Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, June 10, 2009

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright said that he voted for Obama and did not hold a grudge against him for statements made during the presidential campaign. He also said that he had not spoken to him. "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me," Wright said in an interview with the Newport News Daily Press. "I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office."

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Wright is probably telling the truth. The Jews pretty much control everything these days.

Uh, actually, right now the Jew haters are controlling everything.

If you wonder why President Hussein makes the decision he makes or why he is on a global apology tour or why he is kissing the ass of the Islamic world everyday.

You don't have to look very far.

Wright is a anti semite racist and race baiter......

Wright is scum and Wright was the most important man in President Husseins life for 20+ years.

Here we go.....

So Obama's kissing the ass of the Islamic world *and* taking his cues from an anti-Semite, Rex?

......And they want us to say God Bless America, NO NO NO NO NO, I say GODDAMN AMERICA, It's in THE BIBLE!!!!

Jermiah Wright, September 17th, 2001

Does that make him a Chris?

And please don't confuse Jewish people with the Zionist bastard baby killers of Israel.

Completely different.......

On believes in the Torah.

The other needs to discover hell so that they can rot in it.

Would you prefer the word 'Jew hater' Rogers.

Husseins church gave a Man of the Year award to Louis Farrakhan.

Have no doubt where President Hussein is coming from with Israel and at whose feet he learned.

'Nuff said.

Obama hires his friend to run his entire WH, who also happens to have served in the Israeli defense force and he's now a 'jew-hater'?

...And they want us to say God Bless America, NO NO NO NO NO, I say GODDAMN AMERICA, It's in THE BIBLE!!!!

probably the most out of context quote ever repeated

Right Bruce.....righhhhhhtttttt....

.....And they want us to say God Bless America, NO NO NO NO NO, I say GODDAMN AMERICA, It's in THE BIBLE!!!!

Jermiah Wright, September 17th, 2001

#6 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-06-10 05:20 PM | Reply | Flag:


You do realize that this was said when discussing 400 years of slavery and no rights whatsoever in America, right?

I think the black people have been far more forgiving than had the same thing happened to white people.

There are plenty of Religious nuts on both sides of the aisle.


"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld

Jeremiah Wright appointed Rohm Emmanuel as C.O.S.?

Wow, he has more power then I thought.....

"Maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up" Pat Robertson, on nuking the State Department

Obama hires his friend to run his entire WH, who also happens to have served in the Israeli defense force and he's now a 'jew-hater'?

Posted by COMMONSENSE

see this ~ commonsense?

"At the Cannes press conference, Moore was asked to trace the path from Icon. "I don't hang out with Mel Gibson. I only know what I was told by my agent, Ari Emmanuel."

www.indyweek.com


Rahm Emmanuel, former Clinton adviser, former congressman from Illinois, current White House Chief of Staff, staunch supporter of Israel, and suspected by many of being "Mega", the Mossad mole in the Clinton White House, has a brother, Ari Emmanuel, who just happens to be Michael Moore's agent.

whatreallyhappened.com

I would say the two people trying to justify Wrights filth are mentally ill but that would be doing a disservice to the mentally ill.

Even his boy Hussein disavowed and totally repudiated Wrights hateful anti America rant 5 days after 9/11, but you two knuckleheads are going to try and change reality to fit your own anti American feelings.

Sick man, sick.

One fucking imbecile opens his asshole here after another.

This is what happens when simple minds try to diagnose a man who has an i.q. of over 105.

Stick to bush folks. He's about all your speed.

"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve"

Jerry Falwell

I don't know what your problem is with Wright, Rex. You're cut from the same cloth. He doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense either.

Obama can't be a Jew hater and a closet Islamist, dude. Make up your mind.

Rogers, you always resort to insults.

Is it because you know your hard left knee jerk reactionary stances can't stand even the slightest scrutiny without total collapse?

Maybe you think parsing reality will change reality and Wright and Farrakhan will somehow be tranformed into 'hero's if you can reduce the 'others' argument to a fractal edge,...but guess what, it doesn't.

Wright is a proud jew hater, he doesn't hide it he embraces it and teaches it, and he embraces anyone who hates jews.

I'm betting Husseins spiritual advisor wishes he could go on a shooting rampage and kill jews, but of course only if he gets to keep his multi million dollar mansion in his all white neighborhood.

Rogers, you always resort to insults.
#21 | Posted by r_zeitgeist | Flag: ROTFLMAO


"Rogers, you always resort to insults."

REX, the confirmed online stalker!!! lol

where's your song "I'm a lover, Not a Hater"?

them Jews. Great way to start a conversation.

STAY CLASSY!

*** NEWS ALERT *** Rev. Wright got it wrong. The Jews won't let him talk to the Right, not Rev. Wright.

Obama can't be a Jew hater and a closet Islamist, dude.

#20 | Posted by rcade at 2009-06-10 05:32 PM | Reply

Are those two things mutually exclusive?

How any of you can defend Obama for spending 20 years in a racist, anti-semitic church is beyond me. Obama went to Wright during the campaign to ask him to tone it down. Wright refused and Obama left the church. If Wright would have toned it down Obama would have stayed in that hate filled church. There simply is no defending the fact that he went to that church every Sunday for 20 years.

It's hard to believe that Obama ever saw anything in this clown. I'd be interested in reading an explanation of their relationship that wasn't written by somebody with an axe to grind. These quotes make Wright look like somebody who should be ranting on streetcorners, not a revered religious leader in Chicago.

"They will not let [Obama] to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is...."

The good Rev. doesn't choose his words carefully.

#28 | Posted by rcade

Obama and Wright are cut from the same cloth--that's the reason.

Obama agrees with him--that's why he spent 20 friggin years.

Michelle agrees with Wright as well--that's why she was in the same church for umpteen years as well.

It's hard to believe that Obama ever saw anything in this clown. I'd be interested in reading an explanation of their relationship that wasn't written by somebody with an axe to grind. These quotes make Wright look like somebody who should be ranting on streetcorners, not a revered religious leader in Chicago.

#28 | Posted by rcade at 2009-06-10 06:00 PM

This makes all of the minimizing of their relationship by lefties during the campaign all the more pathetic.

Obama saw 20 years of something in this clown. No one had a problem pinning McCain down with some of his nutty preachers, but somehow Obama's close personal preacher of 20 years "barely" influenced him. Ha!

#7 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-06-10 05:21 PM

And please don't confuse Jewish people with the Zionist bastard baby killers of Israel.

Another revisionist "historian?"

Er, you blocked out the fact that it was the Islamics who were targeting and killing babies. How about the Islamic hero who deliberately bashed in the head of an infant up close and personal, a humanitarian who was recently released from captivity. And what about the targeting of busloads of kindergartners.

Remind us of the incidents in which the Jews deliberately targeted and killed babies.

And also remind us that the so-called Palestinians didn't use babies as human shield to pretect themselves from counterfire. Oh gosh, they did.

Why do you create such BS? You don't require it to justify your feelings. Just say you hate "them" because ... you do.No justification is necessary. It's just you. No false or misleading elaboration is necessary.

Unfortunately in conflicts, there is usually collateral damage. The Islamics target the innocent. The Israelis don't. We and others have done our share as in the fire bombing of Dresden and Tokyo. I'm not criticizing our actions as I think they were merited. But stop applying different standards if that's what you're trying to do with your misstatements.

Ezra Nawi is one of Israel's most courageous human rights activists and without your help, he will likely go to jail in less than 30 days.

His crime? He tried to stop a military bulldozer from destroying the homes of Palestinian Bedouins in the South Hebron region. These homes and the families who live in them have been under Israeli occupation for 42 years. They still live without electricity, running water and other basic services. They are continuously harassed by Jewish settlers and the military.

He is loved by those with little power, to whom he dedicates his life, and hated by the Jewish settlers, military and police.

Now that you know Ezra, you have a chance to stand up for him, and for everything that he represents.
Especially now, as Israel escalates its crackdown on human rights and pro-democracy activists.

He needs you. His friends need you. Those he helps every day need you. So please send a letter to the Consulate, to the media, to your family and friends.

Take just a moment to write your letter. Do it now. And then share his name with a friend. Do it for Ezra Nawi.

salsa.democracyinaction.org

Harper Mag did a great article on Obama's path to power in 2006!

In it, it is clearly outlined that those who control the media must become his benefactors if Obama is to succeed

November 2006
Barack Obama Inc.:
The birth of a Washington machine

By Ken Silverstein

www.harpers.org

Obama and Wright are cut from the same cloth--that's the reason.

That's crazy. Obama's nothing like Wright. If he was, he never would have been elected president. Just one statement even a tenth as idiotic as Wright's remark today about Jews would have derailed his candidacy.

Obama has shown throughout his life that he's not an racial bombthrower or a hater. He got where he is by building bridges, not tearing them down.

#20 | Posted by rcade at 2009-06-10 05:32 PM

Obama can't be a Jew hater and a closet Islamist, dude. Make up your mind.

Two explanations.

1. For the true believers (in Obama). With God (the Messiah) all things are possible.

2. The Jews control everything and are the ones controlling the actions of Islamics throughout the world as they are the eminences gris working through their nefarious agenda.

Or if you choose not to be simplistic, Obama is a very complicated fellow. What the resolution of his compulsions of varying strengths is, is difficult to determine.

For example, Michelle writes of her discomfort at Princeton. This despite the warmth of the reception and support provided her. She fails to see this as herself being disturbed and thus unable to cope with the reality of the beneficence and warm hearts of the people to whom she cannot reciprocate warmth because of her own screwed up feelings. But it's Michelle who is "prejudiced" and uncomfortable in situations in which she interacts with people of other backgrounds. Michelle created a world for herself that was not congruent with reality but she acts consonant to her subjective beliefs.

Obama has unresolved differentiated beliefs. Obama is an ambulatory schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur and the subjective idea that he has "hem of the garment" powers. He is also narcissistic and a sociopath. He has been indoctrinated by a black communist apparatchek as a youth, and by Rev. Wright bigoted race hustler as an adult. His early childhood found him identified as a Muslim in Indonesia and his beloved mother "loved" a Muslim. Does that residually make Muslims and Islam "good."

How does Obama resolve this, reconciling the actions of Muslims, the reality with his feelings and identification with and alliance with Muslims?

Now some Jews are the ones who engineered the Obama political ascent, and who are insulating Obama, a mediocrity and lightweight from the forces assailing him as he embarks on implementing programs dear his heart, the values of communist Marxism, and identification with Islam. Does Obama intuitively recognize his vulnerability if he fully alienates his Jewish advisers and protectors? Remember that preening, posturing Obama is ecstatic regarding the adulation he is receiving. He is in narcissist's heaven.

Maybe we'll see how these matters resolve themselves in a while. Or will they remain in a state of flux. Round and round and round she, the roulette wheel ball, goes and where she stops nobody knows.

Keep in mind that as a narcissist what is really important to Obama after everything is said and done, is himself. And keep in mind that as a sociopath Obama is not bound by any previous pronouncement or required to be consistent or adhere to any principles.

Obama will shuck and jive.


RCADE I think that Obama put up with Rev Wright like all politicians put up with any Church. They have to to be accepted as "normal".

What are the odds of an agnostic or atheist being elected to the highest office of the land? Nil to none. We all know that there is not supposed to be a religious test for being President but in reality there is.

Now we not only require our leaders to be religious but we also appear to hold them accountable for whatever the pastor/priest/pope/minister that they are associated with says... like they have any control over what comes out of another humans mouth. But, they are guilty by association because they chose to go and sit in that church.

I would only hold Obama accountable if he agreed with what was being said by his religious counselor like Bush did. It is obvious that Obama is trying to distance himself from Rev Wright so why all the angst Rex?

Like I said they are plenty of Religious nut cases on both sides of the Political aisle. Though I am pretty sure the Rethugs win the freak show prize with the Evangelical End Of Times Death Cult of the Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson "Axis of Evil".

This is the Thread where the Wingdings get upset about some crazy preacher ------ in total oblivion to the Fact they themselves have been promoting and defending their own crazy preachers for years!

They act as if their own excusing of the falwells and the robertsons hasn't Already jaded the American public to such things, and as if they didn't already make these outlandish statements (like blaming 9-11 on the ACLU) mainstream over the years!

The fucking Irony!

Posted by Redneckville at 2009-06-10 06:52 PM

I see retardville has gone back to this name..........again.

#1 | Posted by rastaninja

you have just equated yourself with the holocaust museum shooter by believing this.

#9 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

rahm emanuel is at best a self-loathing jew and has no love in him for israel. he is perfect to stand beside this false prophet potus.

We had "the three tenors."

And now we have "the three Reverends." They should receive accolades as did Joe Louis, "... a scholar, a gentleman, and a credit to his race."

We have three black gentlemen, who have found distinguished careers as race pimps, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, the Rev. Al Sharpton, and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Of the three. Rev. Wright is probably by far the most intelligent although he is the last to attain recognition on the national scene.

Rev. Jackson has difficulty writing, and only other strengths, his extraordinary ingenuity and perseverance enabled him to complete college and receive a degree, and overcome his impairments, which would have prevented an ordinary man from succeeding. He subsequently demonstrated his assertiveness and insight when he as someone on the periphery was nonetheless able to capitalize on his physical proximity and build a career as initially self-declared carrying on the work of Martin Luther King. Rev. Jackson's success has been transgenerational, and if his son avoids any findings of culpability for involvement in the Governor succession scandal in Illinois, the family will continue to prosper. The Rev. Jacskon expressed scorn for Jews, referring to Hymietown, and periodically making negative observations.

Rev. Al (Bullhorn)Sharpton is largely uneducated and gruff, but nevertheless has had a successful career, advancing beyond what must have been his wildest expectations by organizing and exploiting the animosities of blacks. He has taken the low road trying to exploit such episodes as the Tawana Brawley fiasco, and the Duke rape scenario, unashamedly making rash and false allegations. In the meantime as has been Rev. Jackson, Sharpton as "a black leader" (alas the depths of leadership and ability make one shirk) has been provided with grants from both government sources and foundations which have supported him in a high life style. Rev. Al has also expressed his deeply held distaste for Jews, alleging urging a Jewish business be burned down which resulted in the deaths of Latino employees, and fomenting a riot in a Jewish area in which a Jew was killed by a black mob.

Then there is Rev. Wright, the best educated and most intelligent of the three, who attended schools for gifted children (in a Jewish neighborhood), and exploited dissatisfaction of blacks focusing on hatred for America which has provided them with such bounty, and also racial hatred and anti-Semitism. Rev. Wright's expressions of vitriol seem to have been largely vocalization.

Here we have three American black Reverends, who stand as inspirations to us all as to what may be accomplished in America under the most adverse conditions.

#20 | Posted by rcade

think taqiyya/

Not sure what Obama should do here. Its not good for him that's for sure. He can't act like this is some batsh--t crazy televangelist that he's had nothing to do with. He was a major part of his life. He titled his book after one of his speeches. I can't imagine this is the first time anti-semitic comments have come from Wright. Has Obama heard them before? Is this a theme in their church? Not good for Obama, he should pay him to shutup.

rahm emanuel is at best a self-loathing jew and has no love in him for israel.

#41 | Posted by nanc

Ohhhhhh. Well that would certainly explain why Emanuel was a civilian volunteer in the Israeli Defense Forces during the first Gulf War, repairing trucks in one of Israel's northern bases.

Not sure what Obama should do here.

He's already repudiated Wright during the campaign. All he has to do here is direct Robert Gibbs to refer people back to that statement.

All he has to do here is direct Robert Gibbs to refer people back to that statement.

#46 | Posted by rcade

Great. Another 3 hour press corp meeting on Gibbs agenda for him to choke out a coherant thought regarding a question.


Obama and Wright are cut from the same cloth--that's the reason.


That's crazy. Obama's nothing like Wright. If he was, he never would have been elected president. Just one statement even a tenth as idiotic as Wright's remark today about Jews would have derailed his candidacy.


Obama has shown throughout his life that he's not an racial bombthrower or a hater. He got where he is by building bridges, not tearing them down.

#35 | Posted by rcade


Rcade--Obama is exactly the same as Wright--People do not hang out in a church for 20 years with this kind of spittle coming out without having agreement with it.

Either he agrees with it or he is a weakling to leave it.

So much for hope and change when you can't change or won't change ones own church--or tell the pastor to take a hike and then leave the church.


Two peas in a pod.

Birds of a feather flock together.

like to own this church?





Holy Prostitutes'

A man is driving down a deserted stretch of highway when he notices a sign out of the corner of his eye....It reads:

SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS
HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION
10 MILES

He thinks this is a figment of his imagination and drives on without second thought....

Soon he sees another sign which reads:

SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS
HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION
5 MILES

Suddenly he begins to realize that these signs are for real and drives past a third sign saying:

SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS
HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION
NEXT RIGHT

His curiosity gets the best of him and he pulls into the drive. On the far side of the parking lot is a stone building with a small sign next to the door reading:

SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS

He climbs the steps and rings the bell. The door is answered by a nun in a long black habit who asks, 'What may we do for you ! my son? '

He answers, 'I saw your signs along the highway and was interested in possibly doing business....'

'Very well my son. Please follow me.' He is led through many winding passages and is soon quite disoriented. The nun stops at a closed door and tells the man, 'Please knock on this door.'

He does so and another nun in a long habit, holding a tin cup answers the door... This nun instructs, 'Please place $100 in the cup then go through the large wooden door at the end of the hallway.'

He puts $100 in the cup, eagerly trots down the hall and slips through the door pulling it shut behind him.

The door locks, and he finds himself back in the parking lot facing another sign:

GO IN PEACE.
YOU HAVE JUST BEEN SCREWED BY THE SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS.
SERVES YOU RIGHT, YOU SINNER

"He's already repudiated Wright during the campaign. All he has to do here is direct Robert Gibbs to refer people back to that statement.

#46 | Posted by rcade "

I don't know, maybe, it just seems like this is a whole new ball of wax. The other stuff seemed more about America and the racial strife between White and Black Americans. It was difficult to believe that Obama never sat through one of those sermons and its nearly impossible for me to believe that he didn't hear Wright talk about Jews, whether personally or at the pulpit. People who make statements like this in public usually aren't shy about doing the same in private.

"All national institutions of Churches appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and to monopolise power and profit. Now some will say are we to have no word of God, no revelation? I answer, yes, there is a word of God, there is a revelation, the word of God is in the creation we behold, and it is in this word, which no human invention can counterfeit or alter, that God, speaketh, universally to man." - Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794

"People do not hang out in a church for 20 years with this kind of spittle coming out without having agreement with it."

So do lifelong Catholics agree with kid-diddling, or just the conspiracy and cover-up?

So do lifelong Catholics agree with kid-diddling, or just the conspiracy and cover-up?

horrible strawman danforth.


horrible.

I don't know, maybe, it just seems like this is a whole new ball of wax. The other stuff seemed more about America and the racial strife between White and Black Americans. It was difficult to believe that Obama never sat through one of those sermons and its nearly impossible for me to believe that he didn't hear Wright talk about Jews, whether personally or at the pulpit. People who make statements like this in public usually aren't shy about doing the same in private.

#50 | Posted by GreenDad at 2009-06-10 08:03 PM

Exactly.

I'm not saying the conclusion is that Obama is a Jew/America hater, but pretending that Obama didn't follow this man for 20 years agreeing with him enough to let him baptize his children is crazy.

I'm sure the powers that be have the dossier on the sinclair murders:>)

"horrible strawman danforth."

Mine, or Murphy's?

"I'm not saying the conclusion is that Obama is a Jew/America hater"

Of course, if that were true I doubt Rahm Emanuel would be his Chief of Staff. That doesn't change the fact that to me at least you'd have to suspend reality to think President Obama never heard this guy go on an Anti-Jew tirade.

I just don't get why Obama kept Wright as such an important person in his life for 20 years.

He's already repudiated Wright during the campaign.

this is being offered to Obama. He gets to "repudiate" what he has been hearing from the pulpit for 20 years. And someone who personally knows this wackjob.

all of this pandering would NOT be given to anybody on the right.

Fuck, Palin gets slammed for her church.

puling hypocrites

I just don't get why Obama kept Wright as such an important person in his life for 20 years.

Exactly. I agree that Obama hasn't diplayed actions that indicate he is anyway like Wright but I don't see how anybody could tolerate someone like this from the pulpit.

I just don't get why Obama kept Wright as such an important person in his life for 20 years.

Posted by GreenDad

the powers that be shifted the Ron Brown assassination discussion to Blow Jobs during Billy's regime.

Never mind it was an old story buried during the summer of Dole's run for Prez. LA Times did the burying that time...


I just don't get why Obama kept Wright as such an important person in his life for 20 years.


Exactly. I agree that Obama hasn't diplayed actions that indicate he is anyway like Wright but I don't see how anybody could tolerate someone like this from the pulpit.


#59 | Posted by eberly


Either Obama didn't car or he agreed with it.

---

Dan you are the ultimate strawman. You heard of the ultimate cheesburger? You camp out there too. ;o)

"the powers that be shifted the Ron Brown assassination discussion to Blow Jobs during Billy's regime.

Never mind it was an old story buried during the summer of Dole's run for Prez. LA Times did the burying that time...

#60 | Posted by Bani "

Bakin' powder?

Bakin' powder?

Posted by GreenDad

good for killin' tumors in the body, too, caused by

www.flcv.com

Mine, or Murphy's?

#56 | Posted by Danforth


you can't expect that to be funny...................unless you were being serious.

I hope not.

a lifelong Catholic didn't hear about how much a priest desired little boys from the pulpit.

Hell, they didn't hear about it anywhere until 15 years later (unless, perhaps it happened at their own parish)

horrible strawman danforth.

That's crazy. Obama's nothing like Wright. If he was, he never would have been elected president. Just one statement even a tenth as idiotic as Wright's remark today about Jews would have derailed his candidacy.


Obama has shown throughout his life that he's not an racial bombthrower or a hater. He got where he is by building bridges, not tearing them down.

#35 | Posted by rcade at 2009-06-10 06:23 PM


You're a naive guy.

"Dan you are the ultimate strawman."

What do you mean? I was agreeing with your point that anyone who stays with a church for 20 years or more holds that church's views. So if it's true for Obama, isn't it also true for the Catholics?

obama has the taqiyya down pat. ohdang he's good.

What do you mean?

your strawman has approached the level of buffalobob.

how pathetic.

Not good for Obama, he should pay him to shutup.

#44 | Posted by GreenDad at 2009-06-10 07:07 PM
'

Pathetic.

"a lifelong Catholic didn't hear about how much a priest desired little boys from the pulpit."

No, they took care of all of that in the back rooms, as they were shuffling priests from one parish to another. But if Obama was expected to leave his church, shouldn't all Catholics have been held to the same standard once they found out?

Obama is a Globalist ~ perhaps that's taqiyya to u in Cheyenne?

Obama is a Globalist ~ perhaps that's taqiyya to u in Cheyenne?

#71 | Posted by Bani

for Nanc...#67

No, they took care of all of that in the back rooms, as they were shuffling priests from one parish to another.

You think Catholic lay people have anything to do with decisions about Priest assignments?

idiot.

horrible strawman

what else do you got?

But if Obama was expected to leave his church, shouldn't all Catholics have been held to the same standard once they found out?

"I'm a kid diddler, Our Father who......"

whatever.

I don't know what Obama heard or didn't hear from Trinity's pulpit. Sometimes people get blunter and crankier as they get older and near the end of their careers.

I do know that on the 3 occasions I visited that church I didn't hear anything remotely racist or antisemitic. Although majority Black, there are members from all races there.

I also know that for many years every Wright sermon was audio and/or video taped, broadcast on local TV, and for the last few years, on the Internet. Doesn't anyone find it interesting that to date there are still only like a couple of short excerpts from 2 sermons with that kind of stuff in it?

"You think Catholic lay people have anything to do with decisions about Priest assignments?"

You think Obama had anything to do with Wright's sermons?

"whatever."

I'm just looking for a little consistency here. Obama is expected to leave his church because of things Rev Wright said, but Catholics get a pass for things their church did?!?

You think Obama had anything to do with Wright's sermons?

of course not. I simply questioned how he could stand that stuff. Perhaps it wasn't very often when Rev Wright acted like that. I never attacked Obama and in fact I would find it hard to believe that he agreed with those rants.

Your strawman bullshit is illustrating your obvious hate for Catholics.

I'm just looking for a little consistency here.

no your not. You are going elbow deep up your ass looking for something to deflect with.

and it's obvious

Nobody knows whether Obama was present when Wright said some of the racist and crazy stuff that was widely quoted during the presidential campaign. The McCain campaign and other Republicans must have spent hundreds of hours in opposition research looking for anything to tie them together and came up empty-handed.

Judging him by what he may or may not have heard Wright say is a ridiculously flimsy standard. He wasn't present every minute of the guy's life.

Judging him by what he may or may not have heard Wright say is a ridiculously flimsy standard. He wasn't present every minute of the guy's life.

Nobody said that. He was just associated with him for 20 years..........but not every minute.

Judging him by what he may or may not have heard Wright say is a ridiculously flimsy standard. He wasn't present every minute of the guy's life.

#78 | Posted by rcade


Ah willful ignorance, the last bastion of the hard left, reactionary liberal.

(shhh, don't tell Rogers about Wrights own comments today calling Hussein his son, or Husseins many many many comments about the importance of Wright in his life over the last 20+ years. shhhhhhhhh, don't tell Rogers anyone, he doesn't know any of this.)

He was just associated with him for 20 years...

Guilt by association is a flimsy standard. Unless you have proof that Obama was present during the worst of the Wright sermons or you have things he said in agreement with Wright's worst sentiments, you got nothing. Zip. Zero. Bupkiss.

Obama has established himself in the public eye through his speeches, his books, and his work from his community organizer days up to the White House. The American public does not believe he's a hater like Wright. They're not going to believe it simply because he knew the guy for 20 years.

shouldn't all Catholics have been held to the same standard once they found out?

Perhaps one who runs for president.

Oh wait, Kerry is Catholic.

I don't remember you giving a shit about any of this then.

In any case, I don't care about the congregation Danforth. I care about 1 family who attended that 1 church and how they tolerated that shit.

how appauling it is that you don't.

Wait, perhaps that is because you agree with Wright.

which is it?

hypocrite or ......well I guess the other choice is hypocrite.

LOL

The American public does not believe he's a hater like Wright. They're not going to believe it simply because he knew the guy for 20 years.

I don't either. I voted for him. But you are wrong about what the American Public might believe.


you got nothing. Zip. Zero. Bupkiss.

Good God what is the wrong with you RCADE? I'm not playing "gotcha". I consider Obama to be very intelligent and tolerant.

It is being willfully ignorant to ignore this relationship. Obama isn't some country bumpkin who didn't know who anything about Wright.

do you think Obama is that dumb?

It's interesting watching eberly try and defend those who support the catholic church and child abusers going everyweek but some how sees a difference in obama and his church...

There is a difference, obama's church is just WORDS but the catholic church actually abused children and eberly still supports the catholic church......now in real perspective who is the idiot.

There is a difference, obama's church is just WORDS but the catholic church actually abused children and eberly still supports the catholic church......now in real perspective who is the idiot.


Yeah, we all lined up and fucked them

put your spoon away moneyless. you'll only hurt yourself with it.

Good God what is the wrong with you RCADE? I'm not playing "gotcha".

When I said "you got nothing" I meant all of the people who want to hang Wright around his neck. Sorry if it came across as specific.

It is being willfully ignorant to ignore this relationship.

I'm not ignoring it. I said earlier I don't know what Obama ever saw in the guy, and I'd like to see a journalist dig into the relationship. I just don't believe he was exposed to the worst of Wright.

do you think Obama is that dumb?

He'd have to be dumb to stay around Wright if he heard the worst of his sermons. And I don't think he's dumb. The formidable Clinton machine would've eaten him for lunch if he was.

I'm not ignoring it. I said earlier I don't know what Obama ever saw in the guy, and I'd like to see a journalist dig into the relationship. I just don't believe he was exposed to the worst of Wright.


And I don't believe the Obama's are all that religious. They attended church for stature reasons. He should have been more selective.

Maybe he should have become Catholic. Moneywar and Danforth would have been fine with that also....

:-(

Eberly,

I believe obama supports wright about as much as you support the pedi-priests but for some strange reason you can't seem to grasp it. Politics.....

"Your strawman bullshit is illustrating your obvious hate for Catholics."

You're full of shit. I grew up Catholic and love the church. I just wish it would act a little more Christian. But this is bullshit, taking Obama to task for what his preacher said while giving a pass to parishioners for what the Catholic leaders did. If Obama is expected to leave his church over rhetoric, shouldn't Catholics be expected to leave over behavior?

"hypocrite or ......well I guess the other choice is hypocrite."

Yes, it's very hypocritical. Especially considering one was rhetoric, and the other, active commission.

"Oh wait, Kerry is Catholic. I don't remember you giving a shit about any of this then."

Seeing as how I wasn't on this blog when Kerry was running, I'm not surprised.

"Wait, perhaps that is because you agree with Wright."

Wow...that's desperate.

So, Hussein is just stupid and only using Wright to promote his political ambitions.

The whole, he converted me to Christ, he married my wife and I, he baptized my children, one of his hateful speeches was the basis for my first book, I attended his church for 20+ years, I consider him by uncle.....

All that is just fluff, never actually happened.

In fact, it is most likely a creation of Fox news!

Sargent Schultz would be proud.

(everyone but Rogers should read this, but don't tell Rogers about it, sssshhhhhhhhhhh, he doesn't know any of this, it's a secret.)


article.nationalreview.com

The "Catholic Church" didn't abuse children. It's not their doctrine that homosexuals abuse children. The priests did not support abuse of children. There were no sermons announcing and supporting such indiscretions.

Unfortunately, the Church was infiltrated on all levels by homosexuals, who co-opted institution for their own purposes. I am not aware of any Catholic cleric who adopted child molestation as a virtue and proudly announced its perpetration as a church function.

Such nonsense. And such a diversion. It seems that some of you are so nonplussed by this refocus and the relationship between Obama and Wright that was glossed over during the campaign that you resort to all sorts of devices to discredit criticism of Obama on his choice of friend and mentor for two decades. Just how would any culpability of the Catholic Church if it did exist, justify Obama's involvement with a scumbag like Wright?

If Obama is expected to leave his church over rhetoric, shouldn't Catholics be expected to leave over behavior?

A lot of Catholics separate how they feel about their diocese with how they feel about the priests of their individual parish.

I am not a person to excuse the church -- I was asked to be an altar boy and declined. Some boys in my same church who accepted the offer were molested, and one was driven to suicide.

But at the same time I can see why some Catholics judge their church by priests they know, not by the larger church that deserves shame and bankruptcy for protecting molesters.

The priest who married my parents showed up at my grandfather's deathbed 35 years later to pray for him and comfort his children. That's a commitment to the family -- and many other families -- that lasted for decades.

If Obama is expected to leave his church over rhetoric, shouldn't Catholics be expected to leave over behavior?

How do people like you really function in real life?

Where do you think I give a shit about Obama leaving his church?

How many wrong assumptions can you make? Is this the basis of your argument? seriously?

this is ridiculous.

Your horrible strawman argument might have some validity if a Priest supported pedophilia from the Pulpit or if parishioners knowing supported a priest who they knew was a pedophile then okay.

That is if one of them runs for president.

again, you wouldn't give a shit if it was democrat.

"Your strawman bullshit is illustrating your obvious hate for Catholics."

You're full of shit. I grew up Catholic and love the church. I just wish it would act a little more Christian. But this is bullshit, taking Obama to task for what his preacher said while giving a pass to parishioners for what the Catholic leaders did. If Obama is expected to leave his church over rhetoric, shouldn't Catholics be expected to leave over behavior?

"hypocrite or ......well I guess the other choice is hypocrite."

Yes, it's very hypocritical. Especially considering one was rhetoric, and the other, active commission.

"Oh wait, Kerry is Catholic. I don't remember you giving a shit about any of this then."

Seeing as how I wasn't on this blog when Kerry was running, I'm not surprised.

#75 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-06-10 09:04 PM

I do know that on the 3 occasions I visited that church I didn't hear anything remotely racist or antisemitic. Although majority Black, there are members from all races there.

I also know that for many years every Wright sermon was audio and/or video taped, broadcast on local TV, and for the last few years, on the Internet. Doesn't anyone find it interesting that to date there are still only like a couple of short excerpts from 2 sermons with that kind of stuff in it?


What are you suggesting, Rogue, that this just reiterated view of Wright's is a matter of first impression for Obama?

Are you from your experiences at the church suggesting that somehow Wright did not previously hold the views that he just restated. Wright's views certainly seem "heartfelt," don't they?

What's your point, Rogue? Are you suggesting that Wright didn't hold those views, didn't express them publicly previously? What? Did they just materialize? Come on. Give it a break.

I was asked to be an altar boy and declined. Some boys in my same church who accepted the offer were molested, and one was driven to suicide.


If you ever run for president then I'm going to hold this against you. After all, those actions are worse than what Obama "heard" from the pulpit.

-Danforthmoneyless

I believe obama supports wright about as much as you support the pedi-priests but for some strange reason you can't seem to grasp it.


I told you to put the spoon down you friggin idiot.

Read up the thread. Tell me what I don't "grasp".

Now get to the emergency room and have the spoon removed.

jackass

Seeing as how I wasn't on this blog when Kerry was running, I'm not surprised.

But I'm sure that you hold this against Kerry......right?

So it's settled, President Hussein is simply ignorant and power hungry, he only attended Wrights church for self promotion and wore his ipod during every sermon and every private moment he was with Wright.


Any other explanation is false and most be proven beyond any doubt in a court of law, even those given by President Hussein himself.

Eberly,

You're the one trashing at obama while protecting and defending the church and saying they are not the same.

I could really careless what any church says, I do care what they do for ACTION and BEHAVIOR though.

Now, what faith a politician is........I could careless, it has nothing to do with how I chose my elected officials.

"The "Catholic Church" didn't abuse children. "

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. They just covered it up, lied about it, and passed the priests on to unsuspecting parishes and children. No abuse there at all.

Idiot.

Your horrible strawman argument might have some validity if a Priest supported pedophilia from the Pulpit or if parishioners knowing supported a priest who they knew was a pedophile then okay.

You're one delusional insecure religious idiot.

Take the spoon and feed it to yourself, you apparently don't grasp the basics of HYPOCRISY.

You're the one trashing at obama while protecting and defending the church and saying they are not the same.


Another PhD in Stupidity here.

I am doing neither. I am not trashing Obama. I am not defending the church.

what an idiot.

have the spoon removed yet?


#36 | Posted by Johnson

With all seriousness, and no intentional malice, you are an insane person, Johnson.

They just covered it up, lied about it, and passed the priests on to unsuspecting parishes and children. No abuse there at all.

An idiot is someone who believes his continued strawman bullshit argument is working and deflecting when there is no need to.

Obviously out of total paranoia.

Wow, I was looking around and found this.......Crazy racist shit here.....

*******

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a European people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.

It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community

Any guess which church would dare to put out this nasty, crazy, racist filth?

have the spoon removed yet?

Yes, it is up you A.. but the hole is so big you don't feel it.

Any guess which church would dare to put out this nasty, crazy, racist filth?

Thats okay. But if a related church 200 miles away had a pastor who screwed an altar boy 15 years ago and they had no knowlege of it anyway then that is much worse.

-moneyforth

www.trinitychicago.org


Oops, I fooled ya........It's Trinty United

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.

God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community

(shhhhhhhh, don't tell Rogers, he doesn't know about any of this.)

It's a secret.

Tell it like it is Rev.Wright because you are part of the new breed of American Heroes!!!

"Any guess which church would dare to put out this nasty, crazy, racist filth?"


Yes I do! This nasty, crazy, racist filthy,murderous Church is the "Church of Zionism" and the "Church of any & all Pro Israel Supporters"!!!

Anitcadillac must be on tape delay.

Take the spoon and feed it to yourself, you apparently don't grasp the basics of HYPOCRISY.


the spoon reference was referring to your trolling attempt to stir the pot.

I forgot you can't see past your nose though.

"But I'm sure that you hold this against Kerry......right?"

I would, the minute he takes Obama to task for not leaving Wright's church. See how that works?

"But if a related church 200 miles away had a pastor who screwed an altar boy 15 years ago and they had no knowlege of it anyway then that is much worse."

Nice to see you avoided the conspiracies, the cover-ups, and the passing of pedo priests on to the next unsuspecting parish.

And Catholics had knowledge when the Vatican promoted one of the worst perpetrators. If Obama is expected to skate due to sermons, Catholics should be held to at least the same standard due to actions.

"An idiot is someone who believes his continued strawman bullshit argument is working"

Don't be so hard on yourself, Eb. Just realize if you believe Obama should have left his church for what he may not have heard them say, then Catholics should leave their church for what they may not have known was happening.

A little consistency, please. Your double-standard is glaring.

Just realize if you believe Obama should have left his church

you suffer from the same retardedness moneywar suffers from.

I didn't say he should leave his church. Rather, I think he wasn't very religious and probably didnt' have the relationship with Wright he initially mainitianed. It was embellished for political gain.

I really don't know though.

But I'm sure you think Kerry was worse though.

Nice to see you avoided the conspiracies, the cover-ups, and the passing of pedo priests on to the next unsuspecting parish.


you were never Catholic you liar.

And Catholics had knowledge when the Vatican promoted one of the worst perpetrators.

did you?

liar

Why does Rev. Wright even have a "baby daughter" and why is he talking to her?

He's a sad character. But he is also an idiot.

"But I'm sure you think Kerry was worse though."

Not unless Kerry thinks Obama should be held responsible for what his church says, but he should be blameless for what his church does.

"did you?"

Yes, I did.

"liar"

You're wrong. GFU.

Not unless Kerry thinks Obama should be held responsible for what his church says,

Obama isn't responsible for what his church says.

"you were never Catholic you liar."

Eberly lies again: Parochial Grade School, Private Catholic High School.

You really get stupid and desperate when you're getting your ass handed to you, don't you?

"Obama isn't responsible for what his church says."

I'm glad we finally agree.

the person who thinks laypeople make decisions regarding priest assignments also knew about who WAS a pedophile.

the only way you could possibly know that is if you had personal knowlege.

If you did have personal knowledge then you would know that nobody else did.

which means you are lying.

#128

WTF are you talking about?

do you think laypeople have anything to do with preist asignments?

"do you think laypeople have anything to do with preist asignments?"

No. Do you?

No, they took care of all of that in the back rooms, as they were shuffling priests from one parish to another.

posted by danforth.

so you lie then or you lie now.

"do you think laypeople have anything to do with preist asignments?"

No. Do you?

anytime now....

which is it?

Danforth is comparing apples and oranges.

Going to a specific church and letting that preacher baptize your kids and lead you every Sunday in worship is building a relationship with that specific preacher.

If the Catholic in question goes to a church where the priest is corrupt or a pervert, then yes, they would be just like Obama spending 20 years listening to and "amen"-ing to Wright.

But the Catholic who goes to a Catholic church that has a fine upstanding preacher who servers his community well, and develops that relationship with that preacher, is not akin to the former examples. Or if Obama had attended a church of the same denomination as Wright, but who had a preacher who wasn't a friggin nutcase like Wright is.

Obama's not responsible for what his church says; he's responsible for attending it and providing his support and family connection to a preacher such as Wright.

I wonder how many other hard liberals here have lied about ever being Catholic.

I guess they think their hatred towards the church has more validity if the profess to having been an actual practicing Catholic.

Is written in some anti-catholic blogging instructin website?

BTW, I don't think this should be a big metric when used in judging a president. Obviously Obama is not acting on whatever his preacher taught him those 20 years. So good on him.

Eberly, I fuckin' hate when some dumb shit claims something I share is a lie in order to make a point; you're better than that.

"No, they took care of all of that in the back rooms, as they were shuffling priests from one parish to another."

Where do you think the decisions were made?

Are you drinking? You don't seem your usual self tonight.

"so you lie then or you lie now."

Again...WTF are you talking about?

I was talking about Danforth.

Obviously Obama is not acting on whatever his preacher taught him those 20 years. So good on him.

I wish more people had the sense to forget what their preachers had to say.

Where do you think the decisions were made?


in places where NO laypeople are invited whatsoever.

Bishops, Archbishops etc...

All practicing Catholics know that.

BTW Eb....still think I was never a Catholic, or are you ready to retract that lie?

I was talking about Danforth.

#140 | Posted by eberly at 2009-06-11 12:18 AM

I know you were.

As someone who respects your opinion, you should drop this line of reasoning because it's bull shit.

are you ready to retract that lie?

Danforth you are a smart guy. No doubt.

It is absolutely impossible for someone like you to have been a Catholic growing up and believe that laypeople sit around and "shuffle priests from one parish to another."

I'll give YOU one chance to retract that you have ever been a real practicing Catholic.

As someone who respects your opinion, you should drop this line of reasoning because it's bull shit.

The mistake Danforth has made is the equivilent of someone claiming to have a degree in Mathematics and not being able to solve a simple math problem.

My original point is the exact same as yours.

Danforth's argument is apples and oranges.

Danforth just isn't the type to lie about something like that. He's not THAT big of a douche bag.

=)

I agree that he isn't a flagrant poster but he has argued some very hard hard left positions and usually does it in a very passive manner.

Prior to this I have never accused him of lying.

"and believe that laypeople sit around and "shuffle priests from one parish to another.""

Where did I claim it was laypeople doing it?

I am out for tonight.

Danforth, if you find a link that somehow supports the notion that laypeople determine priest assignments then I'll be glad to look at it when I return.

Eberly just wants to distract you from the real issue: Catholic coverups of kiddie-diddling priests.

Getting into some irrelevant argument about how the Catholic church operates is a great way to do that.

Every time the Catholic church does something halfway decent, they follow it up with something incomprehensibly ridiculous / batfuck insane. The Church's failure to address the child molesters amid their ranks is just one maggot on this rotting piece of meat.


"a lifelong Catholic didn't hear about how much a priest desired little boys from the pulpit."


No, they took care of all of that in the back rooms, as they were shuffling priests from one parish to another. But if Obama was expected to leave his church, shouldn't all Catholics have been held to the same standard once they found out?

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-06-10 08:49 PM | Reply

#151 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-06-11 12:41 AM
Having barely glanced over the discussion, I believe Eberly's point was that there is a difference between going to a specific church of a problematic denomination that may have a great upstanding preacher, and going to a church and letting yourself be taught by a nut job.

Sure, the Catholic church as a denomination may be screwed up, but the Catholic building down the street may be run by a guy who cares about his community and would never touch a child in an inappropriate way and denounces the flaws in his own church.

"No, they took care of all of that in the back rooms"

"They" was referring to the Church hierarchy. Have you been misconstruing that all along?

www.israelnationalnews.com

jerusalem is what ITS all about. soon the vatican will have control and then you'll see ecumenism like you've never seen in your lifetime - even islam will cave to the catholic hierarchy. it is written. pay attention.

"Danforth's argument is apples and oranges."

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. If Obama is to be taken to task for his church, others -- like for example, Catholics -- should as well.

Now which one of those are oranges?

"I'll give YOU one chance to retract that you have ever been a real practicing Catholic."

Too funny.

Would you like the Confiteor in English or Latin?

This thread is far too serious, it is humorous to think obama should remove himself from a church from which one of its leaders is a loon.

Listen to the loon and go home saying to the wife, this sermon today was crap and looney I wonder what our friends think of it.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. If Obama is to be taken to task for his church, others -- like for example, Catholics -- should as well.


Now which one of those are oranges?

#156 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-06-11 01:48 AM

I already explained it. Developing a family relationship with a preacher is different than belonging to a denomination. Any given church of a problematic denomination can be filled with upstanding leaders and people, so a churchgoer may feel that the specific church they're going to is alright even if the denomination as a whole has troubles. However, developing a family relationship with a nut case like Wright and letting someone teach your children, get close to your family, and preach to you every Sunday is much more involved.

LoD,

Agreed.

That said, I don't think this should even be an issue, unless Obama was actually showing some signs of having been seriously influenced by Wright. So the whole thing is pretty moot anyway.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. If Obama is to be taken to task for his church, others -- like for example, Catholics -- should as well.


Now which one of those are oranges?


#156 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-06-11 01:48 AM

I already explained it. Developing a family relationship with a preacher is different than belonging to a denomination. Any given church of a problematic denomination can be filled with upstanding leaders and people, so a churchgoer may feel that the specific church they're going to is alright even if the denomination as a whole has troubles. However, developing a family relationship with a nut case like Wright and letting someone teach your children, get close to your family, and preach to you every Sunday is much more involved.

#159 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-06-11 02:44 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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LoD,


Agreed.

#160 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-06-11 02:48 A


Danforth is willing to admit his argument is apples and oranges. Just not with me.

It is still apples and oranges. that was my only point. Like I said repeatedly, I don't think Obama really exhibits any of characteristics that Wright displays anyway so it is a moot point.

But, AGAIN, the reference to the Catholic Church is stupid. what the church did is undeniable and absolutely horrible.

However, 99% of practicing Catholics didn't know this was going on and, in any case, none of it was supported or endorsed by any lay catholics.

Now, an apples to apples comparison would have been if Kerry (or any Catholic running for president) had promoted his relationship with his priest and it turned out that his priest had been a pedohpile then you would have a valid comparison.

It was a strawman argument.

Sure, the Catholic church as a denomination may be screwed up, but the Catholic building down the street may be run by a guy who cares about his community and would never touch a child in an inappropriate way and denounces the flaws in his own church.

#153 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE


Very good point.

Jackie Mason and Barbara Streisand issued a gag order to Obama's guru?

Obama can't be a Jew hater and a closet Islamist, dude. Make up your mind.
#20 | Posted by rcade at 2009-06-10 05:32 PM

I saw someone ask you about this before and you never answered. Why couldn't someone be both of these things?

"jerusalem is what ITS all about. soon the vatican will have control and then you'll see ecumenism like you've never seen in your lifetime - even islam will cave to the catholic hierarchy. it is written. pay attention."

Amazing! Finally we Catholics will get control and I'll be able to punch that bigot Billy Joel in the nose for "Only the Good Die Young?" You've made my day.
Funny how this thread began about an article covering Jews and turned into an attack on Catholics. Seems ALL religious issues get turned into Catholic/Evangelical Prot threads here. Free your minds, folks!

if the jews indeed are NOT allowing your potus to speak with this cretin of a man, then the jews should be applauded.

Nanc, if they can order Obama around, isn't he an IM-POTUS?

I think the black people have been far more forgiving than had the same thing happened to white people.

#12 | Posted by COMMONSENSE
Yes because so many of them alive today were enslaved. That argument is a strawman at worst, old and tired at best.

Any immmigrant here can go back and show some sort of mistreatment on a grand scale which caused their people to immigrate to the U.S. I guess the rest of us are just as forgiving.

Are the blacks so forgiving of their african brethren which sold them into slavery? Somehow that usually gets left out of the discussion with the libs.

and just think..

If we had been ALLOWED TO even talk about this racist prick during the campaign by the state run media...aMERICAN PRAVDA...we might have known more about how obama was going to 'flush' us...

but no...that just wasnt allowed without the risk of so many things tsk tsk

sometimes its not a blessing to be RIGHT SO MUCH OF THE TIME....

AND OH YEAH

ADD this fucking joke to the list of people we need to look into and put him on trial with the shooter from dc yesterday.....his hatred HAD to make the guy pull the trigger...at least that was the libs view on the tiller murder...

Wright is a semi-loose cannon in that he fired his wad but keeps on reloading. The Obamaman isn't a fool and knows that even a meeting with him just to say he is out of his mind, would har his image. Wright is one of those people that gets old crotchety and mean in his elderly years. Obama is smart to not even respond to this wack jobs comments. As far as "The Jews" preventing him from seeing the President, his own actions have assured that.

Did you happen to notice that Rev. Wright's view of Jews is the same as the whackjob who shot a guard at the Holocaust museum?

And yet the libtards will claim the whackjob was a rightie.

Truth be told, Rev Wright and the whackjob, and all other violent whackjobs in this country, are Jew hating leftists!

#173

theonebs

since I cant do better than this I will just leave reading it again.

nice work..

I saw someone ask you about this before and you never answered. Why couldn't someone be both of these things?

You're right. Obama could be a Jew hater and a closet Islamist. I'm not sure why I thought those ideas were contradictory. Not that I believe he's either.

Truth be told, Rev Wright and the whackjob, and all other violent whackjobs in this country, are Jew hating leftists!

#173 | Posted by TheOneBS

Sounds like you are trying to convince your self. Don't bother because it takes a pea brain not to realize that while wack jobs com in all flavors, the real serious conservative is far closer. No doubt the extremes of anything are to a degree wacked. The ultra-right wingers seem to rise to the top of the bottom of the heap.

is wright really that important----what religous leaders on the right had access to bush----in a irreligous america very few church leaders get calls from whitehouse for fears of backlash
jasman

In the grand scheme of things Rev. Wright isn't even a popcorn fart.

The voices talk to me and the say "We loves the Palin/Bachmann preserdenting in 2012" and then the say "We loves the tacos" again and again and again. Then the lady in the cotton scrubbies gives me the colored pills.

"At the Cannes press conference, Moore was asked to trace the path from Icon. "I don't hang out with Mel Gibson. I only know what I was told by my agent, Ari Emmanuel."

www.indyweek.com


Rahm Emmanuel, former Clinton adviser, former congressman from Illinois, current White House Chief of Staff, staunch supporter of Israel, and suspected by many of being "Mega", the Mossad mole in the Clinton White House, has a brother, Ari Emmanuel, who just happens to be Michael Moore's agent.

whatreallyhappened.com

#16 | Posted by Bani at 2009-06-10 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag:


NONE of what you posted is a secret or even news to me. It's all well known.

If this is news to you, here's some more....did you know that Ari is the agent 'Ari Gold' is modeled after in the show Entourage?

What was your point?

The McCain campaign and other Republicans must have spent hundreds of hours in opposition research looking for anything to tie them together and came up empty-handed.

When this whole thing erupted I remember seeing a website that had chronicled a bunch of Wright's more controversial sermons. Full transcripts were provided (thus giving context) and in many cases the actual audio was linked as well. None of it was quite as bad as the "God damn America quote" or some of Wright's more recently fiery comments - but a lot of it was pretty bad nonetheless.

In politics it is perfectly fair to tie a candidate to a preacher who was chosen early on as a spiritual advisor, whose church that was attended for over 20 years, who baptized both children and whose sermon was the inspiration for a book title.

When the Wright thing exploded and EVERYONE heard the "God Damn America" comment, Obama initially blew it off - he's like that crazy uncle. It wasn't until it just wouldn't go away AND when Wright made additional public statements that were politically toxic that Obama repudiated him.

I think it's very disingenuous to argue that Obama didn't know any of this shit about Wright. Having said that, perhaps his "Good" sermons were very inspiring. Sometimes we take the good with the bad. I had a friend in college who was a self-admitted racist. He rarely said anything offensive, but his racism bothered me nonetheless. But, he was also a great guy in so many other ways that I remained his friend in spite of his flaws. I am guessing this is probably the case regarding Obama and Wright as well, as Obama has never demonstrated any of Wright's nastier tendencies.

#181

Well put

Are the blacks so forgiving of their african brethren which sold them into slavery? Somehow that usually gets left out of the discussion with the libs.

#169 | Posted by ELCIDCE90


Without the demand there would not have been any selling.

And the US wasn't the only country. There are countries now that have slavery.

The US is better than that and we had too many laws and practices that lasted long after the slavery was stopped.

Thankfully--we are not that country any more.

We have our problems--but they are isolated.

I am Catholic. The above posts make me proud of it. You people are soooooo out there regarding my religion it makes me know I have the true one. Thank you!

JW said that 'he's is gonna call a spade a spade'
look in the mirror dick head

You do realize that this was said when discussing 400 years of slavery and no rights whatsoever in America, right?

I think the black people have been far more forgiving than had the same thing happened to white people.

#12 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

NONSENSE, such unprovable/irrational statements are part of your everyday position on the DR

Sorry I have to set the record straight. The operative word is fairness and that should be applied to all Americans. When it isn't people get resentful.

The odd thing is that many of the things that these so called "resenters " say (btw most just resent not hate) actually have some factual basis if you take the time to examine the facts.

For example check out the huge number of Jewish appointments by Obama to high level positions and his cabinet. Most of the Fed and Geithner's treasury deputies are Jewish as is he. Non Jewish Americans have the right to question "why am I being excluded?" and the reason for the under-representation in their own government without being accused of racism. If there is racism it surely isn't being perpetrated by the under-represented class. Also be assured the Jewish would be questioning if they were the under represented class. They keep score on their positions of influence to the third decimal point.

The bottom line is that the AmeriCorps IG accused a prominent Obama supporter of misusing AmeriCorps grant money. After an investigation, the prominent Obama supporter had to pay back more than $400,000 of that grant money. And Obama fired the AmeriCorps IG.


Go Figure!

#188 | Posted by bashthis

Hope and CHange

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