Just a good ol' boy exercising his Second Amendment rights. As I note on other threads, this guy has a number of ideological soulmates who post here regularly. herm

nutcase.

our nation is under enough judgment without this.

"nutcase.
our nation is under enough judgment without this."

#2 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-01 09:01 AM | Reply | Flag: Self-retorting

So will all the pro death wind dings call for his execution as well?

if it was pre-meditated and a cold blooded act and he's found guilty i'll support the death penalty - however kansas has not used the death penalty in over 30 years - kansas facts:

The green-teeth pro-death-penalty, anti-abortion, pants-pissers are too busy celebrating this act of terrorism to comment.

The green-teeth pro-death-penalty, anti-abortion, pants-pissers are too busy celebrating this act of terrorism to comment.

If you are refering to the right, there has been one right winger comment on the story and two left wingers. Not exactly a lot from either side, but we enjoyed watching your left knee jerk, axe.

So will all the pro death wind dings call for his execution as well?

#4 | Posted by 726

who? The abortion lovers? I'm sure they will.

Speaking for myself, no, life in prison is fine.

#6 | Posted by axe

look up axehole.

And what's the green teeth reference all about, anyway? Is bad dental hygiene supposed to be a trademark of the right wing now?

i was wondering the same thing, goatman.

I guess you two don't remember that song about the green-toothed redneck?

And people stupid enough to vote Rtard probably don't rank personal hygene high on their priority list.

if it was pre-meditated and a cold blooded act

How many church ushers are shot in a year by accident?

#13 | Posted by 726

he could plead insanity?

#12 | Posted by axe at 2009-06-01 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag: listens to redneck music

i certainly have never heard such a song.

Lets see now, Tiller 60k+. Gunman 1. WOW

And people stupid enough to vote Rtard probably don't rank personal hygene high on their priority list.

Oh.

More pearls of wisdom from axe

And I'll bet you wonder why one one takes you seriously on other matters either, don't you?

Welcome to the world of RIGHTWING DOMESTIC TERRORISM that Napolino warned us about. Time to stick a few Hellfire Missiles into the Freemen's asses.

Allah Akhbar...oh wait, sorry, Praise Jesus for the death of this infidel!

I guess you two don't remember that song about the green-toothed redneck?

#6 | Posted by axe at 2009-06-01 10:06 AM

You maybe thinking of this C&W tune sung by Jerry Jeff Walker? Great song but don't think there's a mention in the lyrics about this redneck mother having green teeth. lol!

Taxman

Can't stick around now to answer you back, but how's the baby doing?

You and your wife getting any sleep?

more religous fruit, proving that those apples are poisonous.....

LM

Now, Nanc, how could someone who walks into a church to shoot mutiple bullets into a physician possibly consider insanity as a defense? That's normal behavior in Kansas.

I'm a JJW fan and I know that song, but I don't think there are any green teeth in it.

How many church ushers are shot in a year by accident?

#13 | Posted by 726
7 it is a quota thing, libs should love it.

xtians are just as evil as muslims.

No excuse for what this guy did. How many people would kill someone that was about to kill a 1 month old baby? How about 1 week old? How about 1 day old? I think most of us would. What about 1 second before birth, or 1 day? Some people have a hard time drawing a distinction between killing a baby 1 second is alright, but wait 30 more and then it is not alright.

"Just a good ol' boy exercising his Second Amendment rights. As I note on other threads, this guy has a number of ideological soulmates who post here regularly."

Yeah, I definitely get that fanatical homicidal raving lunatic vibe off people here.

dipshit.

How's the war on terrorism going?

xtians are just as evil as muslims

The overwhelming majority of christians are not evil, just as an overwhelming majority of muslims are not evil. However, we should put the fundie terrorists from each group in the same boat.

DA Nola Folston is gonna have a field day with this punk. I would be quaking in My jailhouse flip flops right about now. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwww
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Larry

How's the war on terrorism going?

So far, so good. Unless you want to call it a loss because of one death.

So, the guy is at least as anti-government as he is anti-abortion.

Meaning he doesn't want the government to tell anyone what to do, oh, except for pregnant women.

Another NOP supporter.

Roeder also was a subscriber to Prayer and Action News, a magazine that advocated the justifiable homicide position, said publisher Dave Leach, an anti-abortion activist from Des Moines.

In April 1996, Roeder was arrested in Topeka after Shawnee County sheriff's deputies stopped him for not having a proper license plate. In his car, officers said they found ammunition, a blasting cap, a fuse cord, a one-pound can of gunpowder and two 9-volt batteries, with one connected to a switch that could have been used to trigger a bomb.

Not a RIGHTWING DOMESTIC TERRORIST at all.

How many church ushers are shot in a year by accident?

That all depends on which DR Anti-Gun nut job you ask. Could be in the hundreds of thousands!

he could plead insanity?

#14 | Posted by nanc at 2009-06-01 10:41 AM

Possible.

They should ship him off to Gitmo with the rest of the terrorists.

What about 1 second before birth, or 1 day?

What about 9 and 1 day before birth when an innocent life is lost to a kleenex and hand lotion?

9 months and 1 day....^

Its the Pro-Life Assassination Movement.

Not even your Bible will protect you.

Here's the song that the green teeth reference is made to.

They should ship him off to Gitmo with the rest of the terrorists.

Posted by 726 at 2009-06-01 12:32 PM | Reply

Hell be shipped off to Larned State Hospital for the Criminally insane for a shrink evaluation to determin if He is really in fact insane or not.

Larry

What about 9 and 1 day before birth when an innocent life is lost to a kleenex and hand lotion?

#37 | Posted by 726

horrible attempt at deflection.

Answer the first question.

"And I'll bet you wonder why one one takes you seriously on other matters either, don't you?

#17 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-01 10:57 AM"

One one? Is that one more than takes Goatman seriously.

?

Answer the first question.

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2009-06-01 12:44 PM

Screw you.

It is a horrid question to ask. No ifs or buts. What the doctor did was not illegal. What the murderer did was terrorism.

If you don't like the law, fight to get it changed.

Problem is, all these "pro-life" assholes play the religious right up all the time that they will "protect" life an then do nothing about it. Why? They don't want to give up their meal ticket to keep the fools voting them back in.

The right will keep abortion legal because they would lose a big chunk of their votes if it were not an issue.

This guy does not speak for anyone but himself.

Put the broad brush down and step away.

No excuse for what this guy did. How many people would kill someone that was about to kill a 1 month old baby? How about 1 week old? How about 1 day old? I think most of us would. What about 1 second before birth, or 1 day? Some people have a hard time drawing a distinction between killing a baby 1 second is alright, but wait 30 more and then it is not alright.

#27 | Posted by freechoice at 2009-06-01 11:28 AM | Reply |

Your post boils down to thinly veiled support for this criminal. As far as I know, nobody supports abortion "a second before birth".

This guy does not speak for anyone but himself.

Read some of the posts here Muffy-he's well on his way to sainthood among the right.

"How I (and Other "Pro-Life" Leaders) Contributed to Dr. Tiller's Murder

My late father and I share the blame (with many others) for the murder of Dr. George Tiller the abortion doctor gunned down on Sunday. Until I got out of the religious right (in the mid-1980s) and repented of my former hate-filled rhetoric I was both a leader of the so-called pro-life movement and a part of a Republican Party hate machine masquerading as the moral conscience of America.

more

Murphy wails against being "painted with a broad brush" when Murphy herself has joined in choruses decrying all of "the left" for the actions of one. Kansas Killer Roeder is at the very least a product of right-wing idiocies. All wavers of doctored nine-foot bloody fetus photos share equally in his creation, and in the death of a humane physician. herm

#50 | Posted by herm

" Tiller began the abortion by injecting a poisonous syringe through the pregnant teenager's uterus and into the upper left side of the unborn baby's face. He then instructed the teenager to return the next day for the completion of the abortion.

To everyone's dismay, the baby did not die during the intervening hours. After the teenager began to complain of serious abdominal pains, her parents rushed her to a local hospital where the baby was eventually bornalive. The delivery room staff felt that life-support would be futile, so they wrapped the baby in a bassinet without attendance. The teenager and her parents quickly left the scene.

Even without medical care, the baby remained alive. After many hours had passed, the delivery room staff decided to give her treatment. Miraculously, she managed to survive through the entire ordeal. "Sarah", as her adoptive parents later named her, lived until the age of 5, when she succumbed to the developmental harm done to her body during the abortion. The KCl solution that had been injected into the side of her face had left her permanently blind and brain damaged.

Prior to the abortion, Sarah was a perfectly normal baby. The relevant medical records indicate that she had no disabilities or deformities. If Tiller hadn't attempted to poison her, she would be a healthy 9 year old girl with an entire life ahead of her. Instead, she is in a grave."

humane, yeah...

How anyone can even start to make excuse, or try to "explain" the behavior of Roeder is beyond me. There is no possible acceptable or reasonable or even sane justification for committing premeditated murder in this fashion. It was an act of pure political and ideologic vengeance. (Dick Cheney better pray this type of retaliation doesn't become deemed acceptable.)

who? The abortion lovers? I'm sure they will.

Speaking for myself, no, life in prison is fine.

#8 | Posted by eberly

Hey, if we are all 'Baby Killers', the you are ALL doctor killers.

Can't have it both ways bitches.

Care to change your tune?

Am I the only one that found it odd that an abortion doctor actually goes to church??

Church is for every one who believes in Christ. Not just those people who believe in Christ the same way you do.

Am I the only one that found it odd that an abortion doctor actually goes to church??

#54 | Posted by Beachbuzz

Yep.

Most of us have open minds.

Beachbuz - now that you mention, you are right, that is odd. But honestly, I wish Roeder had spent his time and energy protecting children that being abused AFTER they are born. If you ever google baby murder in the news section, its depressing. Lots of little kids out there that need to be saved ... and they need to be saved now. Dont expect the government to do it.

"Just a good ol' boy exercising his Second Amendment rights." #1 | Posted by herm

Murder is NOT exercising his Second Amendment rights.

"this guy has a number of ideological soulmates who post here regularly. herm"

Still jumping to conclusions and stating them as fact like a good liberal.

Some comedian, I forget who, said abortion doctors take the biggest gamble in regards to an afterlife because either they did none, or they did 10k and that really throws the curve off because suddenly Ted Bundy was not really that prolific.

Hmm...it was better the way he said it I think.

Not just those people who believe in Christ the same way you do.

And what way is that?

Lyrics from an old Charlie Daniels song called 'Uneasy Rider'. About a guy who has car troubles and stops at "kind of a red-neck lookin joint called the Dew Drop Inn"

"So I laid a dollar on the bar and headed for the door

Just when I thought I'd get outta there with my skin
These 3 big dudes come strollin in
With one old drunk chick and some fella with green teeth

Now the last thing I wanted was to get into a fight
In Jackson Mississippi on a Saturday night
Especially when there was three of them and only one of me"

Great old song from the 70's. Not exactly the 'green toothed redneck' quote but close enough.

"Roeder also was a subscriber to Prayer and Action News, a magazine that advocated the justifiable homicide position," #34 | Posted by northguy3

For all we know he could be a left wing nut posing as a religious nut thus killing 2 birds with one stone.

Your post boils down to thinly veiled support for this criminal. As far as I know, nobody supports abortion "a second before birth".

#47 | Posted by panchovilla
Maybe you don't know who tiller was, and what a partial birth abortion is??

Am I the only one that found it odd that an abortion doctor actually goes to church??

#54 | Posted by Beachbuzz

Only an idiot would believe that providing abortions was his only practice and his first choice.

After I had been there for a little while, patients in the practice began to ask me if I was going to do abortions like my father did. I was outraged. Why would these nice people say that he was a scumbag kind of a physician?

I began to ask some of these women. And I found out that in 1945, '46, or '47, a young woman for whom Dad had already delivered two babies came to him pregnant again right away, and she said something to the effect that, "I can't take it, can you help me?" That is apparently the way you asked for an abortion from your regular doctor before abortion was legal. Dad said, "No. Big families are in vogue, by the time the baby gets here, everything will be all right." She had a non-healthcare provider abortion and came back and died.

NO to abortion.

NO to welfare.

NO to government sponsored child-care.

NO to anything that actually HELPS people with their LIVES once they are actually PEOPLE.

Pro-Life my ass. You people are beyond the pale.

The right wing loves the fetus, but hates the baby- Randi Rhodes

The right wing loves the fetus, but hates the baby- Randi Rhodes

Posted by kanrei at 2009-06-01 03:23 PM | Reply

A fucking men. They care about the unborn up until it gets shot out of the birthing shute but after that they say no to welfare. Bunch of G-d damned hypocrites if I do say so Myself.

Larry

The right will keep abortion legal because they would lose a big chunk of their votes if it were not an issue.

Ya Think? Perhaps it is equal to the hostility "manufactured" by the left to keep the sheep on their side of the fence as well?

Many people who support a woman's right to choose vote for people who do not share those views.

The same cannot be said the other way around.

Sorry Eb, this 'issue' only hooks the sheep on the right. Like you for instance.

bahahahahahahahah

NO to abortion.

NO to welfare.

NO to government sponsored child-care.

NO to anything that actually HELPS people with their LIVES once they are actually PEOPLE.

Pro-Life my ass. You people are beyond the pale.

#65 | Posted by Kreator
That is the dumbest damn statment. No to goverment running those programs. Because govt sucks (prove me wrong). Yes to charity, yes to helping people individually, yes to choosing how and to who your charity and help is used. No to forced help, no to politicians buying votes with our money, no to public abuse, no to slavery called taxes that you have no choice in. It is the difference between choice/freedom and force/slavery. You are pro - no choice except when it involves killing a baby. BTW the guy that killed the doctor had no right to do what he did.

Sorry Eb, this 'issue' only hooks the sheep on the right. Like you for instance.

I have never voted against someone because they are pro-choice.

In turn, I voted for Obama and several other dems for reasons that have nothing to do with abortion. I never vote based on an abortion view.

Why would I? Oh, I forget who I am talking to.

This issue grabs idiots like you on the left every election cycle because you believe abortion rights are threatened.

that makes you part of the flock Manypaths.

Anything else you want to accuse me of today?

I'm still awed by Nancy dragging out some hugely atypical (to say the very least) procedure, bungled beyond belief, undocumented and probably disseminated in her "church," and using this to tar the broad spectrum of reproductive rights. I hugely doubt that her parable ever took place, but even if it did, it simply will not make the phenomenon of reproductive rights in medically safe surroundings go away, herm

Strawmen abound on this thread.

Opposing welfare is NOT tatamount to opposing the support of a growing child - welfare has wreaked havoc on the traditional family unit. It has driven dad out of the home with tremendous force and with horrific consequences.

The left is a wierd group. They proclaim to love "nuance" and "shades of gray", but when it comes to their orthodoxies all of that goes out the window - you either favor lefty causes or you abjectly hate whomever lefty causes are purporting to help. Unintended consequences don't exist. Contrarian statistics don't exist. Negative tradeoffs don't exist.

What is so funny is that it's the left that claims the right is so black-and-white; yet the left frequently takes a black-and-white approach without even realizing it. The irony is funny to observe, but it's also a bit tragic.

Abortion today is tomorrow's Slavery issue.

Right or wrong...

...in the near future, abortionists will be vilified and condemned in the same way we vilify and condemn yesteryear's slave masters.

Irrefutable scientific evidence of sentient awareness and intelligence of the human fetus will cause this to happen.

"in the near future, abortionists will be vilified ..." Nonsense, Bendover. In the very near future terminated pregnancies will be as routine and unjudged as vasectomies are today. herm

Herm,

You do your cause a tremendous discredit.

Equating an abortion with an apendectomy is repugnant.

Your position is partly predicated upon de-humanizing a developing life. I am confident that you will find that your views turn-off moderate pro-choicers (I am actually pro-choice, albeit barely).

I'd be interested to hear some other pro-choicers take on Herm's view...

Is aborting a fetus tatamount to an appendictomy?

Are we simply dealing with cancerous tissue that needs to be removed?

Lisa?
Larry?
Rogue?
Corky?
Spud?
Danforth?
Anyone?
Bueller?

#74 and #75
If you combine the 2 then that would be a very sad state. Science proves Sentient awareness, but terminated fetus being routine is a very bad direction, but one I am sure herm and lary et all are will to travel...

"in the near future, abortionists will be vilified ..." Nonsense, Bendover. In the very near future terminated pregnancies will be as routine and unjudged as vasectomies are today. herm

#75 | Posted by herm

You can hope all you want hermaphroditus.

You're an abortionist and history is going to suck for you.

hermaphroditus, want to know stands in the way of killing sentient, aware, and intelligent human life?

The U.S. Constitution.

more religous fruit, proving that those apples are poisonous.....

LM

#22 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel at 2009-06-01 11:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

Nowhere near as poisonous or dangerous as the kneejerk broad-brushing of this sort. Shame on you.

I hope this Dr. is having a good time in hell.

Chickenfucker,

I hope you enjoy your stay, too, when the time comes.

What we obviously need now is a few women to volunteer to die because they couldn't get late term medical abortions. It's really not much to ask, and it might rebut some of that "baby killing" bullshit going around. I seriously suggest that Murphy, Nancy, Lisa and the other anti-women women volunteer. herm

"It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the 'lawlessness' which is spoken of in the Bible,"

*HE* was the lawless one. I hate that kind of lawlessness.

There's tens of millions of loving compassionate pro-lifers that put their beliefs into action including financial and material assistance for every ONE like that guy.

Sorry, herm.

Most of us use faith, prayer and the free exchange of ideas (such as posting here) to see the nation change, and for abortions (legal AND illega) to stop.

Live long and prosper, Kirk. I've been saying the same thing.

I'd like to see the Headline read:

Mothers of Murdered Children identify Tiller as the Killer. :-)

I'd like to see the Headline read:

Mothers of Murdered Children identify Tiller as the Killer. :-)

#85 | Posted by humanear

Actually, by your reasoning, those mothers suffer the same fate as Tiller, since they were complicit in the action. Right?

What reasoning? I was making a tounge in cheek comment.

But they'll all see each other in Hell, I'm sure. :-)

they'll all see each other in Hell, I'm sure. :-)

#87 | Posted by humanear at 2009-06-02 11:03 AM | Reply | FLAG: IRONIC

Declaring specific pe1ople going to hell followed by a smiley--classic.

Thanks. I do what I can.

xtians are just as evil as muslims.

#26 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009-06-01 11:27 AM | Reply

Please educate us with details, facts, figures, supporting data.

btw, how many abortions exactly did you pay for.
If you can't answer both in the time you have, please just answer the first.

Maybe I can repent of my "evil" if you elucidate me with specifics.

xtians are just as evil as muslims.

I don't think that either christans or muslims are evil.

Now RADICAL Christians and muslims, they may be just as evil. But with that said, I'm not sure I recall any radical Christians beheading anyone lately.

if you elucidate me

Wow, you must be smarter than most since you use big words.

Now RADICAL Christians and muslims, they may be just as evil. But with that said, I'm not sure I recall any radical Christians beheading anyone lately.

#91 | Posted by humanear

Shot or beheaded the end result is the same

Herm,
WHAT EXACTLY do you think happens in an abortion?

You are soo quick to say that everyone who puts up facts, anecdotes, etc are wrong, yet you never detail what the truth IS.

Please educate us on the nuts and bolts of abortions. If you know what the truth is, refutation of our "falsehoods" should be easy.

Or do you neither know or care about what abortionists do inside those women's bodies you escorted?

btw, how many abortions exactly did you pay for.
If you can't answer both in the time you have, please just answer the first.

Maybe I can repent of my "evil" if you elucidate me with specifics.

#90 | Posted by kirk

I have paid for 3 abortions. All financially necessary. Kirk we hear about gay bashing and other forms of extremism by xtians all the time.

Kirk your religion is based on lies and fables. Prove God exists or stfu.

Shot or beheaded the end result is the same

True. Very true. And in both cases the perpetrators should be dealt with severely and quickly.

And in the case of Tiller the Killer, I think that the person that shot him should be, well, aborted. :-)

Kirk your religion is based on
lies and fables. Prove God exists
or stfu.

D-bag, why don't you prove that God >>doesn't

exist.

nanc,
please provide sources for stuff like you posted.

Ok God will strike you down in 10 seconds if he exists,
10
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Ok I win. You are still here. He does not exist.

#101 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009-06-02 12:04 PM

Actually, that proves nothing because G-d stopped taking your calls years ago. You go straight to voicemail.

I like to say that's clever but... AAHHHHH...!

He's dead now,

Signed- God.

The Jehovah Contract

Look up historical evidence on the resurrection of Jesus.

It's there.

And just like an accredited college, internet citation are not acceptable in your research.

YOU made the allegation that I questioned first.
YOU should feel compelled to prove that Christians (as well as Muslims) are evil.

If you can't defend your own statement, maybe YOU should stfu.

Look up historical evidence on the resurrection of Jesus.

It's there.

Yea....and it says it didn't happen. Nobody has ever risen from the dead. My Rabbi told me it is easy to tell if Jesus was the Messiah or not: is your great-great-grandmother standing next to you? If the answer is "no," then the Messiah has not returned. If the Messiah has not yet returned, then Jesus was not the Messiah.

Kirk we hear about gay bashing and other forms of extremism by xtians all the time.

#95 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009-06-02 11:56 AM | Reply |

THAT'S IT!

Gay-bashing? Do you mean actually Christians assaulting homosexuals?
Should be easy enough to find examples of...

WHAT other forms of extremism?
and how are they evil?

Come on, you have a great opportunity here and I'm asking for it!

#105 | Posted by kirk at 2009-06-02 12:08 PM | Reply | Flag: bullshit

" Do you mean actually Christians assaulting homosexuals?
Should be easy enough to find examples of..."

Current law is one example.

The Christian Republicans wanting to codify gays as permanent second-class citizens is another.

Need more?

I think he should be waterboarded, I also think that the leaders of the terrorist group "Operation Rescue" should be taken into custody and waterboarded. This is a radical group that is at war with the United States of America, innocent lives are at stake. It's the only way to foil the next attack.

Look up historical evidence on the resurrection of Jesus.

It's there.

unbelievable bullshit! There you go waving your God like a flag. Exactly where is that "historical" evidence? The Bible? The Bible is NOT a history book.

xtians are just as evil as muslims.

#26 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009-06-01 11:27 AM | Reply

Please educate us with details, facts, figures, supporting data.

Christians don't bother to kill individuals so much as they do masses of humans. And they do it in a more "humane" way. With BOMBS!

Current law is one example.The Christian Republicans wanting to codify gays as permanent second-class citizens is another. Need more?#109 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-06-02 12:20 PM | Reply

So THAT is the proof of "gay-bashing" and "Christians are as evi as Muslims"?

That's gay-bashing?!?! Christians who say that homosexuals can't have marriage certificates and benefits?

THAT is the proof that Christians are evil?

Looks like rastaninja gave up...

"That's gay-bashing?!?"

Making them second-class citizens under the law? Absolutely YES.

"THAT is the proof that Christians are evil?"

It's proof some haven't learned the lessons of their own Book. Things they would never want "done unto them", they willingly do unto others, simultaneously creating a 'least of their brethren' and shitting on them.

Donnerboy,

Your proof that "Christians are as evil as Muslims" is what the US has done in the Iraq war?

You atheists, secular humanists and antichrist types certaonly can't come up with shit for proof of your antireligious points.

At least you're trying....usually these discussions just result in insults and name-calling.