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Sunday, May 31, 2009

A U.S. weapons lab on Friday pulled back the curtain on a super laser with the power to burn as hot as a star. The National Ignition Facility's main purpose is to serve as a tool for gauging the reliability and safety of the US nuclear weapons arsenal but scientists say it could deliver breakthroughs in safe fusion power. "We have invented the world's largest laser system," actor-turned-governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said during a dedication ceremony at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. "We can create the stars right here on earth."

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Sorry, didn't see you had put this up before mine. I'll ask Rcade to delete my entry.

Is Fusion power eminent? Could we be energy independent in a decade?

RCADE --

Could you please delete this userblog entry I put up?

This same story had been put up an hour earlier and I didn't notice it. No sense in wasting space with a duplication. Thanks.

This is the one sentence which caught my eye and had enticed me into putting up my article --

A US weapons lab on Friday pulled back the curtain on a super laser with the power to burn as hot as a star.

Is is possible to burn as hot as a star?

How hot does a star burn?

messed up the bold -- time for cup of coffee #2

If so-WAAAAYYYYY Kewl!
If the Oil Cos don't suppress it-we really COULD see and end to some of this BS.

'Bout Damn Time!

Now we just need some ill-tempered, mutated sea bass.

Re my post #3 on here --

I had put up this very same article this morning on a userblog thread of my own. But only afterwards did I notice this same article had already been put up an hour earlier by Goatman. (I usually check for any duplicates but did it pre-my first cup of coffee.)

So I "thought" I had gone back over to my own userblog thread and left this following post for Rcade

RCADE --

Could you please delete this userblog entry I put up?

This same story had been put up an hour earlier and I didn't notice it. No sense in wasting space with a duplication. Thanks.

#3 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-05-31 09:52 AM


It now looks like I idiotically wrote my post on this thread instead of over on my own userblog thread -- the one I wanted Rcade to delete. Don't know how that happened but certainly wasn't trying to tell Rcade by my post to delete Goatman's thread.

(Or maybe Rcade had transferred my single post on my thread over to this one? Or maybe I really am just a bonehead?)

Damn. I want one of those lasers.

Excellent! This is exactly what this country needs, not only to wean ourselves off the teat of oil, but also in terms of innovation - we've been sorely lacking in this department for the last few decades, and/or have let others develop our breakthroughs.

Time for America to lead the way once again.

Entirely new industries and technologies are likely to follow, unless we drop the ball...

Super Laser?

Energy Gain?

Damn, if this means wot it looks like it could mean then this might be a very good thing indeed.

Still way too early to see if the promise implied by clean fusion power will pan out but definitely worth keeping an eye on.

Be Well.

If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One!

~Time Bandits.

Be Well.

I sure hope this passes the smell test with the treehugger crowd.

If studies suggest the laser damages the hearing, and therefore a loss of hunting ability, of the extremely rare white-winged vampire bat, it will need to be outlawed right?

Can they point it towards Iran?

Can they point it towards Iran?

#14 | Posted by mysterytoy

You advocating the murder of millions?

Well a laser is a precision weapon so how about the presidential palace.

Just think once again those evil bastards working on weapons are going to destroy the world once again. Nothing good comes from those bastards, nothing I say...

Goat, I'd love to believe this is true. Do you know how much energy it takes to produce hydrogen? From water or petroleum?

"In this house, we obey the Laws of Thermodynamics!"
--Homer Simpson

Well a laser is a precision weapon so how about the presidential palace.

#16 | Posted by mysterytoy

So you advocating the murder of a few dozen.

And you base this on....?

And Iran and the rest of the Islamic world will then be our Best Buddies.

Golly!

Why stop there.

We can focus this "precision weapon" on North Korea. Move it over to Myanmar. Then Venezuela. Sweep northern Afghanistan. Bejing, Moscow maybe? Get rid of all the baddies.

Do you know how much energy it takes to produce hydrogen?

Not as much as you get back from burning it, obviously. But the energy it takes to separate deuterium (an isotope of hydrogen) from water is miniscule compared to the energy obtained by fusing it.

Do you know how much energy it takes to produce hydrogen?

You can free hydrogen with a bucket of water and a battery charger. I have a vat I use to remove the salt from old cannon balls and other iron things that have been in the ocean for a long time. You have to do it in the open because of the possibility of explosion.

BTW

This turkey is an immense boondoggle, but a lot of fun;
And it does actually work, unlike mortgage-backed securities.

There is a perfectly good fusion reactor only 93 million miles away.

"Do you know how much energy it takes to produce hydrogen? "

From scratch?

Start with three quarks and an electron ...

From scratch?

ff

"ff"

Posted by goatman at 2009-05-31 08:12 PM

www.hep.utexas.edu

Happens all the time.

If studies suggest the laser damages the hearing, and therefore a loss of hunting ability, of the extremely rare white-winged vampire bat, it will need to be outlawed right?

Why should it?

Nobody gives a fuck wot happens to Cheney's hearing.

Plus his hunting ability has been lost fer a while now.

Sorry, wot's that?

Not Cheney?

Well, when you sed "white winged vampire bat" Spud just assumed you were talking about Dickless.

Nvm.

Be Well.

What about the live demonstration Stan Meyer did on 60 Minutes before he was murdered?

"We have invented the world's largest laser system," actor-turned-governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said during a dedication ceremony attended by thousands including state and national officials.


The Governator went on to add "much like the Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt range".

Start with three quarks and an electron ...

LOL

Now tell me how you get your three quarks all by themselves in the beginning...

The Governator went on to add "much like the Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt range".

dunh-dunh da dunh-dunh

A fusion reaction triggered by the super laser hitting hydrogen atoms will produce more energy than was required to prompt "ignition," according to NIF director Edward Moses.

I guess cheep energy is here at last. Lets start tearing down all of our electrical generating facilitles. I knew BHO was the savior.

Very cool. a laser that can help create energy. This might be the holy grail of energy. Goodbye oil. Think of the future.

Next week we will read. Laser bought by Exxon and will never be heard from again. Big oil sucks! But this could end the oil problem and the middle east.

Many of you might not realize this, but energy is money--and I'm not talking empty dollars but real wealth. Just look at your utility bill and every KW-hour BTU is a measure of work which has a value.

If we figure out a fusion system that's fairly efficient then we would basically have infinite wealth, or at least a much, much higher level of wealth than when we had cheap oil.

We should be investing HUGELY in fusion and not just the Tokamak variety but many other "non-approved" types of fusion.

Start with three quarks and an electron ...

K, Three Quarks, an Electron and a Rabbi walk into a bar.

Bartender sez "Wot is this? Some kind of Joke?!"

* bows *

Be Well.

/Spud's a big fan of subatomics and theoretical physics and thus is getting a real charge out of this thread...

How hot does a star burn?

#4 | Posted by CalifChris

A gillion gazillion degrees

- Carl Sagen

Different kinds of stars burn at different temperatures.

"Non-degenerate stars have a simple structure. The core is the hottest and most dense region of a star. As one moves away from the star's center, both the density and the temperature of the star drop, until one reaches the star's photosphere, where the star's radiation freely escapes into space. The core of the Sun, for instance, is about 15 million degrees, while the surface temperature is effectively 5778."

isn't this what Doc Oc does in spiderman?

???

Or does he use magnets. hmmmm

Start with three quarks and an electron ...

A quark walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "Gimme a beer".

Bartender says, "Sure. That'll be ten dollars. You know, we don't get many quarks in here".

Quark says "At ten bucks a beer, it's no wonder".

Yeah right....this will replace oil!

Every future car will have its own superlaser under the hood to produce a fusion energymobile! Oh happy day. I can't wait!

Until then, I guess I'll just have to rely on that giant windmill mounted to the roof of my car. You know...the one with 16 foot blades? Gets me great mileage....as long as the car is moving the blades spin! Free energy!!!!

#40

Nothing will beat oil, ever, right Theo?

But I think this is all fake because the righties here have been telling us the government is too incompetent to do anything right.

Is there anything you won't put a political spin on, NG3? Nothing could be more apolitical than this laser thing. Yet here you are with your usual right-bashing.

Get a grip, dude. Get a life.

Fuck

Nothing will beat oil, ever, right Theo?

#41 | Posted by Scrumplet

Maybe! But I doubt anything will be able to beat back the irrational hatred of Big Oil. Lib-hatred and irrationality is so great they'd acutally believe it possible to put a windmill on a car to power it, than rely on Exxon for energy.

Goatman I found a sweet new crib in Laredo. It has all the luxuries you could ever imagine. Walmart is within walking distance.

I wonder if Laslo Hollyfeld had anything to do with this. The real question is, will Prof. Jerry Hathaway's house be filled with popcorn soon?

Great news. Maybe one day I can use the laser to more quickly start a fire in my fireplace. I'm always misplacing the lighter.

Is there anything you won't put a political spin on, NG3? Nothing could be more apolitical than this laser thing. Yet here you are with your usual right-bashing.

Get a grip, dude. Get a life.

Fuck

#43 | Posted by goatman at 2009-06-01 11:37 AM

I was thinking the same thing actually. You always here how the government can't run anything from 'righties', that is except for really important stuff like the Department of Energy, Defense, the police, fire etc.

Walmart is within walking distance.

#45 | Posted by rastaninja

Coming from the guy who hates rednecks. LOL!

Speaking of people who can't avoid spinning something politically, what the hell is up with Sniper? Dude, nowhere in the article was President Obama even mentioned. Nor did anyone here offer any praise in his direction. Yeesh. Need coffee? Or just a kick in the ass?

Do you know how much energy it takes to produce hydrogen?

Not as much as you get back from burning it, obviously.

Goat, you're saying producing hydrogen is more than 100% efficient? I hope they don't let you use pointy tools out there...

Very cool. a laser that can help create energy. This might be the holy grail of energy. Goodbye oil. Think of the future.

#33 | Posted by Unclesam

You are going to have WHAT power your car? A laser?

We could tell the middle east to shove it now if we would get rid of the enviromentalists that are blocking our recovery of our own oil.

Goat, you're saying producing hydrogen is more than 100% efficient?

Yes, that is what I said, but clearly I misspoke. Thanks for catching the mistake. I do indeed understand the laws of thermodynamics.

Goat-no problem, you were probably channelling dubya.

Yeah, I know. But I just said it to yank your chain.

I knew BHO was the savior.

#32 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-05-31 09:49 PM

Anything you'd like to say to Sniper about getting a life, Goat?

Anything you'd like to say to Sniper about getting a life, Goat?

Yea. Get a life, sniper. Happy now ng3?

Just think once again those evil bastards working on weapons are going to destroy the world once again. Nothing good comes from those bastards, nothing I say...

#17 | Posted by freechoice

Stupid fucking perverse asshole. If governments invested as much in PEACE as they do in WAR, they'd develop the same beneficial technologies and, no war. But, you keep stroking that hard-on, boy, and just wait, somebody'll get blowed up real soon, so you have something ejaculate to.

Happy as a Republican in a barrel of pork, Goat.

Happy as a Republican in a barrel of pork, Goat.

Not quite as happy as a democrat in a barrel of pork, though, huh? What's wrong? What could your experience perfect?

Happy as a politician in a barrel of pork, Goat?

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