I heard an interesting comment on the drive home yesterday about why Cons are so up in arms about this. Don Imus worked for the same company and was fired for making a joke about some girls, so why isn't Letterman in any real trouble? They seem to think the race of the girls involved might have something to do with it.

Letterman shouldn't be in trouble, and Imus shouldn't have been fired, I just thought it was an interesting point.

I wonder if Letterman hates Jews?

They only reason that dick apologized is due to advertizers dropping and a protest scheduled during Fridays taping.

If Palin is the Christian that she claims to be,
isn't she compelled to forgive Letterman? Or is
Sarah a CINO-Christian in Name Only?

If Palin is the Christian that she claims to be,
isn't she compelled to forgive Letterman? Or is
Sarah a CINO-Christian in Name Only?

#4 | Posted by tiger150
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Only when a sincere apology is offered. The first apology was lame. He used that apology in the context of a joke. Then again, in the first apology, he didn't see the wrongness of what he said.

This time, he realized how bad what he said was and I heard Sarah Palin forgave him. However, most of the ladies that want his ass fired aren't impressed it took him this long to officially apologize. It never was a case of Sarah sicking anyone on Letterman.

Most of the ladies that are protesting Letterman aren't exactly Sarah Palin fans but are mothers who are pissed that a dirty old man would joke about a 14 y/o girl getting knocked up by A-Rod.

Lonnie

Good God, get over it already. It was a bad joke that was mis-interpreted to be an even worse joke. He's appologized multiple times. Can we move beyond the feigned indignancy and faux outrage already? What is with Republicans' and this victomization complex?

Now we know why Johnny Carson choose Leno for the Tonight Show. Letterman has zero class.

Much ado about...not much.

They only reason that dick apologized is due to advertizers dropping and a protest scheduled during Fridays taping.

Sheesh. He apologized three hours after the Palin family first objected and now has apologized again. This is ridiculous. You'd think the Republicans had better things to do these days than wage war on late-night comedians. Sarah Palin is like those reality TV stars Spencer and Heidi -- anything to keep your name in the media.

As for the apology itself, he didn't need to offer it. It was a joke! He is a comedian! People who have such delicate sensibilities they can't bear to hear jokes should avoid watching comedians.

"Now we know why Johnny Carson choose Leno for the Tonight Show. Letterman has zero class.
#7 | Posted by aclusux "

Gov. Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. And you thought John Edwards was in trouble before! Now he has really done it. -- "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno," 9/2/08

I can't tell if Palin is brilliant or really stupid. We may have another Bush on our hands here.
May God have mercy on us all.

Letterman did the right thing. The joke was out of line. Now it's time to move the hell on.

Sheesh. He apologized three hours after the Palin family first objected and now has apologized again.
Posted by rcade

LOL...Sure. That first apology was straight from the heart.

You'd think the Republicans had better things to do these days than wage war on late-night comedians.
#9 | Posted by rcade

What could possibly make anyone think something like that?

I can't tell if Palin is brilliant or really stupid.

I'll go with stupid. actually I hope she keeps it up and thus, forcing the GOP to get rid of her eventually.

She has no business being in the position that she was/is.

LOL...Sure. That first apology was straight from the heart.

How do you know what's in his heart, Wisgod? People are so invested in hating Letterman over this it doesn't matter what he does or says.

Only when a sincere apology is offered. The first apology was lame. He used that apology in the context of a joke. Then again, in the first apology, he didn't see the wrongness of what he said.

Jesus Christ...what do you want him to do? Fingerbang Sarah and blow Todd? He said he was sorry...twice. Get over it already.

For a bunch of torture loving freaks, you sure are a sensitive lot.

You'd think Embassy Suites had better things to do than pull their advertizing from CBS these days over a funny joke like this.

Letterman is just another typical left wing pedofile pervert joking about the rape of Palin's 14 year old daughter. Libs love that kind of humour because it mirrors their real lives. If Letterman made some jokes about Tiller the Baby Killer sucking brains from babies libs would be laughing their ass off.

Libs love that kind of humour because it mirrors their real lives.
#19 | Posted by fwthom | Flag: Gee, Wish I Could Fuck A 14-Year-Old Anything

Sure, she's moved on but what happened is a bunch of liberal/conservative women got pissed and want him fired. You can't just blame it on Conservatives. If a Conservative had said the same joke about Obama's kids, you guys would be out in full force saying how that joke was unacceptable. The fact that it happened to Sarah Palin, makes it acceptable to you guys.

Lonnie

How do you know what's in his heart, Wisgod?
Posted by rcade

I assume you saw the first apology. Are you claiming that was sincere or an apology?

Letterman is just another typical left wing pedofile pervert joking about the rape of Palin's 14 year old daughter. Libs love that kind of humour because it mirrors their real lives. If Letterman made some jokes about Tiller the Baby Killer sucking brains from babies libs would be laughing their ass off.

Yeah, I know...if the rape were in one of John Yee's torture memos, that's when you get out the Lubraderm and the fresh towels.

"As for the apology itself, he didn't need to offer it. It was a joke! He is a comedian! People who have such delicate sensibilities they can't bear to hear jokes should avoid watching comedians.

#9 | POSTED BY RCADE "

Just out of sheer curiosity, did you feel the same about Don Imus' joke and the Rutgers girls' reactions?

If a Conservative had said the same joke about Obama's kids, you guys would be out in full force saying how that joke was unacceptable. The fact that it happened to Sarah Palin, makes it acceptable to you guys.

Lonnie

#21 | Posted by lwalk17

When this originally happened many, if not most of the serious liberal posters here agreed it was crass and over the line.

But you and the Palins seem to want to keep milking it for as long as possible. So it seems to me that it is the right that has taken this and worked it for political gain.

Sheesh. He apologized three hours after the Palin family first objected and now has apologized again.

He apologized that the joke was "misunderstood", not for telling the joke about a girl getting raped.

Rcade - what happended to my Barney Frank thread? It was just a joke ya know!

Yes, I believe the first apology was a sincere apology. Like Leno and other comedians, he was telling a joke about Bristol Palin and [insert pervy public figure here].

With all of this brouhaha, the Palin crowd has probably scared late-night comedians away from Bristol Palin jokes. I think that may be the first victory for social conservatives all year. Savor this moment of triumph!

With all of this brouhaha, the Palin crowd has probably scared late-night comedians away from Bristol Palin jokes.
Posted by rcade

Or at least put the writers on notice to make sure that Bristol is involved before making an ass out of the host.

So it seems to me that it is the right that has taken this and worked it for political gain.

#25 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-06-16 09:28 AM | Reply

I don't agree with making a big deal of this, but let's not pretend that this isn't right out of the Liberal Dem playbook.
You guys are the champs of making the dumbest joke/comment in to a controversy. The media willingly goes along.

As for the article itself, how in the fuck does Letterman expect anyone to believe he checked to be sure the Plain kid was 18 before making his comment when he has in the past cracked on her and specifically mentioned she was 17? Why would he say he checked when he didn't care about it before?

Just out of sheer curiosity, did you feel the same about Don Imus' joke and the Rutgers girls' reactions?

Or Rush Limbaugh's joke about Chelsea Clinton.

In the perverted minds of liberals it is OK to make jokes about the rape of 18 year old girls but not 14 year olds as long as it's done for political expediancy.

Just out of sheer curiosity, did you feel the same about Don Imus' joke and the Rutgers girls' reactions?

As I recall, I thought the comments were offensive but the reaction -- boycotts, his firing, all the black leaders lining up to take public offense -- was overkill. If people didn't like Imus or any other shock jock or talk radio host, the solution is to listen to something else.

Imus had such a long history of racially crass remarks that it was viewed differently than Letterman telling one joke among many in his nightly monologue.

Finally, now the economy can start to recover.

"As I recall, I thought the comments were offensive but the reaction -- boycotts, his firing, all the black leaders lining up to take public offense -- was overkill. If people didn't like Imus or any other shock jock or talk radio host, the solution is to listen to something else.
Imus had such a long history of racially crass remarks that it was viewed differently than Letterman telling one joke among many in his nightly monologue.

#32 | POSTED BY RCADE "

Cool. I think this whole thing is silly, but just interesting to see the juxtaposition of the two sides of the aisle when you look at Imus' incident. Then the Right was clamoring about how it was just a joke, while the Left blew it far out of proportion.

Just read an article that Palin accepted the apology, but in a way that still slammed Letterman. She needs to go away.

If Palin is the Christian that she claims to be,
isn't she compelled to forgive Letterman? Or is
Sarah a CINO-Christian in Name Only?

#4 | Posted by tiger150

LOL!!!

Nice try slimeball.

Where does it say that Christains aren't allowed to talk about evil?

How do you know she didn't forgive him?

Let be crystal clear here:

THE JOKE WAS NOT ABOUT RAPE AT ALL

Get it you idiots?

Let be crystal clear here:

THE JOKE WAS NOT ABOUT RAPE AT ALL

Get it you idiots?

#36 | Posted by Salaryman

What is the age of consent in your state?

OK it has been well established that the joke was about the older daughter. So enough with the half truths and lies by omission.

Gov. Sarah Palin released a statement accepting television host David Letterman's apology for what he called a "bad joke" about Palin's teenage daughter.

"Of course it's accepted on behalf of young women, like my daughters, who hope men who 'joke' about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve," the statement read.

"Letterman certainly has the right to 'joke' about whatever he wants to, and thankfully we have the right to express our reaction.

So enough, already.

No matter how many times Letterman apologizes Sarah Palin will still be an attention seeking politician who does not know enough about issues for anyone to ever consider her a presidential candidate. Go home Sarah, do your job.

I like Palin's use of scare quotes around the word joke. She is a "genius".

So enough, already.

#39 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue
Palin and Letterman do not want to drop it - face time for both. Letterman's ratings were way up and Palin keeps herself in the spotlight - good or bad.

You are correct though - the issue is resolved and both should move on. Can't believe I agree with SanAn.

If Palin is the Christian that she claims to be,
isn't she compelled to forgive Letterman?
......#4 | Posted by tiger150

......sure......

.....the same way Bristol practices abstinence....

.....the same way Bristol practices abstinence....

With a bottle of Boone's Farm and a Newport 100?

-You'd think the Republicans had better things to do these days than wage war on late-night comedians

They have finally found a level at which they can compete.

But you and the Palins seem to want to keep milking it for as long as possible. So it seems to me that it is the right that has taken this and worked it for political gain.

#25 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue
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I want a link that shows where I won't let it go. I explained what happened and how it's not the Palin's pushing for Letterman to be fired. It was the national women's public policy group that jumped on board of this crazy train.

What in the hell? Political gain? This isn't political it's the story of a dirty old man advocating statutory rape. Where is the fucking politics? Oh just because Sarah Palin is a elected official give me a fucking break. To be a political gain, Letterman would have to be a politician which he clearly isn't!

Lonnie

No matter how many times Letterman apologizes Sarah Palin will still be an attention seeking politician who does not know enough about issues for anyone to ever consider her a presidential candidate. Go home Sarah, do your job.

So you blame Palin for the moronic comment by Letterman? Seems like you and most here are upset Palin turned this around and made him look like an idiot. As well as those who defend Letterman.

I want a link that shows where I won't let it go.

#46 | Posted by lwalk17

Well, here you go...

#46 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-06-16 10:23 AM

Its over. Letterman made a tasteless joke, people complained, he apologized, Palin accepted.

Let it go, Lonnie.

this is almost as stupid as obama focusing in on another entertainer, rush, and all the spewing hatred from the far left...

OK it has been well established that the joke was about the older daughter. So enough with the half truths and lies by omission.

#38 | Posted by Salaryman at
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Really? Her 18 y/o wasn't at the game so how is it this is so fucking well established? Letterman didn't make his point clear which daughter so we have to go with the daughter who accompanied her to the game and that was the 14 y/o. Anybody can come back later and say well I meant this daughter.

Lonnie

Sheesh. He apologized three hours after the Palin family first objected and now has apologized again.
Posted by rcade

Funny another link on this site refers to a county level politician making a joke about the first lady and being a descendant of a gorilla. The libs are going crazy over it...but a reference about a 14 year old getting knocked up at a base ball game on national TV is Sheesh....

The double standard is in play.

Its over. Letterman made a tasteless joke, people complained, he apologized, Palin accepted.

It wasn't a tasteless joke. Palin made a brilliant maneuver and made Letterman look like a fool. Why else would he apologize? Had her older daughter been at the game instead of the minor, this would have been done. Give Palin credit.

No matter how many times Letterman apologizes Sarah Palin will still be an attention seeking politician who does not know enough about issues for anyone to ever consider her a presidential candidate. Go home Sarah, do your job.

#40 | Posted by danni

Danni wants negative attention to be paid to Palin. Palin won this one, Danni. "Won" is an understatement, though.

Give Palin credit.

#52 | Posted by crispee_oc

What? They can't give Palin credit. They would need to realize that what they've been saying about Palin since the campaign was all made up by the Press. You are asking way too much from this group. They are not mature enough to admit their mistake.

Anybody can come back later and say well I meant this daughter.

Lonnie

#50 | Posted by lwalk17

Letterman even did this. What a coward!

They are not mature enough to admit their mistake.
#54 | Posted by Eddie|Flag: Eddie, What's Socialism?

"Danni wants negative attention to be paid to Palin. Palin won this one, Danni."

OK, what did she win???
If she wants to "win" then she needs to be engaged in a political race. As I recall she lost the last one she was in. Probably has a lot to do with her desire to drag this out....Letterman was not especially helpful to the McCain/Palin campaign.
This won't change anything for Palin, America has decided..she is not presidential material.

Its over. Letterman made a tasteless joke, people complained, he apologized, Palin accepted.

It wasn't a tasteless joke. Palin made a brilliant maneuver and made Letterman look like a fool. Why else would he apologize? Had her older daughter been at the game instead of the minor, this would have been done. Give Palin credit.

#52 | Posted by crispee_oc
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Oh so your saying that Letterman told Sarah, in advance, he was going to do the joke so she purposefully left the 18 y/o somewhere else? Do you actually believe your own bullshit?

Lonnie

If Letterman were running for office this would matter. Last I checked he isn't.

If Letterman were running for office this would matter. Last I checked he isn't.

#59 | Posted by danni

Letterman is running for the same office that Don Imus was running for.

How would the libs react if Letterman said "Barney Frank attended the Yankee's game. During batting practice he was spotted in the dugout trying to shove Jeters 33 inch bat up his ass, but the pine tar on the bat made it tough."

I don't think Letterman should have apologized for his joke. But if he's going to, the least he could do is stop insulting everyone's intelligence by pretending he was referring to the older daughter who was not the one in New York. I'd rather see him not apologize at all than try to lie his way out of giving a real one.

If Letterman were running for office this would matter. Last I checked he isn't.

#59 | Posted by danni

Either is Palin. She's in Office. And your side can't stand that fact, nor leave her or her family alone.

I saw Letterman's first attempt at an apology. IMHO, it wasn't an apology; it was an attempt at humor that fell short. However, I've never thought that much of the hot air that exits Letterman's mouth can be classified as humor. I think he's a narcissist. He's most certainly a pompous ass. Normally, I don't watch his program but I think I'm going to break that trend in order to see who sponsors it. I want to make certain that I don't purchase goods and/or services from his list of sponsors.

Do you actually believe your own bullshit?

Lonnie

#58 | Posted by lwalk17

What bullshit? Palin accepted his apology and is moving on. Why can't you?

If Letterman were running for office this would matter. Last I checked he isn't.

#59 | Posted by danni

Right, because as we know politicians set the standards of class for the rest of us. If Letterman had any class the joke would not have been made. Johnny Carson would never have said this. You never knew what side Johnny was on - he made fun of both sides - in a very dignified and much more intellectual way than this graduate from Ball State.

Oh so your saying that Letterman told Sarah, in advance, he was going to do the joke so she purposefully left the 18 y/o somewhere else? Do you actually believe your own bullshit?

Could you possibly be more wrong? I was saying had her older daughter been at the game instead of the 14 year old, the joke wouldn't have given Palin anything. But since the younger daughter was there Palin turned the joke around and made Letterman look like a fool. Almost as much as you needing this explained.

Do you actually believe your own bullshit?

Lonnie

#58 | Posted by lwalk17

What bullshit? Palin accepted his apology and is moving on. Why can't you?

#64 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue
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SA you mean your not smart enough to figure out which part of that dude's post was bullshit? He said that Sarah Palin purposefully left his daughter at home so that Letterman came out looking like an idiot. That bullshit. Do try to keep up, I know it's hard because you want to tow the liberal lines.

Lonnie

Crispee_OC, if you think this joke was ok, even if it was intended for an 18 year old you are a fool. Maybe in a nightclub, but not on national TV.

Letterman crossed the line and should be punished by his management. Suspension for 1 week would be appropriate.

Right, because as we know politicians set the standards of class for the rest of us.

SA you mean your not smart enough to figure out which part of that dude's post was bullshit? He said that Sarah Palin purposefully left his daughter at home so that Letterman came out looking like an idiot.

Lonnie

#67 | Posted by lwalk17

I don't think that's what he was saying.

I think you're too worried about toeing the conservative line to even recognize someone who's on your own side.

A question here for Palin supporters: Does she ever engage the public at a level that's above this kind of stupid blown-up controversy? Has she given a single speech since losing the election that was about a substantive issue that matters?

Normally, that's the route for a presidential hopeful who plans to run in the future. They give a few important speeches, work for charities, and develop public policy groups. If they're holding office, they try to achieve significant accomplishments to burnish their record.

That's not happening with Palin. She's doing more damage to her own rep than a thousand comedians could inflict.

#71 | Posted by rcade

Deflection flag.

Could you possibly be more wrong? I was saying had her older daughter been at the game instead of the 14 year old, the joke wouldn't have given Palin anything. But since the younger daughter was there Palin turned the joke around and made Letterman look like a fool. Almost as much as you needing this explained.

#66 | Posted by crispee_oc
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We can "if" the story to death but facts are facts. Come on, stay with us the facts are that the 14 y/o was at the game the 18 y/o was somewhere else and yes Letterman came out looking like an idiot.

Lonnie

SA you mean your not smart enough to figure out which part of that dude's post was bullshit? He said that Sarah Palin purposefully left his daughter at home so that Letterman came out looking like an idiot. That bullshit. Do try to keep up, I know it's hard because you want to tow the liberal lines.

Lonnie

San appears to be up to speed. You on the other hand seem to be a few bagels short of a dozen. Have someone else else read it to you. Because so far you haven't figured it out on your own.

She's doing more damage to her own rep than a thousand comedians could inflict.

#71 | Posted by rcade

Hell, without her, what would we have to talk about? Community Organizing?

#67 | Posted by lwalk17

I don't think that's what he was saying.

I think you're too worried about toeing the conservative line to even recognize someone who's on your own side.

#70 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue
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No but I think if Don Imus can make a idiotic statement and get his ass fired then so can Letterman. I think you guys would write letterman a pass on any inappropriate jokes he made on national tv.

I think it's sad how the media left Obama's family alone because the messiah said so but then they made a B-line for Sarah Palin. It shows the hypocrisy of the left.

Lonnie

Crispee_OC, if you think this joke was ok, even if it was intended for an 18 year old you are a fool. Maybe in a nightclub, but not on national TV.

Slick, Your #60 post cracked me up and sickened me at the same time. A comedian saying A Rod was hitting the adult daughter of a politican is not that offensive. Had the Hildabeast been at the game with Chelsea and Letterman said A Rod was boinking her in the dugout.... It was just another late night joke.

"Has she given a single speech since losing the election that was about a substantive issue that matters?"

Yes.

If Letterman were running for office this would matter. Last I checked he isn't.

#59 | Posted by danni

Oh! But some unknown person making a comment about M. Obama is?

Danni, you're a hypocrit!

Has she given a single speech since losing the election that was about a substantive issue that matters?

#71 | Posted by rcade

YES! You are not paying attention.

Look up "alaska" "natural gas"

MSMedia doesn't want to spend time on the responsible leaders who are looking out for the country's energy future!

San appears to be up to speed. You on the other hand seem to be a few bagels short of a dozen. Have someone else else read it to you. Because so far you haven't figured it out on your own.

#74 | Posted by crispee_oc
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Obviously, you didn't see my #73 post when you wrote this.

Lonnie

Slick, Your #60 post cracked me up and sickened me at the same time.

Of course it did. Shows you to be a victim of the f'd up post modern 'wisdom'.

You suffer from a serious case of 'double standards'.

Obviously, you didn't see my #73 post when you wrote this.

Lonnie

What about post #66? Which you missed and posted #67?

Obviously, you didn't see my #73 post when you wrote this.

Lonnie

#81 | Posted by lwalk17

Still without a clue.

To rephrase an old phrase "What is good for the goose is good for the gorilla".

Of course it did. Shows you to be a victim of the f'd up post modern 'wisdom'.

You suffer from a serious case of 'double standards'.

The reference to Barney Frank made me crack up. Like Lettermnan's joke, you are taking it way beyond the scope. Post modern wisdom? Double standards? I didn't play the homo card.

why do you think there is a difference in the 'homo' card and the 'young girl knocked up' card? If you think there is, you suffer from post modern rationalization.

Lonnie

What about post #66? Which you missed and posted #67?

#83 | Posted by crispee_oc
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I'll admit I misinterpreted it which reaches no shit sherlock point when you wrote #66. However, I didn't have #66 when I said something to SA.

Lonnie

Maybe in a nightclub, but not on national TV.

...at 1135 at night. If that joke is too much for you to handle, you are way past your bedtime.

I'm trying to decide which is the most pathetic...

a) Letterman's unfunny joke,
b) the grievous wound said joke caused to Sarah!
or
c) Letterman's disgusting groveling

Boy, those advertisers must have LetterPerson by the balls. What kind of comedian - if he can indeed still be considered one - apologizes for their jokes!!?? What a hack!

And, if Sarah! can't handle a few crappy jokes aimed at her by those big, bad latenight variety show hosts, how the hell was she going to deal with foreign leaders who genuinely hate her and America?

Letterman ought to retire, and Sarah! ought to go back to what she knows best - cooking up a big batch of meth while failing out of yet another college.

Maybe in a nightclub, but not on national TV.

...at 1135 at night. If that joke is too much for you to handle, you are way past your bedtime.

#89 | Posted by IraqiBukkake
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Obviously, you've never heard of time zones. What starts at 1135 on the east coast is on earlier than the evening in the other time zones in the US.

Lonnie

Obviously, you've never heard of time zones. What starts at 1135 on the east coast is on earlier than the evening in the other time zones in the US.

Lonnie

#91 | Posted by lwalk17

Yes. 10:35 pm Central and Mountain

And, if Sarah! can't handle a few crappy jokes aimed at her by those big...

Olly come to earth. The joke was not about Palin, it was about her 14 year old daughter getting knocked up at a baseball game.

With all of this brouhaha, the Palin crowd has probably scared late-night comedians away from Bristol Palin jokes. I think that may be the first victory for social conservatives all year. Savor this moment of triumph! -- #27 | Posted by rcade

Right, Rogers. Social conservatives like the National Organization for Women.

The sexualization of girls and women in the media is reaching new lows these days -- it is exploitative and has a negative effect on how all women and girls are perceived and how they view themselves. Letterman also joked about what he called Palin's "slutty flight attendant look" -- yet another example of how the media love to focus on a woman politician's appearance, especially as it relates to her sexual appeal to men.

Forget it Phoenix, if they didn't understand me saying that there were femmanazi's involved in this, there's no chance of them understanding what your saying.

Lonnie

Olly come to earth. The joke was not about Palin, it was about her 14 year old daughter getting knocked up at a baseball game.

That wasn't the joke. It may have been lazy or sloppy by Letterman's staff though.

Olly come to earth. The joke was not about Palin, it was about her 14 year old daughter getting knocked up at a baseball game.

That wasn't the joke. It may have been lazy or sloppy by Letterman's staff though.

#97 | Posted by crispee_oc
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Oh enlighten us then what the joke was then. Of course we should be wary of Letterman's followup after the femmanazi's started complaining, that he meant the 18 y/o. But please, go ahead. If he'd meant to be perfectly clear he would have done so well before the media storm.

Lonnie

doesnt matter at all.
it didnt matter that ismus busted his ass and more.
fire the unfunny asshole...that is iF moonves has the balls and the integrity.

Oh enlighten us then what the joke was then. Of course we should be wary of Letterman's followup after the femmanazi's started complaining, that he meant the 18 y/o.

Was her 14 year old daughter ever in the fucking news? Was she knocked up and accused of being the mother of Sarah's son? Was she ever the butt of jokes? Why would Letterman bring up her 14 year old daughter? Instead of the daughter ripped apart the last year or so? As you put it... Do you really believe your own bullshit?

If he'd meant to be perfectly clear he would have done so well before the media storm.

He apologized three hours after the Palins objected.

Right, Rogers. Social conservatives like the National Organization for Women.

I'm aware that some women's groups on the left are now lining up behind the Palins in the war against late-night comedy. But they're Joanie-come-latelys. Without the sustained outrage campaign of the Palin crowd this would already be forgotten.

He apologized three hours after the Palins objected. -- #101 | Posted by rcade

Did you watch the video? He didn't apologize. He issued a denial. From that right-wing rag, the Washington Post:

Better questions for you are:

Was her 18 year old daughter at the fucking game? No she wasn't. I think Letterman thought his joke was funny until he was in the middle of a media firestorm. In his haste to get off the liberal women's hitlist came back after the joke was told and said he meant the other daughter.

Yes she was in the news. The 14 y/o was present at the GOP convention. Many news organization acknowledged it. No, she wasn't included in previous jokes however, she doesn't have to be. Yes I believe that Letterman attempted to set the record straight however, it doesn't really matter because that liberal femmenazi group is going to rip him to shreds over his poor joke telling. Even if it was the 18 y/o he was talking about.

Obviously, you believe your own bullshit because I've said several times that the ladies going after him are the National Women's Group. Not exactly a conservative group. However, that point is lost on 99.9% of the liberals here. There are 0 conservative republicans in that group.

Lonnie

So why can't David Letterman bring himself to apologize?...

Follow Obama and go back to lipsticks on a pig...

Did you watch the video? He didn't apologize. He issued a denial.

#103 | Posted by Phoenix

This thread isn't referring to his original apology. Read the article on his second apology.

"I told a bad joke. ... It's not your fault that it was misunderstood," he told his audience. "It's my fault. ... So I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the Governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I'm sorry about it and I'll try to do better in the future. Thank you very much."

So when's he gonna apologzie? Huh? Huh? Hummahummahumma?
~Tightie Righties

Obviously, you believe your own bullshit because I've said several times that the ladies going after him are the National Women's Group. Not exactly a conservative group. However, that point is lost on 99.9% of the liberals here. There are 0 conservative republicans in that group.

What bullshit is that Lonnie? What ignorant assumption are you throwing out? You have already proven your accuracy earlier. Please explain my position on this. What do womens goups have to do with you claiming Letterman went after her 14 y/o daughter? When 99% of the real world know he was referring to the 18 y/o.

This thread isn't referring to his original apology. Read the article on his second apology. -- #106 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Rogers referred to the apology "three hours after" Letterman's original joke. Go back and read my #103.

he would have been better off to just look into the camera..say IM sorry if I offended anyone and leave it at that..
buy again...an apology didnt help imus and any other number of others who screwed up like this, so what makes him different.
he has just become another carlin (at the end)...not funny and a bitter old man

"three hours after" Letterman's original joke.

Make that three hours after the Palins objected. In other words, Rogers was using the word "apology" to refer to Letterman's original denial.

he would have been better off to just look into the camera..say IM sorry if I offended anyone and leave it at that..

He should have blamed his staff for not knowing the 18 y/o wasn't at the game. Before giving him the joke to read on the air. Other than Lonnie, nobody thinks Letterman would have used that joke had he known.

I forgive you.

Make that three hours after the Palins objected. In other words, Rogers was using the word "apology" to refer to Letterman's original denial.

#112 | Posted by Phoenix

He also considers it a "sincere apology".

Phoenix: Letterman also said originally, "Am I guilty of poor taste? Yes." That should have been enough of an apology for a joke during a late-night monologue, but the Serious Police are now out in force.

"It's not your fault that it was misunderstood," he told his audience. "It's my fault. ... So I would like to apologize..." -- #107 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Good, very good SA, you're showing you know what an apology looks like.

Next lesson: for credibility's sake, offer them before you've lost ad revenue for being a jackass and thumbing your nose at anyone who thought you should apologize.

Letterman should have destroyed the Palin family. She might be our next president if we don't finish her off soon.

Letterman also said originally, "Am I guilty of poor taste? Yes." That should have been enough of an apology....#116 | Posted by rcade

Admitting guilt and apologizing are not the same thing. "Yeah, I did it; get over it!"

someone on fox and freinds had a good idea for palin

GO ON CONAN and talk about it....
talk about beating letterman THAT night....

or better yet...go on kimmel

Well, it beats hell out of actually talking about issues and being taken seriously by anyone not hobbling along the fringe of the political community. By the way, do you prefer Pinot Noir or Pinot Grigio during summer? Just curious, but you seem like quite a whiner.

What bullshit is that Lonnie? What ignorant assumption are you throwing out? You have already proven your accuracy earlier. Please explain my position on this. What do womens goups have to do with you claiming Letterman went after her 14 y/o daughter? When 99% of the real world know he was referring to the 18 y/o.

#109 | Posted by crispee_oc
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Ok, let's say your point is accurate. Let's just say that. Now the reality is that that woman's group doesn't give one shit if that's accurate or not. They are the ones stirring the pot not I.

The reality of your comments rests on assumptions not facts. Let's go through these facts logically.

Who all was at the game? Palin's 14 y/o and A-Rod.

Could A-rod knock up the 18 y/o who wasn't at the game? No. Distance wise impossible and still be able to play in the game.

99% is a over statement when there are a lot of angry people over this issue so I hardly doubt that 99% agree with you. Your just pushing your politically incorrect hackery on the rest of us.

Lonnie

he would have been better off to just look into the camera..say IM sorry if I offended anyone and leave it at that.. -- #111 | Posted by afkabl2

I'm starting to believe you really do get lucky at the library.

"Letterman should have destroyed the Palin family. She might be our next president if we don't finish her off soon.

#118 | Posted by rastaninja"

I think we can all agree that she is a very serious contender who would present a very serious challenge to the Dems. I really think the GOP needs to do everything it can to promote her, in hopes she will be the candidate.

Admitting guilt and apologizing are not the same thing. "Yeah, I did it; get over it!"

In a situation like this no apology is ever good enough for the people taking offense.

He should have blamed his staff for not knowing the 18 y/o wasn't at the game. Before giving him the joke to read on the air. Other than Lonnie, nobody thinks Letterman would have used that joke had he known.

#113 | Posted by crispee_oc
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Actually I agree with you now. I never said he would have used the joke had he known. Obviously you didn't read any of my posts but that's fine. I agree he should have taken this step the first time and we wouldn't still be talking about it.

Lonnie

Good, very good SA, you're showing you know what an apology looks like.

#117 | Posted by Phoenix

I have no idea what you're talking about or why the sarcasm. I was simply reposting Letterman's quote.

But you and Lonnie keep on beating a dead horse for as long as you want. Its a free country.

I demand that the Palins apologize to their daughter. And apologize to Letterman for suggesting that he would like to rape their daughter. And to the trees that died to print this story in the nation's newspapers. And to the brain cells that were lost thinking about this.

#125 | Posted by rcade
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You obviously can't be serious!

Lonnie

As for the apology itself, he didn't need to offer it. It was a joke! He is a comedian! People who have such delicate sensibilities they can't bear to hear jokes should avoid watching comedians.

#9 | Posted by rcade

I once told a joke here, but you removed it. Good to see you coming to Letterman's defense...libtard!

I'm starting to believe you really do get lucky at the library.

#123 | Posted by Phoenix at 2009-06-16

what can I say

you ought to see the blonde babe sitting right next to me now...

Your just pushing your politically incorrect hackery on the rest of us.

Lonnie

What incorrect position is that? Seeing as I am to the right of David Duke. (LOL) BTW... Is is possible the Womens groups are speaking about the slutty flight attendant look? What am I saying? You think Letterman's joke was about a 14 y/o getting knocked up by A Rod.

And to the trees that died to print this story in the nation's newspapers. And to the brain cells that were lost thinking about this.

#125 | Posted by rcade at 2009-06-16 12:18

you are ALmosT RigHT..

raise your typing finger if you think its about time for this story to have run its course......

AND MAYBE then the STATE RUN MEDIA might actually even know who GERaLD WOLPIN Is....

AND MAYBE then the STATE RUN MEDIA might actually even know who GERaLD WOLPIN Is....

#132 | Posted by afkabl2

That's it Ish, stick to the script!

"you ought to see the blonde babe sitting right next to me now...

Posted by afkabl2"

She's only twelve, but she's physically mature for her age.

And to the trees that died to print this story in the nation's newspapers.

Thanks to the likes of sites like Drudge, less trees are dying.

I'm aware that some women's groups on the left are now lining up behind the Palins in the war against late-night comedy. But they're Joanie-come-latelys. Without the sustained outrage campaign of the Palin crowd this would already be forgotten.

#101 | Posted by rcade

Darn them!!!

Another member of the offended asks a good question: "So Sarah Palin, of whom I am no fan, both defended her child and made a valid societal point. Unfortunately, she didn't know when to stop..." -- #125 | Posted by rcade

Yes. That's from the article I endorsed in #102, and I still agree with it.

But you still cannot bring yourself to admit that it has taken Letterman several days and a loss of advertising revenue to issue an apology.

"you ought to see the blonde babe sitting right next to me now...

Posted by afkabl2"

Ask her if you can guess her bra size.

But you still cannot bring yourself to admit that it has taken Letterman several days and a loss of advertising revenue to issue an apology.

I guess I should apologize for that.

"you ought to see the blonde babe sitting right next to me now...

Can't find any "What does a blonde do in a library..." joke.

#135 | Posted by mOntecOre

FF!

It was a bad joke. Really bad.

You know what?

Late-night comedians make fun of public figures on a routine basis. It's a big part of their job. Sometimes they screw up. Letterman handled his screw-up poorly. Palin-ites overreacted to his bad joke. This whole thing got much bigger than it should have.

#140 | Posted by rcade

And another FF. Am out of here while still in good cheer.

What incorrect position is that? Seeing as I am to the right of David Duke. (LOL) BTW... Is is possible the Womens groups are speaking about the slutty flight attendant look? What am I saying? You think Letterman's joke was about a 14 y/o getting knocked up by A Rod.

#131 | Posted by crispee_oc
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Yeah your to the right of a racist. No, they are pissed at the comment about the 14 or 18 y/o girl. The video I saw was on "On the record" with Greta. The Woman's Group said they don't care which girl Letterman was talking about. They also didn't like the slutty flight attendant look either. Well whether or not I personally think doesn't actually matter. I don't personally watch Letterman or any TV at all. I liked your idea that he should have apologized and blamed the writers for not knowing the 18 y/o wasn't at the game. There's no place to go after such a honest apology was delivered.

Lonnie

And another FF. Am out of here while still in good cheer.

Good plan. I'm following you.

I agree with JeffJ. This shouldn't have been such a big issue but Letterman reacted poorly to defuse the situation. If you are going to apologize, do it sincerely. Don't make a joke out of it because people interpret that as insincere.

Lonnie

Ask her if you can guess her bra size.

#139 | Posted by wisgod

thats a good idea..but Im a tactile learner.. it helps me to "TOUCH" things..

AGAIN...as usual here..the whole letterman palin shit was a big thing because of the rank hypocricy of the left in these matters.....as in this and imus and remember it wasnt that long ago that jamie foxx said shit almost as bad about cyrus and he got off scott free..

Oh Jesus, here we go again! Afkbabble made a joke about touching a 12 year old's breasts. Please, Afkbabble, don't bother with trying claim that you were referring to some other, over 18 year old, woman. Just cut right to the apology. David Letterman would so advise.

Ask her if you can guess her bra size.

OH MY GOoDnesS

sorry...but you see there is a bank of computers on a normal shelv like thing and then another much higher and IM on the higher one and there is a woman on the lower one...
DAMN...that kid has to be the happiest baby in the whole room.............

HOLY COW...

Never ever should he have apologized for his joke!! Neither should Jammie Foxx. In comedy nothing is off limits, period. In talk radio, there are definite limits. This just shows further evidence of the wussification of America, as well as the single minded objective to try and remove Letterman from the air due to his ardent suport of democrats. If Palin truly had issue with these types of comments she would have gone bat shit crazy when Leno dropped this one...

"Gov. Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. And you thought John Edwards was in trouble before! Now he has really done it. -- "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno," 9/2/08"

or Conan's

"Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers' hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter's penalty box." Conan O'Brien

So we have jokes about a 40 year old knocking up a 17....illegal in most states, and another about gang banging a 17 year old, also illegal in most states. We haven't even discussed the 20+ jokes Colbert has made on topic, the 10+ John Daily has made..... And why then are all you r-tards who are calling for Letterman to be fired? Why didn't you do it back when these comments were made? Is it cuz your pussy followers, following the r-tard lady from Alaska?

LM

LM,

If you wasn't such a liberal turd flipper, you'd see that the Woman's group is a liberal group. not one conservative republican in it's membership.

Again, according to you it's ok to make such comments about a republican but I bet you'd go batshit crazy if it were directed at your messiah wouldn't you. I'm sure you'd start whining about what a racist comment that was (Only because your messiah is black).

Lonnie

I wish Sarah Palin would go on that Pervert Letterman show and bitch slap that pussy MFer.

David Letterman is a scumbag and a coward. He does not have the balls to make fun of Barack "Insane" Obama but is more than happy to keep picking on a woman like Sarah Palin and then makes sex oriented jokes about Palin's 14 year old daughter.

Letterman is an old hack who should just retire already. Could you imagine if Rush Limbaugh made sex jokes about one of the Obama kids having sex with a pro baseball player? Letterman is a piece of dogshit that should not be getting off so light.

"If you wasn't such a liberal turd flipper, you'd see that the Woman's group is a liberal group. not one conservative republican in it's membership"

What does this have to do with anything? I called out you r-tard's on the drudge and you answered appropriately. Comedians!! I didn't give a rats ass when foxworthy or rest of comedic world laid into Clinton or like they now do with Obama. Look at Bill Maher/John Stewart/Conan/Colbert, they aren't saying very kind things about Obama in some of their jokes, and they are funny! You are just a humorless sheep, incapable of discerning fact from fiction, funny from dry and on and on....take a walk!

P.S. When yo are an atheist you don't have a messiah!!
I thought a know-it-all like yo would have uderstood that.

LM

I wish Sarah Palin would go on that Pervert Letterman show and bitch slap that pussy MFer.

#153 | Posted by fwthom

She should also kick Paul Shaffer in the gina just because.

"Letterman is an old hack who should just retire already. Could you imagine if Rush Limbaugh made sex jokes about one of the Obama kids having sex with a pro baseball player? Letterman is a piece of dogshit that should not be getting off so light."

Show me where one of Obama's kids got knocked up before reaching her 17th birthday, then Limbaugh can fire out the jokes. Till then he just needs to keep hiring illegals, taking drugs and talking to janitormorons like you!Why aren't you calling for Colbert,Leno(obviously off air), Conan and the rest that made these types of jokes to resign? Why all the hate directed at Letterman? Oh yeah, you can't get his comedy, your the whitest black man in Texas!

LM

Hey Liberal Mondgrol,'

The joke was on Palin's 14 years old daughter (not Bristol) who was NOT knocked up moron!!!! And even if she was, she is minor and you would think that adult men would lay off sex jokes about minors.

I ask you again, if Rush Limbaugh made sex jokes about Obama's little girls, do you think you liberal scumbags would let it go? I bet no!

UTTERSHIT,

Flush did make jokes about a president's daughter (Amy Carter). And people still think he's an asshole for it.

People will remember letterman for being an asshole, too.

They don't remember Jimmie Carter whining about it for weeks and weeks, however.

Obama's daughers are not preaching abstinence and getting imprenated at 16. Only a fucking idiot would thinkit was about his 14 year old but given the track record of the amily it does not matter to me which aughter he was referring to. Mom already lied about te kids having sex in her house, among her many lies on topic. She has zer cred, just teaching her daughter immoral behavior....good mom. So if Obama's kids get knocked up then the jokes can start flying! Till then, answer why your not up in arms and calling for conan, colbert, kimmel and the rest of the comedians who mad similar jokes to resign along with letterman?

LM

UTAjanitor:

But it WASN'T Rush Limbaugh and it WASN"T any other political commentator. So your pathetic attempt at a corollary doesn't work here.

Axe,

When Letter made the joke about Palin and her daughter at a baseball game, Palin was with her 14 year old daughter not bristol. 14!!!!! So the sex joke was about a 14 year old having sex with a major league ball player you dumb liberal asswipe!

You libs defending demeaning sex jokes on a minor is just disgusting. You pigs would NEVER tolerate this if a conservative made jokes about Obama's little girls. You lib pukes take your political identities way to far and concentrate on the party rather than what's right. Making sex jokes about a 14 year old having sex with adults on a national tv show is just plain wrong.

LM,

Obviously if you don't know what a liberal group going after Letterman's job has to do with anything, then anything anybody else tells you is pointless. This is a liberal femmanazi group not a conservative. Hell I feel like I'm wasting my time because obviously there's no filters catching important information in your head. It's not the conservatives this time.

Yeah I know your next automatic reaction is that it's Bush's fault.

Lonnie

Lonnie

#163 | Posted by lwalk17

Good God - are you STILL pounding that drum?

Now, now, be nice, SA. It's the only drum he's got.

Sambarber,

Letterman has become a political commentator using humor. He is a leftie for sure. He STILL makes all of these Palin-W-Cheney jokes. Obama gets off with no biting jokes. Would be very interested to hear Letterman talking about the Obama girls have sex with adults but that would NEVER happen. Even Biden the humon gaffe machine does not get the biting critisism reserved for Palin. Letterman is a politcal commentator with his one-sided humor only attacking conservative voices.

Now the Letterman the pervert who makes sex jokes about 14 year old girls is getting the political shitstorm he deserves.

UTASHIT,

Try reading a post before you blindly reply to it, asshole.

Where did I defend Letterman in my #159? I believe I said people would remember Letterman for being an asshole about this.

Reply to my implication that Carter didn't do what Palin is doning: being a publicity hungry floating piece of shit that keeps using her family to keep her face in the news.

Now the Letterman the pervert who makes sex jokes about 14 year old girls is getting the political shitstorm he deserves.

#166 | Posted by utastaff

He made a tasteless joke. People complained. He apologized. Palin accepted his apology.

She's over it.

Get over it.

Why does anybody even watch Letterman anyway?

Reply to my implication that Carter didn't do what Palin is doning: being a publicity hungry floating piece of shit that keeps using her family to keep her face in the news.

#167 | Posted by axe
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I guess the shit stain Axe is a expert at shit.

Lonnie

Wasn't it good ole Tush Limbaugh who called
Chelsea Clinton a dog, inspiring neocon laughter
throughout the land? All politicians' children should be off limits. Politicians should also
resist the urge to use their kids as political props.

I'm just pleased to know that The Moosinator is staying in the public eye with such horrid press and idiotic reactions. Pretty much guarantees that she becomes a footnote rather than a person of note.

Why does anybody even watch Letterman anyway?

#169 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

I have never seen a full Letterman or Leno program. Late night comedy died the night Carson walked off the set for the last time.

God, I'm old.

However, when Biden's daughter was filmed snorting cocaine, the left did not say shit even after Biden comes off as mister anti-drug.

#172 | Posted by utastaff

Seems to me that story was never proven or verified in any way. Or maybe the "video" is stashed away in the same drawer with Michelle's "Whitey" tape. You know, right behind Obama's Kenyan birth certificate.

What IS hilariously funny is that we have a GOP official comparing the First Lady to a gorilla, but a joke in poor taste by a late nite comedian is what jerks the Tighties chain.

Pardon me if I don't believe all the faux outrage.

I have never seen a full Letterman or Leno program. Late night comedy died the night Carson walked off the set for the last time.

God, I'm old.

#174 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue
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Dammit SAR, neither have I. Gawd, I hate agreeing with you but I have to. Carson was the ultimate talk show host. He didn't care if you had a D or an R behind your name, he made fun of you and he'd most definitely did not tell a joke like this. It was beneath Johnny's standards to go there.

Lonnie

Late night comedy died the night Carson walked off the set for the last time.

#174 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Amen.

Its's amazing that Corkie doesn't understand the difference between saying an adult like Michelle Obama who voluntarily places herself in the public eye being described as ugly as a gorilla and a joke about a 14 year old girl getting "knocked up" by a major league baseball player just because she attended a baseball game with her mother.

Are you that Corkie from the tv show "Life Goes On"? Would make sense then.

SanAntonioRogue

have never seen a full Letterman or Leno program. Late night comedy died the night Carson walked off the set for the last time.

I'd maybe once in awhile would catch Leno's beginning monologue of jokes at 11:30 p.m. when his show would first come on. I liked Leno's dry humor.

Now you probably know since Leno has recently left the Tonight Show NBC had put Conan Nolan in Leno's place. I NEVER found Nolan to be funny at all. I thought what he tried to pass off as humor was corny and stupid. Guess I'm not the only one because since Nolan took over the Tonight Show I read the other week the Tonight Show's ratings have
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CC - I think you meant Conan O'Brien.

Leno's going to have a prime time show at 10:00pm weeknights starting in the fall.

Are you that Corkie from the tv show "Life Goes On"? Would make sense then.

#179 | Posted by utastaff

Mmm. Original.

Colin Nolan? Who dat?

I never thought much of Colin Nolin either....

Obama's wife does look like a gorilla, that's a fact especially when she wears those sleeveless dresses and all that hair sticks out.

Even gorillas say that Michelle the gorilla woman is ugly.

HaHaHaHaHaHa!!

Late Knight Thommy Letterman

Freakishly Warped Thom.

"Obama's wife does look like a gorilla, that's a fact especially when she wears those sleeveless dresses and all that hair sticks out."

Hey fwthom,does that remind you of your wife saying to you everytime your naked "it looks like a penis only smaller"?

This whole thing is simple, if Palin wasn't a whore raising whores, then this whole thing could be avoided. That and if the right understood such a thing as comedy, but then they are licking at the tit of a woman who thinks the flintstones is a documentary!!

LM

Repugnant,

I'm sorry, has Letterman been arrested? So free speech is still intact. Just the fact that you have free speech does not mean others can criticize you back. Your an idiot if you think that. If your an entertainer, you want to keep all the fans you can. Alienating them does nothing to help you in any way. Thus is why you don't hear anything out of the Dixie Chicks anymore.

Honestly, I'm sure she has a higher IQ than you judging you by such brilliant words as dumb cunt.

Lonnie

"Gov. Sarah Palin released a statement accepting television host David Letterman's apology for what he called a "bad joke" about Palin's teenage daughter," ABC News reports.

Now if only all the little rightwing girls here on the blog can show that they are also forgiving.... but don't hold your breath.

"Gov. Sarah Palin released a statement accepting television host David Letterman's apology for what he called a "bad joke" about Palin's teenage daughter," ABC News reports.

Now if only all the little rightwing girls here on the blog can show that they are also forgiving.... but don't hold your breath.

#191 | Posted by Corky

I tried that at 10:00 am this morning hoping it would bring this stupidity to an end.

152 posts later, I'm beginning to despair.

Of course it's not because you lefties still have ignorant fucks like Liberal Monger and Pugnant who feel that no lines were crossed in Letterman's lame attempt at humor. Maybe if it were their kid's being talked about, it just might matter.

Lonnie

Mcain said Hillary was raped by Janet Reno and that is why Chelsea is so ugly. Then follows it up with most women enjoy being raped. How does right wing america respond? The nominate him for president. He then gets bitch slapped in election because he chooses one of the stupidest running mates ever(I can still see Dan Quayle jump up and down righ now in glee). She hears 50-60 comments about her FUBAR'd family then decideds to freak out on one since heis definitely a libeal COMEDIAN!! If she sent this much timeas a parent, well one can only assume she wouldn't also be a grandparent already. When is she gonna realize she lost control of her family....

LM

SanAntonio -

CC - I think you meant Conan O'Brien.

Leno's going to have a prime time show at 10:00pm weeknights starting in the fall.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-06-16 03:44

You're right -- my error.

Like I said, I don't watch much of the "Tonight Show" -- if at all -- and then only the opening monologue. Proven by the fact I can't even get the host's name right!

I just never found Conan O'Brien'S sense of humor to be all that funny. Too cornball for my (sick? lol) sense of preferred humor. I like dry, wiseguy type of humor -- but then, that's just me. Here's the comment about the drop in ratings. O'Brien may not fit in as well with the late night crowd.

Thursday, June 4, 2009

Conan O'Brien's Debut Week: Ratings Update and Instant Classic Segment

Conan O'Brien scored a 7.1 rating Monday for his big debut on The Tonight Show, more than his major time-slot competitors, The Late Show with David Letterman on CBS and Nightline on ABC, combined. While his ratings dropped 30 percent for Tuesday's show (and will probably continue to erode all week), that was still 22 percent better than Jay Leno's average for the last quarter.

Lonnie,

No lines were crossed, comedy is comedy.

Your momma is so fat she needs a kick stand!

Hear the one about the new jewish car, not only stops on a dime but picks it up as well.

NASA,need another seven astronauts......

All funny as hell.

Only pussies complain about comedy, especially ones like you that complain partisanly.

I don't have children, nor do I have thin skin and no sense of humor. When comedians perform crazy shit gets said...only fuckwads get bent outta shape by it.

LM

If Palin is the Christian that she claims to be,
isn't she compelled to forgive Letterman? Or is
Sarah a CINO-Christian in Name Only?

#4 | Posted by tiger150

These arguments are so stupid. If you want to know the truth, Jesus already did all the forgiving. We humans don't have to forgive shit if we don't want to. It doesn't make anyone a better or worse Christian if they forgive or not. Take your stupidity down the road.

You'd think the Republicans had better things to do these days than wage war on late-night comedians.-Rcade

Actually, you'd think lefties have much better things to do than to keep coming up with new ways to insult Sarah Palin. What's happening more, Rcade? Republicans waging war on comedians or liberals insulting Palin?

But you and the Palins seem to want to keep milking it for as long as possible. So it seems to me that it is the right that has taken this and worked it for political gain.

#25 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Who's milking anything? Letterman decided that he should apologize again and he should have. It is back in the news because of the second apology not because conservatives are milking it.

It wasn't a tasteless joke.-Crispee OC

It wasn't tasteless to make a crack about ARod screwing an 18 year old girl at Yankee stadium? 18 may be legal age, but that just means you don't go to jail. It's still very young when talking about a 30 something year old screwing her in the stands.

"Letterman decided that he should apologize again and he should have."

Actually he should've told the Palinistas to go fuck themselves.

When comedians perform crazy shit gets said...only fuckwads get bent outta shape by it.

LM

---

Hell yeah! Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Bill Hicks...today we've got lesser-known (but still raunchy and funny as hell) comics like David Cross, Patton Oswalt, Sarah Silverman (well I guess she's better known than the other two guys)...all hysterical, and all guaranteed to offend those who take themselves too seriously.

How far Letterman has fallen...

UTAstaff:
#166 | Posted by utastaff at 2009-06-16 03:11 PM

on that point, I absolutely agree. I haven't found Letterman funny in general, since....well, never. It was outrageous (Palin schtick), unfunny, and it maybe shows he should retire.

When comedians perform crazy shit gets said...only fuckwads get bent outta shape by it.

LM

Are you calling Letterman a comedian? He hasn't been funny since 1995 and he sure as hell isn't a comedian. He is a night show host. While it is necessary for people in these positions to be funny it is not always the case. And Letterman couldn't do an hour of standup without cue cards and a gun to his head. I used to like him, but he just sucks ass now.

There is no such thing as a funny liberal. Letterman may have been funny before the liberal body snatchers got ahold of him. But suggesting that someone rape a 14 year old girl like Letterman did is not funny. Libs only pretend it is comedy to advance their political agenda. They are afraid of a Palin presidential run in 2012 against the Socialist Magic Negro.

Dave Chappelle is the only funny man left in America.

Man, you people are still talking about this?

Funniest part is, FWThom is all outraged at the tasteless joke from the comedian, yet he finds it hunky-dory to refer to Obama as a Socialist Magic Negro.

Question:

If Sarah Palin was Butt Ugly like the Sonia Sotomayer,

any guesses where she'd be today?

Answer:

No where

You're right CBOB...he should have dropped the "magic".

Palin went off the deep end with her "acceptance" of Letterman's apology. She just doesn't know how to act the least bit graceful.

What a wacko.

Palin went off the deep end with her "acceptance" of Letterman's apology. She just doesn't know how to act the least bit graceful.
#209 | Posted by YAVat 2009-06-16 08:06 PM | Reply | Flag: NOT MARRIED AND DOESN'T KNOW THE SCORN OF A MOTHER DEFENDING HER CHILD.

Per Wis, "THE SCORN OF A MOTHER DEFENDING HER CHILD." What fucking bullshit. This was no mother defending her child. This was a politically opportunistic stupid cunt trying to score cheap points at the expense of a popular entertainment icon.

This was a politically opportunistic stupid cunt trying to score cheap points at the expense of a popular entertainment icon.

#211 | Posted by moder8

Entertainment Icon? You are a fucking idiot. I'll bet you have the first season of the Dick Van Dyke show on VHS.

You're upset I refer to Letterman as an entertainment icon? Okay. And here I thought you might be offended by my reference to Palin as a stupid opportunistic cunt.

You're upset I refer to Letterman as an entertainment icon? Okay. And here I thought you might be offended by my reference to Palin as a stupid opportunistic cunt.

#213 | Posted by moder8

I just considered the source, drama queen.

She's an opportunistic cunt because Letterman made a joke about her 14-year old daughter getting reamed by an adult and she got pissed and vocalized her anger?

I just considered the source

Precisely - this was coming from the guy who believes that a gross disparity exists between cons being offensive and libs being offensive.

It is the quintessential self-retorting retort.

These arguments are so stupid. If you want to know the truth, Jesus already did all the forgiving. We humans don't have to forgive shit if we don't want to. It doesn't make anyone a better or worse Christian if they forgive or not. Take your stupidity down the road.

#196 | Posted by everlong

Maybe you shouldn't go speaking for the Lord when you don't really know what you're talking about.

"And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against any one; so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses." - Mark 11:25

"Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors" Matt. 6:12

Then Peter approaching asked him, "Lord, if my brother sins against me, how often must I forgive him? As many as seven times?"

Jesus answered, "I say to you, not seven times but seventy-seven times. Matt. 18:22-23

Another insincere apology, who wants em, really?

My kids used to say I'm sorry all the time. I'd say, no you're not. They know anyone sincere doesn't want insincere bullshit.

Jesus answered, "I say to you, not seven times but seventy-seven times. Matt. 18:22-23

#217 | Posted by sanantoniorogue at 2009-06-16 09:19 PM

That's only if they're sincere. Otherwise it's meaningless just like Lettermans.

And I think it's actually 70 times 7, but I don't have the atheist version so I could be wrong.

but I don't have the atheist version so I could be wrong.

#220 | Posted by Washboard at 2009-06-16 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag: Another phony Christian exposed

I saw Letterman's apology and thought it was sincere--better than the first time he apologized.

I also agreed with his comment he will try to do better in the future.

He might still be an ass--but a sincere apology goes a long way.

Those protesters out in front of CBS are p.o'd.

They need to go have a picnic and relax.

RE: Palin vs. Letterman. What would have been his response if Palin had publically joked about his son being a "bastard kid" because he was born out of wedlock? For that matter, what would have been the liberal left's response toward Palin?

Nobody should ever show their ignorance by making a "joke" out of a minor female being raped - period!

For ever action, there is a reaction, and the reaction to Letterman should be the termination of his job. Of course that will not happen due to the money it makes. What does say about the moral of our nation? Letterman is ONLY an entertainer, and he has proven that he isn't that good of one, either.

That is my opinion, and you are more than welcome to disagree with it, but my question to you is this .... if you expect me to tolerate your opposing views, don't you think you should also tolerate mine?

People watch Letterman?? I am astonished. I have, since being a little kid, found late night talk shows about as interesting as Christmas morning on a golf course.

Stupid joke that should have never been told. In my opinion, it is worse than the Imus comment... Imus was speaking off the cuff. This was written, polished, worked on, etc. And apparently no one on the entire staff had the brains or balls to speak up and say that this might be offensive. Unbelievable.

Imus shouldn't have lost his job. I am not so sure about Letterman, but I wasn't watching him before this and have no reason to start now. If I was a viewer, I would be tempted to change channels.

If CBS starts loosing viewers, apology or not, he will be gone. If his numbers don't take a hit, then he'll be fine. Capitalism at its worst.

In my opinion, it is worse than the Imus comment

O Rly?

Lawl!

It was a joke.

It wasn't the greatest joke in the world but that's all it was.

Spud simply cannot believe all the fuss that little joke has caused.

Of course knowing wot an attention whore Palin is Spud shouldn't be surprised that she she seized the moment and squeezed it fer all the free publicity she could.

Also knowing wot an rtard she is Spud also shouldn't be surprised that she tried to make it about her other daughter and rape.

Knowing this place Spud shouldn't be surprised by all the rtarded ass clowns like Lonnie et al who think that by repeating that incorrect information over and over makes it any less of a lie.

And Spud isn't suprised by all that.

Bemused? Certainly, but not surprised.

But suggesting that someone rape a 14 year old girl like Letterman did is not funny

~False Witness Thom

Nobody should ever show their ignorance by making a "joke" out of a minor female being raped - period!

~Paste-eater

He didn't.

You, otoh, just showed yer own ignorance.

If Bristol had been raped the first time she got herself knocked up you mighta had a point but as is yer a pointless POS.

The really sad thing here, of course, is the fact that the rtard set even twenty years down the road will still be repeating those lies as gospel truths because many of them are simply incapable of learning and self correcting not to mention honesty.

Be Well.

#223 | POSTED BY PASTOR AT 2009-06-17 12:07 AM | REPLY | FLAG

Really? You take the name "Pastor?"

Another fucked up Christian.

My kids used to say I'm sorry all the time. I'd say, no you're not. They know anyone sincere doesn't want insincere bullshit.

Seriously, do you attend "Pastor's" congregation?

I'm glad there are a few good Christians on the DR to balance things out, unlike these two.

JeffJ says She's an opportunistic cunt because Letterman made a joke about her 14-year old daughter getting reamed by an adult and she got pissed and vocalized her anger?

No, and you are smart enough to know that. I certainly don't fault her for defending her kids. I fault her for being a publicity and political whore that's all too happy to use her kids at every opportunity to gain what she believes is political capital. Political capital with idiots like "Pastor" and "Washboard."

Seriously, if she really cared about her kids, she'd have just accepted the apology and thanked Letterman for a sincere apology.. But no. She went on and on and demonstrated her motivation. She used her kids again in her "acceptance" brought in the Constitution (incorrectly) and cited the U.S. Military for allowing "Freedom of Speech."

Talk about who's sincere and who is not. Palin's not the least bit sincere in this.

Spud simply cannot believe all the fuss that little joke has caused.

Of course knowing wot an attention whore Palin is Spud shouldn't be surprised that she she seized the moment and squeezed it fer all the free publicity she could.

Also knowing wot an rtard she is Spud also shouldn't be surprised that she tried to make it about her other daughter and rape.

Knowing this place Spud shouldn't be surprised by all the rtarded ass clowns like Lonnie et al who think that by repeating that incorrect information over and over makes it any less of a lie.

Spud can't believe all the fuss and immediatly blames Palin as a attention whore. Right next to another poster claiming Palin raises daughters to be whores. This is the mantra of the left when one of theirs gets their hands slapped. Don't forget these same libs blamed Bush and the right for Kerry's pathetic joke. Why is there any surprise they blame Palin for this as well?

It was actually pretty funny to read Palin managing to pander to the military of all things while sorta accepting the apology.

I can only hope this woman continues to be the brains of the operation.

Letterman comes out joking about Sarah Palin and the 'Fire Dave' rally

Well, he may have apologized on Monday, but on Tuesday, it was an unbowed David Letterman that strode out to deliver a punchy Late Show monologue.

"I want to get through this quickly so you can get to the 'Fire Dave' rally," he said, referring to the demonstration being held by Gov. Sarah Palin supporters, a gathering that one news source said numbered three dozen, while CNNPolitics.com put the number closer to 15. Wow, what a show of outrage. Do you get the feeling that even the people who are angry at Letterman are beginning to feel it's time to live and let live?

The theme of the nightly Top 10 List was the "Top 10 Things Overheard at the Fire David Letterman Rally." It included "When does Cheney arrive with the waterboarding gear?" "Well, it was nice of CBS to provide the catering," and "Isn't there always a crowd demanding Letterman be fired?"

vid

Knowing this place Spud shouldn't be surprised by all the rtarded ass clowns like Lonnie et al who think that by repeating that incorrect information over and over makes it any less of a lie.

Nobody should ever show their ignorance by making a "joke" out of a minor female being raped - period!

Be Well.

#226 | Posted by dethspud a
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Fuck you dethspud! What lie have I told that I've repeated over and over?

I can't help it if you guys refuse to acknowledge facts. I don't give a shit what you guys think is a given. There are no givens here.

1. 18 y/o not at game

2. 14 y/o at game

Which of these two statements are lies? Yeah come on spud where have I lied at?

Now I've admitted that I didn't think that he would have told the joke if he knew the 18 y/o was not at the game.

I've also said that Letterman could have acted like he had some fucking class and apologized instead of trying to be a fucking liberal tool which was what the first apology was.

Only a moron like you would have accepted the first apology. Keep spinning spud you sound desperate. So where have I lied Spud?

Lonnie

And the band played on...

You would think that "Governor" Palin would be more concerned about the rising gang problem in Anchorage than trying to stay in the media spotlight.

If she was in NYC with the "Toddster" and Willow, where was the little retarded kid?

Just asking.

So who is exploting it now? Palin did, but I am thinking it is Letterman keeping this alive now to help him beat Conan.

So that makes Letterman ....???

somebody please kill this thread.

And the band played on...
#232 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

An interesting book.

#231 | Posted by lwalk17

fucking Tard... Try living in the real world.

Maybe you shouldn't go speaking for the Lord when you don't really know what you're talking about.

"And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against any one; so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses." - Mark 11:25

"Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors" Matt. 6:12

Then Peter approaching asked him, "Lord, if my brother sins against me, how often must I forgive him? As many as seven times?"

Jesus answered, "I say to you, not seven times but seventy-seven times. Matt. 18:22-23

#217 | Posted by sanantoniorogue

I simply meant that we are human and are no better or worse of a person if we are unable to forgive someone for something. You may feel better for forgiving someone but it doesn't mean that you are a better person. In other words, we ain't perfect and the idiot who made the first comment about it should know that.

Sarah Palin is a real Cunning Runt..

Opportunist bitch taking it out on a guy whos almost dead and hasn't told a really funny joke in years.

fucking Tard... Try living in the real world.

#238 | Posted by Repugnant
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Ahhh why don't you take your ball and go home Repugnant? I do live in the real world and have done so for 45 years. Maybe you should dry your ears off and grow up some!

Lonnie

Using some of you guys definition of a whore I can only assume you aren't having sex out of wedlock right? The 18 y/o was in a committed relationship and was on her way to get married. So if that's your definition then your girlfriend whom your having sex with are whores. To say differently is to be a hypocrite.

My definition of a whore is really any girl that goes on Maury Povich's show 4 times or more trying to figure out who her baby's daddy is. At that point, she's considered community property. Maybe I'm wrong. LOL.

Lonnie

This whole thing has been blown SO far out of proportion by the Right trying to drum up yet another worthless issue to distract people...

So Letterman told a bad joke...

He's been on T.V. how long?

And he's not allowed to tell a poorly written
conceived joke once a decade or so?

So it was insensitive? Do you people honestly
think the a name as big as Letterman writes all
of his own material anymore, or that he proof reads
all of his jokes before telling them?

Give me a break...

I ABSOLUTELY LOVED that red headed bearded freak though on the CNN video of the protest outside Letterman's Studios--you know the one with the sign that read, "I'm a Right Wing Nutcase"...or some such...

that sign fit him to a "T"...now THAT dude was Representing!! Powa to the Peoples!!

Tiger150 - you said that if Palin was the Christian she claims to be, shouldn't she forgive Letterman?

You have no knowledge of what Christianity really is or what it means. Yes, she should forgive him, but that does not mean she should not hold him accountable for his mistakes, nor does it mean she must mysteriously "forget" that what he said was wrong.

There are too many people who hold Christians up to a standard that is false - all because they have never taken the time, nor had the desire to understand what they are talking about. And they all seem to claim Christianity is intolerant.

Actually, it is the most tolerant of all faiths, if it is practiced according to the Lord's standard and not our own.

Actually, it is the most tolerant of all faiths, if it is practiced according to the Lord's standard and not our own.

#244 | Posted by Pastor

Unfortunately, the "Lord's standard" seems to have been interpreted by humans through the ages to suit there particular perspectives and agendas.

*there - their

The right is up in arms because they can't understand the absolute hatred the media and left have for Palin. They really believe that these people are out to destroy her completely. I am no fan of hers but it is so freaking obvious that only someone in denial couldn't see it.

I don't know why she is hated this much but I think it is even greater than the hatred they have for Cheney. Maybe it's because she didn't abort her down-syndrome baby, her twang in her speech, her good looks (yes, she is very attractive for her age), her religion or that they can't understand why a non-privileged women would be a republican. Whatever the reason, it goes beyond the Bush/Clinton/Cheney hatred. I can't believe that they spend so much energy hating someone who was the VP on a losing ticket and probably won't get any further than Governor of Alaska. It's just CRAZY!

To deathspud and others who use uncouth verbiage ... why is it that you are so full of hatred? Why is it that you have such a need to put down those who might disagree with you? Why is it that you have such a desire to be hurtful to others?

Psychiatrists have shown throughout the years that those who do these things are very insecure in their own knowledge base and often feel persecuted by others in all they do.

And sociologists have shown that these people use the internet because it is the only place in their worlds that they can be so vile and not be held personally accountable for their actions. Thus, they feel they have a command over others for perhaps the first time in their lives.

When you can only express your thoughts by using foul words, hurtful descriptions, or outright hateful attacks on others, you have shown yourself to be a complete failure at being a part of society. You have also shown yourself to be one who is not able to think precisely and believes anything, as long as it makes them feel better than other people around them.

Agree or disagree, it is I who say such things ... it is a myriad of professionals, mostly liberal and long-tenured in their professions. I just repeat their findings.

As far as your hatred and contempt towards true Christianity, may you some day study it for yourself so you will know the subject you so condemn.

I don't know why she is hated this much ...

Palin's derisive contempt for Obama and Democrats throughout the election, particularly in her acceptance speech, is a big part of it. Her stump speech in North Carolina dividing the country into "pro-America areas of this great nation" and anti-American parts is another.

Palin wanted a culture war between her America and ours, and she got it. Unfortunately for her, our America's at least 10 million votes bigger than hers.

I don't get it....why is it such a sin to joke that Palin raised loose girls? Little dirty and offensive? Sure... Worth a protest? Probably not.

Ok Sycophant,

Are you married or do you have a girlfriend? If you have a girlfriend, are you two sexually active? If you are then your girlfriend isn't any better than Palin's 18 year old. If Palin's 18 year old is a whore then that would make your girlfriend a whore. So should I sit here and tell jokes about your girlfriend being a whore? I wouldn't because I feel that would be wrong on many levels most of which would mean I lowered my standards to do that. People engaged in calling Sarah Palin's daughters whores are being totally hypocritical when they themselves either have done the same thing or are currently doing the same thing.

Lonnie

#251 | Posted by lwalk17

Great post. But read my full post then think then write. Am I someone who purposefully put myself and family into the national spotlight thereby becoming a celebrity? Nope. Would I be offended by such a joke? Sure. Would I protest him? Nope. This went way too far.

Sychophant, you are right .... you don't get it. Just as I don't get your ideology. How do you know Palin raised loose girl(s)? Have you ever done something your parents would have been upset with you over? Sure you have. Does that mean your parents raised a bad kid? Certainly not. It only means that, as a kid, you made a bad choice.

Most of our choices like that do not stay with us, but in some cases, they do. Stop condemning people over what you think and stick to the little you know.

My belief is it should all boil down to common decency. But that will never happen when we impose our own prejudicial judgments on others, based on nothing more than our own personal opinions. Most of the time, our opinions are not even based on reality, but on nothing more than negative hearsay.

As far as Palin's stump speech, we first need to get over it and realize that's what politicians do. It is an automatic "them vs. us" game. Both sides practice it with joy and expertise. Get over it and get on with it.

Several of you have posted the same wonderful insight: That being; since Palin put herself and her family in the national spotlight, anything goes - even viciously attacking the children.

What the parents do should give you no right to attack the children. That used to come under the heading of common decency. For those who feel it is okay to ravage the children if they disagree with the parents, you are showing proof that you have no common decency and no respect towards anybody else other than yourself.

Let me ask you again .... what would your reaction be if I joked about Letterman's son being a bastard? Would you have the same accepting reaction toward me as you have for Letterman's joking about Palin's minor daughter?

Sycophant,

The general rule in the media is that family is off-limits. You could make the argument that the 18 yr old is a public figure but the 14 yr old isn't. Since it was the 14yr old at the game (she is a minor too), people felt it was below the belt and a violation of the un-written rule about family.

Now Letterman said he meant the 18 yr old after the fact but people on the right didn't buy it. I believe him when he said he meant the 18 yr old.

My real issue is that he probably has made more jokes about Palin since the election than Obama.

Let's remember, Al Gores son was arrested during the 2000 election and it was ignored by the media. It was also ignored by the Republican Party because it fell into the un-written rule about family. Since his son only did the standard family picture type stuff, non-political speeches in support of his dad, Gore was given a pass on it.

The Gore thing only came to light when some Democrats went after the Bush girls after the election and the Republicans threaten open war on families if it didn't stop.

Sychophant, forget about the general rule of the media. Let's stick to the general rule of decency. The children should not be "punished" by arm chair viewers at all.

No matter what Letterman meant, he was out of bounds for even saying anything about the children. Letterman used to be entertainingly funny. But over the years, he has forgotten that he is ONLY an entertainer, and this last episode should prove to him that he has either lost his mark or gotten away from it and needs to step aside until he can get a clear grasp of just who he really is, and what his responsibilities are.

Discretion is still the better part of valor. All of us needs to remember that in this day and age. We yell and scream about our "rights" to be heard while we shut our ears to hear others and while we forget all about having rights means to use great responsibility with those rights. Even on Letterman's show.

Let's remember, Al Gores son was arrested during the 2000 election and it was ignored by the media.

It wasn't ignored. It was covered when it happened:

Who gives a S**t THIS IS A TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT
Get over it!

RCADE, can you post anything that isn't foul, personal critical, or filled with some kind of inner rage you seem to have regarding others who disagree with you? I was just curious, because you have said nothing meaningful or encouraging towards anything in any of your posts. They have all been littered with trash words and ill conceived viewpoints.

It might be best for all concerned, even yourself, to reign in your abusive heart until such time as you can offer something positive on any subject.

Just spewing foul words for the sake of trashing others is always a sign of extreme immaturity that should be avoided at all costs.

Yes, by the way, I am a pastor of a church, and we can disagree, but we should never be disagreeable while we disagree.

Damn.

Someone pull "pastor" McFeely's plug.

JerryTarkanian .... so it is okay with you if I spend my day posting trashy messages about some little girl being knocked up, but not okay if I post messages trying to remind everyone that, no matter what we believe, we should project it in a way that shows respect and proper decorum?

What is wrong with that picture? Do you personally disagree that we should show respect and get away from all this vile contempt we have for others? Or, can you actually format your feelings without vitriolic tones?

And no, I certainly am not a feely warm fuzzy person by heart. My natural tendency is to slice you up in little bitty pieces with my tongue, and I have the ability to do that, but it would be wrong. And that is my point .... if it is wrong, why do it? Answer that if you can, Jerry.

It's kind of like Johnson or Tad found Jesus.

I doubt he'll last long.

Anyone remember this???

#262 | Posted by Pastor

Here's a thought "Pastor" - spend your day posting whatever you want to. This is a political blog. Some people are nice, some people are not. Some use bad language because they are jerks, some because they are baiting people like you.

So get out of the pulpit. Save your pontificating for Sunday morning. That's what you get paid for, right?

SanAntionoRogue ... I know this is a political blog. But I ask you the same question ..... just because we disagree, why would that be alright with you to put down others as you disagree?

I am not pontificating, my friend. If I were, I'd be telling you things you do not want to hear. But I haven't done that, have I? And I do not get paid to pontificate from my pulpit. I do, however, serve others .... and rather than slice and dice you verbally, it is much "nicer" to disagree with you without trying to anger you. Or, do you disagree with that, too?

Oh Pastor, get off the soap box and wipe away the visine tears. Also, while at it, read my entire post before spouting off.

To quote you, "Sychophant, you are right .... you don't get it. Just as I don't get your ideology. How do you know Palin raised loose girl(s)? Have you ever done something your parents would have been upset with you over? Sure you have. Does that mean your parents raised a bad kid? Certainly not. It only means that, as a kid, you made a bad choice. " Pastor

You are right. I don't get it. I get that it was a bad joke and said so. So of course you criticize me for not getting it was a bad joke (read much?). But what I actually don't get it is protesting his show after he apologizes TWICE. You are exploding a common trivial event and twisting facts in order to look like a victim.

Furthermore, this woman ran her campaign on two issues: being from Alaska and being a tough mom. She THREW her family into the spotlight going so far as to bring them on stage at every opportunity.

And speaking of ideology, does this mean you've written nasty letters and protested your own conservative pundits for attacking the families of liberals?

Damn...I thought the conservative implosion was a myth. You make even PETA efforts look sane by comparison.

Great post. But read my full post then think then write. Am I someone who purposefully put myself and family into the national spotlight thereby becoming a celebrity? Nope. Would I be offended by such a joke? Sure. Would I protest him? Nope. This went way too far.

#252 | Posted by Sycophant
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So it's ok to blame the victim. I sure as hell hope you ain't a judge! She was running for public office not her kids. Her kid's did not go make speeches for her mother. Those kid's where not doing anything for the campaign other than sitting down while their mother was giving a speech.

Instead of blaming the Palins for this you should be smart enough to know that this has been good for Letterman. He's finally out rated the tonight show. I think he purposefully let this go this long before finally issuing a sincere apology.

Lonnie

Sycophant, I am not on a soapbox. I have asked several times for an answer to a question, and none of you who have closed minds seem to be able to put your thoughts together enough to answer it without being abusive.

Here is what you might try to answer, if you can do it in a civilized adult mode and not as an angry child mode.

"Why is it alright with you if you read the many blogs people write using profanity and abusive language when they bash the right, but you have a hissy fit when you read someone on the left saying we need to use respect?"

Now, until you have enough rational thought patterns to answer that back as an adult, why not just keep quiet and quit reading if it upsets you so much?

By the way, Bill O'Reilly is as pompous as Letterman. Hannity is right in how he feels, but he has a one-track mind, and Maher .... well, we just won't go down that path, as that boy is ALL messed up.

It was a JOKE! A rather dry humored one and was laughed at because it attacked the idiocy of palins stands of family values.........it appears quite a few people lack the ability to comprehend.

RCADE, can you post anything that isn't foul, personal critical, or filled with some kind of inner rage you seem to have regarding others who disagree with you? ... Just spewing foul words for the sake of trashing others is always a sign of extreme immaturity that should be avoided at all costs.

SanAntionoRogue ... I know this is a political blog. But I ask you the same question ..... just because we disagree, why would that be alright with you to put down others as you disagree?

#266 | Posted by Pastor

Because people here are free to respond in any way they choose, as long as they don't go over the line that Rcade has established.

As I said, some do it because they are nasty people, some do it in the heat of the moment, and some do it simply to get a reaction and bait other posters.

No amount of preaching is going to change a single poster here. So you can spend all of your time raging against the machine, or you can post your points and responses like everyone else and take your chances with what you get in return - just like the rest of us.

Pastor, stfu.

oh boy! a bunch of hot air about the new Nigger Guy on the block.

And DONNERBOY proves the point. A totally inept mind, trying to say something explicit, while having no ability to do so. And what comes out is vile crap.

Point proven. Like it or leave it, that is our choice. After all, this is a "political blog" where everyone has the right to say their thing - right?

Donnerboy, what makes you so offensive is not so much what you say, but in the way you choose to say it.

so hey there Pasterizer... so you don't think this is just a bunch of hot air? Well, I do, and it sure reminds me of that South park episode about the poor Nigger Guy.

Gee sorry if that offends you. You must be a horrible pastor.

The real joke here is Sarah Palin. (and perhaps your Faux outrage).

Donner

I am like you in many ways, Donnerboy. I see things that I do not agree with and I feel anger on the inside. But I try my best to approach my thoughts, not with anger and hatefulness, but in a way that tries to draw discussion from who I am talking to, and not in a way that demeans them, makes fun of them, or alienates them.

If that makes me a bad pastor in your eyes, I would have to question just what all you know about what makes a pastor in the first place.

Am I offended by the word "nigger" - yes I am. Not because I am black (I am white), but because I have seen how that word is used and the hurt is has caused so many for no reason.

If you think it is fine to be abusive, use foul words, hurt other people, then you have the right to do so, but if you choose that right without using any responsibility, you have opened yourself up to people opposing you. Part of the game, my friend. Now, let's see if you have any ability to respond without using foul words, put-downs, etc.

I think Pastor and 101Chairborne are going to be great friends. Two pea's in a pod.

Pastor, where's your apology to RCade?

Waiting. . .

I stirred up a hornets nest among those who don't like listening to an opposing view.

RCADE, as we all do, I erred in haste. I truly do give you my apologies for slapping you with something you were not guilty of. Doesn't change the fact I said it, but it does show you where my heart is. Please accept my apologies.

As for those who are stirred - agree with me or not, please afford me the same opportunities and leeway you give to those who agree with you.

Dude. You're too easy.

Good on ya.

RCADE, as we all do, I erred in haste. I truly do give you my apologies for slapping you with something you were not guilty of. Doesn't change the fact I said it, but it does show you where my heart is. Please accept my apologies.

Not enough.

You deserve 50 lashes and that's just to start.

Also type out 2500 mea culpas to Rcade (and type out each one individually, no using "cut and paste")

No, YAV, I am not easy, I just try to be sincere. I do always make it, but I try.

I came on here after reading some very vicious attacks on others. My main message has been nothing more than we should lower ratchet down the personal attacks and stick to the differences in opinions and beliefs.

For that, some of you have chosen to divert your attacks to focus on me. Is that a wrong message, or is it that you personally disagree with it and think we should attack one another at the expense of actually debating the differences?

If that makes me a bad pastor in your eyes, I would have to question just what all you know about what makes a pastor in the first place.

I will have to let you know that I don't really like to many "pastors" that I have encountered. I find that they are to closed minded and not really willing to listen to anyone who is not a "true believer".

You appear to fit nicely in this close minded category. And I don't remember directing any hate and anger in your general direction though I do feel a strong urge to FART in your general direction. And it is also obvious that you did not even check out the SP episode about NIGGER GUY or you would see how silly it is to get upset about the word NIGGER and this whole episode about apologizing for a stupid joke.

Anyway Carry on with your RANT my wayward son!

Donner

...For that some of you have chosen to divert your attacks to focus on me. Is that a wrong message, or is it that you personally disagree with it and think we should attack one another at the expense of actually debating the differences?

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DR isn't always known for its civil discourse.

Donnerboy .... I used to be a boxer. Not the best, but a viable foe at any rate. I still have the abilities to have the same mindset. So don't classify me as some kind of insincere, closed minded, or negative until you actually take the adult step forward to find out if I am these things or not. And the only way to do that, my ill-informed friend, is to civilly debate the issues, and leave the childish rhetoric in your toy box at home.

I am not closed minded at all in reality. I do, however, put a great amount of importance on trying to not hurt others if I don't have to. I would always be willing to debate what we each believe, but I would never try to put you down or demean you personally for believing what you believe. That seems to be the difference between us. You rant to draw attention to yourself, while I would prefer to stick to the issues and leave the personalities out of it.

If I upset you that much, why don't you just flag me as offensive so you don't have to read me?

RCADE, as we all do, I erred in haste. I truly do give you my apologies for slapping you with something you were not guilty of. Doesn't change the fact I said it, but it does show you where my heart is. Please accept my apologies.

Apology accepted. Since you're new, I think your confusion was based on how comments are organized here. I need to look at that.

RCADE ... Thanks.

Now if everyone would be willing to get past the personal and get on with the issues, we'd have some very vigorous debates that might even change a few minds!

Let's keep hoping.

If I upset you that much, why don't you just flag me as offensive so you don't have to read me?

#286 | Posted by Pastor at 2009-06-17 06:32 PM

I rarely flag anyone offensive...!

You rant to draw attention to yourself, while I would prefer to stick to the issues and leave the personalities out of it.

naw I rarely "rant" ...I leave that nonsense to the likes of Johnson or overly wordy Pastor/Preachers like yerself.... I was just reacting to your absurdness in being offended when I used the NIGGER GUY analogy.

And by being that easily offended and not even bothering to look into the reasoning behind why I compared this episode of "hot air" to an episode in South Park that delves right into a similar episode of "Demanding a Good Ass Kissing" (they are SO RIGHT ON sometimes) you are letting your ignorance (and closed mind) hang out there for all to see. Typical Xtian BS.

Sarah Palin just wanted David Letterman to Kiss Her Lilly White Ass. Which he gladly obliged. Me? I'd have to wash my mouth with peroxide after kissing that Ass.

And I have no problem with drawing attention to myself... ask our DR resident obnoxious dillweed Chairpoodle! He loves me!

Oh and Pastor.. that was really nice of you to apologize to Rcade after falsely accusing him...don't see too much of that round here! maybe there IS hope for you!

Anyway...

Carry on my wayward son,

I doubt there will be peace when we are done!

Donner

So what?

Sara got her apology........but BIDEN GOT THE JOB!!!

BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!

Thank you Sara for contributing SO MUCH to the election.

America L-O-V-E-S a Slimy,Vengeful,Cheap Shot Artist!

Hey come on! Letterman's whole,popularity with American audiences was based on the fact that he is a slimy,vengeful,cheap-shot artist!
The way it goes is that audiences feel lucky and appreciative if Letterman "Hates & Destroys" (at least some of) the same people as they do!!!