Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Monday, June 08, 2009

This article purports to point out the difficulty in determining what is and isn't green. Reminds me of the early days of the recycling craze when we discovered that it took more energy to recycle some materials than it did to make them originally. This happens almost anytime emotion is put before science.

To that end.. while I don't disagree with the author's assertions that calculating total carbon emissions can be complex, I don't buy the underlying premise in the first place. That being, that humans are causing global warming. There's simply no hard evidence of it. In fact, the evidence isn't clear that we're still warming. This administrations emotional instead of science based polices in this regard are detrimental to every American.

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There's simply no hard evidence of it. In fact, the evidence isn't clear that we're still warming.

Wow.

" That being, that humans are causing global warming. There's simply no hard evidence of it. In fact, the evidence isn't clear that we're still warming. This administrations emotional instead of science based polices in this regard are detrimental to every American."POSTED BY NMG_NO AT 01:16 PM | 1 COMM

YEAH!

Cause every "real American" knows that all that garbage was already here!

Anyway, this reminds of the early days of steel before anyone knew how much more expensive than rock it was! And look how worthless that turned out too be!

Stay the Course!

You must get up pretty early to figure out all those, uhh "zingers" red. But you got us, all of us that ask for proof of concept, we are all just afraid of change. We shiver every night afraid that our blenders will magically change to touch panel buttons instead of a switch. Oh, how it sucks to be one of us asking for some reality injected into our beliefs. It pains us so, to reject any legitimate bit of conjecture and force ourselves to apply some cognitive thought before we start painting the end is near sandwich boards. We are so small, we are so weak, we are so pathetic, to let intellect rule us rather then blindness. You must show us the way oh great guru. Teach us to unquestioningly believe whatever we are told and give money to those that say we must. Bestow the truths of the ancients upon us that we may see the error of reality based sight. We can not survive without you wisdom, we need your irrelevant hyperbole to reveal how far from the righteous path our quest for real knowledge has brought us. We beg of you, make us your students, that we may be enlighten and the weight of reasonable skepticism be lifted from our shoulders.

Interesting article, but misleading. If the bus or train is going to be running anyway, you're not adding any emissions. Buses and trains are much more green than a vehicle with a single occupant.

Imagine if we replaced all buses and trains with cars. Less emissions?

"If the bus or train is going to be running anyway, you're not adding any emissions."


But the fact of the matter is that those same buses will run even if they have no one on board. Look in one some night, you will see one or two people. While they are more efficient transporting large amounts of people they are not for small groups. Single occupant to single occupant cars are far more efficient. I really doubt that a diesel bus makes more than 5-6 mpg which means that you could have ten cars on the road for the same consumption of fuel. Now cars cannot compete when buses are near or at capacity but typically only the very popular routes during peak hours can approach capacity. You still have the buses running a 3 in the morning with no one on them. As for trains, they are much more efficient, but expensive to build and you would have to factor in the building process to its overall "greenness."

It will be a bunch of no bid pork barral contracts for Obama-been-lie'n's banker buddies.

Alcohol powered batteries seems least radical and most economical. Nearly every device (car, laptop, modem farm, or marijuana farm can be outfitted with safe, non-flammable battery, fit-to-size that run on pure alcohol grown locally. All cars can be outfit with a cheap computer-bypass to mix their oxygen correctly and thus a local economy has been invented and no Saudi oil was used. Currently, alcohol fueled laptop batteries can last 16 hour versus the 3 for a regular lithium ion battery. It's far safer to transport alcohol than gasoline and it's as close to as clean burning as hydrogen vehicle emissions-wise. Locally grown organic crops are rotated, eliminating the need for artificial fertilization and less-organic pesticide use. Locally grown and fabricated replaceable hemp car carapace parts coupled with locally grown solar cells integrated directly into the hull and you have a low-fuel ergonomic retrofit for existing vehicles that any mechanic can install - meaning they won't be losing to sales of newer fully hybrid and electric vehicles. Mechanics win, current car owners win, local farmers win, environment and conscience win, we all get jobs, winner-winner feed me Seymour.

Our existing vehicular will outdate, but must more gracefully as our grandchildren retrofit them with their own hand-crafted fenders and the latest soft-core all-hemp survivable interior designs. How cute! Little Suzy has inventively installed a microwave oven and refrigerator for her trip to Lilithdrome 2009. She's sure to hookup with an environmentally conscientious hottie thanks to such a pympy ride! Here's to that future!

Well, Rethuglicans don't believe in science anyways, so what's your point?

#8 | Posted by LetUsPrey

Demtards act before they know the consequences of the science they are promoting. i.e. batteries for hybrids, CFL light bulbs, etc.

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