he has been denied phone privileges for the past two days, and needed his sleep apnea machine.

Waaaaahhh!

He knows other events are planned? Sounds like he just confessed to conspiracy.

What I find interesting about this whole situation is how certain fundos (we all know who they are) are ready to execute any guy with a Muslim name who's even suspected of terrorism, but they fall silent in this case.

Terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Sounds pretty cut and dry to me.

These same people also bitch endlessly about how bad postmodernism (*GASP*) and the consequent dissolution of moral absolutism has screwed up society.

The irony, in most cases, is lost on this group.

Terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Sounds pretty cut and dry to me.

These same people also bitch endlessly about how bad postmodernism (*GASP*) and the consequent dissolution of moral absolutism has screwed up society.
The irony, in most cases, is lost on this group.
#3 | Posted by Zarathustra

The irony, in most cases, is lost on this group.

Irony? Hell, you'd be a fool to expect a shred of common sense.

What Hitler did was legal in Germany. Ergo trying to kill him with a bomb was terroristic, Zarathustra?

Of course there will be more violence directed at doctors.

As long as the right wing lunatics feel that their voices are not being heard by politicos in respect to abortion they will continue to predicate this terrorism.

The right wing politicos will never address abortion let alone end it since it is too powerful of a recruiting tool for them to pander for votes.

What Hitler did was legal in Germany.
.......#7 | Posted by Diablo

......no, it was not legal in Germany to murder civilians.....

I wonder how the torture advocates on this site feel about this guy being tortured to give up what information he knows.

Sounds like he just crossed the line into terrorism- threatening violence and death unless US policy changes is certainly terrorism, right?

My god, these abortion doctors are dropping like flies! This is what, the 2nd one in decades...

If the guy has info, and it is a matter of national security (which it isn't), then waterboarding should be on the table. Unfortunately, that's just too difficult of a concept for lefty-loonies to grasp.

What Hitler did was legal in Germany.

#7 | Posted by Diablo at 2009-06-08 12:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

If what you posit is true and it may well be in the same vein that Nixon declared that if the President did it, it's not illegal, Bush lawyers declaring that ignoring the Geneva Conventions and Reagan et al selling weapons to off-limits groups were all legal....Hitler's crimes would have instantly arisen once they crossed the border boundary of any other nation. And for the record I believe that Bush, Nixon and Reagan all commited crimes with the respective conduct.

Effectively shooting your argument right between the eyes.

101,

This guy wants to talk so badly that noone needs to waterboard him. Just give him coffee, doughnuts and ask him "what's next"?

I've kept pretty quiet on the waterboard topic but truthfully, I consider it torture. It fucked me up.

The right wing politicos will never address abortion let alone end it since it is too powerful of a recruiting tool for them to pander for votes.

#8 | Posted by 726

Then why do the left wing politicos act like abortion rights are being threatened?

you are asserting they are not.

I happen to agree with you but you won't admit that it takes both parties to attend this masquerade party for it to be a real issue.

In other words, you are a sheep of the left.

Eberly-
re: Then why do the left wing politicos act like abortion rights are being threatened?

Because doctors who perform abortions are being murdered and clinics are fire-bombed? (just a guess)

Yes, the murdering of abortion doctors is an epidemic.

How many have been killed in the past 20 years?

Boyd? How many?

Boyd? Cooper? Badweek?

Nite.

I think I've seen the light, 101. Since what the Bush admin. did isn't torture, all those "limp-wrist" POW's are revealed for the whiners they are....

Regardless, the torture couldn't have been that bad. He lived for 54 years afterward.

#2 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-05-08 02:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because doctors who perform abortions are being murdered and clinics are fire-bombed? (just a guess)

#16 | Posted by BetelG

This was something those like you on the left were pissing and moaning about before Tiller was killed.

This was something those like you on the left were pissing and moaning about before Tiller was killed.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2009-06-08 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

You mean the last time Tiller was shot and his clinic was fire-bombed?

That was just a prank, though....

Boyd,

read up the thread. you must have a PhD in Confusion.

get back to me once you understand something.

Favorite quotes from 101:

My god, these abortion doctors are dropping like flies! This is what, the 2nd one in decades...

[about a Korean War POW who was tortured by the Chi-Coms]:Regardless, the torture couldn't have been that bad. He lived for 54 years afterward.

So Boyd, how many murdered abortion doctors have there been in the last 20 years? There must be a ton, because I'm guessing you've been trying to add them all up since I last asked you the question an hour and a half ago.

So Boyd, how many? How many doctors that perform abortions are being murdered in say the past 20 years? You'e mentioned it a couple of times, so it must be a lot, right?

Boyd? How many?

Cooper, do you know? Ask BetelG. Or badweek. Don't ask Barney, he's black.

Later.

Nite.

Are Mao and the pretend paratrooper retiring in mid-day? Do they not think one murdered physician is enough? Do they NOT think two is two too many? Do they think at all? herm

More deli clerks were killed performing their profession in the last week, than have abortion doctors in the past 35 years.

Do they not think one murdered physician is enough?

As opposed to your viewpoint that the 49+ million babies killed since 73 is not enough - I would laugh if you were not so pitiful.

And before you go the pro-life except for the death penalty route - the guy that killed tiller should be in jail for life.

"I would laugh if you were not so pitiful."

How many unwanted children have you adopted?

No babies killed, Cidney. We've had that discussion. You didn't listen. herm

Gitmo would be an appropriate place for this scumbag.

Given the opportunity, he is far more likely to kill somebody than some of the detainees at gitmo...

Boyd?

Nine Doctors killed.

Religion is behind this, as usual.

then waterboarding should be on the table.

You first.

9 Doctors in how many decades? Do you have a link?

Then why do the left wing politicos act like abortion rights are being threatened?

Same reason.

As opposed to your viewpoint that the 49+ million babies killed since 73 is not enough

How many were aborted before 73?

How many mothers died from back alley abortions?

I happen to agree with you but you won't admit that it takes both parties to attend this masquerade party for it to be a real issue.

Really? Funny I don't recall ever saying that the left is not using abortion rights as a tool to manipulate the voters.

It takes both sides.

And name calling devalues your opinions.

The violence will continue? Ha!

Wishfull thinking.

Lets get all worried and upset about the right wing abortion doc killers loose in the Nation...

ALL THREE OF THEM!

LOOK OUT, BABY KILLERS.

Go get the BLACK PANTHERS or the ACORN HOODS to protect you.

Wishfull thinking.

So murder is okay in your moral reality.

Good to know.

what complete bullshit.

here we have yet another thread about this guy and we only had one shortlived thread about the soldier who was killed in the TERRORIST ATTACK.
but that figures since the white house had to be SHAMED Into even making a comment and then it was lukewarm and halfassed..

so was it because the VICTIM OF THE TERRORIST ATTACK was white or because he wore the uniform???

and this doesnt even begin to mention the fuckin useless WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS who has turned into little more than another white house press secretary enmasse..

and there is reported to have been 160 hours of coverage on cnn of the BABY KILLER"s death and 37 hours of coverage on this soldiers TERRORIST ATTACK death.

what a bunch of dupes.

The wishfull thinking was on your part!

and LET ME GET THIS IN BEFORE some of you do..

this was done by one man and one man alone...not a conspiracy or a bunch of cultists chanting shit to bill orielly or shit like you see from the left about obama.......

AND IF anything EVER happens to ANYONE who has ever been talked bad about from some of you I am sure you will have a COMPLETLEY opposite take on it like you are having on everyother point of obama's destruction of the AMerican capitalist system.

"Religion is behind this, as usual." #38 | Posted by nutcase

Speaking of "nutcase", this guy also has a history of mental problems. He should have been locked up long ago. He calls the AP from his jail cell and they run with whatever he tells them.

"If what you posit is true and it may well be in the same vein that Nixon declared that if the President did it, it's not illegal, Bush lawyers declaring that ignoring the Geneva Conventions and Reagan et al selling weapons to off-limits groups were all legal....Hitler's crimes would have instantly arisen once they crossed the border boundary of any other nation. And for the record I believe that Bush, Nixon and Reagan all commited crimes with the respective conduct.
Effectively shooting your argument right between the eyes."

Actually, you prove my argument that "legal" is not moral in all cases. Thanks. I should have added those other examples to mine.

p.s. If you say they were not legal, then show me the convictions for them (the ones you name). If law is all that matters then these people broke no laws.
I of course mean the above in fun and agree with your point in part, but the whole abortion stuff boils down to that if all we hear is "It can't be murder because it is legal." It's like that idiot who shot Tiller claiming he has done right. Equivocations.

"More deli clerks were killed performing their profession in the last week, than have abortion doctors in the past 35 years."

And he thinks that is a valid point. Pathetic.

He knows other events are planned? Sounds like he just confessed to conspiracy.

#2 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2009-06-07 03:06 PM | REPLY | FLAG

He's already going down for murder - thinks he's a champion. Maybe this confession will take down some of his co-conspirators.

Of course there will be more violence directed at doctors.

As long as the right wing lunatics feel that their voices are not being heard by politicos in respect to abortion they will continue to predicate this terrorism.

#8 | Posted by 726

It's a real big problen!!!! The number of abortion doctors killed in the US is up to 4. The sky is falling!!!!!!! Run for cover if you ever have performed an abortion. SHIT.

Not for nothing, but if this yoyo was associated with anyone else as nuts as he is, I'd appreciate the authorities doing an objetive investigation and rounding them up. We simply can not survive as a civil society if assasination is accepted.

if this yoyo was associated with anyone else as nuts as he is, I'd appreciate the authorities doing an objetive investigation and rounding them up.

My point exactly!

And I am VERY prolife, should anyone think the above post is from an abortion apologist.

In my town a coterie of fruit-of-thy-loom bead counters has gathered outside The Clinic for twenty years to chant and wave nine-foot doctored bloody fetus photos.

That's their right, as long as they stay on the sidewalk, don't trespass or assault women wishing to terminate problem pregnancies. As a "lib," I wouldn't dream of trying to stop them. Indeed, I live for the dialog; when it comes to ideas, these people are sooooo challenged.

BUT. I suggest, in all my usual humility, that these people are a fingernail's width from lunatics who pick up revolvers and assassinate physicians ushering at church. herm

I've prayed outside clinics before, Herm, and no such thought crossed my mind. Nor did we accost women going in, but sometimes they would come to us. As we have exchanged this conversation before, let me repeat: too many women are emotionally coerced into abortion and that needs to be addressed by law, I think. Any dude so cowardly as to not take responsibility for his pecker should have to think twice before starting to berate and abuse a woman into a rash decision.

"Nor did we accost women going in, but sometimes they would come to us."

I doubt this, ol' debbil, but I lack the details to call you a liar. Maybe your group differs radically (???) from those who try physically to block women's access to clinic doors.

"Any dude so cowardly as to not take responsibility for his pecker ..."

Funny, but in my experience at LEAST as many women want to terminate the pregnancy but are physically dissuaded by males who think that this would somehow diminish their peckerdom. herm

It was just reported that Tiller's clinic WON'T reopen.

I love the hypocrisy with the abortion violence crowd: You shouldn't kill, so we'll kill you.

WOE unto ... ah, perhaps you've heard it before.

Now I have to take a shower or two. I haven't posted in this cesspool in, like, forever.

terminate problem pregnancies - HARM

What a fucking misnomer - the only problem preganacy I know of was your mothers - with you. Not much difference between you and Roeder HERM. Rationalize it all you like. Roeder only killed one human being. How many did you lead to their deaths? Your lucky in one respect - God is all forgiving. Hope the babies you helped murder are just as forgiving.

I doubt this - HARM -

of course you do HERM - it eliminates all the arguments and hate against the pro-lifers.

"Roeder only killed one human being."

That would be one more than Tiller.

My god, these abortion doctors are dropping like flies! This is what, the 2nd one in decades...

Posted by Stillborne

Here you go you stupid Twat. As usual your head is up your ass, you must be one a dem supporters of Domestic Terror...

The Associated Press

A look at recent cases of abortion-related violence:

_ May 31, 2009: Prominent late-term abortion provider George Tiller is shot and killed in a Wichita church where he was serving as an usher. The gunman fled but a city official said a suspect is in custody.

_ April 2007: Authorities say Paul Ross Evans placed a homemade bomb in the parking lot of the Austin Women's Health Center in Texas. A bomb squad disposes of the device, which contained two pounds of nails. There are no injuries.

_ Oct. 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian is fatally shot in his home in a suburb of Buffalo, N.Y. Militant abortion opponent James Kopp is convicted of the murder in 2003 and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.

_ Jan. 29, 1998: A bomb explodes just outside a Birmingham, Ala., abortion clinic, killing a police officer and wounding several others. Eric Rudolph later pleads guilty to that incident and the deadly bombing at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta. He justifies the Alabama bombing in an essay from prison, writing that Jesus would condone "militant action in defense of the innocent."

_ Jan. 16, 1997: Two bomb blasts an hour apart rock an Atlanta building containing an abortion clinic. Seven people are injured. Rudolph is charged by federal authorities in October 1998.

_ Dec. 30, 1994: John Salvi opens fire with a rifle inside two Boston-area abortion clinics, killing two receptionists and wounding five others. Sentenced to life without parole, he kills himself in prison in 1996.

_ Nov. 8, 1994: Dr. Garson Romalis, who performs abortions in Vancouver, Canada, is shot in the leg while eating breakfast at home.

_ July 29, 1994: Dr. John Bayard Britton and his volunteer escort, James H. Barrett, are slain outside a Pensacola, Fla., abortion clinic. Barrett's wife, June, is wounded in the attack. Paul J. Hill, 40, a former minister and anti-abortion activist, is later convicted of murder and sentenced to death.

_ Aug. 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller is shot in the arms as he drives out of parking lot at his Wichita, Kan., clinic. Rachelle "Shelley" Shannon is later convicted and sentenced to 11 years in prison.

Roeder had frequently blogged on the Operation Rescue website, a group that had stalked Tiller for years wherever he went. they had a "Tiller Watch" on their site that was hastily removed in light of public scrutiny. They drove around so called Truth Truth trucks with large pictures of Tiller on the sides.

Operation Rescue released the following statement, attributable to Troy Newman, President:

"Scott Roeder has never been a member, contributor, or volunteer with Operation Rescue. Mr. Roeder may have posted to our open blog web site, as have thousands of members of the public, including those with pro-abortion views, but he is not affiliated with this organization."

except -

Roeder had Cheryl Sullenger's phone number in the truck with him at the time he assassinated Tiller. It was captured by Kansas City News Channel 9

He will soon see more violence in the form of prison rape

SO, HE'S ADMITTING TO SLEEPER CELLS WITHIN OUR BORDERS!!

HE HAS KNOWLEDGE OF FUTURE ATTACKS!!

Using the logic of the right, we are now obligated to torture this terrorist until he tells us anything we want to hear,

Torture supporters, you would have no issue if we tortured this terrorist to find out where the other attacks are going to take place, right?

George W Bush and Co had all sorts of left-leaning groups put on terrorist watch lists (including Fresno Peace) and yet they ignore actual terrorists who bomb people.

No surprise that the Twats have no comments when facts are put on the line.

Silence is golden.

That would be one more than Tiller.

#65 | Posted by Danforth
Danforth, you are dangerously close to becoming HERM 2.0 with comments like that. So a 23 week old unborn child is not human? Tool. Good luck with that "living without a soul" condition. Hope someone comes over to your house some day and rips you out the front door and shoves a vacum cleaner in your head to suck out your brains (if you have any). Then come back and talk about Till not killing anyone.

#66 | Posted by Repugnant

Wow. 9 since 1993. Really 9! Holy crap. That comes real close to the over 40 million abortions since 73. Good comparison.

There's like 9 murders a day in Detroit and New Orleans.

No surprise that the Twats have no comments when facts are put on the line.
Posted by Repugnant

Wow. 9 since 1993.
Posted by ELCIDCE90

The boss keeps asking why there is coffee sprayed all over my office walls.

No surprise that the Twats have no comments when facts are put on the line.

Silence is golden.

#71 | Posted by Repugnant at 2009-06-09 05:31 PM | Reply |

Dumbfuck,
Your list contained 3 dead doctors. Seriously, 3. Does that seem like proof that they're dropping like flies to you? No? Me either.

Next time you should consider simply shutting the fuck up. Bitch.

" So a 23 week old unborn child is not human? Tool. "

We already have a definition for human being. You don't get to make up a new one just for the debate.

" Hope someone comes over to your house some day and rips you out the front door and shoves a vacum cleaner in your head to suck out your brains (if you have any)."

Another Christian heard from.

Another Christian heard from.

#78 | Posted by Danforth
Yes. bears repeating. Come back after the procedure has been completed on you and please describe how it is "human" in its application HERM 2.0. Mearly wanted you to have the same experience as a 23 week old unborn human being.

Noun 1. HUMAN BEING - any LIVING or extinct member of the family Hominidae characterized by superior intelligence, articulate speech, and erect carriage.

LIVING - The state of one who, or that which, lives; lives; LIFE; existence.

LIFE - Life is a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have self-sustaining biological processes ("alive," "living"), from those which do not [1][2] either because such functions have ceased (death), or else because they lack such functions and are classified as "inanimate."

So - who is revising the definition again?

Thanks for trying, Danforth. I think it's hopeless. You won't get through. herm

There are roughly 89,000 doctors on the USA (from Proctologist to Brain Surgeons) and there are more than 300 millions american is the USA. The ratio of a terrorist killing a doctor is a higher ratio than american killed in 911.

Thanks for trying, Danforth. I think it's hopeless. You won't get through. herm

#80 | Posted by herm
My sentiments exactly. Please explain again how performing an abortion on a 23 week old unborn child is not murder?

For reference:

"Please explain again how ... an abortion on a 23 week old unborn child is not murder?"

Please explain again, Cidney - speaking of fucking scumbags - how it IS murder.

There's no such thing as an unborn child, Cidney; I've tried to explain that to you, but didn't get through. I doubt if much DOES get through. But don't try to hide your sick anti-woman psychoses under a mask of concern for fetal rights. herm

anti-woman psychoses -HARM

Yeah, because killing a 23 week old unborn child is anti-woman? if anything you are anti-woman by encouraging such a self destructive act upon them- your such a sick fuck there is no hope for you.

I just cannot imagine what event in your life made you so fucked in the brain. Especially considering the generation you come from. I know of no other 80 year olds that place such low value on life.

Again, look at the link. See the pictures read the description - MURDER HERM and you were an accomplice if you led late term abortion woman to the slaughterhouse - that blood is forever on you no matter what you try to type back to me - beg for mercy HERM, that is my advice to you.

Now, please retort with some withered tired argument about "womans reproductive rights" or "fetus fetus fetus" play on words. Old and tired is what you are HERM. Glad I don't have to look at your face in the mirror when I get up in the morning.

Okay, Cidney. You're right. You WILL forgive me? herm

Okay, Cidney. You're right. You WILL forgive me? herm

HERM, even though I think you ask in a patrionizing manner, of course I forgive you. I hold out the greatest hope for you and pray harder for you than anyone on the DR. The DR is a silly place which brings out the adversary in all of us - it is kind of like politicians during a campaign. Mean and vicious things are said by those who probably would not hurt a fly.

Now back to the show...

assuming abortion is flat out murder for a half a second ~ where in the bible does it say two wrongs make a right? (or is it left?:>)

Oh frabjous day, calloo callay. Cidney forgives me. To whom would you like me to pray? Fess up, Cidney: Have you really spewed your bile all this time to bring folk nearer to gawd? herm

Oh frabjous day, calloo callay. Cidney forgives me. To whom would you like me to pray? Fess up, Cidney: Have you really spewed your bile all this time to bring folk nearer to gawd? herm

The Parkinson's is gonna get you, pops.

Your list contained 3 dead doctors.
- 101Stillborne

Yes it did, you want to play a numbers game and avoid the reality that the pro-life movement is continuing to breed Domestic Terrorists Stillborne??
Fine, the pro-life movement just Assassinated 1/3 of the Late Term Abortion doctors in the nation. Does that make you feel all warm and fuzzy now?

So let it be known that Stillborne is fine with Domestic Terrorism, lest he can choke on the dick of facts after he asks for, and is provided with, facts, no less than 9 specific incidents of Pro-Life Terrorism.

Stillborne dismisses them. So Stillborne, if Foreign Terrorists attack the US only once in Obama's term, or even 3 times it will not be of significance? Seriously?? Of course it will, you stupid Twat.

Here are some more specifics on the Domestic Terroristist Scott Roeder and his whacked out affiliates Operation Rescue who are largely responsible for Tillers Assassination.

Operation Rescue harassed Tiller whereever he went along with women who needed medical attention from him. He was forced to wear a bullet proof vest, and traveled in a bullet proof car. Operation rescue drove billboard trucks around cities with Tillers picture plastered on the side.

Operation Rescue was responsible for misguided evidence provided to the failed prosecution in the trial where Tiller was acquitted just before his murder. This acquittal angered Roeder.

Operation Rescues President spoke out before the trial, as if Tiller had already been convicted of Op Rescues alleged criminal discoveries, saying he was destined for jail. No due process, just assumption and blame posted in daily press releases on their site.

Operation Rescue did not want to admit that Roeder was upset at the result of a trial they instigated which proved nothing, a trial Roeder followed on their website as they posted the "Tiller Watch" stalking his every move.

Operation Rescue did not want to admit that he was in frequent contact with their senior staff member Sullenger who told Roeder when and where Tiller would be on trial.

Operation Rescue did not want to admit that Roeder had Operation Rescues phone number in his truck in plain sight at the time of the Assassination.

There were many posts by Roeder on Operation Rescues website, but they pulled the content from their web site after the Assassination because they did not want to face the reality and scrutiny that Roeder was connected with Op Rescue. Good thing their site was accessed and recorded by others before they did removed his posts out their own guilt, else the truth would be buried by them. But that's only a minor piece of the association between Tiller - Op Rescue - and Roeder.

How do I know this? I went to their website which has a press release stating Op Rescue has no connection or bears no responsibility for the action of Roeder (even though their baseless accusations lit the fuse to Roeder's ticking timebomb mind).

I expect pro-lifers to protest the funeral they are responsible and dance on his grave afterward, the rest of the country will look at pro-lifers as whacko freaks who cannot respect life, and won't that be ironic. Their fringe elements are out of control and their leaders are all just looking up and whistling, doo dee doo, we have no responsibility towards this...

Oh frabjous day, calloo callay. Cidney forgives me. To whom would you like me to pray? Fess up, Cidney: Have you really spewed your bile all this time to bring folk nearer to gawd? herm

#89 | Posted by herm
And, the moment passed. Pray to your god beazlebub HERM. Pray to Tiller for all I care. Pray to a tree. The only bile I spew was obviously the attempt at reconciliation with you - what a waste of time and bandwidth - kind of like you HERM. No intrinsic value to human kind at all - that would be you.

In which Cidney's attempt at "reconciliation" produces a dying gasp. herm

3 dead doctors. That's it. Only 3. Does that sound like they're dropping like flies, dumbfuck?

Yeah, I didn't think so either. Run along, you've been defeated.

In which Cidney's attempt at "reconciliation" produces a dying gasp. herm

#94 | Posted by herm
Yours?