Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Saturday, June 13, 2009

Thousands of people clashed with police Saturday after the disputed election victory of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sparked the biggest protests in Tehran since the 1979 Islamic revolution. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told Iranians to respect Ahmadinejad's victory in an presidential election that his closest challenger Mirhossein Mousavi described as a "dangerous charade."

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So much for the Cairo speech changing--well--anything.

did you notice the lefturds are in cahoots to ignore those of u.s. on the right? BWAH! imagine if we all disappeared for a day or two.

Mousavi wouldn't be much of a upgrade from Ahmadumass, but at least he would be sligthly more sane.

Without a doubt this 'election' is a total sham that is controlled by the Mullahs.

BWAH! imagine if we all disappeared for a day or two.

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-12 11:55 PM |

The election in Iran probably is fixed.. but surely that doesn't surprise anyone. Iran is controlled by the Islamic Leaders, and has been since the Shah was overthrown.

The interesting thing to me, is had the challenger been declared the winner, the White House was prepared to claim that it was because of Obama the Holy One's speech in Egypt.

I think now, the claim has been changed to say that "spirited debate" took place in Iran, due of course, to Obama's great teleprompter reading in Egypt.

It's getting raucous over there. The sea of green (according to their Gov't) lost 2:1. The leaders of the Iran "get out the vote" are scared they'll be rounded up. The question is how violent will it get?

The Supreme Ruler isn't interested in Democracy.

english.aljazeera.net

#4 | Posted by jerrytarkanian

YAY! now go back to your little club and make a report. i was wondering how juvenile you could get.

Sad day for Iranians. Maybe they will begin trying to overthrow the Ayatollahs that make their lives hell.

#8 | Posted by danni

perhaps we should send jimmy carter as special envoy for this little venture?

No Nanc, probably be smarter to do a "Reagan" and send the Ayatollah some missiles. Say what you will about Carter but it was Reagan who illegally bargained with the Iranians and gave them weapons for hostages.

carter gave them the ayatollahs - he should take them back!

the plain stupidity of the dr right is obscene.

especially the likes of people like nanc.

pure unadulterated retarded

i can't really comment on what was said cause its beyond idiocy.

Well-- the one who was defeated managed to lose the vote in his own home town.

Fraud in overdrive--but to be expected by A-jihad.

And that "spirited debate"--what a joke--they should work for Letterman.

We kind of brought this on ourselves, didn't we? Kliffie apparently understood what Nancy was trying to say in her first post. I didn't, but it surely wasn't good. herm

Did Jimmy Carter certify this "election?"

"carter gave them the ayatollahs - he should take them back!"

They gave themselves Ayatollahs. They chased our guy, the Shah, out of town. The Iranians took over our embassy because we sheltered him in the US.

"Did Jimmy Carter certify this 'election'?"

ACLUSUX, who gives him(?)self away with his chosen handle, would like to think that the A-guy stole it in Iran like Bush stole it in 2000 and 2004 America. My guess is that, influenced by American-Israeli saber rattling, this really is how the Iranian people voted. It's OUR fault. herm

Mirhossein Mousavi = Al Gore

"We kind of brought this on ourselves, didn't we?"

What an Amerocentric view, like thats the only concern of the people. What are the issues facing Iran domestically, how about a stagnate economy despite is oil? The other candidate supported nuclear enrichment as well.
www.ndi.org

The left wing posters here that drone on about that government of Iran doesn't represent the people. Well I know this data point will be viewed as an outlier in future discussions, but the fact remains that the people of Iran have spoken, and from any elevation, they like what their government is saying and doing.

While some say fraud, but if as many lefties here have proclaimed, the people dont like the government, then surely they can over come the fraud, or at least make it close.

Why did GWB alienate the Middle East so completely that Imonajihad was elected in the first place?

did you notice the lefturds are in cahoots to ignore those of u.s. on the right? BWAH! imagine if we all disappeared for a day or two.

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-12 11:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

I won't ignore a shit-stain like yourself. Instead, I'll come out here and ask you 'WTF are you talking about?'.

BTW, the 'us' with the periods....'US' is in 'U.S.' is only made up turds like you?? Is that supposed to be another of the 'Real Americans' attacks?

Please keep that up....it worked so well in the last election when you clowns used it......well, for my guy it did.

So much for the Cairo speech changing--well--anything.

#1 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-06-12 11:15 PM | Reply |

So much for supporters of the right making a relevant comment---on----well---
anything.

"After the speech that I made in Cairo, we tried to send a clear message that we think there's the possibility of change, and, you know, ultimately the election is for the Iranians to decide," Obama said Friday.

the iranians decided just like the pals. did when they elected hamas,so obama will just have to recognize and deal with the people's choice.

perhaps we should send jimmy carter as special envoy for this little venture?

#9 | Posted by nanc

Maybe we should send Sarah Palin and her massive diplomatic experience. After all, she's dealt with..........................
.........................

...Canada?

"I can see Iran from my house."

Former Vice President
Richard Cheney and Mrs. Cheney
would like to invite you to attend
a small gathering of like minded individuals
to celebrate the victory of President Ahmadinejad
and insure more years of Iranian hostility towards America.

Time: 7:00
Date: Today
Dress: SS Uniforms if you have them otherwise casual.

cocktails and dinner will be followed
by a short rant by Rush Limbaugh, entitled "Obama caused this when he went to Cairo."

R.S.V.P.

I find it ever so funny that we as a Country have endorsed Irans nuclear "power" goals instead of turning them onto Solar Power Tech. I mean come on, they get enough sun spreadout over their desert areas that they could lead the way and produce the worlds largest Solar Collection Initiative to date. Now THAT would be revolutionary.

We should aslo be putting Solar Panel Tech all over our own desert areas as well. Its not like we have a dense population out in there on the range anyway.

They've had it with the Ayatolla's bullshit.

The Iranians have more balls than the Americans.

That whole axis of evil stuff taught them and NK a lot didn't it?

Iran is in for some major internal problems.

NANC

The Neocons on this site have been threatening that for years.
Why dont you give it a go?

Hi! My name is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Hello. My name is Karl Rove. and whenever we are in an election jam, we do not worry.

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Call the 800 number at the bottom of your screen...

The election was motherfucking rigged.

their is just one vote that counts in iran so why get upset, the outcome is predetermined,just think pro wrestling,it's all for show.

Obama's spiritual buddies won the race. Now he can not only bow or genuflect, but can prostrate himself before the Ayatollahs in Iran. He should visit and pay proper obeisance. After all, as a detached American President, Obama can't show preference. He'll demonstrate his commitment to fairness by figuratively submitting to a Shia cleric leader as he did in submitting to a Sunni ruler, the Saudi Arabian. Hey, Obama is Sunni by heritage, but now he'll work for a pan-Islamic movement.

Islam is on the march, and they have installed a mole who favors that creed in the White House. Insh'allah.

Gimme a break. Hitler got re-elected .... what a surprise! And a nothing Muslim country goes ape shit. And we act like these assholes live in a society that has advanced beyond the stone age. Barry is "encouraged" by the political discourse!
Does this textbook narcicist live in a paralell universe?

Andrea,

"While some say fraud, but if as many lefties here have proclaimed, the people dont like the government, then surely they can over come the fraud, or at least make it close."

do you actually believe that?

I would venture to guess that were it not for our system of government, we would see far more vote rigging than we do in the US.

For all of our flaws, it is becoming increasingly difficult to mess with votes.

I have no illusion that there aren't mistakes every election. Some are deliberate, but I think human error and poor judgement by people in charge probably are the primary cause.

But Iran? Come on now?

Mousavi didn't carry his own hometown. That election is tainted.

We just finished the eight most disasterous years in the history of democracies anywhere. You think we don't have as many rigged elections as any caliphate or banana republic anywhere? her,

Islam is on the march, and they have installed a mole who favors that creed in the White House. Insh'allah.

As Klifferd said earlier, there are some people on the retort who are so fucking stupid that their lame excuse for an "argument" doesn't merit a response.

God willing, you will realize what a pompous jackass you are before you die.

their is just one vote that counts in iran so why get upset, the outcome is predetermined,just think pro wrestling,it's all for show.

Why get upset? Because there was the hope that perhaps things were going to change in Iran. We got rid of our buffoon... the theocracy decided not to reciprocate. Hope and change are for suckers, as chickenhawk would say.

Marg bar Khamenei.

This election will turn out to be a major problem for Iran. It seems just way too probably that there was fraud involved. And the people are pissed.

"We got rid of our buffoon."

Term limits, a Republican reaction to Roosevelt.

Stolen election?

See, and some folks think that America and Iran don't have anything in common and there ya go, right there.

^_^

Anyone but Ahaminajihad woulda been a better pick from the US perspective, of course.

This leads one to hope that maybe these current results will not stand.

At the end of the day Ahaminjihad is a peanut.

A populist puppet with nominal real power but an important puppet from the perspective of the less public but more powerful Ayatollah, especially in terms of the religious state controlling public opinion over there.

A hard thing to do since the real Iranian leadership must two-step between appearing overly obliging to the west in order to appear strong to their own people at home while simultaneously trying to assert their own sovereignty on the global stage diplomatically without unduly provoking the folk who could turn their country into a smoking crater of radioactive glass if oushed too far.

Mixing politics and diplomacy successfully is a tricky business.

No doubt the US is still insisting on preventing any linkage between any nuclear agreements made with Iran and Israel's off the table nuclear arsenal from being made.

No doubt the Iranians are still trying to achieve that end.

The subject of Israel's nukes is one that America's leaders can't talk about publicly.

They are also are a matter of much discussion around much of the rest of the world, of course.

Ahaminajihad or no, the ongoing dialogue over the MEern nuclear race is worth paying attention to.

It will interesting to watch this one play out.

Be Well.

This is a good time to support these protestors with military action. Take the leash off of Israel too.

This is a good time to support these protestors with military action. Take the leash off of Israel too.

#45 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-06-13 10:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right. Kill some of their neighbors and friends in air raids, put some tanks in their streets, and they will flock to the forces of freedom....

Not so fast, Imadinnerjacket.

Yes, the president of Iran's own election monitoring commission has declared the result invalid and called for a do-over. That is huge news: when a regime's own electoral monitors beak ranks, what chance does the regime have of persuading anyone in the world or Iran that it has democratic legitimacy? Second:

Stratfor is reporting that Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, head of the Expediency Council, has resigned. Though unconfirmed, the report is saying that Rafsanjani is resigning from his position as head of the Expediencey Council, NOT his position as the leader of the Assembly of Experts, which has oversight responsibility over the office of the Supreme Leader and would be responsible for naming Ayatollah Khamenei's successor.


andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com

"Sad day for Iranians. Maybe they will begin trying to overthrow the Ayatollahs that make their lives hell."
#8 | Posted by danni

Shhh, don't let Jimmah let you hear that. He helped put them in charge.

#48 | Posted by KBM at 2009-06-13 11:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Failed 20th Century history.

Shhh, don't let Jimmah let you hear that. He helped put them in charge.

#48 | Posted by KBM at 2009-06-13 11:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

How so?

"They gave themselves Ayatollahs. They chased our guy, the Shah, out of town. The Iranians took over our embassy because we sheltered him in the US."

"They gave themselves Ayatollahs. They chased our guy, the Shah, out of town. The Iranians took over our embassy because we sheltered him in the US."
#16 | Posted by danni

No, the hostage situation was in retaliation because in 1953 the CIA overthrew the PM Mosaddeq and brought the Shah into power.

Carter, who did not support the Shah, was even contemplating handing over the Shah to the Ayatollahs. His UN Ambassador even compared Khomeini to MLK.

"between 1975 and 1978, the Shah's popularity fell due to the Carter administration's misguided implementation of human rights policies."

"The election of Mr. Carter as president of the United States in 1976, with his vocal emphasis on the importance of human rights in international affairs, was a turning point in US-Iran relations. The Shah of Iran was accused of torturing over 3000 prisoners. Under the banner of promoting human rights, Carter made excessive demands of the Shah, threatening to withhold military and social aid. Carter pressured the Shah to release "political prisoners", whose ranks included radical fundamentalists, communists and terrorists. Many of these individuals are now among the opponents we face in our "war on terrorism"."

"In retrospect, the Iran-Iraq War would never have occurred had Jimmy Carter not weakened the Shah's regime. This conflict cost the two nations more than 500,000 lives, including thousands of Iranians killed by Saddam Hussein's use of chemical weapons."

www.americanthinker.com

Gee Danni, what an inconvenient truth. Is that not what Crissy Matthews (who happened to work for the Carter administration as his speech wrioter) told you?

"How so?" #50 | Posted by BetelG

No reason I guess, just the liberal thing to do.

KBM-
re: "between 1975 and 1978, the Shah's popularity fell due to the Carter administration's misguided implementation of human rights policies."

You're quite a piece of work, dude.

"between 1975 and 1978, the Shah's popularity fell due to the Carter administration's misguided implementation of human rights policies."

Carter, eh?

Cos Carter shone a light on the over thirty years of atrocities by the CIA installed, US backed, torture happy Shah of Iran and his notorious SAVAK?

Yeah, Carter's the bad guy there!/snark>

Yer so wrong it's scary.

Carter is the most decent POTUS alive today.

Deal with it.

Be Well.

KBM-
You are saying that Carter wished for our dictator- client to observe human rights, and this was his mistake?

"KBM"-
You mean "KBG", right?

Stratfor is reporting that Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, head of the Expediency Council, has resigned. Though unconfirmed, the report is saying that Rafsanjani is resigning from his position as head of the Expediencey Council, NOT his position as the leader of the Assembly of Experts, which has oversight responsibility over the office of the Supreme Leader and would be responsible for naming Ayatollah Khamenei's successor.

The assembly of experts needs every sane voice it can get. It remains to be seen whether this is a forced resignation or one of protest. Anyway, news coming out of Iran is patchy - the state controls official media, and anything unofficial they're trying to block. Phones... internet... you name it.

As The Daily Show said the other day... regardless of who "wins," the real winner of the Iranian election will be the man who actually runs the country. True power lies with Khamenei, the guardian council, and assembly of experts. To think they might deign to acknowledge the will of the people that they govern... meh, nevermind.

...imagine if we all disappeared for a day or two.

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-12 11:55 PM

Please? Please? I'd even be willing to donate a few bux to "Gawd" to see this happen.

NANCMURPH, BEGONE!!!

If only!

carter gave them the ayatollahs - he should take them back!

#11 | Posted by nanc

we recently did get one back . . . Rhom

We should aslo be putting Solar Panel Tech all over our own desert areas as well. Its not like we have a dense population out in there on the range anyway.

#28 | Posted by GotTruth

umm, we did try that . . . wacko environmentalists halted those plans due to some kind of insect

JIMMY CARTER WAS THE WORST PRESIDENT WE EVER HAD.

What's Carter got to do with this?

Re# 27

Putting solar panels in the desert would harm the caribou.

"In retrospect, the Iran-Iraq War would never have occurred had Jimmy Carter not weakened the Shah's regime. This conflict cost the two nations more than 500,000 lives, including thousands of Iranians killed by Saddam Hussein's use of chemical weapons."
* * * *

Also in retrospect, the smartest thing Carter managed to do.

What's Carter got to do with this?

#63 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

please see the comment from rightisright. THIS is a well known fact that gets thrown under the rug when carter is brought up.

and allowing the shah in to the country for cancer treatment was also something that inflamed the allytolah to capture the embassy people too because they wanted him there to go ISLAMIC EXTREMIST" on....

Carter was a good President--second only to Clinton in the last half of the 20th century. No wars under Carter, and Carter fixed the inflation left over from Viet Nam. Carter would have been re-elected had not those helicopters crashed in Iran. Reagan made a deal with Iran to keep the hostages till he was sworn in---what a piece of shit.

The same fraudsters that brought us Smirky the Wonder Chimp miraculous 'win' in 2000 were hard at work in Iran last week, along with Mossad.

Election fraud on this scale takes skill and planning. Dickless was personally on hand to insure thing went their way.

Without Amendedpajamas in power, the Neocons in Israel and the USA have no one to rail against except Lil Kim.

#66 | Posted by afkabl2

Go back, do a little reading, check it out: The Shah was toast and on his way out. No way the convergence of forces in Iran -- it went across the political and cultural spectrum from Westernized democrats to 14th century fundamentalists -- could've been staunched. You may recollect that even his forces of repression eventually refused to shoot more people down in the streets. Not a damn thing Carter could've done to prevent the overthrow of the ancien regime.

I'd be curious what you thought about letting the Shah into the US for cancer treatment at the time. My guess is, had he not done so you would've (and would now) be condemning Carter for kow-towing to Khomeini. You may recall that as demands from the new Iranian government grew increasingly shrill (and while Americans were held hostage), the Shah left the US for Egypt. What was/is your reeading on that?

Doc posts: "Go back, do a little reading, check it out"

Doc,

Rusty Ballsack is too busy transcribing Orally and Flush's babbling to do any reading. If it doesn't belch forth from either of those meatbags, Rusty doesn't believe it.

LOL

Whatreallyhappened.com has two stories in its top 5 at the moment (& and many more more below in the link) on the Western & Israel press propaganda efforts to discredit the Iranian election.

there are even mutiple twitter accounts feeding the same message spam on the supposedly bogus election info.

Mousavie showed up as only having 14% in pre-election polling...what more does one need to know?

That AP doesn't like like the winner?

"Carter was a good President--second only to Clinton in the last half of the 20th century."

I thought your delusions were confined to antenna wielding ninja's and lunar smokestacks.

Carter was an unmitigated disaster.

We had sovereign US soil invaded and occupied on his watch.

Stratospheric interest rates.

"malaise".

I'll give you the fact Clinton was one of the best, but CARTER?!

Please.

Mousavie showed up as only having 14% in pre-election polling...what more does one need to know?

Polling done by what group, and of what demographic?

It was probably some shit out of Kayhan. And it was probably a survey of a bunch of Persian hillbillies (I'm sure there's a more colorful term in Farsi) who cling to their meager oil-money handouts and religion.

Just sayin'

But yeah, bani, blame it on the Jews...

We should aslo be putting Solar Panel Tech all over our own desert areas as well. Its not like we have a dense population out in there on the range anyway.
#28 | Posted by GotTruth

umm, we did try that . . . wacko environmentalists halted those plans due to some kind of insect
#61 | Posted by markh at 2009-06-14 08:43 AM

Link or data of any kind, please.

The same fraudsters that brought us Smirky the Wonder Chimp miraculous 'win' in 2000 were hard at work in Iran last week, along with Mossad.
Election fraud on this scale takes skill and planning. Dickless was personally on hand to insure thing went their way.
Without Amendedpajamas in power, the Neocons in Israel and the USA have no one to rail against except Lil Kim.
#68 | Posted by axe at 2009-06-14 02:57 PM

I believe Kim Jong Ill has been dead for a maybe months now.

Which makes it seriously ironic how the North Korean administration is going ahead with "nuclear missile" tests in the face of further global disrepute. I wonder who advises this tactic? China?

one more country then zero had prior to 1-29-09

missed the zero, make that 1-20-09

"Carter was a good President--second only to Clinton in the last half of the 20th century. No wars under Carter, and Carter fixed the inflation left over from Viet Nam. Carter would have been re-elected had not those helicopters crashed in Iran. Reagan made a deal with Iran to keep the hostages till he was sworn in---what a piece of shit."

Uh, Buffalo? Inflation was in double-digits when Carter left office. And where did you get the idea Reagan made a deal to keep the hostages in Iran??? It seemed to me at the time (and now) Iran freed them because they were scared of Reagan. Believe me, I was, too.
But double-digit inflation was "fixed"???? Get a new pair of glasses.

"causing Carter to become the first president since 1932 to lose a reelection bid, and his presidency was largely considered a failure."

And this is from Wiki, aka: the Pravda of the West

Watch the youtube video of him greeting the Bushes and ignore the Clintons at O's Inauguration. Often portrayed as too noble for politics he is a vile, pious, petty, inaffective twit.

"ineffective"

Watch the youtube video of him greeting the Bushes and ignore the Clintons at O's Inauguration.

I think Bill Clinton would cock-punch Jimmy Carter if given the opportunity.

I'd be willing to bet that to this day Clinton is still seething over Carter usurping his foreign policy with that bullshit N. Korea nuke deal. What position in Clinton's cabinet did he nominate Carter for? In the advise and consent process, what was the vote breakdown for his nomination?

We use DIEBOLD. #32 | POSTED BY AUNTIESOCIAL
LOL the libernazis cry about voting machines they prefer the dangling chads anyday.IMO you have to have voting machines with a paper receipt so you can recount if necessary paper and digital.
Darkstar

Uh, Buffalo? Inflation was in double-digits when Carter left office.

Wht did Carter do to cause that inflation? Nothing. Carter was cleaning up after the inflation caused by Viet Nam. Reagan simply carried on Carters economics and took credit for the economy before spending us into the largest national debt in our history.

And where did you get the idea Reagan made a deal to keep the hostages in Iran??? It seemed to me at the time (and now) Iran freed them because they were scared of Reagan. Believe me, I was, too.

Please--yes--those whackos were "scared". What a gullible person you are. If they were frightened---they could have released them weeks earlier. It was a choreopgraphed release for political reason--grandstanding with peoples lives to fool fools like yourself. Maybe the terrorists are "frightened" too, and they'll be good boys in the future.

www.nytimes.com

But double-digit inflation was "fixed"???? Get a new pair of glasses.

Get a new brain---what did Carter do to cause the inflation---what did Reagan do to fix it? Think for once.

#80 | Posted by Diablo at 2009-06-15 02:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

I thought your delusions were confined to antenna wielding ninja's and lunar smokestacks.

That's because you are stupid beyond belief. You have no idea what you are talking about concerning the car antenna. I would still choose the car antenna over a gun I can't get to---how about yourself Super Genius? Would you choose the gun you can't reach over the car antenna? I bet you would. The smokestack on the moon is for anyone with eyes.

www.youtube.com

Carter was an unmitigated disaster.

No wars--fixed inflation from Nam---I can understand your hatred.

We had sovereign US soil invaded and occupied on his watch.

As opposed to the invasion we suffered on 9/11? Maybe we should have just bombed the fuck out of Iran and killed several hundred thousand innocent people like Bush did in Iraq---would you have been happier then? I guess you can't see the value of not going to war.

Stratospheric interest rates.

Caused by what action taken by Carter?

"malaise".

Caused by what action taken by Carter?

I'll give you the fact Clinton was one of the best, but CARTER?!

Carter came in when the country was still seething from Nixons pardon. The cons were hateful and resentful, and nothing Carter could have done would have pleased them. The cons ran the conservative press, and still do. That's why the conservative view of Carter remains, and the liberal view is dismissed. Carter was a great President compared to everyone else in the last half of the last century.

Please.

Show your work. Show the bad actions taken by Carter that caused the problems you mention.

#73 | Posted by babuenthal at 2009-06-14 06:42 PM | Reply | Flag

IMO you have to have voting machines with a paper receipt so you can recount if necessary paper and digital.
Darkstar

#84 | Posted by darkstar74 at 2009-06-15 08:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

That is the liberal viewpoint. What are you? LIBERAL??!!

"Wht did Carter do to cause that inflation? Nothing. Carter was cleaning up after the inflation caused by Viet Nam. Reagan simply carried on Carters economics and took credit for the economy before spending us into the largest national debt in our history."

Carter appointed Paul Volker head of the Fed, that's what he did. Obama used Volker as an advisor, too. This idiot jacked up the prime rate over 20% and caused a huge recession with double-digit unemployment and inflation. He also cheapened our currency till it looked like the lira.
As for your repeated assertion the hostage release was choreographed by Reagan, just saying so does not make it so.
Let us know if you see any black helicopters today.

Diablo

Carter apponted Volker in August of 1979 to start the economic recovery. Reagan appointed Volker also, and he ran the Fed through August of 1987--guiding America out of the inflationary bind brought on by Viet Nam spending. As stated--Reagan carried on the policies started by Carter. You seem to have forgotten the years Volker spent under Reagan. That's because you are a partisan hack blinded by your hatred of liberals. Party before country is your motto.

I linked to evidence of Reagan making a deal. Of course a trial would have been nice when he was alive, but the conservative press ensured no questions would be asked about the timing of the release. Of course zombies like yourself will believe whatever the party line says, so what difference would reality make to someone like you. Here's another you can ignore.

www.btinternet.com

Our media is telling us "Tens of Thousands" yet France is saying 1.5 - 2 million. Too bad Obama isnt there so the numbers would be reported as "tens of millions". They always add at least a zero (0) to any estimate when Obama is concerned.

#67 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

FF for BB

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