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Thursday, May 21, 2009

Former Vice President Dick Cheney's defense Thursday of the Bush administration's policies for interrogating suspected terrorists contained omissions, exaggerations and misstatements, according to Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel of McClatchy Newspapers.

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FCK DCK CHNY

#1 | Posted by LetUsPrey

With an untreated Telephone pole....

Cheney is simply out to make himself happy before he keels over. No big deal.

Today was a thing of beauty. The contrast between the self-serving witless and intimidated Obama and the calm cool statesmanship of Vice President Dick Cheney was brutally clear.

It didn't help BHO that he changed his schedule to try to make a preemptive strike again Vice President Cheney; it only focused more attention on BHOs inadequacies.

It's no wonder that Cheney's popularity is rising, he is an adult and it's refreshing to hear from a grownup after hearing the boy Obama bleat on for a hundred days.

LOL

With an untreated Telephone pole....

#2 | Posted by frankf55

Actually, a treated one's worse.

-Cheney's popularity is rising

You mean it's back up above 13 percent?

roflmbfao!! Golly gee, we've missed the humor, Zuloser.

With an untreated Telephone pole....

#2 | Posted by frankf55 at 2009-05-21 10:46 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Today Cheney waterboarded Obama and the liberals are riled up....

Most Americans are Pro-Choice. Waterboarding Terrorists that is.

LOL

It's nice to see Cheney out of his secret bunker defending Cheney.

Zulu-
Did you conduct a poll when the Chi-coms tortured McCain?

Most Americans are Pro-Choice. Waterboarding Terrorists that is.

LOL

#9 | Posted by zulu at 2009-05-21 11:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

LOL.

Dick Cheney lied? Geez, he hasn't done that since the last time he opened his mouth.

Fortunately for him, the righties have an IQ comparable to Frank's telephone poll and a memory shorter than Zulu's penis.


No matter how many dozens of times Cheney says "911" in a CYA speech, he'll still be seen for what he is, the worst VP in anyone's memory, including Spiro Agnew, who was merely a tax cheat, not a warmonger willing to lie us into war.

The Emperor has no clothes, and he's finding it rather cold out.

... memory shorter than Zulu's penis.

How do you know the length of his penis? If you tell me it's none of my business, I'll understand.

'Did you conduct a poll when the Chi-coms tortured McCain?'

McCain's account of his torture was one of the first serious books I ever read. I remember one of the horrible things the Vietnamese would do to him was tie his hands behind his back and then lift him with a rope tied to his arms dislocating his shoulders.

I guess I was around 12 when I read that book.

His dad was an Admiral or something and he was offered the opportunity to leave but he wouldn't leave his friends behind. What a guy.

Instead of McCain we have that dimwitted community organizer wank.

What made you think the Chinese Communists would be involved in torturing McCain? The USSR fought a proxy war with the US in Vietnam, not the Chinese. You must be thinking of Korea.

Anyhow, you are a loser.

LOL

No matter how many dozens of times Cheney says "911" in a CYA speech...

25 times. Nothing like fear mongering.

Amazing speech for the breadth and depth of his hubris and lying.

'I might add that people who consistently distort the truth in this way are in no position to lecture anyone about "values."'

I agree, Dick.

www.politico.com

What a guy.

And what exactly was/is McCain's response to Gitmo and torture?

How do you know the length of his penis?

Mrs Zulu told me.

McCain's account of his torture was one of the first serious books I ever read.

Everything the commies did to McToast, the CIA did to prisoners. All of which, you righties insist, is not torture. Ergo, McToast was never tortured. As Daddy Rush pointed out, it's not torture if you don't die from it.


25 times

If he's ever convicted, perhaps he could be sentenced under his own rules, and be water boarded once for each time he's used the tragedy of 911 to justify his warmongering.

Mrs Zulu told me.

Could you not use a unit of measurement that the rest of us are familiar with? You and zulu are probablby the only ones on this blog who know the length of his. Or do you just like to reference the penis for some odd reason?

"This is no longer the UNITED STATES of America, that all changed when DEMOCRATS voted Barry into office and set the country on a path to socialism, and although I feel sorry for the dealer get used to it this is how communism works. "

Wow. Profoundly unaware of macroeconomics, history, and -- apparently -- definitions.

NG3

You seem to hold some ill will towards me, I'm delighted to know you are intimidated.

As for the object which seems to preoccupy your imagination, length depends on what Mrs Zulu is doing.

LOL

That's a pretty long list of misleading info Cheney spouted. I sure hope Murphy reads this article, since it refutes her claims:


So right and so sobering and with details Cheney gets this issue right.

#10 | Posted by MURPHY

And without a doubt the libs will attack Cheney instead of addressing the substance of what he is saying.

#15 | Posted by MURPHY

www.drudge.com

Although she was right about this:


There is more and this is a great speech--takes us back to what this is all about.

#6 | Posted by MURPHY

Here, let me help out.

Number of terrorist attacks in the USA since 9/11 under Bush/Cheney: 0.

Number of Barry flip flops, dangerous policy changes, kowtows to our enemies and lies: countless.

I'm done with my fact checking.

And all you people who are deluded into thinking that we are now "safer", check out the near disaster in NYC this week. Just as predicted, Barry's weakness and pandering has emboldened our enemies and it's only a matter of time before we start counting bodies again. And their blood will be on Barry's hands.

As for the object which seems to preoccupy your imagination, length depends on what Mrs Zulu is doing.

I've never figured out why there are so many people on the DR (ng3 being one) who concern themselves with the size of other people's penises. Am I the only one who finds this odd, or is it a normal part of human behaviour that I somehow never got exposed to?

And all you people who are deluded into thinking that we are now "safer", check out the near disaster in NYC this week. Just as predicted, Barry's weakness and pandering has emboldened our enemies and it's only a matter of time before we start counting bodies again. And their blood will be on Barry's hands.

Uh, you do know that "the near diaster in NYC this week" was an operation that was being planned for about a year?

I have to revise my "number of times Dick used 9/11" in his speech. I didn't count "nine-eleven" only 9/11 and September 11. The new count is 27. 27 times. And then there's this:

Nine-eleven caused everyone to take a serious second look at threats that had been gathering for a while, and enemies whose plans were getting bolder and more sophisticated.

You couldn't be bothered to take a serious FIRST look?

You, Dick, are responsible for 9/11.
You, Dick, are responsible for the Iraq war.
You, Dick, have cost us way too much.

You, Dick, are responsible for 9/11.
You, Dick, are responsible for the Iraq war.
You, Dick, have cost us way too much.

I agree with the last two, but how is he responsible for 9/11?

Gal Tuesday writes:

'And what exactly was/is McCain's response to Gitmo and torture?'

Using the search engine called Google (http://www.google.com) I was able to find the following article:

www.nytimes.com

McCain voted against a Senate Bill that would have banned waterboarding (Feb. 2008). Which raises the question of why it was necessary for the Senate to ban waterboarding if it was already illegal.

Anyway, McCain was always against waterboarding and if the dems weren't trying to use the issue as a political wedge . . .

It's funny Barry Obama won't call Cheney's bluff and release the memos Cheney has asked to have declassified.

But Barry can't because the waterboarding must have gotten results, and that would be politically inconvenient for Barry wouldn't it?

Anyhow, good luck on finding out things on the internet yourself.

LOL

I'm sure that rcade must have missed the following Politico article which takes note of some of 0bama's half-truths, falsehoods and whatnot on related issues. What's that he's only been Prez for 4 months? You know damn well he lies no matter how much you wanna ignore and/or gloss over his dishonesty. My money's on that by the time his term ends on 1/20/2013 even Cheney will look more honest to 0bama's supporters.

www.politico.com

I'm done with my fact checking.

That's obvious. Unfortunately, just because you refuse to fact check, the facts themselves won't change.

I agree with the last two, but how is he responsible for 9/11?

Because they refused to heed what they had been told. They didn't take the threat of Al Qaida seriously, as Dick said, until 9/11 forced them to take a serious second look at the threats that had been gathering for a while.

Stunning in what he admitted, whether intentional or not.

You, Dick, are responsible for 9/11.

No, that was pissed off fundies... or maybe some satanic space lizards from planet x...

Yav,

Still fighting the good fight I see.

Because they refused to heed what they had been told.

I'm sure they were told of hundreds of other plots that never came to fruition. The gvernment and CIA need people like you who can sift through the chaff and determine what is a real threat and what isn't,yav.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Dick Cheney and the entire rightwing of America are liars? Shocking.

"FCK DCK CHNY" #1 | Posted by LetUsPrey

I would like to quote someone here that rebutted a similar comment:

"That's a real solid argument you got there."

You wouldn't happen to know who that might be, do you?

Hint: www.drudge.com post #9

Dick Cheney and the entire rightwing of America are liars? Shocking.

can you name a politician who isn't liar?

I can't either. So why do you single out the rightwingers? I guess that's what shills do, isn't it?

How sad you fail to see the same flaws in your own party that you see in the other. The ability to do so is a good start on the quest for the truth.

Look inward and learn, m8

Obama is not a liar. Limbaugh/Hannity notwithstanding.

Obama is not a liar.

LOL

Nope. He is not a liar. And that drives you wingnuts fucking crazy.

Nope. He is not a liar.

LOL

What exactly is your definition of a liar? Mine is, "one who tells lies". Would you accept that?

At any rate, for the sake of argument, I'll say that you are right -- all right wingers are liars and Obama is not. Since there are far more left wingers than right wingers, there are far more left wing liars -- unless you can name a few million who aren't.

I stand by my #39 unless you can prove all right winger are liars as you say, or you can name millions (not one) left winger who isn't.

You broad brush people just make yourselves look ignorant every time you paint. Will you ever learn?

OK Goatman. I will acknowledge there are plenty of leftwing liars. But it is my honest perception that per capita the percentage of rightwing liars is much higher.


... memory shorter than Zulu's penis.


How do you know the length of his penis?

#15 | Posted by goatman at 2009-05-21 11:15 PM


he read your diary..

But it is my honest perception that per capita the percentage of rightwing liars is much higher.

Everyone is entitled to their perception. Mine is different than your's however. I can think of only one contempory politician who wasn't a liar, and that was Jimmy Carter.

So since there are more dems than reps, clearly my perception is that the left has many more liars.

What do you base your perception on? Do you honestly believe that there are not that many dems who lie? Really? Is this based on reality or the usual blind partisianship that usually motivates all you say and do?

It is based on the past eight years of criminally incompetent Republican control of the White HOuse which engaged in wholesale deceit on a seemingly daily basis.

he read your diary..

Shit, I forgot that entry:

"Dear Diary: Today Briwo told me that he was able to get only 8 inches of zulu's 11 inch cock down his throat. I told him that was TMI and no, I didn't want to hear about han's member, either, no matter how funny he claimed it looked"

Thanks for the reminder. My bad.

OK, FF. Which is more than you gave me. And mine was actually funny.

It is based on the past eight years of criminally incompetent Republican control of the White HOuse which engaged in wholesale deceit on a seemingly daily basis

Oh. The broad brush thing. You choose one administgration and judge all republicans by them. Can I play that game? Can I choose a couple of democrats and judge all the rest of them by them?

Don't worry -- I won't. Unlike you, I'm smart enough to see the real world and don't need to simplistically paint it with broad brushes. Yes, I admit, the broad brush approach to reality appeals to those with diminished mental capabilities who can't grasp the more complex issues in life, but it's not for me.

Feel free to wield that brush as you see fit, however, m8.

Cheyney is scary. The comment I made on the "terrorist" bust yesterday is enriched by his nastiness. They set up a high-budget "anti-terrorist" initiative and seem to get only idiots who never contacted the Middle East. They busted some retards who thought blowing up the Lincoln Tunnel would flood New York City. Huh? These Einsteins do not understand sea level and we are supposed to be terrified??
Cheyney needs some anger managment: a thorazine suppository, electroshock and isolation at a Badlands dude ranch. That guy is sick.

Uh, you do know that "the near diaster in NYC this week" was an operation that was being planned for about a year?

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2009-05-21 11:57 PM | Reply

Uh, you do know that 9/11 was an operation planned during Clinton's watch?

One more of your Bush screeches put to rest.

Cheyney is scary.

#51 | Posted by Diablo at 2009-05-22 01:12 AM | Reply

He's only scary to cowardly terrorists who hide behind women, and pussy democrats.

Which one are you?

We need to find the relatives of the Japanese war criminals, and have them sue the United states government for wrongful prosecution. After all, waterboarding isn't torture and that's what some of them were accused of committing war crimes with.

We need to find the relatives of the Japanese war criminals, and have them sue the United states government for wrongful prosecution. After all, waterboarding isn't torture and that's what some of them were accused of committing war crimes with.

#54 | Posted by dibblda at 2009-05-22 02:25 AM | Reply

The Japanese did more than splash water on someone's face.

They ripped out fingernails, beat prisoners repeatedly, starved them, made them march until they died, induced insanity through dripping water, and of course the water cure: force prisoners to drink about a gallon of water and then jump on his belly and cause the stomach to explode.

And once a prisoner was of no more use, they would starve them to death or simply behead them.

Yep! Just like Luxurious Club Gitmo!

Had a cousin who survived the Jap Bataan Death March. No Club Gitmo there.

#55
semantics

Because they refused to heed what they had been told. They didn't take the threat of Al Qaida seriously

They didn't have any actionable intel leading up to 9-11, Yav.

After the fact, you guys accuse the Bush administration of fear-mongering - hyping up the threat we face. And then, in the same thread, you accuse them of not giving a shit; of not taking the threats we faced seriously.

In short, you guys come off as suggesting we are not at risk and the GOP is making shit up to scare everyone into voting for them and in the very same breath you point out that we were hit on 9-11, it was a HUGE deal and the GOP didn't take the dangers to this nation seriously.

You guys are paradoxical to say the least.

They didn't have any actionable intel leading up to 9-11, Yav.

Aug 6 PDB: Al Qaeda determined to strike U.S. using airliners as weapons (ph). Increase security at airports? Ban sharp objects (like boxcutters) or other obvious weapons? No. Increase scrutiny of Arab male non-citizens? No.

Hold a meeting on Al Qaeda after Richard Clarke warned the Bush Administration in January 2001? No. Not until September 12th - 9 months later.

8 months later

Let us not forget the 52 warnings PRIOR to the August 06 2001 PDB. Nahhh they had plenty to go on they just refused to do ANYTHING. They needed that Pearl Harbor like event to get the populace in favour of their Resource Wars in the guise of fighting terrorism.

Larry

Let us see the Obama fact check...liberal fuck-tards, blind as ever.

SomeoneFarted (great handle, btw),

Actionable intel means they would have known the time, the place and the method of the attack.

The PDB had nothing in this regard.

The Bush administration was one of the most incompetent in our nation's history. Having said that, they lacked the intelligence necessary to prevent 9-11.

"You mean it's back up above 13 percent? roflmbfao!!"
#6 | Posted by Corky

Yes, 37%....higher than the Democrat leaders except "The One whose name we are not worthy to mention".

What a stark contrast. A rock-solid, dignified and wise statesman, schooling the brash, pandering, arrogant showman.

Dick Cheney is a GREAT man who has spent many decades in honorable service to this country. God bless him, and those LIKE him.

DaveR = Ignorant fool

DaveR,

For the most part, our highest elected officials, once retired, have an unspoken policy of keeping their criticisms to themselves when it comes to those who have replaced them. Recent Dems are much worse in this regard than recent Republicans. Regardless, ALL of it bothers me for some reason.

Cheney is just the latest installment - Clinton, Gore AND Carter are all equally culpable. I am glad Bush, so far, has remained mum.

"Dick Cheney is a GREAT man who has spent many decades in honorable service to this country. God bless him, and those LIKE him."

Dick Cheney's talent lies in Machiavellian, inside-the-bureaucracy manipulation. He is neither a grounded, innovative, or remarkable thinker nor well suited for contributing to a society blessed with some democratic elements. He has done more to harm this country and its political system than any vice president I can think of. (At least Aaron Burr's schemes never really caught the wind.) Sadly, many of the people like him inhabit corporate offices where they can freely game the system. The good news is that some of the people like Cheney have been removed from the board due to their occupancy of prison cells.

if Chaney is really the idiot many make him out to be, Obama could "seal the deal" by declassifying the documents dealing with the results of the interrogations & other the national security programs in place since 911.

hmmmm, I guess us citizens will have to wait for the CIA leaks for a glimpse

Uh, you do know that "the near diaster in NYC this week" was an operation that was being planned for about a year?
#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2009-05-21 11:57 PM | Reply
Uh, you do know that 9/11 was an operation planned during Clinton's watch?

Vernon, I dont think Gal's point was that it happened under Bush's watch, but that it wasn't a 'near disaster'. Nice Clinton deflection though.

But along the lines your referring too- The Bush administration's fingerprints are all over this thing. I wonder how far this plan would have gotten were it not for FBI plants supplying the weapons? Did they talk them in to the whole idea too like FL? Will this also cost millions of taxpayer dollars to have more mistrials?

Poor, poor liberals. To think someone would critize FLOP EARS and his administration.
We better give them back the ball or they are going to tell their mommy on us.

Ah, THERE'S the old Oozie we've come to love and respect so. I feel better now that I've had may FLOP EARS fix for the day.

Cheney is just the latest installment - Clinton, Gore AND Carter are all equally culpable. I am glad Bush, so far, has remained mum.

#67 | Posted by JeffJ at 2009-05-22 06:45 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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I betcha He knows how badly He fucked up and is remaining quiet because He is hoping people forget about the past 8 YEARS.

Larry

if Chaney is really the idiot many make him out to be, Obama could "seal the deal" by declassifying the documents dealing with the results of the interrogations & other the national security programs in place since 911. hmmmm, I guess us citizens will have to wait for the CIA leaks for a glimpse #69 | POSTED BY MARKH

How's this for total transparancy- lets release EVERY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT concerning 9/11 and let the country 'seal the deal' on that one.

where is obama giving a campaign speech at today? the man does love the sound of his own voice.

They didn't have any actionable intel leading up to 9-11, Yav.

That's a dodge. You and Goatman gloss over the entire point I made, which is what Cheney said:

Nine-eleven caused everyone to take a serious second look at threats that had been gathering for a while, and enemies whose plans were getting bolder and more sophisticated.

You know, I always wondered where that "pre 9/11 mentality" concept came from.

After the fact, you guys accuse the Bush administration of fear-mongering - hyping up the threat we face. And then, in the same thread, you accuse them of not giving a shit; of not taking the threats we faced seriously.

9 years after, 27 mentions of 9/11 in Cheney's speech, the threat of terrorists being released into the U.S. by closing Gitmo?

You confuse taking a threat seriously with milking an emotionally laden, horrific event from 9 years ago for all it's worth.

Yav,

ALL politicans play whatever card is available to them. The RNC does it, as do your beloved DEMs. Having said that, 9-11 was a real event. It happened. We were attacked by a bunch of maniacal assholes who would be ecstatic if they were capable of turning our country into one big pile of glass. If you want to argue that the Republicans exploited this reality and their perceived advantage regarding defense...fine.

Just don't try and deny reality.

Zuasshat:
His dad was an Admiral or something and he was offered the opportunity to leave but he wouldn't leave his friends behind. What a guy.

yeah what a guy who a political career and as soon as he returned dumped his waiting wife and kid for a rich bitch to help him get there.

you mean the songbird who flew a navy plane to a football game, ands later crashed, what, 5? jets, and got about 28 medals (more than 2 per hour) for 40 hrs of combat duty at 30,000 ft.?

yeah a real man's man.

you fuck. Mccain is a punk and a puke.

btw here's letter he sent a friend of mine, I suggested the Oxford dictionary of the English language to Mr. NO Accountability:
www.math.fsu.edu

If you want to argue that the Republicans exploited this reality and their perceived advantage regarding defense

That's not what they're doing, nor what I or Cheney referenced. Kudos for going with a past perception on Republicans having an advantage regarding defense.

Those days are gone.

It's time for the government to prepare a new "bunker" for Cheney; in Leavenworth.

you fuck. Mccain is a punk and a puke.

IChiro - you have to admire anyone that would be so bold as to say "I'm not sure the British usage of the term 'fixed' has the same meaning which we might give it in our country..." followed by the canard about "incontrovertible fact."

"if Chaney is really the idiot many make him out to be..."

What is this? "Attack of the Killer Strawmen"? Who said Cheney's an "idiot"? He's not an "idiot" and he's not a "moron" and he's not "stupid," either. Me, I'll settle for "nasty," "manipulative," "sociopathic," "fascistic," and "asshole."

"The Most Insanely Biased "News" Story In History"

"At least I think it's intended to be a news story. It popped up on Yahoo News a while ago, which I assume means that many thousands of people will read it. It's written for McClatchy by two reporters--I guess they are supposed to be reporters--named Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel and is titled "Cheney's speech contained omissions, misstatements." The article is basically a compendium of DNC/Daily Kos talking points from 2003 to the present. It is full of falsehoods, long-discredited canards, and misleading statements."

www.powerlineblog.com

Whoa!!! A liberal newspaper and author thinks Cheney exaggerated? What a surprise. Give me a break, who posts this crap on Drudge anyhow. Get a life!!!

. It is full of falsehoods, long-discredited canards, and misleading statements."

"But we can't name any of them."

Damn that link was funny! Thanks for at least bothering to post the link, though. That is more than most on the right bother doing.

And what exactly was/is McCain's response to Gitmo and torture?

#18 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

His response to torture was AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHGGGGG!!!

How about taking up a collection so we can buy Cheney a cheese basket and a Morton's Steakhouse gift certificate?

Let us not forget the 52 warnings PRIOR to the August 06 2001 PDB. Nahhh they had plenty to go on they just refused to do ANYTHING."
#61 | Posted by LarryMohr

Let's not forget that the 9-11 pilots were in the US training to fly before Bush was even elected. One of them was here as early as 1996.

Only a moron would blame Bush for 9-11.

Number of terrorist attacks in the USA ... under Bush/Cheney: 1 big one.

"How's this for total transparancy- lets release EVERY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT concerning 9/11 and let the country 'seal the deal' on that one."

I don't want to be anywhere near Bush or Cheney if and when that ever happens because they will definitely become incontinent.

"Only a moron would blame Bush for 9-11."

No one has ever blamed Bush for 9-11. That is a date and it would have come whoever was president. We blame them for not preventing the attacks that came on that date which they had been warned were coming.

"Only a moron would blame Bush for 9-11."

Its not all his fault. But he was CIC when it happened and we had an enemy who was repeatedly attacking us was common knowledge when he took office. So only a moron would say "Bush kept us safe" when 9/11 happened on his watch.

As for Cheney, I consider him more of a war profiteer than warmonger. There's no evidence that he's for starting wars unless they are going to exponentially increase the value of his financial holdings.

"Dear Diary: Today Briwo told me that he was able to get only 8 inches of zulu's 11 inch cock down his throat.
#48 | Posted by goatman at 2009-05-22 12:55 AM"

CC must be so proud of her Old White Southern Gentleman (you know, the one who doesn't post when he's not on the rig. LOL.)

"There's no evidence that he's for starting wars unless they are going to exponentially increase the value of his financial holdings."

Catch 22...all wars would increase the value of his financial holdings.

Im sure its already been asked but I assume that obamas speech is very near cheneys on this site???
as far as checking facts?

Unless Rogers has suspended your posting privileges---alas, no evidence of that---why don't you take a deep breath and try posting a thread?

Im sure its already been asked but I assume that obamas speech is very near cheneys on this site???
as far as checking facts?

#95 | Posted by afkabl2

Rush late on releasing your opinion today?

nope ..right on time........

just like cnn this morning as well as the left leaning houston chronicle.......

and as well as before sleeptime. npr......and fox of course......

I know that its not something you can relate to..
this reading and listening to more than one side of an argument but some of us do it quite reguarly...

and YOU DIDNT ANSWER THE question
did fact check run the obama speech...OH WAIT they dont have to .
ILl give it to you right here


"I wont look backward"
ITS BUSH"S FAULT
ITS BUSH"S FAULT
ITS BUSH"S FAULT
ITS BUSH"S FAULT

More bloviating from Bungler in Chief, Obungle.

Waterboarding is wrong...blah blah blah...Gitmo is wrong...blah blah blah....We're going to stop waterboarding...blah blah blah...We're going to shut down Gitmo....blah blah blah....No, wait, we're going to keep Gitmo open....blah blah blah...we need it....uhhhhh, it's necessary....uhhhhh, we need to keep America safe....blah blah blah!


See Bloviator spin...spin spin spin. And O'tards keep goose stepping to their Bungler in Chief!

Fact checking Cheney's speech?

Well, that could't have taken very long.

All he spews most days are lies.

See also: Fact-free fantasies, sins of omission, exagerations, distortions, misrepresentations, think tanked propaganda, and context-free misleading statements.

Wot part of his speech wasn't a lie?

The one where he isn't responsible for sitting back and letting 9/11 occur in order to fullfill a PNAC fantasy?

The one where waterboarding isn't torture?

The one where torture worked?

Where the guys in Gitmo were the "worst of the worst"

Where plots were broken up due solely to waterboarding?

Where the prison abuse was the result of a "few bad apples"?

That one's a classic.

FTA: The abuse of detainees in U.S. custody cannot simply be attributed to the actions of 'a few bad apples' acting on their own," said the report issued by Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and John McCain, R-Ariz. "The fact is that senior officials in the United States government solicited information on how to use aggressive techniques, redefined the law to create the appearance of their legality and authorized their use against detainees."

And some rtards here attend this Tragical (Revised) History Tour and keep the faith by flicking their bic lighters in the audience while Dickless rips off another Big Lie Solo?

Then Afkababbler and Theo Nebs and Zcrewloose et al try and turn this into an "OMFG!! Obama is SUCH a LIER!!1111" thread?

Predictably pathetic.

Be Well.

Obama on Thursday vowed no retreat on closing Guantanamo Bay, branding the prison a "mess" and charging that Bush-era anti-terror tactics were rooted in fear and ideology.

He also raised the prospect of holding the most dangerous Al-Qaeda detainees indefinitely in US "super-max" jails,

This means that the guy we are holding at Gitmo who planned 9/11 and cut off Danial pearls head on film doesn't get the death penalty.... This is what you idiots elected....

You should all be ashamed of this man... Kissing the Islamo Terrorist ass does not make us safe...

The guy killed 3000 Americans and OBAMA wants to give him life!

Cant kill a terrorist like that but we can vacume out fetus after fetus and do Partial Birth abortions.....

You people on the left have a sickness

"does not make us safe... "

I feel safe. Have since the end of the Cold War. If you don't, that's your problem.

Fuck all you Cheney haters he is more of a man that the big eared bastard in the white house will ever hope to be, except to his people that we are fighting against.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney's defense Thursday of the Bush administration's policies... ...contained omissions, exaggerations and misstatements.

Pretty much sums up the entire last 8 years of what came out of the Bush White House does it not?

Fuck all you Cheney haters he is more of a man that the big eared bastard in the white house will ever hope to be, except to his people that we are fighting against.

#104 | POSTED BY BADEYE AT 2009-05-22 04:55 PM | REPLY | FLAG 4.bp.blogspot.com"> Whaa! /a>

Screw a joke up, just don't try and fix it. . . argh.

This means that the guy we are holding at Gitmo who planned 9/11 and cut off Danial pearls head on film doesn't get the death penalty.... This is what you idiots elected....


You should all be ashamed of this man... Kissing the Islamo Terrorist ass does not make us safe...

#101 | Posted by bashthis

Wow! You are just fucking nuts.

This means that the guy we are holding at Gitmo who planned 9/11 and cut off Danial pearls head on film doesn't get the death penalty....

So that none of you are mislead by the retarded rants of bashthis:

"The most prominent of the military commissions cases seeks the death penalty for five detainees charged with planning the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, including the self-described mastermind, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed."

A bashthis post is what happens when the babysitter runs out for a smoke.

Stupid

Stupid

Stupid

McClatchey paper;

Are you people kidding, you will believe anything. Has anyone actually ever heard of this rag?

Thanks for playing.

McClatchy isn't a "paper". It's a company and news service and has multiple holdings. It's well-known.

#111 | Posted by BetelG

RIGHT. What the fuck does "well known" mean.

Thanks for playing

Shit, I could start a "news service" and becoome "well know". It does not mean they are worth a shit, much like the huffington post.

The company originated in The Sacramento Bee, which was first published on February 3, 1857, after the California Gold Rush. James McClatchy took over as editor of the Bee within a week. Having purchased Knight Ridder, the United States' second-largest newspaper company (see below) (Gannett Company is the largest), McClatchy operates 32 daily newspapers in 29 markets, with a total circulation of 3.3 million. [1] In addition, McClatchy operates a number of community papers that are printed with less frequency. The Minneapolis-St. Paul Star Tribune, acquired in 1998 and sold again in 2007 to private-equity firm Avista Capital Partners for $530 million, had the highest circulation of all McClatchy newspapers.

Thank god there's still some investigative journalism left out there.

Thanks for playing.

Fact check for Obama's speech--

NO PLAN!!!!!!

Fact check for Obama speech--

Blaming Bush 28 times.

Fact check for Obama's speech--

NO PLAN!!!!!!

#114 | Posted by MURPHY

As compared to Bush/Cheney's great "plan" for Iraq after Baghdad fell?

Blaming Bush 28 times.

#115 | Posted by MURPHY

That about offsets Cheney's 25 "9/11's" in his.

Blaming Bush 28 times.

#115 | Posted by MURPHY

That about offsets Cheney's 25 "9/11's" in his.

I didn't realize the two were related.

I'm sure you didn't.

I'm sure you didn't.

With me not being the type to knee-jerkingly deflect, that was a safe assumption on your part.

That about offsets Cheney's 25 "9/11's" in his.

Actually 27. I missed the spelled out "nine-eleven" in my first count.

How bout fact checking BHOs speech. It contained NO truths. The man is still on the campaign trail.

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