole, will you have any regrets?"

Maybe he will. But I doubt he'll think to himself, "wow, if only the government had forced bigger warning labels and cracked down on cigarette marketing." It's now common knowledge that cigarettes are bad for you. Newsflash, some people like them anyways. I say either ban them or stay the fuck out of it.

When your lung falls out your butthole, will you have any regrets?

#35 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

What part of "home of the free, land of the brave" don't you understand?

The part where the person whose lung fell out their butt decide to sue the cigarette company.

When is B.O. going to outlaw fried Chicken?

Ya'all loves yuse sum of dat der Popeyes, sho nuf.

-When is B.O. going to outlaw fried Chicken?

Not in our lifetime.

Do not view during lunch...

Who knew "free and brave" and "smart" were mutually exclusive concepts?

When your lung falls out your butthole, will you have any regrets?

#35 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

What part of "home of the free, land of the brave" don't you understand?

#38 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-06-23 01:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

What are you talking about? Are you somehow equating me asking if he'll have any regrets when they take a toll on his health with personal freedoms?

Please explain how you made this correlation.

He's still 'Free' to smoke them and he may feel 'Brave' for doing so in spite of all the proven dangers.

I'd say 'crazy' instead of 'brave' but......

The war on drugs continues.

Two faced cocksucker.

Up in the GWN where Spud resides these anti smoking advertising laws have been the law of the land fer quite a while now.

The latest attempts to curb teen smoking include making it illegal for anyone under 19 from buying cigarettes replete with ID checks.

A couple of months ago they passed a new law which now makes it illgal to even display cigarettes in a store. They are behind curtains or kept under the desk. The 7-11 by Spud's place actually has a machine which dispenses cigarettes to the cashiers.

Teens still seem to have no problems wotsoever aquiring cigarettes and as far as Spud is concerned they are just making cigarettes more popular due to the perverse "forbidden fruit" effect.

Lawl.

Gotsta luff the law of unintended consequences.

Smoke 'em if ya got them, Johnny boy.

* lights up *

Be Well.

Up in the GWN where Spud resides..

Gay Wide Netheregions?

#47 | Posted by cookfish | Flag: Breathlessly Hopeful

The first time I quit cold turkey it was the hardest thing I had ever done in my life. I was good for 6 months until I saw that pack of cowboys and lighter on the table and no one else was around. I wondered what one would taste like now that I was a non smoker - big mistakr. One hit on that cancer stick and I thought the top of my head was going to come off. No crack addict had anything on me. I was hooked again and couldn't get the guts to quit again for 6 years.

An ex smoker cannot ever smoke again, even one puff.

Quitting smoking is easy; I've done it hundreds of times- Mark Twain

For the love of god, just put an age restriction on tobacco. Maybe kids should have to show ID at the counter to prove they are 19 years old or older before they can buy the product. Oh, and maybe a warning about the health effects of smoking on the side of the package. We should get the Surgeon General to do it.

"The new law creates a Center for Tobacco Products..."

Great! More Big Gov.! Perhaps get some of those genius global warming scientists up on this one.

I see this big extravaganza where the MarlbroBama QUITS and sets the stage for all the filthy smokers out there. But, don't take HIS word for it, nicorette and the "patch" are scams and a half.

Besides, why ban cigarettes when our country can reap the benefits of a "smoke-filled" China.

CricketCricket, sine 4/1/1998 there has been an age restriction in all 50 states set at 18.

where have you been lately?

#34 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009-06-23 01:44 PM

You do realize that regardless of the flavoring or any other gimmick to gain market share one must be 18 in order to purchase cigs, right? so, what's the problem with flavoring? an 18 year old, legal smoker? personally, i hate the flavors. but, i also have a choice and i'm of legal age to purchase them. hell, i'd like to quit, but i enjoy paying taxes too much. ;)

like Barry's daddy issues, i think PBHO is acting out of his own insecurity again.

oh crap... i fell for it. haha, funny Cricketcricket. got your point.

"An ex smoker cannot ever smoke again, even one puff."

Something I actually agree with FWTHOM about. As an ex-smoker (2 years) I know one puff and I would be back to a pack a day (regardless of price or warning labels or ANYTHING).

Raising the price of cigarettes may actually shrink the number of smokers.....some of the poor will pay more for cigarettes and not be able to afford food.
I'm a lib but I do not agree with raising taxes on cigarettes. There are simply too many people who are so addicted that this will have very severe unintended consequences.

I work with a smoker she is a white trash redneck I hope she pays 10 a pack just to punish her for being trash

"An ex smoker cannot ever smoke again, even one puff."

Something I actually agree with FWTHOM about. As an ex-smoker (2 years) I know one puff and I would be back to a pack a day (regardless of price or warning labels or ANYTHING).

I'm lucky. I can turn it off an on as I please. I do not smoke the two weeks I am at home. But I bring two packs to the rig and smoke them (~3/day) as more of a social thing since the smoking area on the rig is kind of the gathering place. But when I get home, I don't crave them at all.

I smoked daily for about 10 years starting when I was in the Navy and quitting when I was about 30. Quitting was a snap for me. I guess being brainless, I don't have the nicotine craving thingies up there to bug me.

This man is simply amazing! I mean, just when you think he couldn't top himself by solving one crisis he comes along and solves another. Simply amazing, this Obama fellow.

The harder the government pushes the teens, the harder the teens will do the opposite. At least until they become good Democrats.

#59 | Posted by Washboard

FF

"When your lung falls out your butthole, will you have any regrets?"

Interesting choice of words. Since Homos have cost our country billions on AIDS and their behavior is never questioned (heaven forbid!) smokers must be made evil to cover up?
The left, in all its glory, favors equality as long as it is allowed to shit on people.

You do realize that regardless of the flavoring or any other gimmick to gain market share one must be 18 in order to purchase cigs, right? so, what's the problem with flavoring? an 18 year old, legal smoker? personally, i hate the flavors. but, i also have a choice and i'm of legal age to purchase them. hell, i'd like to quit, but i enjoy paying taxes too much. ;)

like Barry's daddy issues, i think PBHO is acting out of his own insecurity again.

#53 | Posted by edb at 2009-06-23 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

What's wrong with flavoring? Is that your question?

I guess you have no issue with Camel cigarettes trying to turn their 'Joe Camel' character into a Saturday morning cartoon, right? By the way, they ACTUALLY tried to do just that.

I guess a Saturday morning cartoon with 'Joe Camel' could be enjoyed by 'adults' such as yourself, but let's be real, they aren't gearing it towards adults at all.

Interesting choice of words. Since Homos have cost our country billions on AIDS and their behavior is never questioned (heaven forbid!) smokers must be made evil to cover up?
The left, in all its glory, favors equality as long as it is allowed to shit on people.

#62 | Posted by Diablo at 2009-06-24 12:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wow.......such an eloquent, insightful piece of work you've typed there.

Quick question; Since when did AIDS only kill 'Homos'? You do know that most new cases of AIDS are in the Hetero community, right?

What do you mean their behavior is never questioned? Ronald 'Rotting Corpse' Reagan mentioned the disease ONCE in his entire 8 years in office. I think his silence spoke volumes.

Do you think before you type or do you just type shit and hope people don't read it?

What's wrong with flavoring? Is that your question?

I guess you are against all sweetly flavored alcoholic beverages too then, right?

Honestly, I am still trying to figure out how you came up with your on-line handle. You lie, twist words, make irrelevant analogies, etc.

What's wrong with flavoring? Is that your question?

I guess you are against all sweetly flavored alcoholic beverages too then, right?

Honestly, I am still trying to figure out how you came up with your on-line handle. You lie, twist words, make irrelevant analogies, etc.

#65 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-24 04:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

I outlined my point in my #63 post. It was done for the sole purpose of getting kids to at least try smokes. This isn't some conspiratorial fantasy, it's fact. If you aren't aware of this, it's hardly my fault.

After all, it's commonsense. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Of course you wouldn't.

Hey, are you ever going to provide that link that backs up your claim that Rick Perry called for Texas secession? Or should I write that off as another one of your lies and quit bugging you about it?

Thats like an alcoholic signing a no drinking bill. Its hard to trust a man with no will power.

After all, it's commonsense. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

#66 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

"Common sense isn't."

- Solomon Short

"Le sens commun n'est pas si commun." (Common sense is not so common.)

- Francois Marie Arouet Voltaire

banning tobacco is the logical outcome. but the hypocrisy drips because gov't will never, never let the tobacco co's off the hook. Gov't is addicted to the money they extort from big tobacco and other industries (oil) Big Brother is alive and living in the White House

Why should I trust a President who doesn't have the will power to give up a filthy habit that harms his health?

You didn't have any problems trusting the bankruptcy-prone lush.

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Of course you wouldn't.

Hey, are you ever going to provide that link that backs up your claim that Rick Perry called for Texas secession? Or should I write that off as another one of your lies and quit bugging you about it?

#67 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-24 04:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

????

Yeah, that's another thing; You stated that I 'lie'. Can you please show me any of my 'lies'?

Regarding the secessionist; I've even provided links to Video with Audio and still you want to pretend I didn't come through?

Rick 'Seccesionist' Perry & Sara 'Secessionist' Palin..........I think Rick's chances at president are about as good as Palin's now.

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Of course you wouldn't.

Hey, are you ever going to provide that link that backs up your claim that Rick Perry called for Texas secession? Or should I write that off as another one of your lies and quit bugging you about it?

#67 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-24 04:54 AM | Reply | Flag

One more thing; I just wanted to point out another of your "ignore the response and then counter with something to take the focus off yourself" posts.

This was your complete response to my explanation of flavorings?? THIS??? Really?

So, let me get this straight, your debate methodology on here goes like this; Ignore the reponse, focus on some trivial offhanded comment and then counter with something TOTALLY unrelated all while making sure to never acknowledge that you got the explanation you desired??

This is the same crap you did when you tried to say I didn't care about my tenants and every time I proved each point wrong, you'd change the attack to something else while never acknowledging the previous counter point.

Seems like a recipe for success (in your own mind).

Psssssst.........focus on the "in your own mind" part. It's what you're good at. (or this part)

"You didn't have any problems trusting the bankruptcy-prone lush."

#72 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Maybe you can list for me the companies that declared bankruptcy with Bush as CEO? Otherwise quit blowing hot air up your own ass.

And, Bush has overcome his addictions, how about Barry?

#74 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009-06-24 02:27 PM | Reply |

LOL You still have to madly deflect rather than provide the link to back up your statement or admit you were lying.

What a liar! At least your deflective gyrations are tacit admissions of gross prevarication.

Or would you like to provide the link and prove me wrong about your being a liar? Should be easy, boy.

Regarding the secessionist; I've even provided links to Video with Audio and still you want to pretend I didn't come through?

You said Rick Perry endorsed Texas secession. The link you provided quoted him as saying, "I understand why people feel this way but I do not endorse leaving the USA" (paraphrasing)

So yes, I'd call that a lie on your part.

#63 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009-06-24 04:08 AM

i guess you didn't get it: that question was rhetorical. When Joe Cool, the moron Camel was about, there was not a national law prohibiting the sale of cigs to minors under 18. if there were no national law restricting the sale to minors, i would be all for this (if it prohibited the sale to minors as well as "cartoons"). it's not the cartoons that kill people, cigarettes do. THAT is my point. screw the flavor. this is just like that stupid effing, 20 year old treaty -- pomp, pandering, BS, changes NOTHING and fixes NOTHING. fix the economy PBHO. help the people of Iran (not the mullahs). i can think of many things this moron needs to address.

this president is turning into a big ZERO.

this president is turning into a big ZERO.

Posted by edb

But.....he speaks lawyerspeak eloquently and dazzles the braindead.

you did understand it though, didn't you? one must always consider one's audience when communicating. communication misunderstood is not communicating.

besides, i'm not a lawyer. anything pertinent to add? i'll try using more multisyllable words when i speak to you directly since i understand now how sharp you are.

oh crap, sorry GreatAmerican. i'm the one misunderstanding here...

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I wonder who his smoking buddies are in the administration, no one wants to go on a cig-break by themselves.

Secret Service charts out the spot for safety reasons... I got an idea: under the willow tree, after school @ 4:20.

#82 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2009-06-24 06:04 PM

how so?