For all of you wingnuts out there who seem to believe that the Left is united in it's support of President Obama this opinion piece should be an eye opener. Ted Rall is about as far to the Left as Limbaugh is to the Right.

Yeah, people on both sides of the political isle can be overly dramatic. Big time news story. *Yawn*

Ted -

Not to worry. You've got only 1252 days, 9 hours, 2 minutes, and 46 seconds before Obama's second inauguration.

HOLY CRAPPE!

TED RALL?!?

he's like the voice of the left...scratches head...never thought i'd agree with HIM.

Always enjoyed reading Rall. He let Bush have it and he is lettign Obama have it. So few non-partisans out there left...

...overly dramatic. -- #2 | Posted by kevin23

#6 | Posted by Phoenix

Oops; try again.

...overly dramatic. -- #2 | Posted by kevin23

This is worthy of drama:

...Obama's plan for "preventive detentions." If a cop or other government official thinks you might want to commit a crime someday, you could be held in "prolonged detention."

WOW!!!

...Obama's plan for "preventive detentions." If a cop or other government official thinks you might want to commit a crime someday, you could be held in "prolonged detention."

So what you're saying is that he's keeping the status quo for now? Hey, I'm with you that federal executive power is out of control. But pretending that Obama has a duty to completely blow up a trend that has continued for decades during a time when most Americans are pissing their pants and telling pollsters they'd be ok with living under these conditions? And do it all right now or else? That's unrealistic.

Lets not get overly dramatic about suddenly living in a police state when nothing has changed. Critisize away, but this article is painfully stupid in its conclusion. If you're truly worried about your civil liberties, then donating to the ACLU would be a hell of a lot more productive than calling for a democratic president's resignation.

he's like the voice of the left...scratches head...never thought i'd agree with HIM.

#4 | Posted by nanc

Nanc is a liberal, nanc is a liberal, na na na na na.....

...donating to the ACLU would be a hell of a lot more productive than calling for a democratic president's resignation. -- #9 | Posted by kevin23

Good point. Gotta wonder if Rall has given any thought to the line of succession. President Biden... President Pelosi...

If you're truly worried about your civil liberties, then donating to the ACLU would be a hell of a lot more productive than calling for a democratic president's resignation.

#9 | Posted by kevin23

Ok ,I nominate this as the stupidest post of the day.

Unless the ACLU is calling for Omama to step down?

#10 | Posted by Lipzoidial

take. it. back!

Rall giving thought....

Jesus, Phoenix. You are giving this piece-of-shit WAY too much credit.

Nanc isn't a liberal....she's a Democrat in Conservative clothing.

#15 | Posted by kanrei

take. it. back!

i'm actually socially left of center on the political compass and DO believe charity should be given back to the churches and taken completely OUT of government hands.

I take it back...you are really a Muslim extremist disgusied as a Communist pretending to be a Democrat in Conservative clothing.

Ok ,I nominate this as the stupidest post of the day.

#12 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at 2009-06-03 01:40 PM at 2009-06-03 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag: Self Retorting Retort

#17 | Posted by kanrei

once i dissect that i'm sure i'll find a compliment in there somewhere...*8]

#18 | Posted by kevin23 at 2009-06-03 02:06 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: Auto Erotica Asphyxiation

I can give him credit for saying perfect the Obamaman ain't. But resign? You think that maybe that would have less chance that a snowball in the Sahara? His predecessor started two wars based on lies. By comparison, Obamaman is doing fine. However, lets not wait until the entire country goes down the bankrupt road before raising our voices.

Rall draws those ridiculous characters with banana republic military uniforms - El Cap-E-tawn - and gained an audience in the alternative press criticizing the authoritarians. That he now hammers the ObamaMama indicates a turn on the Left.

Like many I gave O the benefit of the doubt and listened to what he said during the campaign and even supported him in the primary - until FISA.

After that nothing surprised me. My expectations continue to diminish as do my hopes for this country.

I'd love for 0bama to resign IF Biden and Pelosi resign FIRST (and who ever comes after them until we get to Reid). Reid is bad (and he's been my shitty Senator/Governor since like forever)but he's still marginally preferable to the other 3.

I'd love for 0bama to resign IF Biden and Pelosi resign FIRST (and who ever comes after them until we get to Reid). -- #23 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch

Well, that's an awful lot of resignations:

Is Ted the lefty, who has been in the political arena so long, still so gullible that he had "expectations" of a politician?

He must live in another dimension someplace.

You would think that he'd be embarrassed to remain such an easy mark for con man politicians. Remember that nowadays you need to be a narcissistic sociopath in the political milieu that exists to run the gauntlet to attain high political office.

And somehow, this lefty dismissed the Obama's hate filled roots and thought that somehow Obama wasn't really the historical Obama, but rather someone who fulfilled the projected fantasy of Ted the leftist ideologue.

Washington resign, we've been fighting for several years but we aren't winning.
Lincoln resign we've been fighting for several years but we aren't winning.
Roosevelt we've been fighting for several years but we aren't winning.
Obama resign, we've been fighting for several years but we aren't winning.

The liberal messiah is on a mission to promote Islam. He shunned National Day of Prayer and bowed to the ruler of Saudi Arabia. He approved weapons purchase to Egypt and denied the same to Israel. He declared that America is not a Christian country and then went on to highlight the population of Muslims in America. An obvious pattern is beginning to show....

I guess it will take a while for liberals to open their eyes though.

"America is not a Christian country"

#27 | Posted by takitez at 2009-06-03 09:22 PM | Reply | Flag: correct

Treaty of Tripoli, shit-for-brains.

Obama is the Islamic equivalent of the Manchurian Candidate, using his office to advance Islamic interests. Obama identifies as an Islamic. After all, he was enrolled as an Islamic in a maddrassah. See what he does. Iran is okay with Obama as if a terrorist state's possession of atomic bombs does not jeopardize us, the Great Satan. Wait and see Obama seek reconciliation with Islamic terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hizbullah, and others. What is it, some 1 out of 7 Gitmo detainees released, those considered least dangerous is known to have returned to terrorist activities, killing Americans, so Obama wants to release the "more dangerous" terrorists because what. So they too can advance the terrorist cause and Obama can demonstrate his de facto solidarity with the Islamics? Seems so.

Hey,Zat, I'm gonna be in Austin for a few days...where's the best bar-b-que in those parts?....And any other valuable info you may want to impart.

You know the apocalypse is near when Ted Rall and I agree on something politically.

But I called for Hussein to resign first.

I listened to Micheal Medved interview Rall yesterday about this and Rall is most perturbed about Gitmo, he wants all the terrorists at Club Gitmo released immediately.

So remember this, if agree with Rall more then 1% of the time, your brain is filled with maggots and rot.

Translation of Johnson's above post in the interests of brevity:

I can't stand Obama. I think he is a closet Muslim who supports terrorists.

And BTW, this is another reason to remind everyone that Hussein is the least qualified, most dangerous, person who has ever bamboozled his way into the office of the Presidency.

Hussein is not only engaged in the biggest power grab in US history, he has spent more money then any other person in world history.

Hussein is turning America into a socialist, muslim country.

Dude is the anti christ with a medicore jump-shot and homosexual tendencies.

i'm actually socially left of center on the political compass and DO believe charity should be given back to the churches and taken completely OUT of government hands.

#16 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-03 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

You are not socially left of center. Churches can do whatever they want to for charity NOW--nothing is stopping them from taking care of the poor. Nothing except their own greed and nctimonios attitude. Church based charities are inherently evil.

Think the church wil pay your mortgage for 6 months---feed and clothe your children, and give you dignity? Ths government will. Churches won't.

You aren't left of Bush in any area. You are as right wing as the come.

Rall is really pissed off.

Seems he sees the arrogance that Michelle was complaining about in 2000 about her own husband.

Of course this guy has no concept of time or space beyond just to feel good about letting terrorists go.

Obama is doing the same as Bush for foreign policy--who knew?

And to think Obama alleged in his 2004 DNC speech before Kerry nomination --that the Bush administration was scooping up people off the street without trials.

Some complaining there..

I suspect Rall won't be the last to come to his senses.

And the left will squash him for his dissent against the one.

#34... ooops.. the site...

I'm sure Obama is concerned about a nutball like Ted Rall the cartoon man. Obama is a committed liberal, but most of the people that voted for him weren't. And politicians, above all, like to get elected.

I guess its back to Rall endorsing Cindy Sheehan and Cynthia McKinney.

Church based charities are inherently evil.
Classic quote from Buffalo_Bob. Who as you can tell from this quote is a certified idiot.

Hussein is turning America into a socialist, muslim country.

Dude is the anti christ with a medicore jump-shot and homosexual tendencies.

#35 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-06-03 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Zitchy gets hysterical and cowers like a LEETLE GUUUURL..

HA HA

I had never heard of Rall until he published this.

Good try! Turkey, in the current scheme of things, is far more valuable to the United States than the turn of the century internal problem they caused.

You bitch and moan about us involving ourselves in EVERYONE else's problem - then push to get us involved in someone else's internal problem!

This was proven, at the time it was going thru Congress, to be nothing more than another way to deny us an operational base for Iraq support and, to a degree, it worked.

The Turkish government refused us safe passage thru their country, and it could have kept us from giving humanitarian aid to Georgia, after the Russian INVASION and current occupation.

There are consequences to every action, or inaction.

It is a good trick to rehash this Bull now, but it pulls the eyes away from the true story!

The hi-jacking of the American economy and liquidation sale of the same! How can you get LESS for MORE? Just wait, you'll see!

It showed a lot of patience on Ted Rall's part not to demand this earlier. He had to be ready to call for Obama's resignation by the end of the first month.

It showed a lot of patience on Ted Rall's part not to demand this earlier. He had to be ready to call for Obama's resignation by the end of the first month.

#45 | Posted by rcade

Hahahaha...

You never want to give me any credit for being first....

You never want to give me any credit for being first....
#46 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

First?

Get in line, you clown.

I said I wear a 'mask'.

Mention my name again and will chainsaw your soul.

Mention my name again and will chainsaw your soul.

Rex... once again saying things on the internet that he is too much of a pussy to say in real life.

I said I wear a 'mask'

my mistake. lol.

So what you're saying is that he's keeping the status quo for now? ...Lets not get overly dramatic about suddenly living in a police state when nothing has changed. -- #9 | Posted by kevin23

Change you can believe in?

#36 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

it is NOT the duty of the government.

#43 | Posted by babuenthal

rall has been the bane of the conservative's contention for several years - it is truly amazing that even he can see what is happening to this nation. i have to give him credit where credit's due - i personally would hate the guy if i were a hateful person.

Who's this Hussein guy people keep talking about? Wasn't he hanged after being pulled from a spider hole?

In practice, Obama wants to let government goons snatch you, me and anyone else they deem annoying off the street.

Preventive detention is the classic defining characteristic of a military dictatorship. Because dictatorial regimes rely on fear rather than consensus, their priority is self-preservation rather than improving their people's lives. They worry obsessively over the one thing they can't control, what Orwell called "thoughtcrime"--contempt for rulers that might someday translate to direct action.

---------

Obama = smarter bush

A black nazi is no better than a white one.

it is NOT the duty of the government.

#52 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-03 11:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, it is. This country is of the people by the people, and FOR THE PEOPLE. The government should not let its poor people go without food and shelter. Such a government is useless.

You fail to address the fact that churches are not feeding or giving the poor shelter now---if they were, the government wouldntneed to have welfar. What makes you think they would step up and give as much as the government?

Finally, some honesty from the Left. Calling for his resignation for breaking all of the promises cited and essentially giving us "more of the same" may be over the top, but it's nice to see a liberal actually acknowledge that Obama is nothing more than a worthless fucking tool.

Never heard of Ted Rall. Go away you stupid tool.

#58 - Are you serious that you've never heard of Ted Rall?

i'm actually socially left of center on the political compass and DO believe charity should be given back to the churches and taken completely OUT of government hands.

#16 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-03 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Most church donations go towards maintaining the actual church and not towards donations to the indigent. You and I both know if the govt did nothing for the poor and it was left to the church people would far worse off. We would see poverty similar to what occurs in South America. The church is free to give to the poor nothing is stopping them. BB is right. If the church did such a great job the Govt wouldn't even be involved instead the churches will always do an inadequate job.

#58 - Are you serious that you've never heard of Ted Rall?

#59 | Posted by MrFair

Serious. I take he is a liberal author? I mainly get my news from places like cnn.com and foxnews.com

Giving Obama and his CorpoRat Masters the Old Heave Ho!!!

Kevin23o.d. said "Lets not get overly dramatic about suddenly living in a police state when nothing has changed. Critisize away, but this article is painfully stupid in its conclusion. If you're truly worried about your civil liberties, then donating to the ACLU would be a hell of a lot more productive than calling for a democratic president's resignation."

"Nothing has changed...?" I thought that was Obama's main presidential platform and battle cry,that is: "America Needs Change!!!" So Kev'n you're admitting Obama hasn't done anything - thus he's not only a liar he's also incompotent! In fact the only thing Obama has done is to pander and cater to his CorpoRat Masters who got him elected.So time for this useless asshole "puppet" of a president to go isn't it?
(Oh by the by one thing that has changed since Obama was foisted on America is that SCOTUS has on his behalf,overturned the civil rights protections of Miranda! That Nazi styled loss of rights is kind of "Dramatic" don't ya think? Course you probbly can't!)

Also if you like contribute to the ACLU - just remember do so while you still have the cash - otherwise Obama and his Pro Israel Zionist pals will "pre-empt" your money to bailout their pals on Wall St!

As far as removing Obama from office Kev you're right,yes the political system in America is Totally Fucked and owned & operated by the Corporate Fascists and the only way possible these days for the U.S.public to remove a "Criminal Govt" like Obama's is to march in mass on Washington and physically give all these corrupt politicos a very rude,heave ho!!!

Church based charities are inherently evil.

Think the church wil pay your mortgage for 6 months---feed and clothe your children, and give you dignity? Ths government will. Churches won't.

You are the dumbest person on this website by far. Some churches help people with rent and other bills all the time. I have a friend whose church just paid for his lung surgery. You are talking out of your ass, because you are by far the biggest moron I have ever encountered in my life.

Another columnist almost at the realization it is not a two-party system. It is an oligarchy. So even if Obama resigned, the replacement will not reverse course.

it's an ad, no sale, no hits for Rall.

Joe not evil but incapable of dealing with the nations poor. I appreciate the help a church will provide but many churches are barely surviving themselves. Churches pay mortgages and utilities just like every business does. After salaries and other expenses I am sure they do try to help. However it isn't to help as many poor people we have in this country.

#63 | Posted by JOE at 2009-06-04 01:24 AM | Reply | Flag

You miss the point as usual. I never said that some churches don't do that. The POINT is that churches don't do it for ALL the people who need it. They could do it for all the people who need it---nothing is stopping them.

The government takes care of ALL the people who need it. Get it, little mind? Should I use smaller words?

The government takes care of ALL the people who need it. Get it, little mind? Should I use smaller words?

#68 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

They don't take care all of the people. We have tons of homeless people in this country. They do however take care of more people than the church does.

Rastaninja

Can you imagine the howling the Reps would put up if the government gave food and housing to every homeless person?

Churches don't even come close to coming close to taking care of as many people as the government.

Most of the homeless have government options they aren't taking advantage of, or don't know about. But you are correct---not all are helped. The churches aren't helping them either.

Why not kill the sludge?

Open the vain...

It's too easy to beat the meat without destroying the savage..

Can you imagine the howling the Reps would put up if the government gave food and housing to every homeless person?

Churches don't even come close to coming close to taking care of as many people as the government.

Proof?

After that, maybe you can tell me how much more churches AND OTHER CHARITIES (since not all charities are church run) would be able to do if the government wasn't taking so much cash out of the pockets of people that would donate to them.

The government is bureaucratic and inefficient. How much of that money goes to waste? How much goes to "administration costs"? Many churches and other charities are worked by volunteers... not paid employees.

Another "Gotcha Moment" from a relatively
small fish in the waters of the Media,
stiring up the waters of uh...something or other,
so that he can probably drum up excitement about some lackluster book effort he has coming...

If the media is nothing else, it's predictable.
It seems the only way to make news now-a-days,
is to MAKE the news yourself...

This is what I love about the Media. They actually think that their opinions are
"so important" to the rest of us...

Ted who? Ted what?

News is Dead. Welcome to self-generated Infotainment...where every arsehole with a blog or
a computer suddenly thinks that they are relevant...

News is Dead. Welcome to self-generated Infotainment...where every arsehole with a blog or
a computer suddenly thinks that they are relevant...

#73 | Posted by earthmuse at 2009-06-04 07:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

This statement reminds me of the snake eating its own tail.

#69 | Posted by rastaninja

and "the" so called "church" will suffer dearly for this sin against humans.

Nanc you and I know the church is ill equipped to handle the poverty situation on this country. People aren't religious zealots in this country. People also don't tithe in mass either. The funds aren't there. I suspect you know this and don't care. You just want lower taxes. You also live in a rural are where there is poverty but is more masked because you don't see it everyday. I'll bet that some of the people in your community rely on things such as foodstamps and housing assistance. You just realize it or choose not to know about it.

#60 | Posted by rastaninja

by your reasoning people like joyce meyers, john hagee, joel osteen, rick warren, et al, who make collectively in the billions on "self help" and "feel good" books under the guise of "faith" COULDN'T put an end to the poverty in this nation?

the church is NOT a building or limousines, nor should it be a capital venture.

the only churches i see truly doing for people and getting them on their feet are the small churches who could care less if they met in a parking lot or an empty store building.

shame on the church.

rasta - you have no idea what i've seen and know - i'm not going to brag by telling you everything our family does in the name of charity, but i'll tell you that our daughter did a 30 hour fast for famine recently and received over a hundred dollars in two days on short notice for the hungry. people are still charitable.

You miss the point as usual. I never said that some churches don't do that. The POINT is that churches don't do it for ALL the people who need it. They could do it for all the people who need it---nothing is stopping them.

"Think the church wil pay your mortgage for 6 months---feed and clothe your children, and give you dignity? Ths government will. Churches won't."

The...goalposts...are...moving
...

Nanc wow a hundred dollars!!!

If she can raise a trillion I'll let her run the poverty programs. Some people are charitable. However not enough people are to tackle the problem. That is why it needs to be done through taxes. We will never agree on this because you think donations could handle the problems. I don't think it would. I see it falling far short of needs causing many in this country to go hungry and without medical care.

Serious. I take he is a liberal author?

Ted Rall is a liberal cartoonist and political columnist who was a rabid critic of Bush. And now a rabid critic of Obama, apparently. Maybe he's just plain rabid.

Ted Rall is a liberal cartoonist and political columnist who was a rabid critic of Bush. And now a rabid critic of Obama, apparently. Maybe he's just plain rabid.

Ted Rall is an island of idealism in the fetid sea of pragmatism.

by your reasoning people like joyce meyers, john hagee, joel osteen, rick warren, et al, who make collectively in the billions on "self help" and "feel good" books under the guise of "faith" COULDN'T put an end to the poverty in this nation?

They couldn't end poverty because they don't want to. I don't see them giving away their fortunes any time soon. when you look at what it takes to break the cycle of poverty you need far more money than what these religious zealots have.

Maybe he's just plain rabid.

Now that he has added Obama to his target list you say that.

Don't you think it's possible that someone can see that both parties are as fucked up as soup sandwiches and be right?

#83 | Posted by rastaninja

exactly, they have cursed themselves. God help them.

ted rall's bio at dtn:

Unlike Limbaugh and O'Reilly Rall will criticize anything and everybody but in every other way he's their mirror image. A complainer who stirs people up but has nothing positive to offer. He's the difference between a megapreacher on TV and our local churches and volunteer organizations. It's a bit of an over-simplification but one is all mouth and the other is all action.

Nanc I check out some mainstream news sites and get the rest of my news from sat radio.

A complainer who stirs people up but has nothing positive to offer.

I'll bet the left thought he was cool, though, until he went after Obama. If he had stuck his criticisms to Bush, the left would still love him.

rasta - i rarely watch television, but do admit i watch beck much moreso because of the entertainment qualities! reading is my passion, not listening to or watching people who are in love with the sounds of their voices.

You're quite wrong about me, Goatman, and I'm on the left, if only because the right has become both insupportable and unsupportable. Rall has always been a whinger. One of those people who themselves do nothing useful but forever sit on their ass criticizing others who do from a very narrow perspective and contributing nothing positive. If that makes O'Reilly and Limbaugh despicable and it does, it makes Rall despicable too.

#90 - so essentially, anyone who disagrees with you you can find NO common ground with?

p.s. - rall's a successful businessman...

#90

No, I find no common ground with people like Rall, Limbaugh or O'Reilly and I'm very glad of that. My wife disagrees with me sometimes as I expect your husband does with you sometimes. We remain married.

#91

So's Limbaugh and O'Reilly and Rupert Murdoch. So is/was Cheney. So is Larry Flynt.

#93 - did you read the dtn bio i linked above?

"My wife disagrees with me sometimes as I expect your husband does with you sometimes. We remain married."

must be a chore, eh?

#95.

Maybe for you, not for us.

#96 - so the ennui is what makes your marriage thrive - cool!

we remain married - i love that!

"Ted Rall is about as far to the Left as Limbaugh is to the Right."

Two sides of the same coin. Both entirely predictable and without substance.

#94

I did read the bio. He's not without achievement but it's what he did and didn't do with it that can be supported or opposed. I find little to support, if others do then we can do the DR thing and argue about it.

i don't want to argue about ted rall - i just have to wonder what makes people like or dislike a person of his background.

I never said that some churches don't do that.
#68 Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-06-04 01:57 AM

Church based charities are inherently evil.

Think the church wil pay your mortgage for 6 months---feed and clothe your children, and give you dignity? Ths government will. Churches won't.

#36 Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-06-03 09:43 PM

#97

Nice one, Nanc. Gotta watch that marital ennui(26 + years now). In that vein I'm now off to actually talk to my wife.

change?

hope?

Monstrous bailout crimes that will impoverish us and neutralize the military core of our being.

The worst thing to happen on the international front is the Taliban invading nuclear Pakistan. They are partners with al Qaida.

As disappointed in Obama as I am, and I am very disappointed, I know I will be thankful he won the day McCain dies and I know Palin will not be sworn in. I admit to my vote being decided by one issue and that issue was Palin not becoming President.

"Ted Rall is an island of idealism in the fetid sea of pragmatism." Great line!

#101 | Posted by JOE at 2009-06-04 10:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

I guess you can't tell the difference between Achurch, and THE church.

That's because your grasp of the written word is limited. Don't blame me for your lack of comprehension. You should have paid more attention in school.

I guess you can't tell the difference between Achurch, and THE church.

ROFL

Someone get this man an antenna so he can put himself out of his misery.

Someone get this man an antenna so he can put himself out of OUR misery.

#107 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2009-06-04 11:11 AM

Fixed...no charge =D

so he can put himself out of his misery.

That would be a charitable thing to do...don't count on it. d'b00b is a coward and liar.
Definitely the worse troll on the site.

Someone get this man an antenna so he can put himself out of his misery.

Ted Rall is an island of idealism in the fetid sea of pragmatism.

Calling for a new president to resign because he hasn't kept some promises, five months into office, takes idealism to its most ridiculous extreme.

I don't know why that happens. Sometimes my quote goes out, but not my response. Anyway, #110 should have ended:

Suicide by car antennae. That's something I'd pay to see.

Proof?

Proof is in the pudding. They could be helping the poor now to a significant amount---they aren't doing it. Nothing is stopping them. That isn't their goal.

After that, maybe you can tell me how much more churches AND OTHER CHARITIES (since not all charities are church run) would be able to do if the government wasn't taking so much cash out of the pockets of people that would donate to them.

I guess you think that the government spends all its money on poor people, and nothing on Defence, war, bail-outs, or anything else. Facts are the government spends about 3% of its income on welfare. Giving that 3% back to the taxpayer would have little effect on what people give to churches. Not that facts make any difference to you.

The government is bureaucratic and inefficient.

No, they aren't. They are very efficient. Millions upon millions are taken care of every month. Bureaucracy is necessary with such a large administration task.

How much of that money goes to waste?

Define waste? Lost? Where did it go? I know of no waste in welfare. I know of billions "Misplaced" in Iraq. Poof its gone. Maybe we should cut back on the bureacratic military that loses a pallet f money.

How much goes to "administration costs"?

You think there aren't "administration costs"? How do you propose the money gets administered?

Many churches and other charities are worked by volunteers... not paid employees.

Sure--and they can go in and go home when they like. Make them work 8 hours a day and see if they don't want some benefits and pay. See if 3 people at a church can handle 4,000 applicants, and see if they can figure out how to make the application and the rules for application. How do they decide who gets how much money, and for how long---"administration costs"?

#72 | Posted by moomanfl at 2009-06-04 03:16 AM | Reply | Flag

Calling for a new president to resign because he hasn't kept some promises, five months into office, takes idealism to its most ridiculous extreme.

The calls for resignation are hyperbole. Accountability is where his idealism lies, like a true patriotic American. Meanwhile, Brian Williams is trying to get a whiff of Michelle's perfume and making kissy face at Barack in the NBC infomercial last night.

#102 | Posted by brock

i know - i just called my husband (forgetting he was in an important job progress meeting) and we visited about the children, the weather and all sorts of things and then he said quietly, "i love you, but i'm in an important meeting and will call you back in a few." now you give the little woman a good talking to!

from just above...

Calling for a new president to resign because he hasn't kept some promises, five months into office, takes idealism to its most ridiculous extreme.

EXACTLY...

and so I repeat myself...

Another "Gotcha Moment" from a relatively
small fish in the waters of the Media,
stiring up the waters of uh...something or other,
so that he can probably drum up excitement about some lackluster book effort he has coming...

If the media is nothing else, it's predictable.
It seems the only way to make news now-a-days,
is to MAKE the news yourself...

This is what I love about the Media. They actually think that their opinions are
"so important" to the rest of us...

Ted who? Ted what?

News is Dead. Welcome to self-generated Infotainment...where every arsehole with a blog or
a computer suddenly thinks that they are relevant...

This is a Self-generated News Story to garner some attention for his obviously flagging ego/editorial
business...

people who attack any public figure no matter the side...are mainly in it for themselves (i.e. they are selling something)

Whatever standard is being applied to call for Obama's resignation would, guaranteed, apply to anyone else elected to the office of presidency. Would be a very interesting situation if all such people resigned a few months into their term.

#62 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2009-06-04 01:21 AM

Wow.

How do I respond to that?

Ah. Here:

what's left of the country should be so lucky...

Ted who? Ted what?

News is Dead. Welcome to self-generated Infotainment...where every arsehole with a blog or
a computer suddenly thinks that they are relevant...

At least he has the balls to call into question the fraud that is Obama. Again, have you seen the Brian Williams "Obama infomercial"? If that is news, I'll take Ted Rall every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Not one sentence of his article had anything to do with the cult of personality worship that is a prerequisite to be considered news these days.

people who attack any public figure no matter the side...are mainly in it for themselves (i.e. they are selling something)

As opposed to those who will only attack that which is on the opposite side? They are selling something too...

I'd be wary of the Turks too. You ever fight a Turk? Got my ass kicked by a Turk once, and it was not at all fun.

you right wingers are such hypocrites.

If McCain had won and Rall had printed up an article asking for McCain's resignation; yall would be calling Ted Rall a "traitor"

But yall love him right now since he is criticizing another Democrat.

It just goes to show that the left wing is open minded and will criticize their leadership regardless.

You hypocrites on the right wing stayed quiet when it was Bush wrecking the economy and starting wars for no good reason.

Now, since Obama is basically continuing some Bush policies, its tea baggers and fake outrage

You hypocrites on the right wing stayed quiet when it was Bush wrecking the economy and starting wars for no good reason.

Now, since Obama is basically continuing some Bush policies, its tea baggers and fake outrage

By the same token, why are the lefties supporting Obama when he is, as you said "continuing some Bush policies?" I discovered Rall from his Bush rants and find I am still in agreement with his rhetoric today. To some of us, truth doesn't have a letter behind its name.

Ted Rall is a "leftie"

No shit...and the left isn't really fond of him right now based on this thread.

who has spoken out against Ted Rall?

"I'd be wary of the Turks too. You ever fight a Turk? Got my ass kicked by a Turk once, and it was not at all fun."

I only knew one Turkish guy and he wasn't particularly intimidating. We had no reason to fight.

But he did tell me that baseball bats are a huge seller in Turkey and nobody there plays baseball.

Turks and their fucking baseball bats. Just stay away.

I am more curious about this 'Preventive Detention" theory to detain "terrorist" who may be thinking about terrorism...That explains why the "right-wing extremism" memo from Napolotano...HUMMMMM, Like Bush, they can say "we are only targeting msuslim extremeist" and bang..people in the US are being eavesdropped on..How long before "preventive detention" applies to a conservative (a.k.a. right wing extremeist) for speaking out against Democrat Fascism...Very sneaky

I spent 18 months in Turkey. I don't recommend it. Great for history though. Ephesus especially. Santa Claus was from Turkey.

I spent 18 months in Turkey.

#130 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Didn't they make a movie about that?

Didn't they make a movie about that?

Car Antenna Express?

Ted Rall can suck a dick.

"From health care to torture to the economy to war, Obama has reneged on pledges real and implied."

How did Obama 'renege'? We no longer torture and Healthcare is being worked on as we speak.

It's been about 135 days that President Obama has been in office. Some things take time to accomplish. This tool is just anther one of the 'instant gratification' crowd.

"I spent 18 months in Turkey."

#130 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Now we know the answer to the question, "Ever been in a Turkish prison?"

from above...

..."At least he has the balls to call into question the fraud that is Obama."

120 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2009-06-04 01:31 PM

yeah, at least 25% +/- 3 % of the country feels that way... the other 65-70% of the country are
willing to give Obama a chance, or don't think he's doing such a bad job...

The only people calling Obama a fraud (other than this one lone attack everyone after 4 months of service, editorialist) is the wacked out fringe Right--which unfortunately comprises almost the entire remainder of the once proud Republican Party

but hey...you're a vocal minority if only a minority...congrats on that...

p.s. you will lose the next Presidential Election as well...

cya in 2012!!

Earthmuse

This is no place for rational thought. Can't you read? You must be new.

yeah, at least 25% +/- 3 % of the country feels that way... the other 65-70% of the country are
willing to give Obama a chance, or don't think he's doing such a bad job...

Most of that 65-70 percent either don't care, or they listen to what Obama says rather than what he does. The fact of the matter is that on the majority of the major planks of his platform that differentiated him from McCain (and to a lesser extent, Hillary) he has backtracked, reversed or taken a complete 180.

The only people calling Obama a fraud (other than this one lone attack everyone after 4 months of service, editorialist) is the wacked out fringe Right--which unfortunately comprises almost the entire remainder of the once proud Republican Party

Just because you refuse to face facts does not mean that they are not there. Obama snowjobbed an entire populace who were on the verge of rioting against Dubya. Now that Obama is doing the EXACT same thing as Bush, nobody cares...because they think they have their guy in there, when in reality he cares about as much as Dubya did.

p.s. you will lose the next Presidential Election as well...

cya in 2012!!

Holy shit! I'm running for President?!?!?

This is no place for rational thought. Can't you read? You must be new.

That's why he's here.

"Most of that 65-70 percent either don't care, or they listen to what Obama says rather than what he does. The fact of the matter is that on the majority of the major planks of his platform that differentiated him from McCain (and to a lesser extent, Hillary) he has backtracked, reversed or taken a complete 180."

So why aren't the people who criticized him for those platforms happy? (Oh, right, too logical. Getting what I want is not enough. I have to get it from those I want to get it from, in the package I like.)

I think a lot of people wanted Obama to be something he's not. And I think to a degree he played into that. But what politician doesn't?

Btw, I'm upset about the preventive detention deal (though I find it hilarious that anyone on the right, at least who supported Bush, is upset about interference with civil liberties) and about the healthcare benefits idea. Maybe more. But it's early yet.

So why aren't the people who criticized him for those platforms happy? (Oh, right, too logical. Getting what I want is not enough. I have to get it from those I want to get it from, in the package I like.)

For the most part, they are. Hillary supporters ended up with Hillary in the department where she opposed Obama (foreign policy). The rest who were critical are exactly like Obama supporters...they don't really care what happens as long as their guy is pulling the trigger.

I don't know why that happens. Sometimes my quote goes out, but not my response. Anyway, #110 should have ended:

Suicide by car antennae. That's something I'd pay to see.

#112 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-04 11:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

Have you ever lived in the south? If so, you know your statement is false. If not, how can you judge someplace you've never lived?

#39 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-02 10:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Yes, I live in the Deep South and my state (LA- South Louisiana that is) was one that used the Const. ammendment I spoke of.

Yes I did sterotype as you do with partisanship...

Posted by lfthndthrds at 2009-06-03 03:41 PM | Reply

What's wrong Goatie? Cat got your tongue?

What's wrong Goatie? Cat got your tongue?

Concerning what?

from above...

"Most of that 65-70 percent either don't care, or they listen to what Obama says rather than what he does. The fact of the matter is that on the majority of the major planks of his platform that differentiated him from McCain (and to a lesser extent, Hillary) he has backtracked, reversed or taken a complete 180."

#137 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2009-06-04 05:41 PM

hmm...nice story there...lets check it against a little thing I like to call...REALITY...

hmm...lets see...

Obama promised...health care reform...which he is trying to pass, but which the Republicans using fear mongering adds like usual, are trying to stop.

Obama promised...a new dialogue and direction with the Middle East....kept that promise.

Obama promised...that we would be out of Iraq in (two to three years)...still on schedule for that.

Obama promised to still pursue Al Queda in Afghanistan...kept that promise.

Obama promised to repeal the huge tax cut given by Republicans to the richest few % of citizens in the country....kept that promise....although he taxed them less than I would have liked...even Reagan taxed them more.

Lets see...then there was Gun Control, upon which he tried to float a bill that would put limits automatic weapons, but due to the huge FEAR MONGERING campaign
of the radical right and the N.R.A. tool G.O.P. yet again, it was quashed, in fact now you can carry hand guns in National Parks
(still waiting on the first time that goes bad)

Yeah, he changed his mind on torture....sort of.
I think he is honestly trying to change the system,
and find something to do with the prizoners at Gitmo, but it's a very difficult multifaceted problem.....so I cut him a bit of slack there...unlike some...

He promised to tackle the economic slowdown head on,
he did.

He promised that the huge deficits that have been recently accumulated, would reverse themselves over the rest of his first term....that remains to be seen, but I think he's honestly trying to fix it...

But lets be honest here a sec....he INHERITED THIS MESS from G.W. He didn't create it, like some on the Right would have you believe...

furthermore....Reagan....huge deficit, H.W. Bush...huge deficit, G.W. Bush.....huge deficit...

the Republicans have nothing to Crow about...
their track record is Pathetic...

I for one am willing to give him half a chance,
and I don't think his track record has been that
bad so far....

But you go ahead and believe whatever Rightwing Concocted Fiction that you want to believe...

and I'll still be there to cancel your vote in 2012...

"This tool is just anther one of the 'instant gratification' crowd."

Actually, Ted Rall is just doing schtick. Read four or five of his articles (if you can stomach them) and you'll catch on....

Basically, he tries to think up the most "radical" positions he can and then he reverse engineers an arguement in support of them. Most of the time his arguements are very weak but he's decently talented and he can present them in a convincing enough way that the average person who isn't going to take much time to think about what he's actually saying will read it and thing he's said something profound. But under scrutiny, he's revealed to be a hack.

He's just like Ann Coulter.

Ted Rall,

Shut up.

Please.

Elections have consequences and those of us who didn't vote for Obama need to take a long look in the mirror at why Obama won THAT WE CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

There are always the Chris Matthews of the world, mainstream media folks with their tongue in Obama's ear, that'll undoubtedly never change.

Sorry folks, that some of us "conservatives" are such crybabies.

Actually,
both sides have their whiners,
and the one's we cringe at...

I'm a lib dem, and can't stand
Pelosi's smugness...

I wish California would do itself
a favor and vote someone else into
her slot...

B. O. is keeping the terrorists at Gitmo and using new rules like preventive detention because he knows he can't let them out....

He knows we are going to get hit again.

He knows that if he lets the terrorists out of Gitmo and we get hit again, it will be the end of his presidency and his party.

At least Bush had the terror watch level raised when there were signs that an attack could be coming... I think they discontinued the color thing a while ago but we should have something.

B. O. won't do that....

We have a new Video promising a huge attack...

DHS says nothing on it.... No terror level advisory....

Nothing...

The lack of press doesn't help either...

My guess is that after we get hit again from terrorists who crossed from Mexico, The people will have had enough of the Press and this corrupt government.

people like katie Couric will be mobbed and bitch slapped in the street.

Ed Rall has a hidden agenda here.

He wants to be appointed as Obama's Fairness Doctrine Czar.

"Most of that 65-70 percent either don't care, or they listen to what Obama says rather than what he does."

This would be and extension of the theory that, if people don't agree with what I believe, they must be stupid. And then they call others "elitists". Amusing.

I think the point is that even the full fledged, Kool-Aid drinking moonbats are beginning to recognize and acknowledge the mistake of electing this self-absorbed reprobate.

#150 | Posted by aclusux

I think that is personal projection, since I haven't seen anything to confirm it.

I think the point is that even the full fledged, Kool-Aid drinking moonbats are beginning to recognize and acknowledge the mistake of electing this self-absorbed reprobate.

#150 | Posted by aclusux at 2009-06-05 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag

You know? the sad thing is that the press who SOLD B. O. to the American public won't say a negative thing about him.

They have their credibility on the line at this point...

What a friggin ride this is going to be.

Ok ,I nominate this as the stupidest post of the day.

Unless the ACLU is calling for Omama to step down?

#12 | Posted by STIRSUMUP

Why because it's the only one that's ever been posted here that is critical of your beloved? Man, after all the shit you guys dished out over the last 8 years I would think that you might be able to handle a little bit yourselves. I was apparently, but not surprisingly, wrong.

I don't understand what was holding Germany's Merckle back, she should have bitch slapped that fucking failure right on stage, he is an embarrassment to the U.S.A. . Kudos to you Ms Merckle for not buying his line of bullshit and lies, he is no better than the riff raff he has paid off with the trillions of dollars. America is starting to wAKE UP , THEY WERE LULLED BY THE ASSCLOWNS OF hOLLYWOOD AND THE PHONEY BALONEY cLINTON CLOWNS. obama's path is to total chaos.

The veneer is coming off, the honeymoon is ending, and at the end of the day America realizes it has been screwed. I am sure Ms Merckle now realizes this clown could'nt lead a dog down the street, he is a phoney, you see a fascade, he is just a little boy hoping to fool everyone from one day to the next.