sans totus?

Nanc--I forgot about that link--truly funny stuff..

Nickname:

Janet Napolitano: Bruno

As for Ajihad--what a continuing ass.

imadinnywhackjob may be just what obama needs!

There is really nothing to debate. The little camel jockey is just an idiot that would make a fool of himself in an uncontrolled debate. No one is going to out-debate an orater like Obama if there are no rules to the debate. Look what Obama did to McCain during a controlled debate.

The little camel jockey is just an idiot that would make a fool of himself...

You are right, but wouldn't it be fun to watch him pull the Persian version of a Kruschev? I.E., instead of pounding the dais with a shoe, start throwing them?

Why doesn't Amandapajamas challenge Rush to a debate.....oh, that's right, Iranians don't believe in homosexuals.

wouldn't it be fun to watch him pull the Persian version of a Kruschev?

Oh, he'd just launch into a tirade against Israel and then rail on Obama for not cutting them off... well he might start smacking himself on the head repeatedly until stroking out, but that would just be funny. Shoe-tossing is an Arab thing.

Why doesn't Amandapajamas challenge Rush to a debate...

Now that would be entertaining... but not as entertaining as a fight to the death... and that would border on pornographic for me.

the Iran guy has made HUGE "street cred" gains in the middle east standing up to the great satan USA

a UN debate would be win-win for him & lose-lose for Obama
just calling out Obama has put another notch on his turbin

No one is going to out-debate an orater like Obama if there are no rules to the debate. Look what Obama did to McCain during a controlled debate.
#5 | Posted by JoeLabey

also, there would be no way for the teleprompter to script the debate 'cause the Iran guy could & would say about anything

F*ck the spineless UN! Powerless group of back biters.

Amadickjob would have to take a shower first.

Obama will be wise not to bite....

Obama should take the challenge.

By the way, the libs made it seem like the whole world loves Obama so why are so many international figures trashing him? Oh I forgot, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan rage on. GITMO still open. Indefinite hold of some prisoners without trial still policy. Bush 44 now in office.

Why should Obama dirty His hands by Debating Ahmadinejad??

"why are so many international figures trashing him?"

Can you provide examples? And please do not include the ones that already turned out to be hoaxes.

obama could not win with the people Ahmadinejad is playin to-radical islam and north korea it would not be a fair fight it would be obama truth vs Ahmadinejad talkin
trash
jasman

Bush 44 now in office.

In a year or so, you may have the right to say this.

Until then, It's just as likely that Obama is trying to find the most practical way to clean up your buddy Bush's many messes.

You know whether Obama debates Him He will declare Himself the winner no matter what so why should Obama even give Him what He wants??

Larry

It won't do Ahmadinejad much good in a couple of weeks... unless the theocracy is able to stifle support for moderates. And they're trying. Not that it will make much of a difference as far as the chickenhawks and Israelis are concerned. Iran is not going to give up its nuclear technology.

Theocracy... such a distasteful word as it rolls off the tongue. Thank whatever powers that be that your life is not run by despotic religious fucks. And sacrifice a virgin or a goat or a goldfish or whatever the hell you want to whoever the hell you want to ward off the chance that Takitez leads a coup here...

Please - no debates!

We don't need to see Obama grovel, plead, bow & scrape.

We don't need to see Obama grovel, plead, bow & scrape.

Remember, you are talking about the POTUS, still the single most powerful man in the world.

Your comment says vastly more about you than it could ever say about him, no matter who occupies the office.

I doubt Obama will agree... at least to the forum Ahmadinejad wants. It would resemble a legitimate debate in the way that Fox News resembels legitimate journalism.

Ahmadinejad would take the opportunity to launch into a rambling tirade about US-Israeli relations, the US nuclear arsenal, or any of a dozen other less-related issues.

Imagine an anti-Semitic Johnson speaking in Farsi if you are in need of a mental image.

they believe in homosexuals. it just doesn't happen in their country!! thats an american thing.

a word of advice to everyone.....people everywhere, they all want the same things. we have our biases, but we all want the same things. all of us, we are not so different.

This guy is a moron that doesn't deserve Obama's time. what do they have to debate? It's not like he is going to convince Obama to change his foreign policy. He certainly isn't going to convince Obama he can be trusted with Nukes.

oh man, i would love to see Rush try to moderate that one. maybe it'd be an informative experience for him, really, to see how much he actually agrees with ahmadinejad on so many things. Informative for his audience too.
all musings aside, this reeks of political posturing by iran's president, having nothing to do with obama nor what "issues" they might debate (is israel's right to exist really an issue?). it's more (if not all) about ahmadinejad giving his opponents something to cry about, and the masses of iran a reason to vote for him, like it will actually happen.
either way ahmadinejad wins. it sucks, but it's true. if obama refuses (which he probably should) ahmadinejad gets to say that it was out of fear of his self-perceived brilliance or whatever, but if obama accepts then ahmadinejad will just railroad the whole debate/conversation. he watches o'reilly, he knows how it's done!
admittedly, i'd love to see a debate between them, in the hopes that obama would trounce him. whether or not that would actually happen is entirely speculative.
HOWEVER: anyone who would want obama to fail in that proposed debate is 100% unpatriotic.
there i said it.

Debates,
William Buckley Jr many years ago would have a debate show on the odd Sunday on PBS,He was so good that he could debate that the sky was green,and he'd win.

If the debate happens, and the audience agrees with a point made by Ahmadinejad, will the audience have to shoot guns in the air and do the "Arab" yell - "alalalalalalalalala"? Not trying to be arse, just curious.

Why do the enemies of freedom keep testing and poking at BHO?
What is it they see in him that the majority of voting American's do not?
In this inherently violent and dangerous planet, the US is still dominant and feared, aren't we?
Every species on earth lives and dies by the survival of the fittest, regardless of what the Utopian, Coombiyah singers dream.
The enemies of freedom are going to be reminded who the boss is, wont they?
I pray for my kid's sake they are.
Let the Alpha-Male showdown commence.
Who's with me on this?

Alpha male libertarian
is that what liberatarian means?
Is predatory capitalism OK.
We can kick everyones ass for the time being.Will it be that way for the future?
330 million people,We're a speck of the global population.we better learn to get along.

I love BHO,but are we the fittest?

Well, consider this...

We can kick everyones ass for the time being. Will it be that way for the future?

Ass kicking is as old as life it's self.
Can you think of any society ever formed that lost it's dominance by withering away or were they conquered?
The only countries ever conquered without bloodshed were the ones that just wanted to get along.

To believe getting along is the key to peace is to ignore the very nature of animals.

Fear is peace.
It's the way of human beings.
We obeyed our parents because we feared them.
We obey the law because we fear prison.
We obey the IRS because we fear audits.

You don't have to like it but you do have to understand it.

#30 | Posted by libertarian_gi

You're right,I agree,
But realism suggest that we can't be the strongest forever,logistics.Hell our highschool dropout rate will kill us.

Fear is peace Cold War

As long as the world's population continues to grow - there will never be peace. Countries will continue to fight - not for more land - but for economic superiority and the acquisition and protection of resources. Anyway, humans are not a peaceful species and as long as we are in charge, there will be no peace.

And I agree with that.

For those who a re still a bit fuzzy on the reality:

When we no longer fear our parents, they kick it up a notch and show us why we should fear them.
When that stops working, the parents loose control and the kids do what they want without fear.

For some people, the law is obeyed because they are good people.
For some, they need to be reminded of jail and that's enough for them.
For some, jail is an acceptable risk. For those, we kick it up a notch and give them jail and that sets them strait.
Some others, jail does not squelch them so we kick it up another notch and give them prison.
Some of those still act up and we kick it up another notch and give them solitary confinement.
But then there's still a few who will not be tamed. Some of those are put down.

When the US tells another country to behave a certain way, they do it out of fear.
When they no longer fear the US, they test missiles, nukes, build centrifuges and other acts of defiance.

So, does Poppa US kick it up a notch or do they loose control and let the kid country do what they want?
We know what the kid country wants to do with the toys it's playing with and we know it's not something we are willing to endure.
So what do you do?
Bring candy and a Disney movie?
Or take your belt off?

Ahmadinejad = I'm no fan but he is definitely "his own man"
Obama = the opposite. He needs a teleprompter to remember the proper dialogue that will pander and please the most poeple at the same time. Obama does not stand for ANYTHING, except trying to prove a black guy can be a good President.
Ahmadinejad would wipe up the floor with Obama.
This would cause an all-new low in morale in the USA and and all new diminishing of our standing in the world. You libs wanna talk about Bush - HAH!
Obama is never going to touch this , because as I said, all he knows is how to play a role.
I THINK WE can all agree it is time for Israel to bomb Iran into oblivion. the USA has shouldered a lot, and we need some assistance at this point, We still have the Taliban in Pakistan to take care of, plus N Korea. I am gonna say it out loud - GET out of Iraq completely. Send forces to Pakistan, send bombers to N Korea. Send planes and rockets to Israel so they can us them in Iran.
That is what Obama should say at a debate with Ahmadinejad.
He should come with the one sentence. Deliver it. and leave: "We are going to send forces to Pakistan, send bombers to N Korea. We are going to send planes and rockets to Israel so they can us them in Iran."

alfred e newman would out debate either of these pompous asses.

Just think not that long ago liberals were yelling that GW should debate Ahmadinejad and called him all sorts of nasty names for not doing it. Now that Barry is in charge all of a sudden the idea of a debate is unthinkable. So; what are liberals afraid of? That if Barry doesn't have a teleprompter in front of him he would forget his own name or where he was at? I say, just like the left did back then...let's get Barry to debate Ahmadinejad and settle it once and for all...that is unless Barry is a big pussy and afraid he'll lose.

That if Barry doesn't have a teleprompter in front of him he would forget his own name or where he was at?

Obama can talk in depth about almost any topic for an hour ... no teleprompter or notes required. Bush couldn't even keep "My Pet Goat" turned right side up.

You all act as though all President's don't read comments or speeches from teleprompters or typed text. President's words are carefully chosen.

This is about as silly as "Obama doesn't wear a jacket in the Oval Office". Well, until people posted pictures of Ronald Reagan and W himself doing the same.

Obama can talk in depth about almost any topic for an hour ... no teleprompter or notes required.

#37 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

AH Yes and who can forget those memorable moments:

" I bowl as bad as a stupid retard"

" those Pennsylvanian hillbillies that cling to their guns and religion"

"I don't want my daughters punished with a child"

Dude, it would take half of all cyberspace to list Bush's gaffes. Seriously, do you really believe Obama isn't the latest in a long line of Presidents who read off of teleprompters or typed prepared comments and speeches?

Why doesn't Amandapajamas challenge Rush to a debate.....oh, that's right, Iranians don't believe in homosexuals.

#7 | Posted by LetUsPrey

So Letuspray, I thought liberals were supposed to be sympathetic to the plight of gay people. Guess that must be until you can use it in a derogatory form huh?

Hmmmm....

Obama is steady at his all time low for his approval number

Obama is steady at an all time high for his dissapproval number.

This thing is bound to make a major break soon. And I don't think it's gonna go in the direction hoped for by the Obamites.

So Letuspray, I thought liberals were supposed to be sympathetic to the plight of gay people. Guess that must be until you can use it in a derogatory form huh?

#40 | Posted by mikemcdon321

Uhm, He was obviously being sarcastic about Ahmedinejad and his previous claim that "there are no gay people in Iran".

I thought liberals were supposed to be sympathetic to the plight of gay people.

And retards, don't forget retards.
(see the Leno show) Libs care about retards, unless prompterless Obama suddenly decides
"retards is funny "

Bush wished his Approval numbers were Obama's disapproval numbers.

Any President would give their eye teeth for consistent 60%+ approval.

Any President would give their eye teeth for consistent 60%+ approval.

#44 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

in the first 4.5 months?

No President has really HAD to give their eye teeth to be in that area of approval in the first 4.5 months

What you obama ass kissers need to worry about is he dropped dramatically since the inauguration - WHY? I'll tell you why, the HARD left that put him over the top in votes quickly realized he is just another lying politician. Further, he shows no sign of any support from moderates growing, he only shows signs of dissatisfaction growing with that segment

I predict 32% approval rating by Xmas. ( You got that Hans?)

RealClearPolitics has to include Rasmussen so Rushies have a talking point. Rasmussen's polls have been so far outside the box they're about to become as respected as today's GOP.

"he dropped dramatically since the inauguration"

You consider a decrease from 63.3% to 60.5% "dramatic"?

Now if you wanted to argue from the opposite side that his disapproval ratings have increased significantly, you would actually have a leg to stand on.

I predict 32% approval rating by Xmas. ( You got that Hans?)

Posted by 8roper at 2009-05-27 08:40 AM

If he's as horrible a President as Bush he'll deserve it, but since Bush is the worst since Hoover, that's very unlikely to happen.

So American..then Barry should suck it up and go debate him like you wanted GW to do. Should we start with the name calling now since Barry has shown no interest in the debate? I'm all for showing Barry the same kind of respect the left showed GW the past 8 years.

"and go debate him like you wanted GW to do."

I must have missed that day.

I gave Bush respect as President until he utterly betrayed it.

What a stupid talking point, MIKEMCDON

and you're saying that so many of the left showed him respect after the election? no..it's not a stupid talking point.

Let's get Barry out there to debate like the left wanted GW to do. What's he afraid of?

GALLUP:

27% disapproval. Wow, exactly the percentage of self identified Republicans. Go figure ...

So it seems the "I don't give a shit" vote has gone from ~20% to vanishingly small as they all switched to disapproval, while the approval group has been stable.

"Let's get Barry out there to debate like the left wanted GW to do."

You keep saying that, but I have no recollection of anyone calling for Bush to debate Ahmadinejad.

So could you provide us some substantiation for that claim?

then Barry should suck it up and go debate him like you wanted GW to do.
#49 | Posted by mikemcdon321

Are you drunk?

You keep saying that, but I have no recollection of anyone calling for Bush to debate Ahmadinejad.

Of course they didn't want Bush to debate him.

You have to be able to speak in complete sentences and pronounce the name of your opponent before you can have a "debate"...

Now if you wanted to argue from the opposite side that his disapproval ratings have increased significantly, you would actually have a leg to stand on.

#47 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Uh yes, I mentioned that :

Further, he shows no sign of any support from moderates growing, he only shows signs of dissatisfaction growing with that segment
-8roper

again - READING COMPREHENSION, SAR

a word of advice to everyone.....people everywhere, they all want the same things. we have our biases, but we all want the same things. all of us, we are not so different.

For the most part, this is true. The people who do not manage to cause massive problems for the rest of us.

Zat, I don't understand why the obama ball sniffers don't get it.

at the end of the day if your dissapproval number is growing more than your approval number you have a problem.

as ball sniffers jump off the bandwagon ( i.e. when tax cuts dissappear, when the inflation happens, etc., and they get a sudden lesson in economics.....) the approval number will go to somewhere below 40%

again - READING COMPREHENSION, SAR

#59 | Posted by 8roper

Hey, I'm not the one who made the idiot statement that his support has dropped dramatically since his inauguration. It hasn't even moved outside of the margin of error.

"I don't understand"

#61 | Posted by 8roper at 2009-05-27 09:23 AM | Reply | Flag: Got that part right.

8ROPER

All but the brainwashed FoxNews hounds know Obama's cleaning up a mountain of shit Bush left on the WH lawn.

It's not hard to find, look though sites like huffington, abcnews message boards.

again - READING COMPREHENSION, SAR

#59 | Posted by 8roper

Hey, I'm not the one who made the idiot statement that his support has dropped dramatically since his inauguration. It hasn't even moved outside of the margin of error.

#62 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Sure, SAR, keep thrashing wildly. It only buries the hook deeper in your mouth LOL!

2/15/09 RCP avg 66%
3/04 /09 ONLY 3 WEEKS LATER - RCP avg 59% and been there since

wha happened? You wanna try and say there was no SUDDEN DROP OFF OF SUPPORT???

You will only end up looking fooloish if you try and say otherwise

8ROPER

All but the brainwashed FoxNews hounds know Obama's cleaning up a mountain of shit Bush left on the WH lawn.

#64 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

I guess you have a good point there.
I have not heard that take on it before....it is interesting. Explains a lot.

I'll stick with Gallup - the most respected polling firm in the country - who use tried and true unbiased polling methods and speak to live people when polling.

Rasmussen is obviously an 'outlier' poll. The spread between Approve-Disapprove is consistently way off any other poll. Making robocalls any 4 year old can respond to isn't good polling technique by Rasmussen.

Gee, we're just crushed Obama has a 60% average approval rating with Rasmussen's BS polling included. (snark)

I have not heard that take on it before....it is interesting. Explains a lot.

#67 | Posted by 8roper

It's called a 'metaphor'.

2/15/09 RCP avg 66%
3/04 /09 ONLY 3 WEEKS LATER - RCP avg 59% and been there since

wha happened? You wanna try and say there was no SUDDEN DROP OFF OF SUPPORT???

You will only end up looking fooloish if you try and say otherwise

#66 | Posted by 8roper

You MIGHT want to look at your own link again. The spread between where he was at in January, and where he is at today is 2.8 percentage points.

YOUR statement was that his support has dropped "dramatically" since his inauguration.

You not only LOOK foolish - you ARE foolish.

YOUR statement was that his support has dropped "dramatically" since his inauguration.

oh so feb into march is not in the time period since his inauguration???

you are now going under water for the third time.

panic is setting in for you........

nice knowin ya.

#71 | Posted by 8roper

FF. Now finish cleaning the rest of the egg off your face.

I have not heard that take on it before....it is interesting. Explains a lot.

#67 | Posted by 8roper

It's called a 'metaphor'.

#69 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Is that a fact ?
I was certain Obammy was out on the lawn with a shovel.
Anyhow kudos to you fine citizen, you have made me realize that all of obamas election season lies and failures as POTUS are the fault of one GWB.
Thanks for clearing it up for me.

8ROPER

Dude, you're either a spoofer or a kid who should be cutting lawns or something.

He says he's Fredo C.

It's not hard to find, look though sites like huffington, abcnews message boards.
#65 | Posted by mikemcdon321

Adhmadinejad challenged Bush to a UN debate. But who, exactly, jumped on Bush for not taking the Iranian up on his offer?

Thanks, I'll wait.

The little camel jockey is just an idiot that would make a fool of himself in an uncontrolled debate. No one is going to out-debate an orater like Obama... -- #5 | Posted by JoeLabey

I disagree. Ahamdinejad is a crafty politician in the same way the Bush team was politically shrewd. His continued success depends on stoking tensions between the U.S. and Iran. He wants Obama denouncing Iran's nuclear ambitions in front of the Iranian electorate, and when the subject comes up, what else can Obama do?

I think that Tallahassee's Evangel Temple should debate Ahmenjihad. They speak in tongues every week, and it all sounds like the pig-arabic that he (Amahljabbar) speaks.

No one is going to out-debate an orater like Obama if there are no rules to the debate. Look what Obama did to McCain during a controlled debate.

#5 | Posted by JoeLabey at 2009-05-25 10:27 PM

right ya mean when he knew the questions before they were asked and someone wrote out the answer for him otherwise obama is a bumbling idiot..