"taking the memo out of context."

ROFL....

"'Death Penalty is Racist' Memo"

That particular phrase isn't even in the memo.
ROTFLMAO!

The death penalty's arbitrary (indeed, haphazard) application raises obvious questions about the impact race (as well as wealth) has upon death sentences. That Sotomayor recognized those concerns more than ten years before she became a federal judge does not disqualify her from a seat on the Supreme Court. Nor does her expression of opinions about an issue of public importance long before she donned a black robe render her unsuitable. It would be strange to think that the only citizens who are fit to sit on the Supreme Court are those who have taken no interest in questions of public policy. Certainly, an affiliation with conservative organizations that hope to influence public policy -- most notably, the Federalist Society (pdf) -- has not been regarded as a bar to judicial confirmation.

keep up the good work, Kerrin.

Doc Sarvis hair is on fire and his ass
is-a -ketchin.

There's no such thing as a sure thing.

just ask Hillary.

#7 | Posted by 8roper| Flag: Incapable of Addressing the Topic

"not specifically disclosed in Sotomayor's questionnaire, Sotomayor did disclose, and provide senators with multiple copies of a 1981 letter"

fo sho

Indeed

Doc...I am not afraid of anyone providing more info and divergent views.

The more the better.

We report...people can read and decide .

Never mind that the death penalty has been applied in a blatantly racist manner for centuries in this country. More of the "originalist" bull shit from the conservatives, the same thinking would have prevented someone who acknowledged that slavery was wrong from sitting on the SC.

#7 | Posted by 8roper| Flag: Incapable of Addressing the Topic

#8 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-06-09 09:35 AM | Reply | Flag: Doesn't realize the issue is fairly cut and dried and there's is not much to comment on about this devious liar. Also doesn't realize own ass is on fire and should probably seek a bucket of water or fire extinguisher.

Never mind that the death penalty has been applied in a blatantly racist manner for centuries in this country. More of the "originalist" bull shit from the conservatives, the same thinking would have prevented someone who acknowledged that slavery was wrong from sitting on the SC.

#12 | Posted by danni

Yes, yes, "I hate the USA blah blah fuckin blah".

you REALLY should consider moving to Pakistan, or Afghanistan......

to see how they apply the death penalty over there to people who live "alternative lifestyles"

"Doc...I am not afraid of anyone providing more info and divergent views."

Kerrin - That's what's known as a straw man. (Hint: nobody said you're "afraid" of other info and views.)

Although the internal memorandum is not specifically disclosed in Sotomayor's questionnaire, Sotomayor did disclose, and provide senators with multiple copies of a 1981 letter she drafted on behalf of the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund. That letter states that "capital punishment represents ongoing racism in our society"....

So at least part of her understanding of capital punishment nearly three decades ago is known to the Judiciary Committee (assuming its members read the material with which they're provided).

What about that perception?

Wow, Cock Starvis sure showed up quick to deliver the official White House talking points. Do they give you a beeper?

"White House talking points"? From the Judicial Confirmation Network (the organization referenced in the link, bozo) and the WP story they cite? Gawd, you're really thick as a brick. Oh, please, say it ain't so, Joe. LOL.

Wow, Cock Starvis sure showed up quick to deliver the official White House talking points. Do they give you a beeper?

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2009-06-09 10:59 AM | Reply | Flag

No, TonyAroma just taps him on the top of his head and tells him it's "Go time".

Nobody said you were posting links directly from the White House, Starvis. It's just that any time a thread critical of Obama or his appointees goes up, and 15 minutes later someone's already done their research and posted a rebuttal, I can guess it'll either be you or SanAntonioRogue. You guys are good sheep that way.

No strawman intended Doc.

I was just pointing out that I welcome your posting of other points of view.

Still...the point remains ...
FTA "But what she omitted, and what is far more substantive and revealing," Long told CNSNews.com, "is the underlying policy memorandum that she and two other task force members sent to the board of the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund with all their reasons for opposing the death penalty, and arguing for the organization itself to take the stand that it ultimately did take in its letter to Gov. Carey."

showed up quick to deliver the official White House talking points. Do they give you a beeper?
#17 | Posted by JOE

Oh, please, say it ain't so, Joe. LOL.
#18 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Nobody said you were posting links directly from the White House...
#20 | Posted by JOE

Now, that's what I call a nuanced position.

You can be delivering the official white house position and supporting it with content from somewhere else. I suppose you think the white house is the only source for a pro-white house position? God you're dense. Anything to avoid the fact that you show in 15 minutes to make sure everyone knows there's "nothing to see here."

Can't help but wonder why Joey, et al are so intimidated and/or offended by presentation of opposing viewpoints to their chosen one? Would it be preferable to just have one side presented here with no rebuttal?

That would be sorta dull, wouldn't it?

Does anyone here seriously believe that the death penalty has not been applied in a racist manner?

Yes, yes, "I hate the USA blah blah fuckin blah".

you REALLY should consider moving to Pakistan, or Afghanistan......

to see how they apply the death penalty over there to people who live "alternative lifestyles"

#14 | Posted by 8roper at 2009-06-09 10:11 AM | Reply | Flag

No one said anything about hating the USA except YOU. It seems you think that since we don't kill gays, they should be grateful. Comparing a shitstain on the US to a worse shitstain in another country doesn't make our shitstain less of a shitstain.

Getting rid of the shitstains is what makes our country great---not saying our shitstain isn't as bad as their shitstain. Now if we could just figure out how to get rid of shitstains like yourself, we would REALLY have a great country. Maybe YOU should move to Pakistan---they seem to have your sense of values.

#24 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-06-09 11:57 AM

Nobody's intimidated by opposing viewpoints. The fact that the same two people instantly show up in every thread to deliver the only position they hold ("You've got it all wrong, Obama and his appointees are great") is what's noteworthy.

No one said anything about hating the USA except YOU. It seems you think that since we don't kill gays, they should be grateful. Comparing a shitstain on the US to a worse shitstain in another country doesn't make our shitstain less of a shitstain.

Getting rid of the shitstains is what makes our country great---not saying our shitstain isn't as bad as their shitstain. Now if we could just figure out how to get rid of shitstains like yourself, we would REALLY have a great country. Maybe YOU should move to Pakistan---they seem to have your sense of values.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

you appear to be fixated on a particular problem right now.

get on your moped, run down to the laundry mat and wash your underwear.

Nobody's intimidated by opposing viewpoints. The fact that the same two people instantly show up in every thread to deliver the only position they hold ("You've got it all wrong, Obama and his appointees are great") is what's noteworthy.

#27 | Posted by JOE

What possible difference could it make to you who posts what here? If you want to debate the issue one way or the other, do so. Feel free to link any additional articles or info that supports your position. That's the way a blog like this works.

Or is it just easier for you to criticize the messengers rather than discuss the message?

Joe obviously has some deep personal insecurity issues.

You two show up like clockwork any time a thread critical of Obama or his appointees is posted. You'd be taken more seriously if it wasn't so easy to predict who the first post in this or any similar thread was coming from. If you think pointing that out constitutes "insecurity," maybe you're just "criticizing the messenger."

You two show up like clockwork any time a thread critical of Obama or his appointees is posted.
#31 | Posted by JOE

Gawd, you're really, sadly paranoid, aren't you, Joey? I won't ask you for chapter-and-verse, because you wouldn't be able to supply it to the extent necessary to prove your non-point. Certainly, SA and I are on some of the same threads and even -- oooooooh! -- at the same time. But the point remains, so what? WTF do you care? You're on threads the same time other boobs who share your views are. Do you see me whining and whinging? Grow up, Joe.

As for "criticizing the messenger," Joe, you haven't got a message worthy of the name.

No need to get so defensive. If you want to be a sheep who provides the official white house position, that's your prerogative. I'm just here to tell you how pathetic it looks.

You'd be taken more seriously if it wasn't so easy to predict who the first post in this or any similar thread was coming from. If you think pointing that out constitutes "insecurity," maybe you're just "criticizing the messenger."

#31 | Posted by JOE

I don't think anybody but you gives a flip. So, yes, I'd have to say that constitutes either some sort of insecurity, or maybe just pettiness.

As to being taken seriously or not, judge the information posted and the articles linked. Its not like we're merely posting unsubstantiated personal opinions.

I'm just here to tell you how pathetic it looks.

#34 | Posted by JOE

I think, perhaps, a somewhat different view of what constitutes "pathetic" emerged today.

No need to get so defensive.
#34 | Posted by JOE

Time for you to post an autobiographical "Why I'm Feeling Screwed, Blued, Tattooed, Oh So Sad, and Need a Nap" thread. I'm sure nobody'll care, but it might make you feel better.

Keep pounding away guys. You're doing great. What happens when an anti-Obama thread goes up at 4AM? Do you work in shifts? (I know, how could you even sleep knowing it might happen?)

What happens when an anti-Obama thread goes up at 4AM? Do you work in shifts? (I know, how could you even sleep knowing it might happen?)

#38 | Posted by JOE

I don't know Joey. Since it seems so important to you, why don't you stay up and monitor.

Do you see me whining and whinging?

#32 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-06-09 12:31 PM | Reply

Is there any other way to see a grown man sayng "Gawd" repeatedly? You're either the biggest fucking faggot on the planet, a 14 year old girl, or whining and whinging.

What happens when an anti-Obama thread goes up at 4AM?

#38 | Posted by JOE

Wet Liberal beds.

Wow, Cock Starvis sure showed up quick to deliver the official White House talking points. Do they give you a beeper?

#17 | Posted by JOE

"Cock Starvis", "Northgay"...

Anybody sense a theme here from Gay Joe?

Don't forget Gay Ray.

The best I can do for you is "Nullifagian." Doesn't have much of a ring to it.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian

The Joe-Wissy-Cher tag team might function better if it didn't have to lug around a bundle of juvenile, uber-rightist, "woman"-is-a-slur, afraid-of-gays insecurities. Such a bunch of broken-down pinatas.

Gawd!

Afraid of Gays, Doc? Wanna fight?

If the death penalty has been unfairly racist, which branch do you blame?

Legislative
Executive
Judicial

?

Which part of gov't has been the most racist?

If the person is on death row - did they deserve to be there and can you look beyond their race to make that decision?

Should mercy be equally distributed or distributed on the merits of each individual case?

Has anyone really done that much research to individual cases or do they simply point at numbers and assume the numbers tell the truth.

I tell you Bush saved 600,000 prisoners from being undernourished in the prisons because of his policies.

Afraid of Gays, Doc?
#47 | Posted by wisgod

Hardly. Don't worry, you'll get over it. Although when I see the likes of you, Joe, and Cher yammering on the same tired themes, day in, day out, I can't help but think of little kids shouting, "Nanny-nanny-boo-boo."

You'll be okay, long as you keep your night light on.

If the death penalty is racist, and a majority of judges are liberal, does that mean that a majority of liberals are racists?

I don't know. The statement was written 28 years ago. Why don't you go back, pull the figures together, do an analysis and let us know?

Although when I see the likes of you, Joe, and Cher yammering on the same tired themes, day in, day out, I can't help but think of little kids shouting, "Nanny-nanny-boo-boo."

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I'll have a talk with my colleagues and see if we can't be a bit more mature. Should we use the many Palin Threads to model our maturity after?

No, just stick with the current Romper Room personnas. Anything beyond that would be too much of a stretch.

"If the death penalty is racist, and a majority of judges are liberal, does that mean that a majority of liberals are racists?

#50 | Posted by ELCIDCE90"

No.

#50 If the death penalty is racist, and a majority of judges are liberal, does that mean that a majority of liberals are racists?

Only if a majority of judges issue the death penalty all the time.

Not to change the subject but has anyone noticed that since Oboma came on the scene, the libs have stopped calling Bush "Chimpy"?

Could that be because, No it couldnt be that.

But his wife really does look like a Gorilla.

Wonder how Chimpy is liking Texas? I'll bet Laura is kicking Chimpy's ass, for listening to Cheney and ruining his potential legacy. My gues sis Chimpy spends most of his time close din his den, playing Nintendo and whacking off to pictures of Buckteeth Condi.

"If the death penalty is racist, and a majority of judges are liberal, does that mean that a majority of liberals are racists?

#50 | Posted by ELCIDCE90"

No.

#54 | Posted by mOntecOre

yes

rwd

My gues sis Chimpy spends most of his time close din his den, playing Nintendo and whacking off to pictures of Buckteeth Condi.

Sounds like you and him got a lot in common, MountMe.

Wow. Devastating retort, Jak Me Nao. Did one of your cows suggest it? If so, the one you call "wife," or one of the ones in the pasture?

Wow. Devastating retort, Jak Me Nao

I work with what I've got, Marsha.

Did one of your cows suggest it? If so, the one you call "wife," or one of the ones in the pasture?

Did she break her ankle while sliding down one of those greased polls the Ricans like so much?

We can't all make 185s on our LSATs, MountMe.....

That's right - the world needs ranch hands too. Speaking of which, your pa's calling. The herd ain't gonna milk itself, cowboy. Now git! Heeyah!

sliding down one of those greased polls the Ricans like so much?

Either that or the Ugly Tree had a rotten branch on it.

"I work with what I've got, Marsha.

#61 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao"

I know you do, Tiny.

Does anyone here seriously believe that the death penalty has not been applied in a racist manner?

#25 | Posted by mOntecOre

Probably was a few in there that would be done for racist reasons.

There were some based on facts, lack of an adequate defense, being poor, being illiterate--any reason.

That is one reason not to have the death penalty except for Ted Bundy types.

But just keep them out of society forever.

Never mind that the death penalty has been applied in a blatantly racist manner for centuries in this country. More of the "originalist" bull shit from the conservatives, the same thinking would have prevented someone who acknowledged that slavery was wrong from sitting on the SC.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2009-06-09 10:01 AM | Reply

Also, never mind that we don't live in 1837 or 1940. Whatever wrongs that were committed in the past have been rectified.

Oh, Danni, that includes slavery.

The Supremes ruled, rightly, that capital punishment is a state issue. And, since the Supremes have already turned it back to the states, I don't much care what this woman thinks -- on capital punishment.

If Texas wants to execute people who throw a Lone Star can on the ground, then when you are in Texas, don't do that.

If Massachusetts wants to give a serial rapist/ murderer a luxury condo with cable TV and health care for life, then that's up to Massachusetts taxpayers.

Vernon, where's Massachusetts?

it was a joke

Sotomayor is a racist. So how can she use racism as an excuse to oppose something?

Sotmayor's thoughts are predicated on how anything will affect La Raza, The Race. Other considerations are secondary as they should be. After all, we need diversity, and all sorts of different folks on the court. As I detailed elsewhere, Sotomayor meets numerous criteria for diversity including being disagreeable. After all, disagreeable people require representation too. And she can provide the virtue of ignorance to matters relating to complicated financial matters as her virtues include he fact that she wasn't exposed to such matters as a victimized person developing in a deprived environment.

So ignorance is a virtue. Nastiness is a virtue. We try to accommodate all members of society in every capacity. Sotomayor is a lightweight, the equivalent of a midget as a basketball player in the NBA. We need such participants to make for "diversity." Diversity is by decree, a virtue, and one that overrides all other considerations, but it particularly overrides fitness and competency.,