here's the only argument you need.

Humans were made with an innate drive to reproduce. The drive to reproduce can reprogram you brain to elevate the need to ejaculate to an obssessive physical need (for guys at least). I think for women, it is more emotional than physical but both are over-powering in the extreme.

If humans are made to follow a rule and deny the body, those who have not drank ALL the kool-aide, will find other outlets for that sexual need (I.E. children, other male priests, parishoners, etc...).

The catholic church should drop the requirement and watch the number of priestly candidates skyrocket. At the same time, I believe, the incidents of pedophilia and homosexuality that marks todays catholic priests will plummet.

Besides, who would you rather take family advice from? A man that has a wife and children or someone who is supposed to know no carnality and therefore has no experience dealing with family problems?

Because of what I see as a flawed belief all ordained members ( or those essentially "oathed") the Brothers, Nuns and the very priesthood itself are required to act directly in opposition to the natural ways of animals. This is a policy doomed to failure from the get-go. The only person that is totally unable to see and understand this is the Pope himself. This proves and should demonstrate to the "faithful" that even the Pope is fallible.

The catholic church should drop the requirement and watch the number of priestly candidates skyrocket.

The last parish I was at had 1 priest and 4 deacons who are married with familes. They handle much of the load once carried by the priests.

The last parish I was at had 1 priest and 4 deacons who are married with familes. They handle much of the load once carried by the priests.

#3 | Posted by eberly

Say what? Oh wait, you are saying a catholic parish had one unmarried priest and 4 married deacons? right?

If that is so, that sounds ok. Do you think catholic priests should be allowed to marry?

what is your interpretations of the biblical reasoning behind it? Do you think if priests were allowed to marry, it would affect the religion in a negative way?

Say what? Oh wait, you are saying a catholic parish had one unmarried priest and 4 married deacons? right?

correct. It was a parish of about 2,000 families (approx 8,000 parishoners)

If that is so, that sounds ok. Do you think catholic priests should be allowed to marry?

Perhaps, but not necessarily for the problems stated here related to celibacy. The abuse etc...

what is your interpretations of the biblical reasoning behind it? Do you think if priests were allowed to marry, it would affect the religion in a negative way?

I don't know. Another wrench being thrown into this is allowing women to become priests (and taking a vow of celibacy as well)

The notion of letting priests marry has gotten attention in the church because of dwindling number of priests rather than the abuse issues but the church believes that priests should remain unmarried (and thus, celibate to be consistent with the rules of sex outside of marriage) so that they can devote everything they have to the church and not share that with a family.

It's not my problem whether the Church Of Rome opts to push celibacy or not.

What continues to astound me is that real live people who could lead useful existences continue to adhere to doctrines that recede further from reality each day.

I guess "it's how I was raised" trumps thinking for yourself any day. herm

What continues to astound me is that real live people who could lead useful existences continue to adhere to doctrines that recede further from reality each day

Going back years ago, many people were placed in the clergy as a family's "offering" to the church.

completely absurd. However, many of those people look back at their life in the clergy they have extremely positive things to say about the experience. No friggin way I could do it.

***Opposing views on mandatory cellibacy for priests ***

.........fuck that........

Some Eastern-rite Catholic priests are allowed to be married. Those who married before they became priets.

I might see reasons why priests needed to be celibate during the early days of the CC and during the Dark Ages. But I don't think any of those reasons apply now. And I do believe priests should be allowed to be married. In these times, priests need to be very involved, not just observing, in daily life for them to be able to interact with it and to counsel their parishioners.

"Do you think catholic priests should be allowed to marry?"

I suppose that's the Church's business, and the Church's decision. I think it's ridiculous, but I'm not Catholic.

"What is your interpretation of the biblical reasoning behind it?"

I honestly don't know what the reasoning is, Biblically speaking. My understanding is that there is precedent for it in some of Paul's letters, although I feel the precedent is only there if you want to see it that way. I also don't feel that something Paul wrote to Timothy should be the basis for anything at all. Then, again, I'm not Catholic.

"Do you think if priests were allowed to marry, it would affect the religion in a negative way?"

Nope. Don't see how it could, if the myriad Protestant denominations are any indication.

My overall understanding is that priests were not forbidden to marry until the First Lateran Council, in 1123. So, one has to ask, what had changed?

#8 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-05-22 03:55 PM | Reply

Sure. It's a lot of words, and many of them have more than one syllable.

It also requires thinking.

Easier for you to make profound, thoughtful arguments like "fuck that"

Apparently there are married Catholic priests....

Fuck the Catholic Church (not Catholics, mind you, just their religious heirarchy and its Fuhrer).

It's a pity Dan Brown's "illuminati" aren't really after them.

I'd check with Jeff before going off half-crocked.

It's a pity Dan Brown's "illuminati" aren't really after them.

#13 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-05-22 10:55 PM | Reply

It's a pity you can't read and comprehend two articles, and maybe make a thoughtful comment.

Just some bigoted, knee-jerk, hate-filled shit about Catholics. You're worse than Danni.

What an asshole

Several hundred years ago Catholic priests were allowed to marry.

The church found a problem, when the priests died they passed their money along to the family instead of the church. The church stopped the priests from marrying and guess what, the money they have collected over their life goes back to the church.

It's all about the money.

Priests should be allowed to marry.

SIMPLE

Vermin, are you some sort of defrocked priest or somthing?

It also requires thinking.
Easier for you to make profound, thoughtful arguments like "fuck that"
.........#11 | Posted by vernon

...... there was more profundity and deeper layers in my two word statement than you could fathom....

...sorry for giving you more than you can handle.......