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The city of Yekaterinburg may become known not only as the end of the road for the tsars but of American hegemony; where US U-2 pilot Gary Powers was shot down and the US-centered international financial order was brought down.

Challenging America is the prime focus of extended meetings in Yekaterinburg, Russia today for China, Russia and other top officials of the six-nation Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) comprised of Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrghyzstan and Uzbekistan, with observer status for Iran, India, Pakistan and Mongolia. It will be joined by Brazil for trade discussions among the BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India and China).
US diplomats may ask does this mean an end to US hegemony? What does a multi-polar world mean?. Yet the Yekaterinburg meeting has elicited only a yawn from the US & European press.

Shrub built on Clinton's legacy of driving Russia, China and their neighbors to find a way to replace the dollar which the US has used to run balance-of-payments deficits ad infinitum.

Overspending by U.S. consumers on imports in excess of exports, U.S. buy-outs of foreign companies and real estate, and the dollars that the Pentagon spends abroad all end up in foreign central banks. These banks then face a hard choice: either to recycle these dollars back to the United States by purchasing US Treasury bills, or to let the "free market" force up their currency relative to the dollar thereby pricing their exports out of world markets, creating domestic unemployment and business insolvency.
U.S."free markets" trap other countries in a system that forces them to hold dollars without limit. This system finances the Pentagon and US buyouts of foreign assets expected to yield much more than the Treasury bonds that foreign central banks hold.

The aim of this discussion is to create a reserve currency "that is disconnected from the USA.
China and Russia see the USA as a lawless nation, financially as well as militarily. How else to characterize a nation that proclaims a set of laws for others on war, debt repayment and treatment of prisoners but flouts them itself?

Foreigners see the IMF, World Bank and WTO as Washington surrogates in a financial system backed by 716 American military bases and aircraft carriers encircling the globe. US military power is muscle-bound, based more on atomic weaponry and long-distance air strikes than on ground operations, too politically unpopular to mount on any large scale.

There is no way the US can work off the $4 trillion it owes foreign governments, whose central banks and the sovereign wealth funds set up to dispose of the global dollar glut. America has become a militarily aggressive deadbeat, struggling to hold onto the immense power it once earned by economic means.

US officials wanted to attend the Yekaterinburg meeting as observers. They were told No. It is a word that Americans will hear much more in the future.

Excerpted from Michael Hudson @ Counterpunch

talk about ruining a good nooner...

Then there's the $684 trillion Wall Street derivatives market wrapped in privacy.

Diablo, if you're out there, I posted a response to your response to my response (whew!) in the thread entitled 'This Is What Losing Your Kidneys Looks Like.'
www.drudge.com

talk about ruining a good nooner...

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-15 12:11 PM

I agree, nanc. People should up a userblog for these lengthy political stories. The Nooner is suppose to be a clownhouse for insults and fun but lately it's getting to be all lengthy political discourse and it's boooooooring!

We have about 40 other threads for politics, etc.

On another topic --

SAY -- Where have MEMBER2586 and SOHIEFOX been lately?

Haven't seen either one around in awhile.

"SAY -- Where have MEMBER2586 and SOHIEFOX been lately?

Haven't seen either one around in awhile."

#5 | Posted by CalifChris

retort rehab with larry?

Newt Gingrich - Dickopedia

www.dickipedia.org

#5 | Posted by CalifChris

retort rehab with larry?

#6 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06

Say, that reminds me, KEITH204 hasn't had his "name this photo" contest lately (winner gets 2 weeks in retort rehab).

Maybe those two guys just needed a break. OR they've come back under another handle. Someday I'm going to do a "'fess up" thread so people can let us know if they've changed their name. (Or you can do it if you want lol) I wonder how many would "'fess up."

There are so many "new" names on DR lately who sure seem to know a lot about everyone on here for being a "new kid on the block." At least FREDO_C told us he is now "8 roper" (don't ask what his new name means -- trust me, you don't want to know lol!).

There are so many "new" names on DR lately who sure seem to know a lot about everyone on here for being a "new kid on the block." At least FREDO_C told us he is now "8 roper" (don't ask what his new name means -- trust me, you don't want to know lol!).

#8 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-06-15 12:27 PM |

C'mon Chris, he explained it when he changed it.

Something to do with a gag reflex.

Stay the Course

By PAUL KRUGMAN

"The debate over economic policy has taken a predictable yet ominous turn: the crisis seems to be easing, and a chorus of critics is already demanding that the Federal Reserve and the Obama administration abandon their rescue efforts. For those who know their history, it's dj vu all over again literally.

For this is the third time in history that a major economy has found itself in a liquidity trap, a situation in which interest-rate cuts, the conventional way to perk up the economy, have reached their limit. When this happens, unconventional measures are the only way to fight recession.

Yet such unconventional measures make the conventionally minded uncomfortable, and they keep pushing for a return to normalcy. In previous liquidity-trap episodes, policy makers gave in to these pressures far too soon, plunging the economy back into crisis. And if the critics have their way, we'll do the same thing this time."

"And Republicans, providing a bit of comic relief, are saying that the stimulus has failed, because the enabling legislation was passed four months ago wow, four whole months! yet unemployment is still rising. This suggests an interesting comparison with the economic record of Ronald Reagan, whose 1981 tax cut was followed by no less than 16 months of rising unemployment.

O.K., time for some reality checks....."
(more at link)

"To sum up: A few months ago the U.S. economy was in danger of falling into depression. Aggressive monetary policy and deficit spending have, for the time being, averted that danger. And suddenly critics are demanding that we call the whole thing off, and revert to business as usual."

www.nytimes.com

#8 | Posted by CalifChris

i saw - made me puke a little in my mouth. yes, i've noticed new names - i don't like people all that much so have paid them no nevermind. have you ever looked up "iraqibukake"? don't.

#10 | Posted by Corky

isn't the gray lady about to go belly up?

isn't the gray lady about to go belly up?

#12 | Posted by nanc

Whether you put out is totally up to you, dear.

SOHIEFOX was humiliated for posting his wedding photos. He tried to be hard but ended up crying like a schoolgirl.

C'mon, Tort! No anti-Christian articles are linked. Get on the ball.

NUTCASE

Nothing personal to you in particular in my #5 post. It was a general statement as a number of people on here do it -- write long political posts.

As a matter of fact, I learn a lot from some of your posts sometimes and had saved this post below in a file when you wrote it back in March --

Posted by nutcase at 2009-03-15 11:52 PM | Reply

It was an excellent explanation you had written to RightisRight about credit deriviatives and the financial problems we were going through at the time. You explained it so well (and made it easily understood) that I saved your answer.

#13 | Posted by Corky

i'm giving you an ff for that - why? because it's HIGHLARIOUS!

Don't forget, today is June 15th --

National Man Day

You all can drink a bunch of beer and grow a couple more hairs on your chest. lol

I thought it was national moon day.

www.cheeseplay.com

#19

Hooray for moonies!

#8 | Posted by CalifChris

i saw - made me puke a little in my mouth. yes, i've noticed new names - i don't like people all that much so have paid them no nevermind. have you ever looked up "iraqibukake"? don't.

#11 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-15 12:34 PM

No, always thought"iraqibukake" was just something about Iraq and some slang term about the women wearing burkas. Mever gave it much thought.

But you know now my curiosity is going to make me check it out in "Urban Dictionary" lol

Oh it's about women wearing something Chris.

However, I don't think you'd call a "burka"

nanc

You were right. GROSS

* call it a burka*

nanc

You were right. GROSS

#23 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-06-15 12:53 PM

LOL!

JerryT

It has nothing to do with women, in particular.

From Urban Dictionary

1. Iraqi Bukakke

Iraqi policemen, or just people in the street, frequently gather round a suicide bomber's body after the deed is done, forming a circle with each holding a camera phone at arms length to record the event for posterity. This is Iraqi Bukakke.


No shit.

Obama the arrogant douchebag. ....pisses all over our mother country and staunchest ally.

So much for hope and change.

So much for "improving America's standing" in the world.

Tell me, libbies - this is Bush's fault... how????

www.independent.co.uk

In a related story - corky is sporting wood because the chinese muslim uighers got treated to a dish of ice cream.

England is NOT my mother country.

SOHIEFOX was humiliated for posting his wedding photos. He tried to be hard but ended up crying like a schoolgirl.
#14 | Posted by rastaninja

My favorite Sohe comment on that thread was about how his wife "has no hangups in the sack."

(yeah, its burned into my memory)

I couldn't believe he had the nerve to say that. Last time I bragged about stuff like that was when I started dating my wife.

He never came back after his last suspension, did he?

England is NOT my mother country.

#29 | Posted by Diablo

So good for you!

what's your point ????

Is your point that because Obama decided to take a dump on our relationship with England, well fuck England anyways? Cuz obama says so? Its not the mother country anymore, cuz obama made it his personal toilet?

I don't get it.

England is the mother country of the USA.

Are you not a citizen of the USA?

That is fine with me, but why the fuck chime in just to point thout that you are not a U.S. citizen , if that is the case????

Proceed to fuck yourself.

Oh it's about women wearing something Chris.

However, I don't think you'd call a "burka"

#22 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-06-15 12


Then, after you've been proven your perceived definition of "iraqiburkake" was wrong -- and really had nothing to do with women in particular -- you lamely tried to save face with:
No shit.

#27 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-06-15 12:56 PM


As if you knew what I wrote was the definition all along!

But now it's time for my second cup of coffee. And you, poor thing, have been put through enough humiliation for now this morning. I'll give you time to recover what's left of your pride and to lick your wounds until it's time for your second verbal beating. LOL

England is the mother country of the USA

So who did the deed back in the day?

the Shoeifox wedding thread -

it took about 3 hours after they were posted for anyone to venture near talking about the pics of his wife -
we started out as treal timid pussies, then all hell broke loose.
I didn't check back into the threas much past early afternoon ....
but last I knew he was taking the heat OK.
Guess I mised a breakdown !

As if you knew what I wrote was the definition all along.

Look up the definition of "bukakke" Chris and we'll tlak later.

it took about 3 hours after they were posted for anyone to venture near talking about the pics of his wife -
we started out as treal timid pussies, then all hell broke loose.
I didn't check back into the threas much past early afternoon ....
but last I knew he was taking the heat OK.
Guess I mised a breakdown !
#34 | Posted by 8roper

It was definitely one of the more entertaining threads in DR history (sorry, sohe, if you're out there lurking).

Yeah, I checked out the album and thought to myself that it couldn't possibly be for real, and if it was that there was no way on earth I was going to say anything.

I think I may have posted a "no comment."

In a related story - corky is sporting wood because the chinese muslim uighers got treated to a dish of ice cream.

#28 | Posted by 8roper

I know it is difficult for you, but if you could just get your mind off of my cock for thirty seconds, your acne might clear up.

My favorite Sohe comment on that thread was about how his wife "has no hangups in the sack."

Posted by Hagbard_Celine

With a mug like hers, I would hope not...

With a mug like hers, I would hope not...
#38 | Posted by wisgod

You play the cards you're dealt, I guess.

You play the cards you're dealt, I guess.

#39 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

And it appears there wasn't a dentist at the card table.

And it appears there wasn't a dentist at the card table.
#40 | Posted by wisgod

That mierda was just wrong.

(Guiltily LMAO)

I know it is difficult for you, but if you could just get your mind off of my cock for thirty seconds, your acne might clear up.

#37 | Posted by Corky

that's all ya got?

thoughts of your cock cause acne?
That is just fuckin WIERD

I expect better from you, however it is only Monday

definition "bukake": www.google.com

5roper: www.jangalang.com

sohe was a very fairminded person. hopefully everyone finds the beauty in their spouses.

I'd be lucky to squeeze out a 2 roper.

and I'd have to be on about 8 valiums.

and crystal meth.

nanc he was weak. You can either take the pain or you can't.

That might be Nanc, but he was foolish to post wedding pictures on this site.

sohe was a very fairminded person. hopefully everyone finds the beauty in their spouses.
#45 | Posted by nanc

Of course, but most don't go out of their way to post pictures of them to a group of strangers... unless they've got some sort of fetish for things like that.

I also remember the time he posted how he walked over and grabbed her breast and bragged about it.

Look up the definition of "bukakke" Chris and we'll talk later.

#35 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-06-15 01:29 PM

I just looked up "bukakke" (leaving off the "iraqi" portion) in Urban Dictionary.

Now I see what you meant.

No further need to talk about it.

#48 | Posted by wisgod

agreed, but perhaps he thought everyone would be as happy for him as he was for himself. i hope he and his bride are having a wondy life together.

#51 | Posted by CalifChris

bukake-bukake-bukake! 'NUFF SAID!

Sohei was here for a LONG time after he posted the wedding photos. I don't know what finally drove him away.

He is broke they aren't having a great life together. His old lady is probably cheating on him already.

#55 | Posted by rastaninja

yeah, we should look at the bright side.

He is broke they aren't having a great life together. His old lady is probably cheating on him already.

#55 | Posted by rastaninja

Maybe she ran off with the town Dentist...Dr. Yankum.

I don't know what finally drove him away.
#54 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

I don't think he ever came back after his last suspension.

shall we have a cyber funeral of sorts?

how does one find that old thread -
is there some archive search utility here?

si.

left column - front page - search drudge.com or the web.

start here:

www.drudge.com

www.drudge.com

Did a search for hangups in the sack.

Nancy, as I recall, really you can't ruin a REALLY good nooner. But then I suppose that most of your nooners do not involve having to think. herm

#64 | Posted by herm

there goes stephen hawking's hard on.

MSNBC must really be hurting for money. They now have pop-up advertising windows like Netflicks and other annoying companies.

The address bar read " //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/ 3021776/vp/302..." Some destination get-a-way site.

si.

left column - front page - search drudge.com or the web.

#61 | Posted by nanc

Very cool.
I went and pulled up one of my all-time faves:

dethspud my friend you are obviously caught up in your own silly little myopia..... it is a fantasy world bred and enriched by your pathetic egotism and hopeless narcissism. no doubt you have amassed many sorrowful failures in your life. perhaps have lost jobs, ruined romantic relationships, maybe even have been prosecuted as a felon. I know you do not have any friends; save for the occasional illusion of appreciation tossed to you by the crackpot liberals on this tiny website, maybe an occasional "nice going dethspud" or some other meaningless small pat on the back sent as infinitesimal keystroke generated "1"s and "0"s cascading thru fiber optic cables at light speed..on their way to nowhere...nowhere that anyone will remember or care about. this is your life in sum total. meaningless. perfectly and purely of no value. Your words that are typed are all a curious and ugly tradgedy. what is sadder is that you might possibly believe you speak to an objective truth. you will never be recognized by any real person in the real world. You will continue in your little solitary kingdom - a shimmering cold lonely LCD screen, most likely the only pale blue light in a rat infested basement apartment...i suppose empty Cheetohs bags strewn around....until you pass away with noone remembering you.

Posted by santino_c at 2008-03-14 07:17 PM | Reply |

Al Gore, Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama die and stand before God.

God addresses Al first.

''Al, what do you believe in?''

Al replies: "Well, I believe that I won that election, but that it was your will that I did not serve. And I've come to understand that now.''

God thinks for a second and says:

"Very good. Come and sit at my left.''

God then addresses Bill.

"Bill, what do you believe in?''

He replies: "I believe in forgiveness.
I've sinned, but I've never held a grudge against my fellow man, and I hope no grudges are held against me.''

God thinks for a second and says: "You are forgiven, my son. Come and sit at my right.''

Then God addresses Barrack.

"Barrack, what do you believe in?''

He replies: "I believe you're in my chair."

Lloyds Bank hit by Obama tax purge
Banking group drops American customers in UK ahead of costly proposals to stamp out tax evasion

On to Switzerland

Just looked up the "b" word. Isn't there something better to do with our time? That is gross.

keith - i only looked it up awhile back because it sounded strangely like a greek dish and i wondered what iraqi and greek food had to do with each other. and then i remembered this joke:

a greek and a roman were arguing over their adventures in the lovemaking department - the greek spouted off, "we greeks introduced lovemaking to the world!" the roman replied, "ahhhhh, but WE introduced it to women."

check this site out to see if there are any homes for sale in your area:

www.cyberhomes.com


NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY

VERY interesting read. Remember, written in 1971.

#73 | Posted by badjuju

It's on my list to read over the summer.

Where are the Sonia Sotomayor posts?

I was amused when someone posted a comment.

1) Sonia makes racist statements.
2) Sonia makes racist decisions.

Note that Sonia is a racist and have members of the lockstep left, who are ex officio racists declare that you are a racist for noting what Sonia says and does.

What is mind-boggling is that the lockstep leftist is seemingly oblivious to the fact that his defense of Sonia is based entirely on her "ethnicity" as instead of addressing her statements and actions, his "defense" is actuated by her ethnicity.

Of course, there is the gratuitous insertion of fascist and Nazi by leftists, who are unaware what either word connotes except that they are aware the words have negative semantic associations.

And to think that early on, the leftists were praising Mussolini and Hitler. The NY Times had some commendable characteristics that it recognized in Hitler.

By the way, some of you might be amused by visiting some Sturmer posts, the splinter group of Nazis that discusses beliefs. There was a discussion regarding whether David Letterman is a Jew. (He isn't.) But some of the posters there decided that he was necessarily a Jew because "David" is a Jewish name. Then some other poster noted that David Duke was not Jewish, so that "David" was not inevitably a Jewish name.

The "proofs" and reasoning on those blogs are surprisingly similar to those of the lockstep left except that different groups are disparaged.

By the way, the tabloids are beginning to take whacks at the Obama myths, attacking none other than the spouse as a racist, a liar, and bitchy.

One of the misrepresentations is that she was "poor." Her father was some kind of maintenance engineer, then earning what was a munificent salary of $40,000 per year, the equivalent of some $75,000 nowadays, and the mother was by choice a stay at home housewife. Ah, the struggle. The family lived in a middle class house in a middle class neighborhood.

Why does the left try to create these "risen up from poverty" myths as if some entitlement should attach to that?

A pitch for Sonia is that her family was impoverished. Wasn't her mother an RN? If you are not a Gates or a Buffett, I suppose that you are financially underprivileged. Being middle-class is being impoverished. But Obama's programs will change all of that. Being in the class or "rich," will nevertheless leave you needy as the wealth produced by this nation is reduced by programs and transfers.

As for the racism of the spouse. She said so, of course, and also projected her hostility and discomfort when among people of another race who were most friendly and welcoming and supportive to her, on to them. Robinson/Obama was the one who had all the negative feelings and they weren't attributable to extraneous matters. They were her feelings generated despite an environment where she could have reciprocated the warmth shown to her. And remember that she wrote that she would always give preference to black people. Well, you folks seem to approve of that stance.

www.usnews.com

Sotomayor recounted how one day her mother sat her kids down and asked for their help in sending her back to school to become not just a licensed practical nurse, but a registered nurse who could make more money.

Celina Sotomayor persevered, and soon she found a husband and a new life in the Bronx, where she began working at Prospect Hospital as a telephone operator and later a registered nurse.

... Sonia Sotomayor's mother - who singlehandedly raised her two housing project ... Celina, as an R.N., became the emergency room supervisor at ...

Impoverished indeed. What a crock of shit.

talk about ruining a good nooner...

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009

HEY I JUST GOT HERE>>LOL

BUT SINCE IM HERE

tobacco now under FDA...okay we knew that but did you know that its shown that 75% of all black smokers smoke menthol cigs....and the odds are good that obama smokes menthol...just a good guess

well in this bill they are doing away with lites and such

HOWEVER>>>>one kind they did NOT DO AWAY WITH,.

any guesses as to which flavor was left off the DO AWAY LIST>

you get three guesses and the first two dont count

AND I may not have time to get to all of it but here is a name that will aid us in making obama a onendone pred

Gerald Wolpin

onendone preSSS...

he is the man who was just fired as inspector looking into bud of barry's and BHO BROKE A LAW THAT HE co sponsored

details to come

Walpin-Gate

www.drudge.com

"Is your point that because Obama decided to take a dump on our relationship with England, well fuck England anyways? Cuz obama says so? Its not the mother country anymore, cuz obama made it his personal toilet?"

Is it really sooo important to you? I happen to think we fought a revolution and a second bloody war afterwards with England so I, for one, do not think it is my "mother country." If you want to think I am somehow apologizing for Obama, that is a stretch considering I have criticized him on a few points right here at the retort!
Some people take politics way too seriously.

Nancy, as I recall, really you can't ruin a REALLY good nooner. But then I suppose that most of your nooners do not involve having to think. herm

#64 | Posted by herm at 2009-06-15 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nope, no thinking....just a bunch of awkward groaning and half-glances, then the pizza delivery boy leaves with a more substantial "tip"...

Health care, the Brit's way, according to one observer.

She says:

Excerpt:

True, much IVF work is done privately. But given all these concerns, the question is whether it should be funded by the taxpayer at all.

That may sound harsh for those who do have IVF children on the NHS. But in a service with finite resources and where provision is always rationed in one way or another, choices inevitably have to be made about what the NHS should provide and what it should not.

After all, the NHS is a health service, not a happiness service. So where should the line be drawn? At what point does clinical need turn into what I want' instead?

Is it right, for example, that the NHS should pay for gender reassignment or gastric band operations for those who cannot or will not lose weight by conventional means?

Such questions are especially acute now. For despite the attempt by Gordon Brown to pretend that the Government will not make cuts in public services, it is clear that this is indeed the case.

As the respected Institute For Fiscal Studies has pointed out, the Government's own spending plans envisage that from 2011 there will be cuts of around 7 per cent over three years.

Remarkably, Mr Brown is brazenly denying these statistics even though his own Government has produced them. He is doing so because he thinks that tarnishing the Tories with plans to cut public services such as health and education is one of the biggest weapons in his electoral armoury.

So he will challenge them to say whether they will cut teachers or nurses, or to spell out what NHS treatments they will stop funding.

But this tactic is not only cynical and dishonest: it is fatuous. Asking what public services either Labour or the Tories would cut is to pose the wrong question.

That's because central government should not be making such decisions in the first place. It is wrong for a politician or some Whitehall bean-counter to say people can't have IVF or the latest drug to combat Alzheimer's.

Obama is a miuserable creep, who lives in lala land. The cost of Bermuda supporting those four Uighur terrorists who were planning to kill Chinese, supporting them in their plush dwelling with food and cooks and help, and what have you is $280,000,000. For the innumerate, that's 280 million dollars of American taxpayers' money. I usually grouse about taxes, but remember what I've received. This however, is an outrage under any circumstances. The man is a profligate and without any attachment to reality. He can plead insanity as an ambulatory schizophrenic. To have such a sick individual in the position he holds poses a danger to all of us. And what a provident use of $280 million. What will it cost to dispose of all of the Guantanamo inmates. Executing them would have been far cheaper.

We protect terrorists, not releasing them to countries in which they wanted to do harm, and yet we solicit cooperation from other countries in securing terrorists wanting to do harm to us.

Let's see, there are some 245 terrorists in Gitmo. I certainly hope that the U.S. can make disposition of the others for less than $7 million apiece. Gosh, that would come to more than $17 billion. What a provident use of taxpayers' money. But then, Obama is so detached from reality that he's in a perpetual dissociated state. Heaven (or whoever's assistance secularists can solicit) help us. In the meantime, give his lots of smokes, which may ease his symptoms.

Let's see, he's the first mulatto President, the first bastard President, and quite possibly the first President who is certifiably insane.

Good grief, $280 million for luxury living for four. And what about the other 17 to be released to Palau for only $200 million. What a bargain.

There don't seem to be any restraints on this loony toon as somewhere, somehow, he's found money for this. Maybe the source of funds should be lefties who want these prisoners released, a voluntary public subscription rather than charging the taxpayers. After all, some of the prisoners heretofore releqased have returned to their jihad. One even killed himself as a suicide bomber in Mosul. How many others did he take with him? The8ir blood is on the hands of the Americans who released him. I think it was Bush's watch. But homeboy can go Bush many better. The people who ordered the release of the Islamics who returned to terrorism, should be incarcerated for life for the terrorists' crimes committed after release.

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