Huh? (gurgle gurgle gurgle gurgle cough)

I wish every paroled felon were required to smoke pot. It should show up in every urine test or else back to the slammer.
No justice, no piss.

"most teens in marijuana treatment are there because they were arrested"

Most drunks, spouse beaters, etc are in treatment because they were arrested.

"All of this would be laughable if it wasn't used as a pretense for violating our liberties, costing us a fortune and ruining lives by throwing people in prison for doing nothing to harm anyone else."

What part of "would toughen drug trafficking laws" does he not understand?

"So, we arrest kids for smoking marijuana, force them into treatment and then use those treatment admissions as "proof" that marijuana is addictive."

This is totally irrelevant to "DR" the headline.

"Episode Data Set, more than a third of these marijuana "abusers" did not use marijuana at all in the month prior to admission."

Well no shit! They are being drug tested after their arrest waiting for trial. And what were they arrested for? Causing an accident because they were high maybe?

"So more than half of marijuana "abusers" used marijuana three times or less in the month prior to entering treatment - and this, we are told, is proof that we must be fearful of highly addictive "super pot"!"

And so he repeats himself to drive home the ridiculous point.

Pot or Jack Daniels? Which causes more crime?

The law would target offenders who sell or distribute marijuana that has a THC content exceeding 15 percent,...

Where do they come up with these ridiculous numbers? THC resides in the capitate-stalked trichomes (mature resin glands), that are measured, linearly, in microns. If you take a dried and cured bud only a tiny, minuscule, fraction of that plant matter is cannabinoids.

There's also the argument to be made that: because of heavily breeding indicas into the gene pool, to make indoor grows more manageable, the marijuana is actually getting weaker.

Since the Republicans seem to be a lost ball in high weeds;) this is an issue I would like to see them get out in front on; being a less government, state's right issue. They just might make themselves relevant again.

"THC resides in the capitate-stalked trichomes (mature resin glands), that are measured, linearly, in microns. If you take a dried and cured bud only a tiny, minuscule, fraction of that plant matter is cannabinoids."

I have not smoked in decades, but where can I get shit that might help me understand that post????

What part would you like for me to clarify for you?

Jay, you are one of "the best and the brightest." Don't bother to clarify a thing.
(Hee-hee!)

If folks wanna waste their time smoking super potent weed that's their problem as long as they don't break any essential laws for a functioning society same as the fools who waste their $ and taste buds on 150 proof grain alcohol.

There's nothing wrong with getting a buzz but getting fucked up is a waste all around.

Can't wait til one of this asshoe Congressman's kids get thrown in prison for 25 years. Of course, in America, if you have enough money that would rarely happen. Why do I despise conservatives like this POS, let me count the ways.

Fill a private prison with enough 25 year inmates and their incarceration will completely pay for your facility, pay the staff and the operating expenses and provide you with a nice income source too. Is's a win/win/win/win! God bless Ameria, land of the free????

I think we should bring back prohibition, yea right that seemed to work out real good it just drove the industry underground. If it's good enough for Bill and Barry what's the big deal, as for California this could be an export crop, grow it sell it and tax it, seriously this would be a good way to pay for some of the state debt...

I wish every paroled felon were required to smoke pot. It should show up in every urine test or else back to the slammer.
No justice, no piss.

#3 | Posted by Diablo

Are you somehow trying to make a connection that if felons partook of Herb, they would rob, steal, beat, or otherwise act in a criminal manner? That somehow Herb removes the tendency to be violent or criminal?

There's also the argument to be made that: because of heavily breeding indicias into the gene pool, to make indoor grows more manageable, the marijuana is actually getting weaker.

Whoever was to make such an argument would surely be mocked. Nonetheless, I'd still like to hear it...

Indica genes are the basis for hash making and have been for centuries. They make better hash because they have more resin per bud and the bud-to-leaf ratio is far greater than skinny, leggy, long-flowering sativas. Generally sativa genes have a better, sweeter, fruity taste, which is why we breed stony couch-lock indicas with sweet aromatic sativas, trying to get a best of both worlds result.

Anywho, I think the potency of bud today is due as much to better techniques as better genes. Hybrid genes help to control size, flower time, mold/insect resistance, uniformity..... Potency comes from experience, perfect environmental conditions, and a proper diet --the right salts and sugars at the right times--. The genes have had millions of years to get it right. Modern sensimillia techniques --especially indoe-- has only had a couple decades.

You ain't seen nothing yet ;) In a few years 15% will be swag. This Congressman should be greatful; most "super bud" sold on the street is grown right here in the USofA, and is one less bag of Mexican blood-weed for the cartels to buy bullets with.

That somehow Herb removes the tendency to be violent or criminal?

Doubtful, but if we are going to allow idiots like Pirate et.al. to claim, "pot makes you fat and lazy", then any other psychological about-face is on the table too.

If we outlawed prisons for profit would we still continue Draconian drug laws????

The genes have had millions of years to get it right.

The "genes" are malleable. Cannabis will adapt to soil and photoperiod. The potency is due to polyploidism, and that can be induced locally using Colchicine or by cross breeding.

One thing for sure is that - like alcohol - it does alter reality, but at least it's not a poison.

but getting fucked up is a waste all around.

#10 | POSTED BY GIMME_A_SCOTCH

We'll defer to your experience on that point.

Indica genes are the basis for hash making and have been for centuries.

Sativas can be hashed out as well, you wont get as much quantity of hash, because, as you say, sativas produce less bud, but I'm betting the quality will be far superior.

They make better hash because they have more resin per bud...

It hasn't been my experieence that indicas produce more resin per bud, quite the opposite in fact. Besides, more resin just means more hash, not better hash, because all hash is, is the resin removed from the leaf and calyx material.

...and the bud-to-leaf ratio is far greater than skinny, leggy, long-flowering sativas.

Again, that hasn't been my experience. Sativas, and sativa leaning skunks, produce far fewer leafs than indicas on the flowers, therefore needing a lot less manicuring than the other. I dread manicuring an indica at harvest time, I get sick of cutting out all those little single blade leafs.

In a few years 15% will be swag.

R8RH8R, can you shed some light on this and tell me where these people come up with these THC percentage numbers, surely it's not by volume or weight, is it? To me that seems highly improbable.

This Congressman should be greatful; most "super bud" sold on the street is grown right here in the USofA, and is one less bag of Mexican blood-weed for the cartels to buy bullets with.

Damn right, Gandhi would probably call it home-grown, if he were here with us today, rather than the home-spun fabric he made famous.

Whoever was to make such an argument would surely be mocked. Nonetheless, I'd still like to hear it...

I'd say, it's because all these couch lock indica genes are being infused into the gene pool, to make indoor grows more manageable, that the soaring euphoric high that was so prevalent 20 years ago is being bred out of the cannabis, and if that's what your looking for you'll have to grow your own, because you ain't going to find it on the street now days:)

"You ain't seen nothing yet ;) In a few years 15% will be swag. This Congressman should be greatful; most "super bud" sold on the street is grown right here in the USofA, and is one less bag of Mexican blood-weed for the cartels to buy bullets with.

Outstanding. The less you have to smoke the better. This moron ought to be grateful for that reason as well. Smoking is bad, right?

"Pot or Jack Daniels? Which causes more crime?"

When's the last time you saw a news story about a violent brawl between pot smokers?"

When's the last time you saw a news story about a violent brawl between pot smokers?"

#21 | Posted by nullifidian

This one time at band camp.....

But seriously, go to some stoners trailer, throw his fresh bud of super-sticky on the dirty carpet and you're gonna have a fight on your hands.

They're right now doing to tobacco what they did to pot.

Its happening right before your eyes.

But Chocolate Carter's doing it.

Ergo, not a word from left-wing shit.

"throw his fresh bud of super-sticky on the dirty carpet and you're gonna have a fight on your hands."

And deservedly so...

"They're right now doing to tobacco what they did to pot."

I agree, Jacque. This latest jihad in Washington against smokers is bullshit.

But Chocolate Carter's doing it..

"Bills like this one Ammiano wants to make marijuana legal in state give us hope that things are indeed turning around."

That's why I love this California fiscal crisis. It can be put to good use in making Purple Erkel legal once and, hopefully, for all.

Pot is far less dangerous to America than soccer, recycling and the Sunday New York Times.

Look up in the sky!

It's a bird!

It's a plane!

It's SUPA-POT!!!!!

Oh Noes!!!!

Pot is scarifying to the average Rtard?

Lawls!

Wot isn't terrifying to a rethug?

Got to be a shorter list, by far.

Not just morally bankrupt but cowards to boot.

Pathetic, really.

Be Well.

Pot is a phase. Some people get over it quicker than others. We Americans have silly views on dope and sex. Put non-violent offenders in rehab programs. I would like to see prisoner non-violent stats nationwide. I am sure they are staggering. Create government and private sector rehab jobs and tax the shit out of the people who get caught. End the puritanical tyranny!

The "genes" are malleable. Cannabis will adapt to soil and photoperiod. The potency is due to polyploidism,

I dunno.. I brought back some Brazilian landrace beans a few years ago that could compete with any outdoor hybrid for vigor, taste, and potency. It wouldn't do shit under HID light, but in the sun she was a beast. There was no polyploidism in her, just several generations of good care and natural selection.

sativas produce less bud, but I'm betting the quality will be far superior.

I think we're trying to compare two things that break down to personal choice. I'm just an Indica guy. I'll take x-box over PlayStation, Chevy over Ford, and a short, dense, strong, heavy-smoking Indica anyday. Not just for the smoke and buzz, but for the overall growth characteristics.

I dread manicuring an indica at harvest time

"with penalties of up to 25 years in prison for a 1st-time offense"

This guy is a psycho. We don't have enough people in jail? Is he going to pay for this?

"Put non-violent offenders in rehab programs. "

Smoking cannabis is the rehab program.

I have detected on this thread a dearth of wisdom from the late, great Bill Hicks. I'm here to fix that...

I just cannot, you know, believe in a war against drugs when they've got anti-drug commercials on TV all day long, followed by, "This Bud's for youuuu!" I got news for you, folks. One, alcohol is a drug, and Two, and here's the real one, alcohol kills more people than crack, coke and heroin ... combined each year. So, thanks for inviting me to your little alcoholic/drug den here tonight.

You know what, if I was going to have a drug be legal, it would not be alcohol, you know why? There's better drugs and better drugs for you. That's a fact, so you can stop your internal dialogue. Wait a minute, Bill, alcohol is an accepted form of social interaction which for thousands of years has been the norm under which human beings have congregated in the form of social events and... Shut the fuck up. Your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs, I see through you.

Pot is a better drug than alcohol - fact, and I'll prove it. You're at a ballgame, you're at a concert, someone's really violent, aggressive and obnoxious, are they drunk or are they smoking pot? (Audience) Drunk! The one and only correct answer, tell them what they've won, Johnny. I have never seen people on pot get in a fight because it is fucking impossible! Hey, buddy. Hey, what? End of argument. Say you get in a car accident, and you've been smoking pot. You're only going four miles an hour. Vroom... CRASH. Shit, we hit something. Forgot to open the garage door, man. We got to get the garage door open so Domino's knows we're home!

But I'll tell you the truth, I have never heard one reason that rang true why marijuana is against the law. That rang true, now, I'm not talking about the reasons the government tells us, because I hope you know this, I think you do, all governments are lying cocksuckers. I hope you know that. Good. I mean, marijuana grows everywhere, it serves a thousand different functions, all of them positive, to make marijuana against the law is like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It's like God, on the seventh day, looked down on his creation and said, "There it is. My creation. Perfect and holy in all ways. Now, I can rest... Oh my me. I left fucking pot everywhere. I should never have smoked that joint on the third day. Shit. If I leave pot everywhere, that's gonna give people the impression they're supposed to use it. Shit. Now I have to create Republicans!

Pot or Jack Daniels? Which causes more crime?

#5 | Posted by Diablo at

dont know but thats beside my point

students can smoke weed and go to school stoned easier than they can get jack and go to school drunk.

hoWabOUt STONED.JAckEd ANd DRoooOnk?
~Aflaiskabibbleblaster

usa, the land of extremes: arny wanting to legalize the stuff to help rake in the bucks, and this uberidiot is talking about superpot and 25 year sentences.

Fucking Great!

Let's fill up our prisons with even more non violent drug offenders.

Why are repubes afraid of everything?

Now excuse me while I smoke a bowl.

students can smoke weed and go to school stoned easier than they can get jack and go to school drunk.

#35 | Posted by afkabl2

stupid afkababble who cares if the students go to school stoned? Typical ignorant redneck remark.
Kinda like this one?

"Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?" -GW Bush

If children are underage (K-12)they should not be drinking OR smoking. If they are college students it is up to them to take advantage of their class time. After all they are paying for it. If they come to class stoned and it helps great! If not they better figure it out quick as it is UP TO THE STUDENT to pay attention in class. Not you or me.

That's why I love this California fiscal crisis. It can be put to good use in making Purple Erkel legal once and, hopefully, for all.

very perceptive Nulli...but let's not make it too soon! My mortgage is not fully paid off yet!

Any Pot scares the GOP.

As usual they want to control other people's morals, not their own.

"very perceptive Nulli...but let's not make it too soon!"

Hey DB, you ever used an iolite vaporizer? Great little invention.

Why do I despise conservatives like this POS, let me count the ways.