Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, June 16, 2009

The tragic story of a young woman carrying a terminally ill child to term, delivering it and then having it die after a few hours was a big hit on the Internet's anti-abortion sites, and her blog got a million hits, there was only one problem. None of it was true. Beccah Beushausen, 26, a social worker from Illinois, has admitted her site was a hoax.

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Reality and the right.....

#1: and never the 'twain shall meet.

The Tubes never lie.

If the anti-abortion crowd wants to see a hoax, they only have to look at the ass-raping they've been dealt by the Republican Party.

The small portion of the population that are one-issue voters on abortion sold their souls to the GOPiggies, held their collective noses to the racism, perversion, war-mongering and corporate whoring and religiously voted R in the vain hope that the politicians would do something, ANYTHING, to reverse Row vs. Wade.

They got NOTHING. Actually LESS THAN NOTHING. Talk about paying for your dress, paying for the limo, paying for the prom tickets, paying for you date's tux, buying the booze and still getting raped on the ride to the dance and shoved out of the car in a bad part of town!!! This is what the Republican Party does every time to the idiots. And they keep coming back for more.

Truly a match made in heaven.

She supposedly didn't benefit financially from this stunt and they're still this pissed.

I wonder what will happen when they figure out the crooks they give money to every Sunday has been lying to them for years for the money.

What?!? Heart-wrenching anecdote turns out to be full of shit? Well...color me fucking flabbergasted!

Christians - borne of lies, and born liars!

Every night for the last two months, thousands of abortion opponents across the nation logged on to a blog run by the suburban Chicago woman who identified herself only as "B" or "April's Mom."

April's Mom?

Lawl!

April Fools is more like it.

Wot a tangled web we weave when first we practise to decieve.

Be Well.

She supposedly didn't benefit financially from this stunt ...

I find that part a little hard to believe. She had ads on her site. It got a million hits. Unless her ad rep comes forward and says they didn't pay her, I think it's more likely she made some money from that traffic. (Though not, probably, a lot.)

All the good people are properly outraged, but surely they know that the pro-liars never let the facts stand in the way of a good fetal rights anecdote. Better lying than killing doctors, I guess. herm

lock her up.

I love how these "Christians" have no problem with violating that pesky "Thou Shalt Not Lie" simpleton law of theirs.

#12 | Posted by unklegwar

That is not the only one of their policies that they violate on a regular basis.

Pick and choose Christians also known as Faux Christians.

Golly, a liar on the internet. Where would the DR be without them?

As to your use of the word "proliars" HERM - what would they be lying about? Seems the pro-choicers would be more clearly identified with using a misnomer as they are really pro-death.

This nutjob is also a social worker...

The small portion of the population that are one-issue voters on abortion sold their souls to the GOPiggies, held their collective noses to the racism, perversion, war-mongering and corporate whoring and religiously voted R in the vain hope that the politicians would do something, ANYTHING, to reverse Row vs. Wade.They got NOTHING. Actually LESS THAN NOTHING. Talk about paying for your dress, paying for the limo, paying for the prom tickets, paying for you date's tux, buying the booze and still getting raped on the ride to the dance and shoved out of the car in a bad part of town!!! This is what the Republican Party does every time to the idiots. And they keep coming back for more.Truly a match made in heaven.#5 | Posted by axe at 2009-06-16 01:15 AM | Reply |

You make a good point, axe.

Where should those of us go that care about the racist nature of abortion?

The list of prolife Democrats who switched to proabortion when they had national political aspirations is a long one...Clinton, Gephardt, Gore, Jesse Jackson.

I have no doubt that Republicans deserve to be out of office for awhile.

Do you prochoice/proabortion realize you are on the wrong side of medical science on the abortion debate? Every time an ultrasound is actually done on the mother, you guys and your baby-killing superstition lose the debate.

Or do you think all ultrasounds are "witchcraft" and all the photos are "photoshopped" like herm?

Christians - borne of lies, and born liars!#7 | Posted by olly at 2009-06-16 01:43 AM | Reply |

Provide some proof or stop the name-calling, it's a pathetic form of communication that shows the weakness of your rhetoric.

"Provide some proof or stop the name-calling"

Read your previous post.

"Do you prochoice/proabortion realize you are on the wrong side of medical science on the abortion debate? Every time an ultrasound is actually done on the mother, you guys and your baby-killing superstition lose the debate."

Liar.

The verdict is still out as there are many points along development that are claimed to be when the fetus makes the magical and arbitrary conversion to a baby. It depends on what your personal standards are on the topic.

Not to mention the your Christian Bible declares that life does not begin until inspiration of the first breath at birth.

It was probably RedCocoSamAxeDiabloVille's blog. Ran out of names on the DR and had to start lying somewhere else.

Not to mention the your Christian Bible declares that life does not begin until inspiration of the first breath at birth.

#19 | Posted by Reagan58
Does it say "at birth" or just inspiration of first breath?

The baby breathes fluid long before it breathes air. It's a stupid debate. Those that care about life oppose abortion, those that do not care about life are for it. The rest is semantical bs.

Those that care about life oppose abortion, those that do not care about life are for it. The rest is semantical bs.

#21 | Posted by ELCIDCE90| Flag: Semantical BS

#22 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-06-16 11:37 AM | Reply | Flag:Obvious pro-death supporter

"The baby breathes fluid long before it breathes air."

You don't really believe that it's the same thing, do you?

"It's a stupid debate."

Absolutely. A case could be made for any arbitrary point along development for the fetus becoming a baby.

"Those that care about life oppose abortion, those that do not care about life are for it. The rest is semantical bs."

Or there are those who are willing to force their opinions on others and those who aren't. I've yet to meet someone who's pro-abortion. I've yet to meet someone who saviors the thought of an abortion. Most pro-choice people I know (myself included) would do everything they could to convince a significant other to NOT get an abortion if they were seeking one, but would stop at forcing their will on them, let alone millions of other anonymous women.

If you have to simplify that to me being "pro-death" in your little oversimplified black and white world, so be it.

#23 | Posted by ELCIDCE90| Flag: More Semantical Bullshit

Or there are those who are willing to force their opinions on others and those who aren't.

You mean like a pregnant mother enforcing her opinion on her unborn child in determining that the child should not continue to live? That kind of forced opinion?

Pro-lifers speak for those who cannot. Pro-deathers believe in forcing their opinion on those who cannot speak theirs.

The baby breathes fluid long before it breathes air."

You don't really believe that it's the same thing, do you?

Yep.

El,

In truth, most of us that support the right to abortion do so out of a sense of privacy and respect for women that choose to have an abortion. In other words, we want government and religion to get out of people's lives unless they ask for it to be there.

I've always thought that abortion should be a last choice but it's not MY choice.

"You mean like a pregnant mother enforcing her opinion on her unborn child in determining that the child should not continue to live? That kind of forced opinion?"

LOL Yes, we should allow the fetus/baby to make it's own decisions while in the womb, then bang, can't make another one until they're 18.

"Pro-lifers speak for those who cannot. Pro-deathers believe in forcing their opinion on those who cannot speak theirs."

Oh man you make some crazy logical pretzels. You think pro-choicers saying "stay the fuck out of it, it's none of your business" is pushing their opinion on you. Fuck you're an idiot.

"Yep."

Well then I guess you strive to believe anything that supports your pre-determine conclusions, no matter how ridiculous.

"In truth, most of us that support the right to abortion do so out of a sense of privacy and respect for women that choose to have an abortion. In other words, we want government and religion to get out of people's lives unless they ask for it to be there."

Don't you know that's forcing your opinion on them?

"As to 'proliars' - what would they (lie) about? ... they are really pro-death."

The pro-liars lie about everything connected with reproductive rights, Cidney, if they think it will do the fetus some good. The choice side, Cidney, REALLY cares about life, lives of live women. herm

Hey-El Shithead!
Keep your Religious beliefs off of MY wife's body.
What SHE chooses to do is up to her-not you.

Don't like Abortion?
Then I'd SUGGEST you never get one......

Hosea 9:14 Revised Standard Version, To punish Israel for their impiety and idolatry, God Gave them "miscarrying wombs."

Don't you know that's forcing your opinion on them?

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2009-06-16 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let me guess, you're a grad of the University of Notre Dumb?

At least she didn't lie about being under enemy fire or cheat on her taxes. Then she would qualify for Obama's cabinet.

"Don't like Abortion?
Then I'd SUGGEST you never get one......"

#31 | Posted by frankf55

Does the abortee get a vote in this too or just you because you are the big strong turd with a vacuum cleaner.

Liar. The verdict is still out as there are many points along development that are claimed to be when the fetus makes the magical and arbitrary conversion to a baby. It depends on what your personal standards are on the topic.#18 | Posted by jpw at 2009-06-16 11:22 AM | Reply |FLAG: I OST THEREFORE I NAME-CALL

You proabortionists lie. Tell me, what IS known about fetuses?

1). Every abortion performed stops a beating heart.

2). Every abortion performed stops the measureable brain waves of a fetus.

3). Fetuses feel measureable pain when abortions are performed.

4). Women who've had abortions have increased levels of death, infertility, depression, suicide and breast cancer.

Debate the science and leave your invisible demons that love the shedding of blood and your proabortion superstitions out of this.

"Let me guess, you're a grad of the University of Notre Dumb?"

My God that's fucking lame.

No, Elcid says so themselves.

"One lie led to another."

Hmmm sounds like the main plank of the Republican Platform to me. No wonder they collapsed.

Wow, the pro-deathers are hot today! Love the libtards who are all about keep your govt. and religion out of my (wifes) body, but sure want that intervention for health care? WTF. It's an old and tired argument. Like I said before, you either are for life or against it - we know where you guys stand - do you know where you stand? Probably not. And F55 - the government is all over you and your wifes lives.

What about public defendants? You know. Government appointed lawyers for those who cannot afford them. Same kind of issue with speaking out and having "control" over your wife's "body". If your wife did not have another body in it, I would agree with you.

"Love the libtards who are all about keep your govt. and religion out of my (wifes) body, but sure want that intervention for health care?"

Love the Rtards who are all about keeping the government out of our lives, but sure want that intervention for unborn babies.

"Like I said before, you either are for life or against it"

In a simple black and white world, however, the real world, the one you don't seem to grasp, contains many layers of nuance.

"we know where you guys stand"

You know where you'd like us to stand.

"do you know where you stand? Probably not."

Better than you I'm sure. But then again, there's that whole nuance thing you don't seem to understand.

1) a heart is not a life, it is an organ which pumps blood.

2) "measurable" brain waves do not equal a developed and functional brain

3) They "feel" pain but don't have a developed cerebral cortex, so they have zero ability to comprehend it. So no offense is taken.

4) This is correlation/causation...not cause and effect. Women who've undergone surgeries or medical complications in general have these issues. In fact, many women take birth control (i.e. mass murder pills) specifically to help in these areas.

It is very easy to debate the "science"...much more difficult to debate someone who thinks of a pre-developed fetus as a fully functioning member of society. Reality check: It's not you inside of a uterus, it is an undeveloped fetus. Feel free to romanticize the idea of "protecting life", bashing "baby killers", and equating "saving" fetuses to saving people, but understand that you're only impressing those as fundamentally misguided as you are.

".#18 | Posted by jpw at 2009-06-16 11:22 AM | Reply |FLAG: I OST THEREFORE I NAME-CALL"

LOL I lost? I pointed out you were pushing your personal opinion as fact and I somehow lost?

"You proabortionists lie. Tell me, what IS known about fetuses?

1). Every abortion performed stops a beating heart."

Every? I'll concede most (52% of abortions occur before the 9th week), but not every. Again though, it's personal opinion as to the significance of this as does a lump of beating cells truly constitute a heart?

"2). Every abortion performed stops the measureable brain waves of a fetus."

I can't find any conclusive proof of this. There seems to be much debate surrounding this.

"3). Fetuses feel measureable pain when abortions are performed."

en.wikipedia.org

"Though many researchers in the area of fetal development agree a fetus is unlikely to feel pain until after the seventh month of pregnancy,[1][2][3]"

Liar.

"4). Women who've had abortions have increased levels of death, infertility, depression, suicide and breast cancer."

These points have been made before and debunked. Liar.

www.guttmacher.org

" Abortions performed in the first trimester pose virtually no long-term risk of such problems as infertility, ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) or birth defect, and little or no risk of preterm or low-birth-weight deliveries.[13]

Exhaustive reviews by panels convened by the U.S. and British governments have concluded that there is no association between abortion and breast cancer. There is also no indication that abortion is a risk factor for other cancers.[13]"

"Debate the science and leave your invisible demons that love the shedding of blood and your proabortion superstitions out of this."

Stick to your emotional arguments and loose interpretations of the science, you look like less of a dickbag.

It's not you inside of a uterus, it is an undeveloped fetus. -

So when did I become me? This is an absurd statement made by the pro-death crowd to rationalize the killing of innocent life - yeah, they are alive in there. Most are. HERM I am convinced has never been alive.

By your rationale, if that is not a human being growing inside the mother, it might as well be a dog. Congratulations, you are now on the same level as slave owners.

Again, keep up the rationalizations if it helps you sleep at night being in favor of killing innocent life.

"Like I said before, you either are for life or against it.."

Right. So why is it that so many of you "pro-lifers" also beleive in the DEATH PENALTY.

Since more than 50% of all pregnancies end in spontaneous miscarriage, it would seem "god" is the greatest abortionist of all.

Why does god hate zygotes and fetuses?

And speaking of which, exactly when does the "soul" enter the cell cluster?

Since more than 50% of all pregnancies end in spontaneous miscarriage, it would seem "god" is the greatest abortionist of all.
* * * * *

Uh huh. Well, 100% of all lives end somehow, so I guess we can also conclude that God is a murderer. Therefore, what should a murderer get?

Not exactly the strongest argument I've ever heard for the virtues of abortion, that since God allows many unborn to die, then we should just assume more work should be done, and do still more.

Why does god hate zygotes and fetuses?
* * * *

Why does God hate old people? People with AIDS or cancer? People who have been in car wrecks? In tornadoes?

Uh oh. RightIs is starting to realize that there is no god.

The lesson of today's thread is that the Cidneys and Rights and Kirks and the rest of the fetal rights bunch are simply beyond hope. They continue to mouth the same tired bullshit, unsupported by either science, religion or common sense. You try to set them straight, shine just a teeny light into their gloomy innards, and nothing. A day later they're back, telling us that a beating heart - be still mine own! - is a full-grown little Republiturd waiting to emerge. herm

When I bait a hook with an earthworm, I stop a beating heart (five to be exact).

"...the cut worm forgives the plow..."

"It was probably RedCocoSamAxeDiabloVille's blog. Ran out of names on the DR and had to start lying somewhere else."

You know, Joe, I happen to disagree with you on abortion. In your septic mind that means I am a liar who makes up things on blogs?
I guess that means I can accuse you of being a liar if you voted for Clinton or Biden who have verified public lies(and I DID vote for them, by the way)? Guilt by association?
Everyone talks about respect on this issue (and I am glad Obama did at Notre Dame, even though I wish he had never been invited there), but few want to show it.
I am not a liar. I hold sincere views and do not want to be found "just following orders" when the pro-aborts run out of moral resolve to preserve clinical killing as a "right" and this country wakes up to the carnage it permitted.
It will happen, because morality is a fad with the temporal and a constant with others.

Just a few points, ol' debbil: You "disagree on abortion"; that means YOU want to set YOURself up to rummage in other folks' wombs. You speak of Clinton/Biden "lies" but don't specify, and *I* surely know of none. Debbil, there ARE no "pro-aborts," there's no "clinical killing" or carnage. If you suggest there are, you are indeed a liar. That's MY sincere view. herm

I'll choose my own terms, Herm, and note that you are usually respectful. If I think the child in a womb is a human being, I will state it that way and that is not telling a lie. That means I think (as in my opinion and belief) it is clinical killing hence carnage.
Look, if you think differently, that's fine by me. But do not call me a liar for disagreeing. My objection to Joe's post was to include my name as if having a different opinion makes me the same as some hystrionic blogger who tells fibs.
I am sure you see my point. If you do not, then I have to chalk you up as one of those who think anyone outside your opinion is a moral leper, because only you hold the truth.
And how about "I did not have sex with that woman" and Biden's well-documented plagiarism? Are those lies you never heard about in your long life?

D, if you talk about a "child in the womb," you lie, even if you cop to defining your own terms. There is no such thing as a child in a womb; that's hysterical hyperbole to make others look bad. Labeling your fancies as fancies does not automatically make them truth.

That said, "I did not have sex with that woman" probably should have been "piss off, none of your friggin' business." Plagiarism is plagiarism, but hardly a lie. My oratory and writings always attribute what I borrow. No one thinks I'm any less brilliant, and someone may actually get the notion that I once read a book. herm

So why is it that so many of you "pro-lifers" also beleive in the DEATH PENALTY.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy

I don't support the death penalty. There is too much corruption in the system and I don't want to see one innocent person be put to death wrongly.

Well except for maybe Ted Bundy types.

But put them away for life--forever.

Her story may have been a hoax--but CNN Anderson had a woman on his show who had the exact story.

ac360.blogs.cnn.com

Diane Elder.

And herm--they are called "little ones".

Little Innocent Ones.

D, if you talk about a "child in the womb," you lie

No he doesn't.

A child in the womb is a child in the womb.

Its a person.

You, on the other hand, are stuck with the unenviable task of defending your absurd theory that personhood "begins" with one's expulsion through the vagina.

In short, you lose the argument.

Fucking butcher.

Jak please email me your address so we can meet. Hopefully you live close to Laredo.

Post your personal address on the thread.

It'll be fun.

Herm, if you believe there is no child in a womb, please note I do not respond, "LIAR!" That would be an insult and you need to show the same respect for my view. PLENTY of physicians agree with either view so don't claim "science" as your witness.
My objection to Joe's post was his insinuation as if my view were something I know to be untrue and yet repeat (i.e. a lie). I am a truthful man and demand that respect.
I'll be a gent and concede the Clinton line as a possible misstatement, but only if you concede his election promise of a middle class tax cut was as wonton a whopper as Obama's promise not to raise middle class taxes.

"In short, you lose the argument. Fucking butcher." Man, Mao Mao, you sure showed me!

"... as wonton a whopper" is what happens when Burger King does Chinese takeout. I guess, D, that if you tell me the sun circles the earth, I must honor that as your true belief ... herm

Man, Mao Mao, you sure showed me!

Of course I did.

Witness your incoherent and babbling rejoinder.

You honor my belief finally???? Amazing.
I almost think you are lying but will let that gracefully drop in the hope of world peace, love and the global way...or whatever Superman was fighting for after he first smoked weed.

"You honor my belief finally???? Amazing." Hell yes, it says rat thar in da bible that Joshua - you remember old Josh - made the sun stand still. Now THAT is truth!.

Mao Mao, that CAN'T be the best you've got... herm

It also says by what standard we judge we shall be judged. Cheers!

That wasn't Mao, Herm - it was Diablo.

Oops.

My bad.

I thought you reproduced Diablo's post and then replied to Mao.

I was wrong.

Carry on.

Fucking butcher.

Posted by Pinochet_Mao at 2009-06-17 12:08 AM | Reply

That wasn't Mao, Herm - it was Diablo.

"The red pill, Mr. Herm.

You take the red pill with your supper.

Would you like to join the Activities Group and play Bunco afterwards?

Nullifidian will be there...."

"Oops.

My bad."

Little too quick to defend your hero Pinochet, eh, Jeff? Maybe if you came up for air once in awhile...

Are you crazy? I'm not posting may address in public. Thats why we should do it over email so we can have some beers in Nuevo Laredo.

Actaully, I was poking fun at Herm for addressing the wrong person. Unfortunately, I was wrong about that.

No big deal.

Well, if herm poked fun at me yesterday, National Man Day, I WOULD have been the wrong person.
Today, I'll let it slide.

"yesterday, National Man Day"

Spent the day polishing your truck's balls?

Thats why we should do it over email so we can have some beers in Nuevo Laredo.

LOL.

You pasty little white bitch, you'd last about 10 seconds in Nuevo Laredo.

But I tell ya what.

Go to the Convent Bridge, cross, and go upstream 4 blocks on the Eagle Pass road.

You'll come to "Avenido Espinoza"---go left (its the only way you can go).

Go 9 blocks and you'll see a cinderblock building with a Zapata mural and a hand-painted sign that says "Garcia's" on your right.

Park there and walk around to the north side of the building. There's a wooden door that may or may not be closed. Usually, there's about 5 or 6 dudes hanging out there.

Tell them, "Buscando por la parranda de locos en Garcias."

Remember that.

Cut, paste, and print it out if you have to.

"Buscando por la parranda de locos en Garcias."

Let me know when you'll be there and we'll hook it up, dawg!

I'm looking forward to it.

Mao,

That sounds like a bastardization of a scene from Vacation.

Letusprey, I did everything manly and still screwed up badly. I did not shave or shower. I wore mismatched socks. I went to work surly.
But when I went to use the urinal at work, I discovered my underwear was on backwards and there was no pecker escape hatch.
So I had to find a stall and...sit....to...pee.
My friend later suggested I should have pulled out my buckknife and cut a pant-hole, a most manly idea. But I can just hear the folks at work: "Don't do it! No woman is that important!"

Had she not been caught, she would have received a check from Blogher for at least $10,000.

She also set up a p.o. box for "cards, etc.", but was sent baby gifts, cash and checks. The checks were cashed.

So far none of the news stories have gotten it right. She also ran adoption scams, pretendded to have a stillborn baby, lied in the Tribune article and said she was social worker...

She is a sociopath and also "talked to herself" on her blog using onlie profiles she set up to help corroborate her story.

She is a mess and I hope she is prosecuted, for the money if for nothing else.

If I want trouble I don't need to search for it. I'll just tell them Chingao tu madre putos. I used to rule Juarez. www.luxxor-massage.com

These ladies all loved me. Pinche Joto we can meet in Lardo and go have beers in Nuevo Laredo.

img5.imageshack.us

Pink Lady in Juarez has the best bitches on the planet.

Rasta, if a woman needs a mask you'd best go see Rosy Palm. This is your claim to ruling Juarez??? That massage parlor link is pathetic! You actually admit to paying for it as if that were an asset??
No wonder your other views are at the very least strange.

I used to get 2 ladies for 50 bucks there. I was a king.

Rosy Palm?

Diablo...up in these parts that is Miss Michigan (hold up your right hand with your palm facing you).

Fistina runs a distant second.

If that is true, I seriuosly hope you used double-thick condoms, or at the very least dipped your wick in Listerine, Jackass.

You can get two "ladies" for $50 in Newark NJ too. The public clinic will also arrange financing for your HIV drug array.
You are a loser. Sorry. I rarely call names on the Retort. But you, Rasta, are a loser.
I sincerely hope you get some mental help. No kidding. Please do.

why am I a loser? these women used the money to pay their bills and raise their children. I felt like I was contributing to a good cause.

Rasta, I mean this sincerely and really, really in a humanitarian way: patronizing prostitutes and thinking it is admirable is sick behavior. Okay?
I say before God, that was not meant to insult you. Please do me the favor of seeking out an objective third party professional opinion.
Please do not be insulted.

I also apologize for the "loser" comment. You must realize one of my very best friends was a lady in that business and no, I was not either a client or lover of hers. You ought to understand the side you do not see. They hate their "clients" and you are no exception.
It is really paying for hate, not love. I am sure any of the women who post here would back that assertion up, my friend.
Best to you. I mean no insult and am sorry if you took it that way.

Rasta

why am I a loser? these women used the money to pay their bills and raise their children. I felt like I was contributing to a good cause.

Posted by rastaninja at 2009-06-17 02:20 AM

Just want to jump in with my 2 cent analysis. You pay these hookers for their "services" and whatever they do with the money you pay them is what anyone does with money they earn "on the job" -- pay bills, feed their kids, etc. -- just like anyone else. You call it a "contribution" but it's not.

If you wanted to "contribute to a good cause" you would do just that -- "contribute" -- which means expecting nothing else in return and that includes sex for money paid. That's just you way of trying to justify to yourself using hookers.

But there will always be hookers who for a variety of reasons (lack of an education, etc.) will need to resort to the world's oldest profession to be able to pay their rent and feed their kids so that will never change.

The REAL question I feel you need to ask yourself is why you don't want to get emotionally involved with a woman. That's why many men prefer hookers. There are no expectations of any emotional ties or awkward questions of "Are you going to phone me later this week?" or "Are we going to see each other again?" It's purely a business transaction with no emotions attached. You need to ask yourself why you want an emotionless relationship.

When a prostitute makes her services available to you for a fee you are not obligated to give anything emotional of yourself and to them none are expected. That seems to be what you want and you need to ask yourself why. Were you emotionally hurt badly before by some girl?

Do you figure if you give nothing of yourself in the way of feelings (which is how it would work with only seeing hookers), then you would never be disappointed and/or hurt by a regular woman?

We all have had relationships where we have been hurt and in relationships where we have hurt others. That's life. But you can't run from it by seeing only women who would never mean anything to you emotionally and that seems to be what you are doing by only seeing prostitutes. Prostitutes allow you to set up a protective barrier around yourself -- allowing no emotions and/or love to ever get past it.

That old saying "Better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all" is telling you the hurt you may have a few times in your lovelife can be worth the pain when there will also be a chance in your future of experiencing the real joy of loving someone.

There are no guarantees you won't be hurt in the future but you'll never know about the highs you can get from having really been in love if you're too afraid to take a chance on having to also deal with the lows of a relationship that maybe won't work out. Give some regular girl a chance sometime -- one where you don't have to pay for her sexual favors and then never see her again. You should give yourself more credit. You'll find someone nice to marry and have kids with some day but not if you spend all your free time only with the "ladies of the evening."

Califchris? Do me a favor and tell him what the woman sees in the guy. That's the part men don't get. You aced the guy prob in your post, but most of us men never think of the gal side and need to hear that. Thank you.

Had she not been caught, she would have received a check from Blogher for at least $10,000.

She also set up a p.o. box for "cards, etc.", but was sent baby gifts, cash and checks. The checks were cashed.

So far none of the news stories have gotten it right. She also ran adoption scams, pretendded to have a stillborn baby, lied in the Tribune article and said she was social worker...

She is a sociopath and also "talked to herself" on her blog using onlie profiles she set up to help corroborate her story.

She is a mess and I hope she is prosecuted, for the money if for nothing else.

#80 | Posted by Mamasita

THIS.

Es muy bueno!

Be Well.

DIABLO

Mr. "put out or get out" Jackass/Rasta is a lost cause. Emotionally he's stuck in high school, so to speak, as far as women are concerned.

He's told us the story about how he was raised so it isn't hard to understand his psychological makeup when it comes to relationships. Knowing what we do, it's no small wonder that he has an arrested social development.

The "woman's side" is very far removed from Rasta's thought process. Non-existant, actually. He still refers to women as "broads" which is probably the way he honestly feels.

I find it difficult to fault Rasta for seeking out the services of a prostitute from time to time. Men in general will always prefer the feel of a woman over masturbation if given the opportunity, even if they have to pay for it.

I do fault him, however, for not stepping back and taking a good hard look at himself. Sometimes I'd like to reach through the screen and tell him to "read a book, for christ's sake."

When a man tells a woman to "put out or get out" on the third date (as in, if you don't this relationship is over) a woman automatically knows that this guy isn't interested in anything but sweating up the sheets . . . and she's more than happy to be rid of him. While guys like Rasta are congratulating themselves for throwing her to the curb (before he spends any more money on her), she's counting her lucky stars that she got rid of him that essy.

That's a concept that Rasta just doesn't understand (among many other things). His whole modus operandi is totally screwed up.

I wish him luck. I hope someday he reaches the mental maturity he needs. Right now, from what he tells us, his juvenile approach to women needs a lot of work.

I find woman to be emotionally needy. Really drives me nuts. I think that bothers me more than the gold diggers out there. Girls that just want money are ok because you give them what they want and they will leave you alone. I hate women that always pester you about wanting to spend more quality time with them. It would be alright if they talked about interesting stuff but generally they just want to talk about themselves.

It would be alright if they talked about interesting stuff but generally they just want to talk about themselves."

And a wise man listens politely.

When it comes to being needy, RASTA, keep in mind that you are the one with the throbbing penis.

As to your #95 . . . I don't believe a word you just said. It just sounds like a bunch of excuses you've made up to excuse yourself from taking responsibility. It boils down to your juvenile attitude . . . "It's all her fault!"

Somewhere under that horrible facade you put up, I think there's probably a fairly nice guy. But you're such a mass of complexes, you don't know how to put long term objectives ahead of short term goals (throbbing penis).

I am completely sympathetic with the fact that you grew up without any solid building blocks to guide you as you got older. Lord know a lot of people have been in that boat. . . both men and women.

Eventually, if you're smart, you'll start looking inward. Because that's where all the answers are.

If you're not smart, you'll continue along, making excuses and "pestering" other men on the Retort to meet up with you for a meaningless night of beer and frolic at the local whore houses. You are the one who is needy.

The choice is always yours RASTA. . . GOATMAN, MOOMAN and JAK aren't going to help you avoid the obvious.

You really need to buckle down and identify what's really wrong . . . and then take steps to fix it.

Debbil, there ARE no "pro-aborts," there's no "clinical killing" or carnage. If you suggest there are, you are indeed a liar. That's MY sincere view. herm

#53 | Posted by herm at 2009-06-16 11:04 PM | Reply | Flag: Living a life of delusions and fantasies

Rationalization is a wonderful thing - Hitler and most other tyranical dictators followed your reasoning on life HERM. Great club to be in.

Becca' gonna feel real scorn now. There is nothing like the hatred of the right, especially those forgiving x-trians!!

LM

Continuing on Cidney's Weird Wednesday, as begun on another thread, I see that the conscience of the fetal rights movement drags in Hitler right on schedule. herm

drags in Hitler right on schedule. herm

If the shoe fits BIZZARO!

"Rationalization is a wonderful thing - Hitler and most other tyranical dictators followed your reasoning on life HERM. Great club to be in."

I see cid is still gracing us with his heavyweight intellectual arguments.

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