Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Saturday, June 20, 2009

As Think Progress noted, despite Fox's whining about ABC's upcoming special on health care reform which will include a town hall conducted in the White House, it turns out that when George W. Bush was President, Fox did exactly what they are accusing ABC of. Here's a video mashup of what Fox is saying now and what it reported then, including footage from its fawning specials on both Bush and Cheney.

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1:47 well spent for a good laugh at Fox' expense. For your daily dose of faux outrage...

Fabulous stuff. Karl Rove would not know a thing about Fox in the White House, naturally.

Sean Hannity plainly says "Obama said we are not a Christian nation. Now he says we are a Muslim nation". The only problem there is that Obama said NEITHER.

Can Karl Rove actually tell the truth about anything or is his brain incapable of honesty?
It is hilarious to have him on Fox News pretending that President Obama could ever use any network as dishonestly as the Bush administration used Fox News as their own personal propaganda outlet.

you people are so easy..

obama has all of the state run media fawning over his every move and ignoring the bas stuff and RARELY if ever commenting on one single thing in a bad light.
obama then WHINES about coverage on fox news and now we get SA giving us a line of bullshit.

and its some sort of surprise to look back and see some of the opposite happening when bush was president.

whata the matter...the inhessent and continuous attacks and assaults on bush wasnt enough for you??

FACT according to pew research center...FOX was most diverse in reporting last election.

and JUST WATCH THE MOTHERFUCKERS sOME time and count the number of libs on cnn and ones on fox..

check out sunday morning for a microcosm of it..
foxnews sunday ALWAYS has more of opposite view

HELLS FIRE>>>IM getting sick of SCHUMER BEING on there even........


and this Also proves my point from years ago

LIBS watch cnn and others and use them here and its "THE GOSPEL" regardless of spin or truth

and FOX is ALWAYS nonsense regardless of facts..

utter nonsense...

whata the matter

HEY I DIDNT KNOW I could speak italian....

anyone notice the danielle steele novel cheney was reading?

That's really funny. Sometimes I think the TV news media is born anew every morning, with no knowledge at all of anything that came before.

If you want to claim that interviews are the same as a one sided infomercial of Obama's health care plan--you have missed the mark.

If they were all carrying the infomercial--no one would be moaning.

If ABC would report the other sides concerns--there would be little groaning as well.

Fox whining is par--just like the MSM was whining when they were getting interviews with Bush, et al.

anyone who thinks abc, cbs, fox, cnn, msn, nbc is journalism, well I have a bridge and a swamp for you to buy

#4 Oh, puhleeze, OohRah. Split a hair, why doncha?

Sean Hannity may be right for the first time in his life by saying "journalism is dead." Maybe not QUITE on its deathbed, but frail and sickly and on oxygen. What we used to know as journalism has been commandeered by "personalities" whose only role is to rile and shock and exploit. Of course, the irony is that Mr. Hannity himself is one of the ringleaders in this conspiracy to murder. He's a hack nonpareil, a nauseating stew of eyebrows and poufy hair and childish pouts. He's as much a journalist as the guy who picks up my garbage every Tuesday.

It's Fox News vs. everyone else, sometimes you gotta swim upstream to get the real info. And according to the ratings, there's a whole lotta' salmon out there.

RATINGS

yes...its not an accident that fox KILLS the oppositon with some programs beating all of the competion COMBINED.......so as far as audience there is no doubting

and did anyone hear obama say almost as much of what we have said

he was making a joke but there was truth in it

at the press club thing he said he worreid about things at night so he leaned over and asked brian williams what he thought...or something like that

abc is making a real mistake but the white house is using them so maybe it will work out

GEORGE will said on cspan yesterday that he had taped a statement or question to be used...wonder if thats the only other view and even IF it will be used...

It'll be interesting to see how/whether opposing views are presented.

Why is there an obligation to present opposing views? This doesn't seem any different to me than a presidential press conference or a primetime speech. Obama does his thing, then the commentators and Republican opposition do theirs.

"so as far as audience there is no doubting"

If you mean viewing numbers, the networks leave Fox in the dust.

I was saying this days ago.

I do love that Hanutty admitted his network has no journalistic credibility. He said 'journalism may be dead' because ABC got an exclusive with the WH? I guess he means FAUX never had any and it's now dead because of ABC. I have to agree with HaNUTTY.


Also, where was FAUX News when BushCo was paying them and others to create fake news stories for the administration?

Re # 5 and #6 posted by afkabl2

"HEY I DIDNT KNOW I could speak italian...." (#6)

"..the inhessent and continuous attacks and assaults on bush wasnt enough for you??" (#5)

Hey, Bushlover 2, since you can't spell, don't understand capitalization, and don't understand contractions, why don't you take some remedial English courses, and return when your senseless kool-aid rantings will have the merit of being correct in style, if not in content.

Face it.. all of you clowns watch fox.. the reason.. better news coverage than anyone else.. and more interesting opinion shows..

watch it and, I suppose, continue whining.

#14 | Posted by afkabl2


Yeah, and he was actually reading off a sheet of paper...PAPER!?

Maybe his usual teleprompter steez is to save trees.

But, it really gave him that personal vibe. Not that he needs it in a room like that.

Many of you libs don't seem to understand what has been happening to the press in the last 20-30 years. It has been very disturbing and it's happening right under your nose yet you can't see or refuse to acknowledge it.

I am at the point where I only watch Fox news. I am not interested in any news organization that seems to side with a political party and chooses what stories to report on as long as they agree with the political agenda being pushed. Don't get we wrong, Fox certainly is a right leaning news organization but they do give president Obama credit when he has to make a difficult decision and when he makes a good one. Bill O'Riley has certainly praised the Obama which is more then I can say for how the NY Times treated Bush. My biggest problem with Fox is when they push their Christian perspective on their program which has no business being injected into a news program. The problem is the lack of balance on reporting on ABC, NBC, CNBC and certainly MSNBS which appear to be more like an arm of the White House communication dept. that filters what they want you to hear and what they don't want you to hear. Once that bias has infiltrated a news organization the stop becoming a service meant to inform and more like a propaganda machine. That's why I only watch Fox. If Fox was in bed with the Government like the other network news stations are and pushing a conservative agenda I would not get my information from them and they would be tuned out.

We need to hear all sides of the issues regardless of what the Networks management wants us to hear and to do otherwise has very dangerous implications for the country. You are being manipulated by the media to the point of being blinded by what's happening in this country. There will be consequences for what the Obama administration and the democratically controlled congress is doing right now and you may feel it's the right direction we should be going but those "consequences" are going to hit you like a ton of bricks when you suddenly realize how much trouble we are in and how negatively it's effected your personal lives. I wish I was wrong about all this but my intuition keeps tugging at me saying "danger lies ahead". Very hard times are ahead for us all if we stay headed in the direction the current government is taking us and I am battening down the hatches to prepare for it.

Some of you people hate Fox news and I understand that. Do yourself a favor; watch it for a week and try to keep an open mind even if you don't agree with everything that is being said (I certainly don't), even if it offends your personal political beliefs. They are sounding the alarm and half the county is not paying attention. The Democrats are just as corrupt as the Republicans and now they control both branches of governments which is very dangerous. I can almost guarantee Obama is going to be a single term president and the Republicans will be back in power due to our eroding economic situation.

Yeah, that Obama is such an illiterate, inarticulate dummy that he has to use a teleprompter, which was built by ACORN, paid for by George Soros, and installed by illegal immigrant socialist union members.

Saw it on Fox.

Fox has a permanent black eye in terms of credibility, it's a complete and utter joke in terms of actual news: it's an opinion channel...and the opinion it spews is retrograde, obnoxious, stunted and narrow in scope. The perfect reflection of the portion of america being left behind in the wake of modernism and evolution; the more things evolve, the more shrill and empty the rhetoric, just take a look at alfakibble, could be their perfect spokesthing.

"Can Karl Rove actually tell the truth about anything or is his brain incapable of honesty?"

Danni:

Displays of animal cunning are not proof that an intellect exists.

RE #22: "Bill O'Riley has certainly praised the Obama which is more then I can say for how the NY Times treated Bush."

The NY Times treated an idiot like an idiot, what's the big deal?

O'Reilly praises Obama in that way he does, saying "Now, I'm all for blah-blah-blah, but...," and then illuminates some slippery slope that only exists in the minds of FoxNews viewers, like you.

I've already taken your bet, and watched enough FoxNews to know exactly how biased it is. For the record, I don't watch the other mainstream cable news networks for many of the reasons you say.

But please understand that all these networks blend ANALYSIS with their news coverage so easily and slickly that many, if not most people probably don't even realize that is what they're watching and hearing.

Read the news, from multiple sources. That's what I do. I'm doing it right now!

Read foreign sources... independent sources.

No one news outlet is 'fair and balanced.'

I think the primary difference involved here is a specific policy position is involved vs the "day in the life" all networks will typically try to get with the POTUS.

#4 | Posted by OohRah

Obvious if you pay attention. But to the librul's who visit here, paying attention is not important.

Fox is the only Network with credibility, All the brain dead pussies watch nothing but the Gay News Networks, and would not know the truth if it bit them in their smelly tutu's

Fox has a permanent black eye in terms of credibility, it's a complete and utter joke in terms of actual news: it's an opinion channel...and the opinion it spews is retrograde, obnoxious, stunted and narrow in scope. The perfect reflection of the portion of america being left behind in the wake of modernism and evolution; the more things evolve, the more shrill and empty the rhetoric, just take a look at alfakibble, could be their perfect spokesthing.

#24 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-06-20 04:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennett and Harris would be so proud that you swallow everything they feed you. All proponents of "The New Atheism's" basic approach:

1. An unprecedented boldness (a.k.a., in your face)
2. A clear and specific rejection of the Christian God of the Bible
3. An explicit rejection of Jesus Christ
4. A specific grounding in scientific argument (your precious modernism and evolution)
5. A refusal to tolerate moderate and liberal forms of belief
6. An attack on toleration (yet it is the theist who often is labeled intolerant)
7. A questioning of the rights of parents to inculcate belief in their children
8. The claim that religion itself must be eliminated in order to preserve human freedom

Although you don't hit all of them all of the time, the pattern is there.

Of course, the "new" atheism is as morally bankrupt and personally damning as the old.

Wait and see.


Fox is the only Network with credibility, All the brain dead pussies watch nothing but the Gay News Networks, and would not know the truth if it bit them in their smelly tutu's

#28 | Posted by Browneye at 2009-06-20 05:50 PM

All the left leaning news outlets are going bankrupt due to lack of viewers. All the left leaning newspapers are going bankrupt. The simple answer is people on the left don't read newspapers or watch the news. Obama won this election because he spent 37% of his advertising dollars placing ads on the cartoon network.

Say what you want but Fox news is pulling in the highest ratings. It's news for people that think. Maybe that's why you watch CNN or MSNBC.

" It's news for people that think."

Is it funny or sad that this clown believes this???

I say sad but funny too.

Yeah, more like "it's news for people that think they think, but really don't."

Unprecedented hypocrisy from the fools at Fox?

Dunno about that "unprecedented" part.

Joey Goeballs, Pravda back before the collapse of the Societ Union or even current modern day Chinese state propaganda are all precedents for wot Faux Noiz does.

Be Well.

Fox News operates under the principle that yesterday's unprecedented hypocrisy is tomorrow's record to be broken.

Bill O'Riley has certainly praised the Obama which is more then I can say for how the NY Times treated Bush.


well except for aiding and abetting the bush administrations drive to a illegitimate war.

The NBC Real Life West Wing was a real coup for a press secretary who realizes that you can't buy publicity like that. I do think that if they had something to to tweak Obama over, they'd do it. herm

Face it.. all of you clowns watch fox.. the reason.. better news coverage than anyone else..

You gotta be kidding me. Fox News is unwatchable. Their coverage is shrill, they've filled the air with himbos and bimbos who don't know what they're talking about, and they're obsessed with local crimes they can turn into national stories. I don't watch Fox, and every time I see it in a restaurant or store here in Florida, I'm reminded why.

I am at the point where I only watch Fox news. I am not interested in any news organization that seems to side with a political party and chooses what stories to report on as long as they agree with the political agenda being pushed. Don't get we wrong, Fox certainly is a right leaning news organization..............

#22 | Posted by SlowSVT at 2009-06-20 03:51 PM | Reply | Flag:


You don't want news, you want editorials.

I love this part:

"I am not interested in any news organization that seems to side with a political party and chooses what stories to report on"....."

.....and the you claim you only watch FUX News?

HELLO...McFLY!!!!!



That's really funny. Sometimes I think the TV news media is born anew every morning, with no knowledge at all of anything that came before.

#8 | POSTED BY RCADE

RCADE, maybe they've adjusted program/subject duration to compensate for the average American's inability to focus their attention on any matter for longer than a day.

This from the network who relentlessly pushed every Bush policy from Iraq to Social Security privatization to deregulation of everything in sight.

Some of us can remember when the Bushies paid a FOX pundit a quarter of a million bucks to push their education reform agenda aka All Children Left Behind

And the time the Bush himself invited the FOX and other right wing tools to the White House to tell them that they needed to get out there and trash all those nasty Democrats so that with an election coming up people wouldn't focus on all the disasters the Bushies had saddled us with.

Fox News didn't report on the Tea Bagging Parties, they cheerleaded them, became part of them to promote the warped agend of Roger Ailes.

If Fox News Channel spent as much time actually reporting the news as they do repeating RNC talking points, then it might actually be considered a true "news" source.

Every media outlet is in the can for somebody. That's why I call it the "instructions" rather than the "news."

I like when you dopes call it "FAUX" news...its still clever.

Every media outlet is in the can for somebody. That's why I call it the "instructions" rather than the "news."

#46 | Posted by Diablo at 2009-06-21 07:20 AM

Amen(in a non religious way) to that.

Has anyone noticed that Fox is running their regular Sunday morning entertainment crap. Seriously the only news worth reporting is Iran, and Fox had a segment on making juice? WTF.

I don't mind that the libtards believe that Fox is the Republicans' media organ. What's amusing is that they get upset when you tell them that CNNABCNBCCBS are the organ-grinding monkey-boys for Obama and Company.

Well, we get what we pay for. So far, $2 trillion in five months, with more to go. Hope none of you needed the money. Or your kids.

I wouldn't say it is "unprecedented" ... plenty of fingers to point to previous acts of other networks along the same vein....

Because it was done before and was wrong, does it mean it is ok to do it again?

Grow up.

Two wrongs do not make a right people.

Hey, what gives? It's one LITTLE news network! What's the problem, really? You've got the White House, the House, AND the Senate! Still can't get anything done RIGHT? Not my fault! You elected IT! They don't want to play along to your tunes? My BAD! Try again in two years!

Remember, you've got ALL THE major NETWORKS and MSNBC, plus the Cartoon channel!

Besides that O'reilly, Hannity, AND Colmes are Commentaators - NOT News-men! There is a difference, believe me! Hemmer, Blair, Cavuto, and Sheppard plus the SIXTY second GIRLS are the News hogs!

Don't worry tho, in 2011 you WILL have a lot to bitch about!

Hey, Bushlover 2, since you can't spell, don't understand capitalization, and don't understand contractions, why don't you take some remedial English courses, and return when your senseless kool-aid rantings will have the merit of being correct in style, if not in content.

#19 | Posted by Gabe at 2009


uh...why dont you kiss my ass.

and why is obama so scared, worried, interested, or wary of fox..I mean its all he talks about and why??

easy
a narcisist will go after what is virtually the ONLY news group who will attack his issues while the others are little more than puppets.


and isnt it 'funny' that its the network of MICKY MOUSE who is doing the infomercial this week...

AND this morning george will had a great line

in history there are three great love affairs

abelard and eloise
romeo and juliet
and obama and the media

I'd rather lick a toilet seat at the bus depot than watch a single minute of FOX "coverage"

If you cant call your Competition Political hacks while having done the exact same thing when your guys where in power you have no buisness being in news in america any more.. It about Business not about truth, If you watch or listen to any of them and take it as the word of god you deserve to be lied to

I'd rather lick a toilet seat at the bus depot than watch a single minute of FOX "coverage"

To each his own, bro'. All the more power to ya'!

Sure, it's definitely a bit hypocritical to not even mention their exclusive they had. If you're really looking for hypocritical, there are plenty of better examples than this.... You recall how all the pundits are ad nauseum complaining how they're such victims of the Left on linking them to extremist violent incidents? Well, they (specifically, Glenn Beck) did the exact same thing in reference to Truthers and use to regularly do the same to Ron Paul before he because so 'faddish'. It doesn't matter one iota if these Truthers are correct or not, the hypocrisy is just as aggregious. This doesn't even take into account that certain 'arguments' they make are becoming more and more mainstream, but they will still do their best to marginalize the movement. Why? It should be obvious. The network has so much invested into GW's whole 'Terrorism' mantra, that it is impossible (would it upset the Conservative base so badly they'd jump?) to turn back no matter how much evidence piles up in contradiction. I'm positive the anchors are smart enough to have seen all the stories they don't bother with (i.e. nano-thermite, 1000's of Architects & Engineers) have done their own research on the issues, but either are not allowed to voice certain things by the big-business Corporatist boss himself or are too stubborn and scared-sick of the potential loss of ratings that the truth would bring.

One more example: Do you all remember the Georgia conflict? Remember how they were interviewing the young SF girl who was caught there with her family during the conflict? Remember how she explicitly recalled how the Georgians were the aggressors. Foxnews basically cut off the viewpoint and never mentioned it again. Look up any non-US source of that story. Contrary to the McCain, Obama and other politicians who voiced their opinion against Russia, other sites reported the true story of the Georgian aggression. To report the truth, American would have found out a lot of our dirty little secrets!!!

Because it was done before and was wrong, does it mean it is ok to do it again?

Grow up.

Two wrongs do not make a right people.

#51 | Posted by chickenrancher at 2009-06-21 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag:


YEAH!

The way you rallied against it happening the first time was just great!

Oh.......wait.......you didn't do that all.

nevermind.

Hannity and Limbaugh are idiots ...Real conservatives like Goldwater, Buckley or even buchanan would never have said they wanted the newly elected president to fail. I like O'Reilly and Dennis Miller they publicly have stated they don't want Obama to fail yet they don't treat him like a messiah like BSNBC. I want univeral/national health care ...The majority of individual bankruptcy s in this country are because of drowning medical bills. you shouldn't lose your home because you got hit by a car while illegals and prisoners get free healthcare.
2 cents
Darkstar

BTW I'm a republican that voted for Obama and I am still with him so far.
peace
Darkstar

"I don't mind that the libtards believe that Fox is the Republicans' media organ. What's amusing is that they get upset when you tell them that CNNABCNBCCBS are the organ-grinding monkey-boys for Obama and Company."

A fifty cent post? Or do you get $1.00???

FOX News smokes the rest of the cable news networks combined every night from 5:00pm to 10:00pm.

Every night! And their base is growing rapidly.

O'Reilly had 3.2 Million viewers on Thursday.
Hannity had 2.6 Million viewers on Thursday.

fox is the only a small voice on the other side, after being bombarded by liberal media from hundreds of stations, at least you get one that gives you the other view point.

I dont care if they did, fact is, its 100 to 1, fox is the only one showing the other side, and they still get more viewers than most of the top 3, why, cause the top 3 abc, nbc, cbs are nothing more than lies and 1/2 truths, sad but funny how the liberals will scream at fox for this, yet the big 3 can do anything and you barely hear about it. unless you watch fox.

Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennett and Harris would be so proud that you swallow everything they feed you. All proponents of "The New Atheism's" basic approach:

1. An unprecedented boldness (a.k.a., in your face)
2. A clear and specific rejection of the Christian God of the Bible
3. An explicit rejection of Jesus Christ
4. A specific grounding in scientific argument (your precious modernism and evolution)
5. A refusal to tolerate moderate and liberal forms of belief
6. An attack on toleration (yet it is the theist who often is labeled intolerant)
7. A questioning of the rights of parents to inculcate belief in their children
8. The claim that religion itself must be eliminated in order to preserve human freedom

Although you don't hit all of them all of the time, the pattern is there.

Of course, the "new" atheism is as morally bankrupt and personally damning as the old.

Wait and see.

#29 | Posted by MACV1972 at 2009-06-20 05:57 PM | Reply |

errr, OK. But I wasn't even remotely suggesting this was about religion. I take it you fundies are a little thin-skinned these days?

I may be wrong but wouldn't this ABC move be unprecedented?

#33 | Posted by OohRah

amazing! didn't you even watch the video!

nice link Sanant. Hilarious to see the juxtaposition of Faux Outrage and funny to see the usual creepy defenders here on DR of Faux News.

thanks fer the chuckles!

utter nonsense...

#5 | Posted by afkabl2

Finally some truth from you.

afkabl2,

do you run all your comments through some sort of retardation filter/processor before posting them? i've never seen such a precision blend of misspellings, bad grammar, and pointlessness. i'd love to know where i can download it. would you mind passing along the link? see, i'd really love to go head to head with you on any number of issues, but we'd need to level the playing field first.

"afkabl2, do you run all your comments through some sort of retardation filter/processor before posting them?"

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OMYGAWD. GOTA.GOTTA REmember...whuzzat?!?!? no rEally . whoooooooSH!
~AflaKaBIBBLeBABBleBlUBBEr

#70 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

FF

FF #70

Say Doc, I'm pleased to see that you're improving your repertoire for your minstrel act. When are you going on the road? It's sort of "white rap." Why don't you give us a preview, link to a picture of yourself in your vertically striped suit twirling your cane.

Just one question, Doc. Why are you giving creative credit for the product of your mind to others? Don't be so shy and humble. Claim credit for your work as credit is due you.

Fox is hypocritical? Old news.

It is always humorous when the partisans come out and defend behavior they do, because others did something similar! This identifies them as having petty criminal type minds, sociopathic, in claiming that two wrongs make it right ... creeps.

Besides all that, Fox did not deny opposing views and, or advertising; in order to present only one view by a television broadcast organization - a clear violation of FCC requirements.

If Fox had so planned to break Federal law, they would no longer have their license. Well see how this administration, and in-the-pocket congress do to change ABC's mind about advertising, at least ...

... nothing is my guess for this already criminal administration, spending trillions without any result or oversight!

The Chicago type political mob is in control of the nation ...

Johnson are you really that dumb?


FF for #70!

I'd rather lick a toilet seat at the bus depot than watch a single minute of FOX "coverage"

#56 | POSTED BY VINDICATOR AT 2009-06-21 05:21 PM | REPLY | FLAG

now, now, remember.. the court order clearly prohibits you from being within 100 yards of any bus depot.

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