Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, June 10, 2009

The family of Dr. George Tiller announced today his Wichita, Kan., clinic Women's Health Care Services will be permanently closed. Tiller was shot to death at his church May 31. "The Tiller family wishes to assure Dr. Tiller's past patients that the privacy of their medical histories and patient records will remain as fiercely protected now and in the future as they were during Dr. Tiller's lifetime," his family said in a statement.

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Guess the title could have a double meaning, depending on how defiled your conscience is...

"Mission Accomplished".....

The Rtard Terrorist Sympathizers.

And the terrorists win.

In related news, sales of coat hangers have skyrocketed.

Hahahahahaha! This is hilarious.

The guy was killed, and then his family lost their asses when the gravy train closed shop!

Just think of the snowball effect it is going to have...Vacuum sales will suffer, the baby dumpster company will have one less stop to make, Kanrei will have to go elsewhere to find easy lays, hermaphrodite will be able to stay home for the entire "NCIS" marathon on USA, and the dumb whores that use abortion as a means of birth control will have to drive a little further down the street to fix the situation they got themselves in to.

the dumb whores that use abortion

Of all the stereotypical righty attitudes, I find their universal respect for all women not their mothers the most charming.

I'm mildly surprised at what gets the attention in any given obvious flame post of mine.
In this instance, it wasn't the fact I laughed at the man's murder, or the possible misery his family is going through due to the loss of family income, it was a throw away line about the women that use abortion as a means of birth control.

This place is fucked up.

This place is fucked up.

#7 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-06-09 04:56 PM


Thankfully, you're here to provide a little sanity.

That's what I'm talking about, itsy.

media.ebaumsworld.com

Does My Bucket = Three Cups?

Also, the End of Tiller's practice will give 101 more chances to try this old stand by: ipostr.com

In this instance, it wasn't the fact I laughed at the man's murder, or the possible misery his family is going through due to the loss of family income, it was a throw away line about the women that use abortion as a means of birth control.


It is the priority the left sets for themselves.

The unprincipled thinking of the left is staggering.


rwd

No really.

Let's start killing Generals and see if it works as well.

In related news, sales of coat hangers have skyrocketed.#4 | Posted by 726 at 2009-06-09 04:00 PM | Reply

Are you COMPLETELY ignorant of how late-term abortion works?
You think a coathanger could actually do it?

Do you know that a person in every abortion clinic is responsible for putting all the pieces of the aborted baby back together to make sure they "got it all?". Every finger, toe, arm, leg, skull portion...

You pro-choicers know that you're on the wrong end of science and medical technology on this issue by know I'd hope...

#14 | Posted by kirk at 2009-06-09 06:12 PM | Reply | Flag: makes up shit

The unprincipled thinking of the left is staggering.

That has to be my second favorite trait, that righties seem to uniformly view themselves as "principled".

Once again, Zatiochi gives up and makes baseless accusations.

You are the pettiest little poster here, Zat.

You think Ob/gyn's pull a wad of snot out of a woman and magicaly turn it into a baby like a Vegas magician?

#17 | Posted by kirk at 2009-06-09 09:24 PM | Reply | Flag: plays with imaginary friends AND makes up shit

Women will continue to get their medical needs catered to. Or die trying. The REAL tragedy in this thread is that critters like the bogus paratrooper and the right wing Donald continue to masquerade as human beings. I do understand that the pathetic posters derive some kind of psychotic pleasure from being covered in the shit of their betters, but I do get embarrassed at the thought that they and normal people belong to the same human race. herm

Women will continue to get their medical needs catered to. Or die trying. The REAL tragedy in this thread is that critters like the bogus paratrooper and the right wing Donald continue to masquerade as human beings. I do understand that the pathetic posters derive some kind of psychotic pleasure from being covered in the shit of their betters, but I do get embarrassed at the thought that they and normal people belong to the same human race. herm

Those who consider the murder of abortion doctors justified should consider how they will like it if pro-choice folks thought the same way and started murdering anti-choice know it alls.

Surely Liberals can find some doctor to continue killing babies like Tiller the Baby Killer. What's the problem, it's legal and he could make millions.


Those who consider the murder of abortion doctors justified should consider how they will like it if pro-choice folks thought the same way and started murdering anti-choice know it alls.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2009-06-10 08:44 AM | Reply


You pussies don't have the courage of your convictions to do something like that.

#23
If you're a pussy who doesn't have the courage of your convictions, you can get a job on Fox or right wing radio and incite Neanderthals to do the dirty work for you.


Women will continue to get their medical needs catered to. Or die trying. The REAL tragedy in this thread is that critters like the bogus paratrooper and the right wing Donald continue to masquerade as human beings. I do understand that the pathetic posters derive some kind of psychotic pleasure from being covered in the shit of their betters, but I do get embarrassed at the thought that they and normal people belong to the same human race. herm

#20 | Posted by herm
OMG, where to start. Medical needs? - Show me some statistics that prove most abortions are done for the medical safety of the mother.

Masquerade as human beings - if that aint the pot calling the kettle black - that might be the biggest self retorting retort ever on the DR.

Normal people - normal "people" do not advocate ripping babies out of their mothers wombs. normal "people" do not escort said babies to the death chambers. normal "people" do not hide this culture of death behind libtard talking point misnomers such as "medical needs" and "reproductive rights" - as much as it pains me to ask it - when is your time up on this planet? 80 year seems like enough torture for the unborn and human race.

If you're a pussy who doesn't have the courage of your convictions, you can get a job on Fox or right wing radio and incite Neanderthals to do the dirty work for you.

#24 | Posted by igmoramus at 2009-06-10 08:58 AM | Reply


Dummy,
I hate to be the one to point this out to you, but Tiller is dead. He was killed by somebody that had the courage of their convictions.
If you were able to read, I proffered that Danni's scenario would never happen because they are pussies.
All of your babbling about Fox and right wing radio has nothing to do with my statement. So either lock and load, or STFU.

This Dr performed the rare late term abortion.

Illegal, unless one can prove medical necessity.

And there goes your talking point...

He was killed by somebody that had the courage of their convictions.

So were the 9-11 victims. Good thing those terrorists aren't "pussies" eh?

So were the 9-11 victims. Good thing those terrorists aren't "pussies" eh?

#28 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2009-06-10 09:10 AM | Reply

You know who else isn't a pussy? Lance Armstrong...

I have no idea what your point was.
What did it have to do with this discussion? Oh, nothing. Bugger off.

"Normal people - "

Elcid commenting on what normal people do....now that is irony.

"You pussies don't have the courage of your convictions to do something like that."

What you label "the courage of our convictions", is called murder by sane people.

What you label "the courage of our convictions", is called murder by sane people.

#30 | Posted by danni at 2009-06-10 09:25 AM | Reply |


Yet you were the insane one wondering about what it would be like if the shoe were on the other foot. Don't pretend as if I were the one wondering what it would be like if pro-choicers decided to take up arms.

#26
Tiller was murdered by one of your fellow neanderthals who was incited by Bill O'Reilly. What don't you understand, buttmist?

I do not understand how you can be ok with abortion in the third trimester but against capital punishment.

I am pro-choice (first trimester) and pro-capital punishment.

Tiller was murdered by one of your fellow neanderthals who was incited by Bill O'Reilly. What don't you understand, buttmist?

#32 | Posted by igmoramus at 2009-06-10 09:28 AM | Reply


A) Tiller was killed by a man with the courage of his convictions
B) I could care less about abortion, abortion rights, or this douchebags murder
C) What I don't understand is how you can be oblivious to the fact that Tiller was killed by somebody with conviction, which was the point of the post you responded to, dummy.


So, where's your specific proof O'Reilly incited him, or are you talking out of your considerable ass, stupid?

Chairborne,
What I don't understand is how you can call an act of murder an act of conviction. Murder is an act that shows a complete lack of conviction.

Bwhahaha...O'Reilly. You are fucking priceless!

Better priceless than brainless

#2 | Posted by axe


"Let's turn it into a museum."

--- The Leftards ---


Chairborne,
What I don't understand is how you can call an act of murder an act of conviction. Murder is an act that shows a complete lack of conviction.

#35 | Posted by igmoramus at 2009-06-10 09:38 AM |


No proof about O'Reilly?

I'm thinking you have a different definition of conviction than most.

Romans 14:12

2 Doctors left to perform critical late term abortion in a nation of over 300 million. Here's to the women that will die for the cause of the worthless, lawless terrorists of the Right.

So 2 isn't good, but 3 was the magic number.

Here's an idea...Somebody, perhaps even you, can fill the void.

If there's a need, somebody will fill it. With only 3 around prior to Tiller getting bagged and tagged, I some how doubt there was an overwhelming demand for their services.

Elcid commenting on what normal people do....now that is irony.-DUMMI

Really? I think you are in error. The definition of normal:a form or state regarded as the norm STANDARD

I believe the standard for human beings is heterosexual - how do you fit that again? That is just one instance. Should I go on and examine your "abnormalities" DUMMI?

Chairborne,
What I don't understand is how you can call an act of murder an act of conviction. Murder is an act that shows a complete lack of conviction.

#35 | Posted by igmoramus

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

dictionary.reference.com
The definition that best fits usage in this situtation would be:
a fixed or firm belief.

I'm not sure that I would agree that this guy did not have conviction. I think maybe the other "C" word 101 used was the one you were contesting. I know when ever I got in fights at school the teachers tried to instill in me a sense of shame because of my vigilante tenancies. Physical violence is not courageous was their point. I am getting the idea that you are trying to make the same one.

Hahahahahaha! This is hilarious.

The guy was killed, and then his family lost their asses when the gravy train closed shop!

#5 | Posted by 101Chairpoodle

I make shit up because my brain is the size of a cashew.

- Chairpoodle

and the dumb whores that use abortion as a means of birth control will have to drive a little further down the street to fix the situation they got themselves in to.

#5 | Posted by 101Chairborne


I handled a claim between a motorcylce scooter and a woman on the sidewalk in San Francisco. This was about 1984.

The insured and woman were found later to have been related--brother and sister and this was a case of fraud.


But during the course of the litigation--we obtained her medical records. She claimed the impact caused her to get a miscarriage. A serious allegation.

In reviewing this woman's records it was noted she had "five live births" and "25 abortions".

That's right--25 ABORTIONS.

So while 101 might be painting a broad brush with his comment--there is some truth in it as well.

Murph,


I have an uncle who, until recently, was a claims adjustor for workman's comp.

My wife spent 3 years in the temporary job staffing industry.

The 2 of them have some classic stories.

My personal favorite was when my wife got the drug-screen back from the clininc on a guy named "Terry", yes it was a guy, who was seeking work. The clinic worker informed my wife, verbatim, that:

"I have good news and bad news...the good news is that Terry's drug-screen test came back negative. The bad news is that he's pregnant."

I have an uncle who, until recently, was a claims adjustor for workman's comp.#47 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2009-06-10 12:38 PM | REPLY | FLAG: My family Whips the Wounded and I'm Damn Proud of it.

#47 | Posted by JeffJ

FF

As for this clinic closing--another will open in it's place.

I would rather have had this clinic closed under legal reasons--not because the doctor was killed.

The consensus at coffee this morning was that we need to start the search for a female volunteer to die on an operating table because she couldn't get a late term abortion to save her life.

We do think that the volunteer should be from among the "pro-life" lunatics who cheered the brutal assassination of this humanitarian. I have no idea if "101" or rwd, Johnson, Thommy or The Cid have mates - I'd tend to doubt than any woman could put up with THAT shit - but surely they'd volunteer. herm

"The family will honor Dr. Tiller's memory through private charitable activities."

I guess that would be other organizations that dismember unborn infants. I never new Dr Mengele has a charitable organization and how proud the left is to continue his legacy

"I never new Dr Mengele has a charitable organization and how proud the left is to continue his legacy."

What you never knew turned out to be correct. Dr. Mengele doesn't have a charitable organization and the left does nothing to continue his legacy.

Feel free to get on with the business of trying to understand the things you think you do know.

I guess that would be other organizations that dismember unborn infants. I never new Dr Mengele has a charitable organization and how proud the left is to continue his legacy

Posted by WI_Hunter

I understand DAMs international www.flcv.com

suggests birth defects may be related to mercury/silver older folks teeth

Those who consider the murder of abortion doctors justified should consider how they will like it if pro-choice folks thought the same way and started murdering anti-choice know it alls.

#21 | Posted by danni

danni wants to end wonmen's sufferage...right danni

So DOC you already tried to give to Dr Mengeles organization and found out it dosent exist. Keep trying maybe you can find one that sticks a ice pick in the infants head and suckes the brains from the skull and then cuts them up all. Of course it will be for the concern of the mothers mental and physical health, or as in most abortions mostly just for convienence of the mother.

For the left the new birth defect is that the sex of the baby is wrong for the color of the room they have waiting.

"So DOC you already tried to give to Dr Mengeles organization and found out it dosent exist."

No, I didn't. Three reasons: (1) Mengele is dead; (2) Mengele was a Nazi; and (3) there is no such organization.

Your comparisons are arrant nonsense. Just be thankful you live in a country where being hopelessly clueless isn't a crime.

Maybe, Doc, we should push to make hopeless cluelessness a crime. A misdemeanor if not a felony. Just when we think we have all fetal rights idiocies neatly answered and stowed away for the next "Christian" murder, along comes this Hunter critter to show that they haven't heard a goddam thing. herm

fetal rights idiocies neatly answered - HARM

Only in your demented mind - or what the dementia has not taken.

Comparing an organization that sticks a ice pick in the head of an infant and sucks the brains out with a late term abortion doctor is nonsense? Either you are completely clueless or a liar. Either one speaks volumes of you.

Try again to show us you are not clueless.


Maybe, Doc, we should push to make hopeless cluelessness a crime. A misdemeanor if not a felony. Just when we think we have all fetal rights idiocies neatly answered and stowed away for the next "Christian" murder, along comes this Hunter critter to show that they haven't heard a goddam thing. herm

#59 | Posted by herm at 2009-06-10 04:25 PM
A self retorting tort.
Your in the right place Herm. You do realize that you are up against science when you claim that aborting a late term pregnancy is not killing right? Or has the kool-aid you been drinking destroyed all common sense?

I do get a feeling that in #61 Hunter lost track of what he was trying to sputter. herm

obviously the death penalty is not appropriate for Roeder...maybe a gag order? Like the one on Sibel Edmonds?

www.justacitizen.com

not to change the morbid subject:>)

Herm if you cant keep up or if the information it to complex for you just read and try to comprehend what you can. Kind of like what your teachers in school had you do. Or where you in school before the mentally disabled were being intergrated into the classroom?

Hahahahahaha! This is hilarious.

The guy was killed, and then his family lost their asses when the gravy train closed shop!

Just think of the snowball effect it is going to have...Vacuum sales will suffer, the baby dumpster company will have one less stop to make, Kanrei will have to go elsewhere to find easy lays, hermaphrodite will be able to stay home for the entire "NCIS" marathon on USA, and the dumb whores that use abortion as a means of birth control will have to drive a little further down the street to fix the situation they got themselves in to.

#5 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-06-09 04:08 PM | Reply | Flag:


The Terrorists have won.......and 101 CHEERS FOR THE TERRORISTS.

Typical Shitbag.

I don't want the death penalty for Roeder either. I don't believe in the death penalty. Roeder should spend the balance of his days caring for damaged children whose mothers couldn't get abortions. herm

damaged children whose mothers couldn't get abortions - so you are volunteering then?

Surely Liberals can find some doctor to continue killing babies like Tiller the Baby Killer. What's the problem, it's legal and he could make millions.

#22 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-06-10 08:46 AM | Reply | Flag:


Why do you love the domestic terrorists so much?

Vacuum sales will suffer - Stillborne


Sorry dude, there goes your Saturday nights..

Yes, Im double posting



Here are some more specifics on the Domestic Terroristist Scott Roeder and his whacked out affiliates Operation Rescue who are largely responsible for Tillers Assassination.


Operation Rescue harassed Tiller whereever he went along with women who needed medical attention from him. He was forced to wear a bullet proof vest, and traveled in a bullet proof car. Operation rescue drove billboard trucks around cities with Tillers picture plastered on the side.

Operation Rescue was responsible for misguided evidence provided to the failed prosecution in the trial where Tiller was acquitted just before his murder. This acquittal angered Roeder.

Operation Rescues President spoke out before the trial, as if Tiller had already been convicted of Op Rescues alleged criminal discoveries, saying he was destined for jail. No due process, just assumption and blame posted in daily press releases on their site.

Operation Rescue did not want to admit that Roeder was upset at the result of a trial they instigated which proved nothing, a trial Roeder followed on their website as they posted the "Tiller Watch" stalking his every move.

Operation Rescue did not want to admit that he was in frequent contact with their senior staff member Sullenger who told Roeder when and where Tiller would be on trial.

Operation Rescue did not want to admit that Roeder had Operation Rescues phone number in his truck in plain sight at the time of the Assassination.

There were many posts by Roeder on Operation Rescues website, but they pulled the content from their web site after the Assassination because they did not want to face the reality and scrutiny that Roeder was connected with Op Rescue. Good thing their site was accessed and recorded by others before they did removed his posts out their own guilt, else the truth would be buried by them. But that's only a minor piece of the association between Tiller - Op Rescue - and Roeder.

How do I know this? I went to their website which has a press release stating Op Rescue has no connection or bears no responsibility for the action of Roeder (even though their baseless accusations lit the fuse to Roeder's ticking timebomb mind).

I expect pro-lifers to protest the funeral they are responsible and dance on his grave afterward, the rest of the country will look at pro-lifers as whacko freaks who cannot respect life, and won't that be ironic. Their fringe elements are out of control and their leaders are all just looking up and whistling, doo dee doo, we have no responsibility towards this...

If Tiller was in jail, this wouldn't have happened. I guess the jury failed him by deciding to let him go free.

The headline should read

Assassinated Doctor's Clinic Closes

The consensus at coffee this morning was that we need to start the search for a female volunteer to die on an operating table because she couldn't get a late term abortion to save her life.
. herm#51 | Posted by herm at 2009-06-10 03:17 PM | Reply |

First of all, it's extremely rare for such a case; second of all, prolife acknowledge that surgical abortions are needed when it will kill the mother (and the baby's not viable).

I do know a mom in our town with cancer who refused chemo to save the baby. She died, the baby lived, but that was HER choice.

Third, you don't give a crap about all of the ladies that die from LEGAL abortion. Abortion is terribly destructive to the moms alone, physically, mentally, emotionaly.

well I can certainly understand the trauma of a catholic woman having a necessary abortion when the pope spouts nonsenseabout abortion being worst than cigarette smoking (or what was it again?)

I expect pro-lifers to protest the funeral they are responsible and dance on his grave afterward,

The funeral was 4 days ago. No protests that I know of.

Nice prediction idiot.

Closing of Tiller's clinic was on the horizonCharlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 6/10/2009 6:00:00 AMThe family of murdered late-term abortionist George Tiller has announced that the Wichita clinic where he practiced will close permanently.On Tuesday, Tiller's family said in a statement that Women's Health Care Services, Inc. -- the abortuary operated by the slain abortionist -- will be "permanently closed." While the clinic was operational, literally tens of thousands of unborn children were killed under Tiller's guidance and participation.Headquarters for the pro-life groupOperation Rescueare located next door to the clinic. OR president Troy Newman labels the announcement a "bittersweet moment," pointing out that his group is always jubilant when a notorious abortion facility closes its doors."But the most important issue is that baby's lives will now be spared. Down Syndrome babies lives will be spared," he specifies. "Gone are the days of the incinerator that burns the flesh from the little baby boys and girls who are thrown into it."At the same time, Operation Rescue is deeply saddened by the method in which the abortion clinic closed. "[Tiller had] been circumventing the law [in this state] for a number of years, and in two months we were certain that we would have had his medical license revoked -- and the same end would have come to this abortion clinic," Newman points out.Instead, Tiller was gunned down at church and a suspect is in custody. The killer's actions have been denounced by Newman and numerous other leaders in the pro-life community.


www.onenewsnow.com

How do I know this? I went to their website which has a press release stating Op Rescue has no connection or bears no responsibility for the action of Roeder (even though their baseless accusations lit the fuse to Roeder's ticking timebomb mind).


what do you expect?

they are covering their ass. Mostly over their civil litigation exposure.

Tiller was acquitted 19 times?, too

Here are some more specifics on the Domestic Terroristist Scott Roeder and his whacked out affiliates Operation Rescue who are largely responsible for Tillers Assassination.

Do you want Operation Rescue to be prosecuted criminally?

I think Sullenger may not be completely forthcoming about the extent of her communications with Roeder.

The FBI is investigating now because he threatened there were more like him.

Im just waiting to see what the whacko's do at the funeral.

Im just waiting to see what the whacko's do at the funeral.


read #76

"First of all, it's extremely rare for such a case;"

But idiot "pro-lifers" scream late-term abortion as if THOSE were the norm.

"Second of all, prolife acknowledge that surgical abortions are needed when it will kill the mother (and the baby's not viable)."

Gawd, that's mighty white of you. I think you lost something in translation.

"... a mom in our town with cancer refused chemo to save the baby. She died, the baby lived, but that was HER choice."

Yours too, I'm sure.

"Third, you don't give a crap about all of the ladies that die from LEGAL abortion. Abortion is terribly destructive to the moms alone, physically, mentally, emotionaly."

You have NO idea what I give a crap about. I ALSO know the consequences of having to give birth when its not right.

"Do you want Operation Rescue to be prosecuted criminally?"

If we can PROVE their conspiracy to murder, I surely do. herm

I ALSO know the consequences of having to give birth when its not right.

you have a vagina?

what was "not right" about it?

Does Eberly suggest with a straight face that you need a vagina to support reproductive rights? Eb also wants to know what can be "not right" about giving birth. The shortest answer is "if the doctor says so." A bit longer: "If the woman says it's not right." herm

Does Eberly suggest with a straight face that you need a vagina to support reproductive rights?

Of course not. You said you knew about the consequences. I asked for clarification.


Eb also wants to know what can be "not right" about giving birth.

just in your case.

The shortest answer is "if the doctor says so." A bit longer: "If the woman says it's not right."

so a guy gets no say? then what the fuck are rambling about then?

you have a very personal issue that has touched you which is why you are so passionate about abortion rights.

"Abortion is terribly destructive, physically, mentally, emotionally" begs for more response. One half of one percent of women do suffer some mental/emotional distress. One out of 200 is still too many. But the vast majority are brought on by churches and "pro-lifer" friends laying guilt trips on them. Physically? NEVER as much as NOT terminating the pregnancy. herm

One half of one percent of women do suffer some mental/emotional distress. One out of 200 is still too many. But the vast majority are brought on by churches and "pro-lifer" friends laying guilt trips on them

prove it or STFU

"... so a guy gets no say?"

Sadly, that is the case. A guy gets no say. Live with it.

"you have a very personal issue ... which is why you are so passionate about abortion rights."

I've posted about that. A daughter raising three happy healthy sons because she had a choice in the '80s. A step-daughter dead in the water in her mid-30s - NO skills - because "pro-life" yahoos got to her at a vulnerable time. An ex-wife - 42 years an ex - who had to go to Tijuana - long before Roe because she made one mistake. It was appalling. But I'm there because I deem forced motherhood to be slavery. If you missed it, we don't do slavery any more. herm

A daughter raising three happy healthy sons because she had a choice in the '80s.

your daughter had an abortion and your step daughter didn't.....correct?

What was the result of of your step daughter's child? How is she doing?

Correct. A 16-year-old near genius who will finish college ahead of his mother, who is making the best she can of her life, which is really quite drab. Thanks for asking. herm

Sadly, that is the case. A guy gets no say. Live with it.

I live with it fine. I don't knock girls up.

Sadly, that is the case. A guy gets no say. Live with it. "I live with it fine. I don't knock girls up." We know you to be perfect, Eb - celibate or monogamous, or maybe you underwent a vasectomy once thinking it was a circumcision. Not everyone is in quite so exalted a state. herm

A 16-year-old near genius who will finish college ahead of his mother,

Does she still think it was a mistake? Sounds like she should be beaming with pride and satisfaction that she choose to have him.


Let's go down another road Herm.

Imagine another couple. Father.....8th grade education. Mother.....high school.

child they didn't plan. Father even had a heart attack upon learning the news that his wife was pregnant. (Father in his mid 40s).

no money.....none.

however they accepted that they held a life in their hands and buckled down and made it work.

guess where I'm going with this........

Does she still think it was a mistake? A question she won't touch. I have my suspicions, but they're worthless. I fear I know where you're going, Eb: The Eberly bio, and I don't need another "choose life" commercial. Yeah, it might have been Beethoven. Or Eb. More likely Hitler or Manson. I place little faith in anecdotes proving a point, Eb, but then you don't believe statistics ...

I'm called to dinner. California. It's late. Then a Netflick. We'll talk again. herm

The Eberly bio, and I don't need another "choose life" commercial.

I understand, yet your passion is based on what happened no further than the confines of your own home.

But someone else testifies about their own personal experience and you dismiss it.

figures.

This obviously goes back to your ex wife and whatever went down there.

That is a lot of abortions in your life Herm.

One of my nieces who was an unwanted baby by some but not my sister in law, was put up for adoption at birth.
She is black and was adopted by a white family.She is the valedictorian of her class on her way to a wonderful life.
Herms callousness to human life did not even let him give his daughter options but instead blames "pro lifers" for her predicament.
Throwing away human life as a form of birth control is just plain morally wrong.
If herm stepped up as a father should,he could of one day been proud.
Herm is an evil cruel man whose stench precedes him through every post.

rwd

The "don" talking morality is like Bush talking peace on earth. My "callousness to human life" may need some self-serving amplification; for Eb and anyone with REAL human compassion, this is me:

I am and always have been first a civil libertarian. I hold civil rights, essential human freedoms, sacred. I sent the ACLU my first bucks around 1960, when We The People gassed Caryl Chessman as our gov was unavailable at sea. I support women's rights, gay rights, racial equality, peace as preferable to war, keeping our earth from over-heating or choking in its own pollution. I belong to Americans United for Separation of Church and State, Amnesty International, half a dozen pro-choice organizations, PBS and NPR, opponents of the death penalty and anything else focusing on life. REAL life. People come ahead of fetuses.

Anecdotes are cute, Eb. Sometimes even interesting. But numbers are real. herm

Operation Rescue, hates to see the clinic closed. So many people and operations set up in this Kansas town. They hate to see a target of their hate actually gone.

What to do about it?

They're trying to buy the clinic and turn it into their own operation center.

That speaks volumes about callousness of the pro-life movement.

Ah herm, you suppose that those positions confirm your self-evaluation as one of nature's noblemen.

And you are so smart and definitive. You known that "People come before fetuses," whatever that means to you. You dismiss a living creature, a human who is able to survive if not killed in the process of removing that life from the womb that heretofore sustained it, as having no value, and that once a breath is taken that value supersedes any other. Got it, herm. You certainly are dismissive of "life."

Your expressed empathy certainly indicates why people adore you.

Er, do you consider yourself prejudiced against one form of living creature as opposed to another, so that a life in phase 1 can do something as final as terminating a life in phase 2 on the basis of a whim.

You seem to be quite an opinionated hard-hearted guy herm, a man without ruth. And your feelings seem to be structured along stereotypical lines that are in accord with leftist ideologies. Don't you ever feel any shame at pursuing such a rigid heartless posture that you could stand by and watch a baby capable of exiting the womb and living being deliberately terminated. Here you are herm. Could you be a complicit participant-observer and experience no feelings of revulsion at this needless termination of a human life? Apparently so.

One less abattoir.

I wonder what the abortion fans would think of someone who injected poison into 60,000 dogs causing their bodies to misscarriage the fetuses?

Johnson, I am convinced you cannot, or will not, get it. I am anything but dismissive of life. My life has been pro-life if indeed a life can be. Do people really adore me? And ruth who? herm

But I'm there because I deem forced motherhood to be slavery. If you missed it, we don't do slavery any more. herm

HERM

And HERM continues to hide behind the lie. Sorry your family members could not make adult decisions very well herm. Like keeping there legs crossed if they did not want to become pregnant (100% evective way of not getting pregnant unless you are the Virgin Mary).

I've posted about that. A daughter raising three happy healthy sons because she had a choice in the '80s. - she had a choice to keep her pants on - did she take it? Nope - then it was a WANTED pregnancy - quit lying


A step-daughter dead in the water in her mid-30s - NO skills - because "pro-life" yahoos got to her at a vulnerable time. - What, she was raped by pro-lifers? Otherwise, she took her pants off, rang the bell and won the prize - quit lying.

An ex-wife - 42 years an ex - who had to go to Tijuana - long before Roe because she made one mistake. Yep, and could not be an adult about the mistake and chose to make another more harmful mistake

It was appalling. You sure are. Piss poor excuses for supporting abortion HERM. I thought you had some sort of "real" tradgedy which made you pro-death. It seems that your only excuse is that your family was irresponsible in their sexual habits and looked for the quick out. Go figure, a lib blaming everyone but himself (or herself in this case) for their lot in life.

Kudos for the step daughter taking responsibility after the fact and keeping the child - I assume you love the grandchild. Maybe if you life long enough you will have the pleasure of escorting that grandchild to a death clinic in the future? I am sure you can only hope.

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Right wing nuts protesting the Funeral of a Martyr their culture killed. The moral indignation.


All these anti-choice slags are forgetting very improtant details.


ABORTION IS LEGAL - ABORTION IS NOT MURDER

Wingnuts like elcidce and johnson, who talk as if the law is not reality inspire wingnuts like Roeder to see themselves as modern vigilantes, but they are really Domestic Terrorists!

Abortion is legal and immoral.

Abortion is moral. Abortion is legal.

I dont think a woman should have to carry a nearly dead or deformed child in her stomach for 3 months.

I dont think a woman should be forced to bear and raise a child they feel they're not capable of raising.

Of course people that rant against abortion, probably don't want to pay for the welfare for that mother for 18 years either. These right wing morons are a contradiction unto themselves.

I dont think a woman should be forced to bear and raise a child they feel they're not capable of raising.
#108 | Posted by Repugnant

I don't think this woman should be having sex!

These right wing morons are a contradiction unto themselves.


#108 | Posted by Repugnant

Actually, if you EVER decide to think outside the box, you would realize how one-sided you are.

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