"If we hear from the Americans they are not capable of supporting us . . .

Translation: If you guys don't make maliki pay us the Bushbribes we were promised and protect our suicide bombing asses from the shia and kurds who hate us, we're gonna get saudialquedia to send reinforcements.

I said there would be blood in the streets after the shia (err patriotic Iraqi military and security forces)take over the cities.

What a tiresome group of people.

#2

Trudat. Let's bring our men and women home ASAP.

"No pay, no play." - Sunni Loony

We should be protecting all Iraqis from outside threats.

We should let them kill one another all that they want.

We protect them from military threats. They police themselves.

What a tiresome group of people.

#2 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-05-26 11:25 AM | Reply |

Guess you should have left good enough alone. Do I need to remind you that the disastrous scenario of the past 5 years (and probably the next 10) had been described in minute detail to the WH BEFORE the invasion?

10 print "We're going."
20 print "We're staying."
30 print "No, we're going."
40 print "No, we're staying."
50 goto 10
60 end

Sounds like BHO is going to have a problem on HIS hands.

Sounds like BHO is going to have a problem on HIS hands.

#8 | Posted by Sniper

Actually, it sounds like Iraq is going to have the problem.

"Sunni insurgents who laid down their arms will return to the fight if they are punished after the U.S. withdraws its troops"

And we aren't going to care if the door does hit us on the way out. Enjoy your country. The guy you may be looking for now lives in Texas. I hear you can catch up to him on his dog walks.

as i have said before obama will be tested and by and large he has brouht it on himself-because all his campaign rhetoric was seen to be as a softness by a lot of people in place like iran north korea-iraq ect ect
jasman

So much for the Major Combat Missions have been completed or something very close to that on May 01 2003. What utter and complete poppycock Dubya was is and ever shall be.

Larry

The Sunnis will again recapture power after the U.S. stops interfering in the process. It's just a matter of time.

There are one-third as many Sunnis as Shias, but class will tell.

We can pacify Iraq, but we chose to win hearts and minds rather than subdue a people and exact our due, including respect, obedience, and tribute, as conquerors.

You will notice that under the gentle prodding of Saddam Hussein, the Shia 60% of the population, and the Kurd 20% of the population, relatively quietly bore the yoke put on them by the Sunni 20% of the population.

It is the U.S. renunciation of effective tactics that has emboldened the Iraqis to oppose us. If we want to be successful conquerors, we need to be prepared to shed a little of their blood if they exhibit intransigence. Hussein provided us with a plan, but we in our unenlightened stupidity rejected proven methods, and tried to rewrite the playbook, unfortunately unsuccessfully since our premises were faulty.

We've created a mythology and elevated their religious bleatings as something to which we needed to subscribe. And we behaved as if somehow we violated their delicate sensibilities there would be onerous consquences for us.

Gosh, Hussein's sons and others went around raping women at will, and killing people brutally, and the response was "quiet," the aggrieved seeking to avoid similar treatment at any cost. It is our weakness that has jeopardized our mission, and made the Iraqis bold. A little uncertainty and convincing them that they need to please us or suffer badly would create a much more hospitable environment for us.

Larry,

Major combat operations were completed in 2003. Since then it's been clean-up and civil war prevention and insurrection. The typical BS that follows any war.

I know you're on here a lot - I read your stuff - and though we disagree on a lot I do see your point on some things. But once in a while you slip into a gap and start saying things that make no sense.

For example - by your difinition we are still at war with Japan and Germany due to the number of bases and troops we have there. In point of fact, the clean-up post combat operation phase in WWII lasted decades. Yes, major combat operations are over - it sounds to me like you don't really know what the term "Combat Operations" means....

Spiel

by your difinition we are still at war with Japan and Germany due to the number of bases and troops we have there. In point of fact, the clean-up post combat operation phase in WWII lasted decades.

Bullshit. There was no attack on Allied troops in either Japan or Germany following their government's surrender. Ther was certainly no threat of any such event in 1951, six years after the wars ended. There are American troops in the UK. Does that mean the Revolutionary war is still on?

The troops in Europe and Japan were there as a result of the fear of the godless commie hordes overrunning everybody post war. After a while, the troops were there because it's a great way to build officer's careers and keep the old military-industrial complex fat and happy.

It is our weakness that has jeopardized our mission, and made the Iraqis bold.

Fuck Johnson, why don't you just come out and say we should have gassed the Iraqis like your parents did the jews. The concentration camp jews met your "please us" attitude very well.

You are spitting on the grave of every Coalition KIA when you say they should have died simply so we could install another Saddam.

As for the shia and kurds being "quiet", maybe you forgot they both had risen up against Saddam. Remember the "no fly' zones you righties were so upset about Saddam ignoring?

respect, obedience, and tribute, as conquerors.

Johnson the Hun.

In a democratic Iraq people are free to kill whomever they want...

Get our soldiers the hell out of there!