This Clown is being treated like a HERO, on the Far right RADIO an the BOLGS, this is how Conservatives think, If they like the Law than they follow it if they don't they blame the LIBERAL Congress an the Actavist Judges...THESE FUCKS ARE ASSHOLES

Now he wants to "cry" about how HE'S treated?
What a doofus-he just committed murder-in a crowded Church-in front of women and children-and thinks he should be treated like a hero? Fuck him. With an untreated Telephone pole....

Commit a "big-boy" crime-you'd best be prepared to do "big-boy" time.
It won't be pleasant-it wasn't meant to be.
I hope he rots in prison with a HUGE Herpes infected cock up his ass-for the rest of his life.
He deserves no less.

.....so, I guess if he gets a jury of radical conservatives, he gets off, scott free.......

if it smells like a criminal, if it acts like a criminal you treat it like a criminal.

".....so, I guess if he gets a jury of radical conservatives, he gets off, scott free......."

or....he is then charged with violating Dr. Tiller's constitutional rights which is a federal charge used for white guys who murdered civil rights workers. He isn't going free and I do hope he enjoys his new friends and home.

I would hope that there are people with human emotions on the jury and there is acquittal accomplished by jury nullification of charges against him.

Where is the line to be drawn that justifies action by a man to avert great harm to innocents? Would the early assassination of Hitler have been justified to prevent the Holocaust he engineered? Or should legalistic constraints have inhibited moral justice being done? As a country that has subordinated itself to bourgeois legalisms disguised as "the rule of law" and permitted great harm to be done by those evading moral precepts, we should acknowledge our shameful conduct.

The state should have executed Killer Tiller, or at least removed him from a situation in which he could terminate innocent life. It is the failure of the state to act properly and its degeneracy that necessitated a motivated moral man to end this continuing orgy of condoned murder by interdicting the despicable actions of Tiller the Baby Killer. That someone this evil was enabled to perform his brutal butchery for so long, is a condemnation of our society and each of us who stood by and did not act. Scott Roeder has helped rehabilitate us and relieve us of our sins by acting where we should have acted.

Of all the vile and loathsome things that creep and crawl upon their bellies upon this Earth, of all the slime, this loathsome creature, Tiller the Baby Killer, was the most reprehensible of all. I know that most of you are secularists, but if "the roll is called up yonder," I'd much rather answer and report for judgment as Scott Roeder than Killer Tiller.

Scott Roeder, Redeemer.

criminal and piece of shit. when did you start ignoring the law? you a terrorist also?

Tiller's acts were considered LEGAL, Roeder's were ILLEGAL.
Regardless of what one believes, the law is the law.

these terrorists do not believe in the law

"Tiller Suspect: Don't Treat Me Like a Criminal"

But ya are in that wheelchair, Blanche. Ya are! Ya are!

Off on a wild tangent here. It's about our frequent comments suggesting that we, as a nation condone and cheer for, and laugh about rape in our American prison system.

Given that we have the most citizens, per capita, in the world, in prison population, it seems odd that a man or woman cannot be punished, as the law requires, without the defacto sentance of rape and beatings being tossed in,and laughed about within the general population.

Are you telling me that being sent into that hell aint torture?

Sorta like "and, in addition to 3 years in the federal penitentury, you are setenced to regular beatings and frequent rape by a prison population which is bigger, physically stronger and a damn site meaner than you, and statistically likely to be HIV Positive"

Exactly what part of "no cruel or unusual punishment" do we not understand?

Johnson hopes for jury nullification. For the uninitiated, that means he (?) hopes for jurors who ignore the law and vote their prejudices. But it is entirely likely that a hung jury could result if the prosecution does not screen out all doctrinaire persons of Johnson's preposterous beliefs.

The balance of this writer's (J.) diatribe, its decent spelling and acceptable syntax, masks a putrifying hatred of women, the right to opt out of motherhood, judicial procedure ... and a basic underlying lack of human decency. Some day I will pity the Johnsons of the world, but today I feel only scorn and disgust. herm

It's just a shame they don't pith and castrate sick fuck like Johnson anymore.

Johnson cheered OJ's jury nullification.

Angrydad,

Somehow I doubt that. However I wonder how many here did? There were certainly quite a few who did. I suppose it would be too much to ask for a role call of who supported OJ but who wants Tiller hung by a yardarm. I suppose that might be too much like exposing the glass houses.

Well whatever Roeder needs to have life in prision. The bottom line is he commited murder so did Tiller but 2 wrongs do not make a right.

tao, dont you let those little facts of life get in the way of your biased position. must bother you not to believe in the legal system here.

Was there a grassy knoll near that church?

"The bottom line is he commited murder so did Tiller "

Sorry, we already have a definition for "murder". You don't get to make up a new one.

Yep taking of life is murder. Late term abortions are taking life.

George what facts? Where did you think I did not belive in the legal system here?

"Yep taking of life is murder. Late term abortions are taking life."

Except they don't call it "murder", legally. See the difference?

"Where did you think I did not belive in the legal system here?"

Maybe the part where you get to call murder what the law calls legal.

Danforth,

True I disagree with late term abortions. I belive that at that point the baby can survive without the mother. However I do have faith in our system. I belive one of the guiding principals of this country is the right to disagree with the government. Just because someone disagrees with the law does not mean they do not have faith in the system.

i would prefer that this person suffer obscurity. Let's not discuss him. Just let local officials give him his trial, presumably convict him, and lock him up for the rest of his natural life. Forgotten

"However I do have faith in our system."

Not if you're making up your own definitions, outside the system.

"Sorry, we already have a definition for "murder". You don't get to make up a new one." #19 | Posted by Danforth

Well why not, the left did.

Is not so much what Roeder did , but what he has stopped. This Thing will kill no more innocents.

The problem with wingnut logic on this topic is that if history teaches us nothing else, it does teach that any time a leader is martyred, a hundred more rise to take his place. i predict that this man's murder will indirectly lead to an increased number of abortionprovider doctors in coming years.

"Well why not, the left did."

Why lie?

"Is not so much what Roeder did , but what he has stopped."

So what other murders do you think would be justified, and who gets to make that decision? Should the designer of the Hummer be targeted? How about the dude who suggested we substitute corn syrup for sugar? Ultimately, where does it end, and who has and doesn't have the right to make that fatal decision?

So back in the 70's you saying abortion was ok meant that you had no faith in the system?

How about marijuana laws have you ever toked? If so does that mean you don't have faith in the system? Just because you disagree with a system does not mean that you do not have faith in it. Simply that you disagree with it.

"So back in the 70's you saying abortion was ok meant that you had no faith in the system? How about marijuana laws have you ever toked?"

Disagreement is one thing; making up definitions to suit your position is another. I don't like late-term abortions either, in fact, I don't like any abortions. But that doesn't mean I get to ratchet up the hyperbole by declaring it murder.

Danforth,

Murder is taking a human life, in late term abortions the child could survive outside the womb. At that point what else can you call it but murder. I'm sorry I don't use PC language to hide ugliness and make it sound harmless.

who has and doesn't have the right to make that fatal decision?

In good faith we've relegated that to the government - just as when there was no choice among the populace the tyrant and his assigns controlled the gallows. I'm appalled at what passes for "justice" in our courts. How is it a man who takes a just stroke and lands in prison because one person was harmed, and Carl Icahn makes decisions that send 10,000 into destitution and the government rewards him with a break on capital gains taxes?

Excessive greed causes much misery and children are harmed in so many ways I'd think it would make anyone angry to see how they struggle so a select few can drink champagne.

Yet one must have perfect knowledge to execute another person and be righteous in acting. It's the stuff of movies. Training Day. You can leave a man to his desserts if in the end it preserves life. The same rule applies to abortion. Our teaching hospitals should provide the service if indeed the child has died in the womb, or if the mother's life is threatened. Leaving it to a sole practitioner is wrong. 60,000 abortions?

Of course the Mavens have trotted out some horrific cases including one where the woman terminated so she could undergo chemo. If it was late term then why not induce labor and have the child. At least give the kid a chance. That's why Roe should have been decided on medical necessity and not on privacy. Maybe if we could review these files we would know the circumstances prevailing at the time of decision.

Ignorance is dangerous. People can and will think the worst, especially the worst among us. I say open the doctor's files and review the cases. Either they will show a compassionate service or a practice of terming pregnancies on demand. Put an end to the hypothetical rants based on little or no facts. Or suffer the conflict.

Let me know when that analysis is ready.

""Is not so much what Roeder did, but what he has stopped."

"So what other murders do you think would be justified, and who gets to (decide) ? "

More importantly, it WON'T be stopped. Someone else will be along to save women's lives when a late-term pregnancy needs to be aborted. Neither Roeder or Taowarrior will stop it. herm

" I'm sorry I don't use PC language to hide ugliness and make it sound harmless."

No, you make up your own language to amplify ugliness. Abortion not murder under current laws?!? Doesn't matter to Tao!

Herm who said I wanted to stop late term medicaly neccesary abortions?

However if the fetus is still alive no matter the risk to the mother it is murder. Yes it may be the lesser evil to abort on occasion and I accept that but it is murder. Just like Johnson's example killing Hitler early and often would have been the lesser evil but it still would have been murder.

Oh wait thats right you just decided to assign a position to me, I love when people do that.

"How is it a man who takes a just stroke and lands in prison because one person was harmed, and Carl Icahn makes decisions that send 10,000 into destitution and the government rewards him with a break on capital gains taxes?"

The golden rule. (Not to be confused with The Golden Rule.)

"However if the fetus is still alive no matter the risk to the mother it is murder."

Humpty Dumpty strikes again.

Danforth,

The Death Penalty is legal so are you arguing that it is not state sactioned murder?

Does the legality of taking a human life negate the fact that it is murder?

Actualy acording to websters it does. So I will revise my statement.

Tiller took human lives, Roeder took a human life two wrongs do not make a right.

Happy now Danforth?

"Does the legality of taking a human life negate the fact that it is murder"

No, the legal definition of a human life, and the legal definition of murder by themselves negate the "fact" that it is a murder.

"Actualy acording to websters it does"

Thanks for admitting I was right all along.

"Tiller took human lives, Roeder took a human life two wrongs do not make a right. Happy now Danforth?"

As long as you're happy. But while we're there, at least admit what Tiller did was legal, and what Roeder did was illegal. And that, in fact, Roeder was the only one of the two who committed murder.

#9 | Posted by Sluggo at 2009-06-06 04:39 PM

Tiller's acts were considered LEGAL, Roeder's were ILLEGAL.
Regardless of what one believes, the law is the law.

What is incongruous is that the leftists, whose creed denounces "bourgeois legalisms" as mere contrivances to attain a particular end, are invoking "the law" as justification for enabling a "serial terminator" of life to continue his destruction of life unabated, and condemning a man of such great compassion that he placed himself and his future in jeopardy to save innocent lives in esse. The man's acts in behalf of humankind in eliminating the Beast of Kansas.

herm, you are evil incarnate, and yet view yourself as some person who is "moral." Too bad that you don't possess the ability to see yourself as the hateful callous person you are, who is not moved by the slaughter of innocents.

I recognize that you are a secularist and elevate the laws of imperfect men above the values of the Creator,...

Those values of the Creator you speak off came not from a non-existant God but from other impefect men who lived thousands of years ago before the age of reason really began.

It's the voices of contemporary men and women with an understanding of the increased complexitities of this world who should primarily inform todays debate because, as imperfect as we are, we are still better people than our distant ancestors with a greater grasp of the greater morality and of the interlocking aspects of out reality.

You wanna go on pretending that yer good book was actually written by a divine being go ahead but don't expect to be taken too seriously when you do.

Be Well.

Danforth

Yes Tiller's actions were legal Roeder's were not. I don't think I ever denied that.

If I had the power to change laws overnight neithers actions would have been legal. I'm workng at it but since neither party actualy cares about abortion other than as a wedge issue I don't see me making much progress in my life.

As far as definition of human life I did some digging since websters of course does not define human life however it defines human as a biped primate mamal which I guess would mean your not human till around 1 year old, shall we extend abortion till todlerhood? No obviously not so lets move on, the next thing I could find was brain function since once someone is brain dead you can cut off life support without being considered a murder. So brain functon, It would seem a fetus can develop brain function early in the second trimester. So why do you resist calling a fetus human life?

Tiller was no better than a mob hitman, killing for money. He enriched himself by destroying lives. And hitmen are not usually dispatched to kill innocents.

This lowlife killed many more people than an army of mob hitmen, and was much better compensated.

See this:

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The Tiller Residence
The Tillers own a five bedroom house valued at over $980000 in an exclusive gated community known as "The Foliage". This gated community sits northwest of ...
www.dr-tiller.com/
residence.htm - Cached - Similar pages

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The Tiller Residence
George and Jeanne Tiller own a vacation home in the prestigious Corinthian Hill ... Click here to read about the Tillers' farmland in Haskell County, Kansas.

Hmm.

Killing babies for fun and profit. I wonder if he pulled the wings off of butterflies as a youngster. When do these sadistic and destructive proclivities emerge?

All of you sanctimonious folk seem oblivious to the horror of the activities of Killer Tiller. This country can descend into the maelstrom and intrude upon and kill people so long as it's "the law," and you people will be not only complaisant but supporting because it's "the law." You seem to be bound by ritual and to subordinate yourselves to the most evil acts so long as your ritualistic compliance gets you some "atta boys" for having no moral compunctions, but being "law-abiding" however bad "the law" is.

Come on. Pretend to be those who supported the Brits during the revolution. Let's have three "God save King George," followed by you moral lepers incantation of "God Save George Tiller the Killer," also three times. What a group of lemmings. After all, they were both doing things legally. those fellows who dumped the tea should be punished as they violated "the law." What a bunch of spineless creeps you are.

Roeder was no better than a 9/11 terrorist, killing for an ill percieved God. He gained notoriety himself by destroying life.

Tiller saved womens lives

~Johnson

There. FTFY.

Be Well.

"He gained notoriety himself" = "He gained notoriety for himself..."

There. FTFS.

Be Well.

"shall we extend abortion till todlerhood?"

Take it up with Webster.

"So brain functon, It would seem a fetus can develop brain function early in the second trimester. So why do you resist calling a fetus human life?"

I don't. I resist calling something murder just because I want to inflame the debate. But here's the real truth: if I agreed to "brain function", you wouldn't suddenly be okay with first trimester abortions. But ultimately, it's not about definitions, it's about control.

Is that "a quote" from my post, deth, or just a general observation?

Is that "a quote" from my post, deth, or just a general observation?

You don't even read yer own posts?

Well, Spud can't blame you there but yes, it was based on this THIS absurd quote of yers...

Tiller was no better than a mob hitman, killing for money. He enriched himself by destroying lives.

Run through Spud's patented truth-o-injecter machine which, of course, summarily transmogrified it into sommat more reality based.

Roeder was no better than a 9/11 terrorist, killing for an ill percieved God. He gained notoriety for himself by destroying life.

Tiller saved womens lives.

~Tiny Johnson

Hence the "Fixed That For You!"

No charge.

Only too happy to help.

"It never hurts to help"

~Eek the Cat

An "observation"?

Only in the sense that reality is an observable event.

Be Well.

#50 | Posted by dethspud at 2009-06-07 12:48 AM

Well deth, I thought that you were the author of what you had attributed to me as a quote, and indeed you were.

Now, I can't chastise you since I don't know which of your personae to address as you haven't identified which of you takes the liberty of "transmogrifying" statements to create a strawman.

deth, I recognize that many of your multiple personalities do not have the need to resort to such transparent distortions. These more able deths don't need to pose as his own interlocutor and then respond to himself. Possibly it's the late hour, deth. So, it is with eager anticipation that I await your fresher and more reasoned comment on another day at an earlier time.

Get some rest, deth.

many of your multiple personalities

Yer just jealous cos Spud gots personality.

So much so, apparently, that Spud's personality actually requires pluralisation.

Wow!

Truly Spud is blessed!

Spud's personality cup is overfloweth according to the Sage Johnson.

Stop with all the insincere compliments now you sweet talking devil afore Spud is start blushing!

Be Well.

"Once the dam has burst and destruction of human life is permitted, the arguments to enlarge the ambit of permissible killing become acceptable as there is no stigma attached to termination of life."

Two questions: when does it become "life", and what should the penalty be for a woman who receives an abortion?

if "it" is attached to my body, "it" is mine to do with as i please.

immoral or not.

".....so, I guess if he gets a jury of radical conservatives, he gets off, scott free......."

yep. but then what? and who will convict "them?"

the PRICE of freedom.

no deposit, no return.

good luck.

So women are all getting pregnant by osmosis?

Every pregnanacy is a virgin birth?

God must be doing a lot of fucking....

So, no more child support, no more male responsiblity.....

Right?

i acknowledge only your shameful conduct, Johnson, you stupid anti-american fascist asshat.

there is no U.S. Dept. of PRECRIME AUTO-SENTENCE AUTO-PRISON, asshat.

if there were you'd be dead.

good, you impregnate someone then force HER to deliver, i see.

the U.S. of Johnson doesn't allow asshats to become pregnant or to impregnate, asshat.

complicated freedom is, ain't it?

...and what do YOU know of God? piss off.

you ... elevate the laws of imperfect men above the values of the Creator, so you are one servile subservient fellow

WOW.

what "subservient" fascist dumbass.

What do I know of God?

ahahahahaha, I know enough to know you shouldn't use God as an excuse for butchery....

the values of the Creator

who's that Limpfurter, Hannity, or the FSM!

So, no more child support, no more male responsiblity.....

Right?

#56 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-06-07 02:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

You got some pesky child support payments you're upset about, REX?

Roeder (and you) use God as an excuse for butchery.

blinded by the light are you? guess you didn't see the "sword" that lobotomized you neither, asshat.

like that one? piss off.

...and what do YOU know of God? piss off

And what do you know of god?Speak to you lately? Oh prophet prey tell,what did he tell you?

Everybody seems to be so goddamn sure.
Isn't there any scripture about being humble?

'Ichiro' (funny, a guy by that same name plays left field for my team) are you comparing me to a murderer?

That wouldn't be very nice considering I have never killed anyone......

And that includes performing a on demand, late term abortion.

Maybe you should think a little before you post, 'Ichiro', you seem a little hot headed.

right field*

...and what do YOU know of God? piss off

Sorry Ichiro,I kinda got carried away,I was thinking of other posters when I stole your quote

Ok, I'm going to explain this again for those who deny their very own Christian bible.

By the definition in both testaments of your Christian bible life begins at the inspiration of the first breath at time of birth. Not before.

So if this bible thumping nonsense is your message or agenda then you are on a double standard.

Regan

Where did the bible ever come up? Johnson brought up the creator fairly early in the debate but other than that this has been a fairly bible free thread.

I find it funny that being anti-abortion makes you a bible thumper. Try a person who holds life dear? That might be a better description of me.

Danforth,

Actualy first trimester abortions are not really something I have a huge issue with. No I can't say I support them but is it an issue that I'm interested in fighting over no not really.

I find it funny that being anti-abortion makes you a bible thumper. Try a person who holds life dear? That might be a better description of me.

The murderer was a heavy duty Christian. The organizations he associated with claim Christianity. Operation Rescue is a heavy Christian org.

Christians cried out for Islam to cut out the cancer of radicalism, or they were as guilty as the radicals.

Time to show some consistency, or is "You're either with us or against us" passe?

The book "Operation Rescue"
'Rescue those who are unjustly sentenced to death: don't stand back and let them die'
by Randall A. Terry
Forward by:
Jerry Falwel
lPat Robertson and
Dr. D. James Kennedy

You wrought it, you bought it. (apologies to C. Powell)

Yav,

I'm sorry I'm not the murderer, I'm not associated with any of the organizations he was associated with, I am not associated with operation rescue and I have never read the book.

So umm thanks for informing me but no I did not wrought it and given my finacial situation I certainly didn't buy it.

I must scroll back to post #42 to find the definitive clue to what makes "Johnson" tick: "I recognize that you are a secularist and elevate the laws of imperfect men above the values of the Creator."

"Johnson" not only postulates the existence of a "creator," but then turns around and purports to tell us exactly hat that creator had in mind for us.

Back to basics: When we cannot answer certain questions, we invent creators, raising a whole new batch of questions; so we invent satans, heavens and hells, angels and notions like fetuses being people. herm

"Johnson" not only postulates the existence of a "creator," but then turns around and purports to tell us exactly hat that creator had in mind for us.

Oh, Herm, Herm, Herm, Herm, Herm - (pause for breath) - Herm, Herm, Herm. May I call you "Herm"? Yes, indeed, I postulate the existence of a "creator," as you call the entity. Personally, speaking for me, myself, and I, we call her "Priscilla." It's really quite complicated, but I shall endeavor to enlighten you on this topic in Priscilla's words, as channeled through her most obedient of vessels, me.

You see, Herm (may I call you "Herm"?), it's like this: I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly. I'm crying. Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come. Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday. Man, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long. I am the Eggman, they are the Eggmen. I am the Walrus, goo goo g'joob. Mister city policeman sitting. Pretty little policemen in a row. See how they fly like Lucy in the sky, see how they run. I'm crying, I'm crying. I'm crying, I'm crying. Yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog's eye. Crabalocker fishwife, pornographic priestess, Boy, you been a naughty girl you let your knickers down. I am the Eggman, they are the Eggmen. I am the Walrus, goo goo g'joob.

Sitting in an English garden waiting for the sun. If the sun don't come, you get a tan from standing in the English rain. I am the Eggman, they are the Eggmen. I am the Walrus, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob. Expert textpert choking smokers, don't you think the Joker laughs at you? See how they smile like pigs in a sty, see how they snied. I'm crying.

Semolina Pilchard, climbing up the Eiffel Tower. Elementary Penguin singing Hari Krishna. Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allan Poe. I am the eggman, they are the eggmen. I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob. Goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob g'goo.

Well, Herm (may I call you "Herm"?), that's pretty much it. But I'll tell you this: I still tingle when I see lightning strike across the sky, because, contrary to what my dear old Aunt Jemima used to say, even the sturdiest double-wide will not provide secure shelter in the storm.
~Raymond J. "Ya Doesn't Hafta Call Me 'Johnson'" Johnson

Let's treat him like a terrorist....

Rather, let's treat him how terrorists treat their prisoners...

Try Scott Roeder by a jury of his peers.

If the ethnicity, sex, or rich experience of the jury members influences the outcome of their decisions, so be it.

Many of the most highly qualified judges in American reach decisions this way, so why not us lowly jurors then?

"Try Scott Roeder by a jury of his peers." You won't find any.

"If the ethnicity, sex, or rich experience of the jury members influences the outcome of their decisions, so be it." Running counter to every known fundamental of jury selection.

"Many of the most highly qualified judges ... reach decisions this way, so why not ... jurors?" Judges, at least in theory, put law over prejudices. Maybe not, come to think of it, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and their ilk. herm

I guess if one thinks legal means moral, than Dred Scott settled the slavery question once and for all and Lincoln really was a tyrant as Booth said.

"Many of the most highly qualified judges ... reach decisions this way, so why not ... jurors?" Judges, at least in theory, put law over prejudices. Maybe not, come to think of it, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and their ilk. herm

#77 | Posted by herm

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life..." said Judge Sotomayor.

"...our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging." she continued.

Kill him with fire.

1% of the population are nuts. Of that 1% many are in prison already although some are not ...men like him are out there on the far right and the far left. If you believe an unborn child is a human life you can understand how people see it as wrong, to some its like the WW2 Holocaust. Of the 1% of people that are nuts some are liberal (unibomber etc) you get a similar viewpoint when they attack military recruiters because they feel soldiers kill people one way or another. Liberals can understand the military recruiter being killed but don't ever advocate it and the reverse is true of real conservatives. We cant sacrifice free speech cus some are willing to kill in the name of their beliefs ...these nuts will do it anyway.
peace
Darkstar

Darkstar74! Last warning: the Retort will not tolerate common sense and you are ORDERED to cease such subversive activity. Please forward your Social Anxiety number to the moderator at once and report for auto da fe at the Palace of Pain Dungeon in New York's glamorous SOHO post haste.
And you just be grateful this is a democracy rather than Pinochet's dictatorship.

Liberals can understand the military recruiter being killed but don't ever advocate it and the reverse is true of real conservatives.

Liberals condemned both killings. I appreciate you reaching out, but don't do it by equivocating the position liberals took on the shooting of the military recruiter.

I can understand both actions, and both actions are unacceptable. Neither warrant praise. Neither deserve tacit approval.

"Well why not, the left did."

Why lie?

#29 | Posted by Danforth

Because truth does not fit their "facts".

I guess if one thinks legal means moral,

Far from it, but the law has to walk the line between what is moral and not.

If you don't like the legal definition of late term abortion, work to overturn it.

It may very well make abortions illegal, but it will not end abortions.

Just like abstinence sex education did not end teenage pregnancies.

I'd much rather answer and report for judgment as Scott Roeder than Killer Tiller.
.......#6 | Posted by Johnson

.......but of course you would........

......for all your windbag pretensions, you are just as ignorant as he is..........

"Johnson" would rather "report for judgment" as Roeder than Tiller. What curious phraseology! "Johnson" wants to be REMEMBERED - I fear that's as much "judgment" as anyone will ever get - as an assassin rather than a healer. That's his (???) call, and he (???) should have his (???) way. herm

Maybe not, come to think of it, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and their ilk. herm

#77 | Posted by herm
Funny how only the "conservative" judges make your list. Not only are you a proponent of the culture of death, you are also a tool.

I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white....

Guess you forgot about that one HARM. 80 years and still eating from a bottle.

Tiller Suspect: Don't Treat Me Like a Criminal

I agree! He's not an ordinary criminal.

Treat him like the terrorist he is!

The state should have executed Killer Tiller, or at least removed him from a situation in which he could terminate innocent life. It is the failure of the state to act properly and its degeneracy that necessitated a motivated moral man to end this continuing orgy of condoned murder by interdicting the despicable actions of Tiller the Baby Killer. That someone this evil was enabled to perform his brutal butchery for so long, is a condemnation of our society and each of us who stood by and did not act. Scott Roeder has helped rehabilitate us and relieve us of our sins by acting where we should have acted.

Of all the vile and loathsome things that creep and crawl upon their bellies upon this Earth, of all the slime, this loathsome creature, Tiller the Baby Killer, was the most reprehensible of all. I know that most of you are secularists, but if "the roll is called up yonder," I'd much rather answer and report for judgment as Scott Roeder than Killer Tiller.

#6 | Posted by Johnson at 2009-06-06 04:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey, Shit-Stain,

It doesn't MATTER what you think! It's the law!! Deal with it, you terrorist-loving loon.

Scott Roeder, Redeemer.

#7 | Posted by Johnson at 2009-06-06 04:28 PM

Johnson, supporter of Christian Terrorism.

Cidney, in his (?) sputtering attempts to pooh-pooh anything that might improve the human condition, seems to lose track of what he (?) started to say. Can anyone paraphrase? herm

seems to lose track of what he (?) started to say-HARM

It was a quote from sotomayor you idiot. Merely to demonstrate how ludacris you sounded attacking conservative judges only:

"Judges, at least in theory, put law over prejudices. Maybe not, come to think of it, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and their ilk." herm

Go back to your baby bottle HARM.

Yav you totally missed my point. I said libs never advocate it. My point is conservatives and liberals that are not part of the fringe CONDEMN the killing of Tiller and the Recruiter. Some try and say O'Reilly was responsible but thats crap. just like Oberman isn't for the recruiter. At risk is free speech cus some close to the fringe are all emboldened and want to make conservative talk pay.If they do clip O'Reilly's and Rush's wings there will still be nuts killing anyway.
Hope you understand better Yav
Darkstar

What an odd thing to say?

"Don't treat me like a criminal."

He's right.
The basis of our system is "innocent until proven guilty." So for right now, we shouldn't treat him like a criminal.
We should wait until after the trial. And THEN throw his worthless ass in jail for the rest of his life.

Judges, at least in theory, put law over prejudices. Maybe not, come to think of it, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and their ilk. herm

#77 | POSTED BY HERM AT 2009-06-07 03:53 PM | REPLY | FLAG

I hardly think a reluctance to bend to the politics of the day by a justice should be considered a prejudice.

"I hardly think a reluctance to bend to the politics of the day should be considered a prejudice."

The thing, Somo, is that the Scalito prejudices are political in nature. herm

"Don't treat me like a criminal."

He's right.
The basis of our system is "innocent until proven guilty." So for right now, we shouldn't treat him like a criminal.
We should wait until after the trial. And THEN throw his worthless ass in jail for the rest of his life.

#96 | Posted by hawk

with Cheney, too?