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Monday, June 15, 2009

Vice President Joe Biden told Meet the Press Sunday that "everyone guessed wrong" on the impact of the stimulus and the economy was worse off than anyone thought. He backed away from the estimate that the funds could create or save 3.5 million jobs, instead promising 600,000 by the end of the summer.

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let's hope he's speaking from his hind end. as usual.

600,000 - ruh? isn't that how many jobs a week which have been lost since this guy and his cronies took over?

Golly Gee, Nance!!!! Did reading that big article hurt your poor brain?

45 words!!! What a massive tome for a poor Rtard to have to read? And the effort it must have taken to comprehend all the multisylabic words, too!!!!

Poor little thing, you better go have a nice little nap and recover.

"Biden Tells Meet the Press Stimulus Wrong"

Actually, the link says: "Biden tells 'Meet the Press' that 'everyone guessed wrong' on the impact of the stimulus, economy was worse off than anyone thought," not that the stiumuls is wrong, as your misleading headline has it.

I realize you're stuck in a faith-based reality somewhere in a not-quite-paralell universe where if you keep chanting distortions and lies you probably believe they'll come true, but this headline -- judging by the text to which it's link -- is over the top, even by your elasticized standards of what constitutes verifiable truth.

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-14 02:41 PM | Reply | Flag

I was going to say--You Can't be that stupid----but then I thought about it. I'm sure you are that stupid. Just out of curiousity---what do you think Obama did to have had all those job losses be attributed to him? Do you think employers fired their employees because Obama was President? You are funny---except you vote--very sad. Proof this country is not perfect.

how many of you "think" there'll even be 600,000 jobs created by next year at this time? and no, that doesn't count all the ones they've created to lord over the rest of u.s. - the czars and irs employees to mention nearly a thousand.

"No one realized how bad the economy was. The projections, in fact, turned out to be worse. But we took the mainstream model as to what we thought -- and everyone else thought -- the unemployment rate would be."

then HOW do you know you're doing the correct thing FOR THE PEOPLE?

"Everyone guessed wrong at the time the estimate was made about what the state of the economy was at the moment this was passed."

duh!

"The bottom line is that jobs are being created that would not have been there before."

TA-DA!

"Can I claim credit that all of that's due to the recovery package? No. But it clearly has had an impact."

WHAT CREDIT - WHAT IMPACT?

cut n paste nanc.

emphasis mine

THEY GUESSED AT EVERYTHING! BWAAAAAAAHAHAHA!

Would things have been that much different if we did not spend Trillions of dollars?

In the end Obama and the Dems will do far more damage than Bush and the Repubs.

Nanc, you have proven that you really are as stupid as Murphy and Rusty Ballsack.

You still have a way to go to catch up with Snippy and Goatsy, but you are really trying hard.

#12 | Posted by axe at 2009-06-14 06:12 PM | Reply | Flag:party hack - cannot accept failure!

what do you think Obama did to have had all those job losses be attributed to him?
Do you think employers fired their employees because Obama was President?
#5 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

ummm . . . that would be "laid off" - -
but back O's 5 month track record

a) nationalizing banks

b) nationalizing manufacturing

c) nationalizing health care

d) killingVegas

e) killing Cessna

f) killing oil production

g) nuclear energy for Iran, but none for America

h) re-wrote contract law

i) killing coal

j) spent 10 trillion (over 10 yrs)

k) tells CNN America is out of money . . .then proposes 4 trillion more in programs

gee . . my finger is getting tired & my head hurts

Biden at least partially admitted the truth. Which part you say, well the one where he admits "everyone guessed wrong">/B>. Well it doesn't take a scientist to figure out that the shit they have been doing ain't gonna work. Of course it was never intended to work but just to get control.

my finger is getting tired
#14 | Posted by markh

pull it out of your ass

l) 8000 auto dealers closed

m) campaign promise "NOT ONE DIME OF NEW TAX" on middle class

n) NO to - "drill baby drill" ... YES to tune-ups & tire inflation

o) promises energy independence -

p) oil prices double - - by definition from previous admin, he's in bed with big oil

perhaps we'll get some new guessers in 2010

my finger is getting tired
#14 | Posted by markh

pull it out of your ass

#16 | Posted by bruceaz
Intentional double post

pull it out of your ass

#16 | Posted by bruceaz
Intentional double post

maybe ya can cut & paste from some "talking points" source and semi contribute to DR discussions sometimes . . . a grade school relative can guide ya thru it

"We were wrong about the economy. We were wrong about the stimulus. We were wrong about Gitmo. We're not doing shit about it now. Say, did you hear about Palin's daughter? That little slut!"

--Hope & Change Crew

seems to me they need to create a crisis where biden's sent to the bunker for an unspecified amount of time - feed him some fake news.

what a joke. "Everyone" guessed?

Like hell they did. was it a "guess" when some poined out that despite the stimulus money, the carmakers are going into bankruptcy anyway?

hell no.

Let's look at it another way. For those of you who pointed out that going into Iraq was going to be a mistake, will you accept that you "guessed" right? That your position was a "guess"?

I didn't think so.

here's a link to a lengthier article:

www.foxnews.com

Anyone who buys into the "saved" jobs is a fool. There is no way to calculate that.

perhaps they should just start calling these new 600,000 per week job losses "downsizing".

#26 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-15 12:01 PM | Reply | Flag: Never could count

'Everyone' did not guess wrong as the finance people I follow were never in line with the administration's 'guesses'.

He should have just said Everyone In the Obama Administration.

I realize you're stuck in a faith-based reality somewhere in a not-quite-paralell universe

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-06-14 02:49 PM

Speaking of faith-based reality, sounds like Biden, Obama, and their O'tarded supporters were in one when they guesstimated 3.5 millions saved or created.

it IS a far cry from 600,000.

Speaking of Biden and the stimulus, apparently they hauled out construction equipment and crews for a photo op when Biden was in Kansas City. At the end of the session all equipment and crews left.

"Tax dollars for props for Biden's visit to Overland Park? Wasteful spending for Biden to avoid?"

kansasmeadowlark.com

This whole administration is just a phony show out to scam the citizens of the U.S. People are not to be alerted as to what is really happening.

the ex-lax bill isn't creating ANY jobs.

Everyone guessed wrong?

Hardly.

More like everyone knew the stimulus wouldn't stimulate anything - except for more growth in government.

Bernanke and Paulson knew exactly what they were doing. First Bernanke extracted $100 billion from bank circulation, 10 days before he ran to Congress and declared a "credit crisis". Congress rolled over. They are making foriegn lenders subjected to US fraud whole, at the expense of innocent taxpayers. The fraudsters are being provided endless opportunities in oil, stock & currency speculation with special tax loopholes to make taxpayers pick up the tab for everything.

Wall Street is Bugs Bunny and US citizens are Elmer Fudd. Its hilarious.

I hate to say it? I miss Bush.

the Stimulingus package was suppose to be for "shovel-ready" projects.
Now we see the only thing being "shoveled" is the BS from Obama/Biden to cover up this lie.
However, Obama's people have been "shoveling" that $800 billion into their own pockets.

Biden is like Obama's own ground hog - he sticks his head out once every six weeks, says something stupid, then goes back into hibernation for another 6 weeks.

Sure, let's throw another $600+ billion at these "Laurel and Hardy" and see what they can do with that.

STITCH!

is that you, rnv? it's okay if you've switched sides.

STITCH!

#36 | Posted by stitch76 at 2009-06-15 04:26 PM

YEAH!

And who is to say that if ANY jobs are created, that the money these people make over what they are scraping by on now will not go into savings.. people have had the hell scared out of them about spending... we have to create government jobs as too many businesses have gone under and those jobs plus what still goes offshore will never be replaced... our economy is evolving more than just creating jobs..we are losing entire industries..!! and, they are in no position to really measure these numbers...
only until we see the banks step up and start pumping money back into the economy will we see progress...all this other BS from the 'BS Master' is of no substance..

Some article he missed Axe. I guess he missed this part "Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday that "everyone guessed wrong" on the impact of the economic stimulus, but he defended the administration's spending designed to combat rising joblessness." o the only ones who got it wrong were ALL the dems who jammed 1.3 trillion dollars of gov spending through. WELL than goodness at least we have big government!!!!!!

Yeah it's bad but idiots like you axe call it a depression.

and obamas going to reduce your health ins.cost and insure 47,000,000 people and increase medicaid spending all at the same time and it will be deficit neutral.the man is truly the pied piper.

biden always talks out obama's ass, there are no new jobs, Americans are finally taking jobs that Americans did'nt want, when your hungry, you go to work.

How any politican or supposed master of finance can say no one knew with a straight face is nothing short of amazing.

Young naive people might be able to swallow such bullshit but anyone that's been around and paying attention won't.

As soon as they started handing out houses, cars, tv's, furniture etc.etc. with nothing down and nothing to lose we knew the party was over and was long past due to be so.

Get a 250,000 mortgage for 450 dollars a month.

5th graders can calculate that impossibility. Hence, from this point forward we know politicians and public masters of finance are NOT as smart as a 5th grader.

There is no such thing as something for nothing. Get that thru your thick skulls, sluggards.

When you elect people that have never run anything but their mouth these times are what you get.

We'd all be better off if nobody had insurance. You'd be able to buy it for what it's worth not what the smoke and mirrors show it's worth.

What was wrong was bundling a shit load of pork and calling it stimulus. What was wrong was not reading the entire bill and rushing congress to sign it real fast. That was wrong.

Guessed wrong? How is it, that I'm just a regular everyday guy and I KNEW that the stimulus would not work? And now Biden says they guessed. What a fucking joke this is. I'd say when you're talking trillions of dollars there should be a little bit more than just fucking guessing going on. And you libs still don't see what sort of idiots you elected. Haven't seen a negative word about them on this thread. Or any thread for that matter. Hacks.

The number of people unemployed has increased 4,035,000 since the election in November or roughly 576,000 per month. Biden, Obama and their ship of fools have done NOTHING to help this economy. The only thing they have done is move the United States closer to socialism.

BLS

I think this honesty is refreshing. It is better than simply stating "Everything is Great, Now Watch This Tee Shot."

I've got an idea. Let's extort more money from people than a product is worth, then, if they're compelled to sit down and fill out multiple forms and send them in we'll rebate them some money. It'll keep the postperson busy and provide something for single mothers to do administrating it.

Then we can make some new law that if you don't have your sunshade in the down position while driving east between the hours of 5 am and 11 am you'll be given a ticket based on the suns relation to the horizon. That should employ several thousand new policepersons, judges, baliffs and court stenographers.

Then we can start a biggest loser program for pre k and 1 thru 6 grade school children. That should free the single moms up to administer the rebate programs and employ several thousand nutritionists and child psycologists to work with little (oops heavy) tykes.

The possibilities are seemingly endless.

Give us your children (or we'll take them by force) and we'll change the world.

Biden reminds me of my youngest son. Says exactly what's on his mind and can't keep a secret. Waits until he's in front of a crowd and says the last thing you would want him to say...corse he's four....

"corse(sic) he's four.... "

Posted by STIRSUMUP at 2009-06-15 07:49 PM

So what's your excuse?

cut n paste nanc.

#8 | Posted by jerrytarkanian

Damn, that is a strong arguement against her but you left out calling her some stupid name.

"everyone guessed wrong" on the impact of the stimulus and the economy was worse off than anyone thought."

Clueless in DC

#50 | Posted by STIRSUMUP

FF

#34 | Posted by nutcase

On the very day that the 787 bailout was passed--Bernanke printed and distributed 650 billion into the financial system.

The very same day.

the key word here is "enough" - how many is enough? apparently negative four million-plus and counting. NO jobs have been created.

Biden always sounds like a Bob and Ray skit. When is this guy going to learn about judicious silence??

Biden is claiming that nobody knew it wouldn't work. That's not true. The complaints were loud and long. It's only those within their incestuous thought circle that give themselves atta-boys on their brilliance who didn't know. And they're so loud and arrogant, they don't hear anyone else. Their policies are the prelude to economic and social disaster.

I'm sure we'll hear Biden's "Guessed Wrong" many more times in the next few years. And just think- this asshole is second in line for the Presidency. They'll continue to "Guess wrong" for a few more years and then perhaps we'll wise up and elect a grown up with experience.

and joe is the smart one in this administration!

they really need to get him familiar with his bunker.

"everyone guessed wrong"

no shit..you THINK??????

Next headline to read: "OBAMA Health Care program making people sick"

All you need to know about yet another Obama bullshit press announcement about 600,000 jobs which includes 125,000 temp jobs:

"President Obama pledged Monday to pump stimulus money into the economy over the next several months as part of a plan to create or save more than 600,000 jobs this summer, though the administration admits that at least 125,000 of those jobs are temporary."

"But asked whether these jobs are sustainable, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs conceded student jobs aren't permanent.

"You want me to concede that a summer job won't be here in the fall? Yeah, I concede that," he said.

www.foxnews.com

125,000 of those jobs are labeled "summer youth jobs"

125,000 of those jobs are labeled "summer youth jobs"

#64 | Posted by utastaff

In my area they are all Russian students, mostly girls.

I got a guess on who killed the Economy: It was Obama, in the White House, with the pen.

#66

Historical revisionist. Or, hysterical revisionist, more like.

Nanc is too lazy to even work she should have no say in this

Nanc is too lazy to even work she should have no say in this

#68 | Posted by rastaninja

You want to support a bill to take away the voting rights of people who don't work? I know, you can base it on income tax payers.

As a previous poster said, the Obama administration's policies are killing our economy. I believe the American people are smart enough to realize which party is responsible for perpetuating this mess, and they will be held to account in the midterms.

"I believe the American people are smart enough to realize which party is responsible for perpetuating this mess,"

They are smart enough. That's why they voted against the rtards last November. Too bad for you, dumbshit.

to me it's astounding that with all the resources at our fingertips that some still refuse to think for themselves . .

remember - - about 30% (many of which were acorn) had no basic knowledge of whom they were even voting for . .
and . . half again of those couldn't find America on a globe

sadly . . . many of that group also seem to post frequently on D-Report

ouch

"They are smart enough. That's why they voted against the rtards last November. Too bad for you, dumbshit."

#71 | Posted by nullifidian

You couldn't be more wrong. Obama's election is the best thing that could have ever happened for the Republican party.

You couldn't be more wrong. Obama's election is the best thing that could have ever happened for the Republican party.

#73 | Posted by Republican4ever

AMEN!

Well, let's hope the Republican Party continues to reap in the benefits via further landslide losses in 2010 and 2012. LOL

Sadly, our country will suffer during Obama's term, but we've recovered from bad Presidents in the past. Can you say Jimmy Carter?

Jimmy Carter was a great president. It was Reagan who fucked everything up. And we still haven't recovered.

wonder if joe even knows the difference between "enough" and "none"?

>>Jimmy Carter was a great president.
>>It was Reagan who fucked everything
>>up. And we still haven't recovered.

Delusional. Completely, Unbelievably Delusional.

Jimmy Carter was arguably the most incapable, ineffective president we have ever had. Well, until now.

joe and his wife during a lovemaking session:

joe: have you had enough?

mrs. joe: oh, you already started?

nanc and her husband during a love making session:

nanc: that feels great

Mr nanc: buuuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

=P

well it may not be working in some places but THANK GOD that the turtles will have a way to cross the road and it only cost 3 million

and I am SO RELIEVED that MURTHA AIRPORT got its almost million since those 20 something people at WEEK can get to DC on time..

and isnt it wonderfull that we spent a quarter of a million for a bridge in stevens point Wisconsin ...
if it wasnt for this bridge people would have to drive around to get to the ONE PLACE IT goes to
a BAR...(well okay maybe that IS money well spent)

AND THE piece d resistance..(SP)

BLESS YOU DEMS for giving TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO 10,000 people who can really use it

EXCEPT THAT THEY ARE DEAD.....

more bullshit from the fuckin liar

nanc and her husband during a lovemaking session

Mr. Nanc: Get me a beer bitch.

Nanc: yes dear.

#83
Mine was better =P

nanc and her husband during a lovemaking session.

Mr. Nanc: oooh baby, oooh baby, that feels so good, mmmm, yeah

Nanc: I wonder when Mr. Nanc is gettng back from his fishing trip.

you must admit - joe doesn't know the difference between "enough" and "zilch".

...and...before Paulson asked Congress fir monay he shoveled $855 billion to his partners in crime.

The more you find out the worse it looks.

Nobody knows where the Unemployment will top out... at the rate we are going ie... 600,000 jobs lost a month, it would seem the package was a complete waste of tax dollars.

I would guess it will max out at 14 1/2% maybe 15% before we see the end.

The dow should hit 6000 before it's over.

Can't really blame Obama. Blame all the six sigma execs walking around and destroying corporate America. They stole the money from the working man...

At my company the six sigma guru had an idea.... We took a ten% pay cut, lost all vacation days and paid holidays.... That saved them some money I bet and he got a raise no doubt..

Problem there is most of corporate america has followed this template and the worker is so squeezed at this point that they are very unhappy and not productive.

Watch for the flameout folks...

SIX Sigma = Bad

Haven't met a six sigma black belt that I liked yet.... Mostely backstabbing whores bent on their own advancement at any cost.

"Damn the torpedoes boys..... We're doin just fine!"

I read GM is gonna start their recovery with the reopening of the Viper Factory!!!!!

Yea that will save them... We all need a $60,000 car that gets shit for mileage at $5.00 per Gal.

Friggin Retards!

The bottom line here is, To many companies are run today by lawyers... Wise ass lawyers who think they can maximize profit at our expense and stay in the black...

Idiots!

I read GM is gonna start their recovery with the reopening of the Viper Factory!!!!!

You can't make this shit up....GM.....Viper??????

Ooops.......Dodge!!!!!!

Idiots!

LOL!!

excuse me but this is what I meant,...

jalopnik.com

I mispoke when I stated GM

It is still a complete waste of time...

Go buy a viper dude...

You missed the point totally as useual Moneywar...

I missed nothing, even showed just how far off the reservation your posting are truely.

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