This is no longer the UNITED STATES of America, that all changed when DEMOCRATS voted Barry into office and set the country on a path to socialism, and although I feel sorry for the dealer get used to it this is how communism works. As for the people responsible THANK a yellow dog DEMOCRAT for wanting the government to be in charge of everything in your life that used to be called freedom. WE already own a car manufacturer (GOVERNMENT MOTORS) and are about to purchase California the first state in the new union of THE SOCIALIST STATES of AMERICA, remember to be sure and thank DAD (Dumb Ass DEMOCRAT) for the demise of our country...

...On Thursday, May 14, 2009 I was notified that my Dodge franchise, that we purchased, will be taken away from my family on June 9, 2009 without compensation and given to another dealer at no cost to them....

Time to break out that contract and re-read the small print.

Oh well, hope you and yours are able to find some change lying on the streets.

--Barack O verlord

Snopes will probably be on this one fairly soon. Interesting to see how it'll shake out. For example: How's the dealership doing? Is it a hotbed of scam artists? Does it provide decent service? Odd that googling doesn't reveal any newspaper where this "letter" supposedly appeared. Hmmm.....

Oh, I almost forgot:

#1 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-05-21 08:44 AM | Reply | Flag: Round the Bend

"This is no longer the UNITED STATES of America,"

While I sympathize with this person, and others who will be impacted by this, it is ridiculous to go off the deep end screaming the end is near.

Businesses make tough decisions every day. They decide what markets to expand, what markets to cut back, and what markets to abandon. Branches are cut back, or eliminated, franchises granted or revoked, management downsized every single day.

There is lots and lots of blame to go around about how the auto industry got into the mess they are in, but who in the world ever said the steps required to get back on track would be painless and without ramifications?

Business is very seldom painless, and tough decisions have to be made in any field or industry all the time, and you don't hear much about it. This one happens to be in the headlines because of the size of the industry.

I wonder what he means by this " given to another dealer at no cost to them."?

There are also two sides to everything. I wonder what position he would be in if they declared bankruptcy instead?

I would think a foreign care company would get him on board and really help kill the American car companies.But then they are hurting too.

I can understand the need to cut back some franchises, but no compensation and sticking the dealers with the inventory is going to cause many lawsuits.

Here's a picture of George and his staff:

Additional info:

"Chrysler looked at a number of criteria in deciding which dealerships to close, including sales patterns, how close a dealership was to other Chrysler dealerships and whether a dealer sold a competing brand, such as Suburu or Honda, under the same roof.

More than half of the dealerships eliminated sold fewer than 100 Chrysler vehicles a year, and 345 sell competing brands at their dealership. While the dealerships slated to close account for 25 percent of the company's total dealerships, they represent just 14 percent of the company's sales volume, Press said.

Chrysler won't buy back the 40,000 vehicles that are on the lots of the dealers slated to close. The dealers won't be able to sell the cars themselves after June 9 when they are no longer affiliated with the company. Chrysler said it will help redistribute the cars to remaining dealers and said there should be a demand for them because the automaker isn't producing cars while it's in bankruptcy proceedings."

He sounds like he's still five years short of realizing that he hasn't been operating in free market economy since probably at least 1974 when he first bought the business. He should have gotten a clue about this when he says that without factory incentives he can't sell his cars.

In a real free market economy everybody who ran their business badly would be allowed to fail but as we see that is not the case. Those who are "too big to fail" are bailed out, small businesses like his go to the wall. He and his employees suffer, those bailed out still get to enjoy rewards during the economy's systemic failure that they caused. That's the final bitter irony of it all that's so hard for him and us to swallow.

Oh, I almost forgot:

#1 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-05-21 08:44 AM | Reply | Flag: Round the Bend

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Thanks DOC it warms my heart to know I am revered over a news paper, unless the news paper is the New York Times who only print the Party line Agenda...

Flag: Round the Bend

Ahhaha DOC I bet you thought I would miss that part...

"it warms my heart to know I am revered over a news paper..."

Could you reword that statement so it actually makes some sense? Thanks. I'll wait.

"I would think a foreign care company would get him on board and really help kill the American car companies.But then they are hurting too."

They already offer Isuzu.

Could you reword that statement so it actually makes some sense? Thanks. I'll wait.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

It warms my heart to KNow I am taken at face value over a news paper ???

Here's a picture of George and his staff:

www.sunshinedodgeisuzu.com

#7 | Posted by silver_ironist

I feel sorry for Cricket.

"I would think a foreign care company would get him on board and really help kill the American car companies.But then they are hurting too."

They already offer Isuzu.

#13 | Posted by danni

Hey Doc I noticed you let danni slide with the foreign "care" company, sorry danni I always try to help out DOC when I can sometimes he is like the absent minded professor...

Mr Joseph, You sound like a person that I would like to do business with, but the failure that has fallen on you is not a failure of the United States.

It is a failure of a handful of elitist that are being bailed out and protected by people that are supposed to be representatives of the people, but who clearly are not. And those reps are in both parties.

Why don't you STFU and take you losses like good little sheep or get off your ass and do something about it. And while you are crying, think about all the millions who lost all life savings and investments too.

Heck of a job Bam Bam!

Heck of a job Bam Bam!

Unfortunately, Bam Bam inherited Chim-Chim's economy.

they'll come for your homes too. your children. your wealth...

this is tyranny.

they'll come for your homes too. your children. your wealth...

this is tyranny.

#20 | Posted by nanc

Oh Puhleese.

#6 | Posted by kerrin57

it's called "transferring inventory" and i heard about it on the news this week.

We are falling apart at the seams. Thanks Dubya. Sighhhhhhhh

Fake letter from some Republican asshole. Big fucking deal.

I'm still trying to figure out where any of you got the idea that a company doesn't have the right to cut back in weak markets, or reduce its presence where it is over-saturated.

My new vehicle inventory consists of 125 vehicles with a financed balance of 3 million dollars. This inventory becomes impossible to sell with no factory incentives beyond June 9, 2009. Without the Dodge franchise we can no longer sell a new Dodge as "new," nor will we be able to do any warranty service work. Additionally, my Dodge parts inventory, (approximately $300,000.) is virtually worthless without the ability to perform warranty service. There is no offer from Chrysler to buy back the vehicles or parts inventory.

Chrysler should have the right to downsize their distribution system but this is wrong. I'm guessing that Chrysler feels like they can get away with this considering the financial shape they are in right now.

Where this is headed eventually will really piss you all off though. Anybody's "compasion" for Chrysler and all of the other Manufactures will quickly fade when you see how this all shakes out.

Fake letter from some Republican asshole. Big fucking deal.

what is fake?

We are falling apart at the seams. Thanks Dubya. Sighhhhhhhh

#23 | Posted by LarryMohr

Anyone else notice the same tired old lame excuse "Everything is Bush's Fault" even though Barry the Community Organizer has been President for some time now. I can see 2010 already this whole mess is the fault of Bush not Massa Barry and the Bullshit Bill...

I am having a little trouble understanding how the decision to eliminate some dealers was necessarily made by President Obama or any of his administration. As I recall Chrysler asked for and received loans from the federal government, the last of which was contingent upon Chrysler making a deal with Fiat. I do not remember there being a seperate demand that they eliminate any dealers. It seems to me that this decision was made by the management of Chrysler with perhaps some influence from Fiat.
Whether or not it was a smart decision I don't have any way of knowing but pretending that this somehow proves Obama is turning America into the USSR is pretty ridiculous.

economists are stating it will be very bad by the end of the year - get your christmas shopping done early.

one of the dealerships in this area is offering with the purchase of ANY dodge truck a pt cruiser.

Whether or not it was a smart decision I don't have any way of knowing but pretending that this somehow proves Obama is turning America into the USSR is pretty ridiculous.

You are right. It doesn't prove anything.

It is silly to blame every woe on a sitting president isn't it??????????????????

"It is silly to blame every woe on a sitting president isn't it??????????????????"

Yeah, silly to blame a president for invading a country that never attacked us and then using torture to try and get false confessions to justify it.
Silly to blame a bad economy on those who actually created it.
I never blamed Bush for anything he wasn't responsible for.

Hope and change

and broken promises

SUCKERS

Hope and change

Stay the course, dumbfuck.

"How's the dealership doing? Is it a hotbed of scam artists? Does it provide decent service? Odd that googling doesn't reveal any newspaper where this "letter" supposedly appeared."

It was sent, from what I understand, to the AmericanThinker. Typical shoot the messenger, truely the party of destruction.

I have seen a couple of different interviews with dealerships that got cut, typically the same story.

Why does it need to be a newspaper, I wouldn't send a letter to a newspaper like this and expect it to get printed.

Whether or not it was a smart decision I don't have any way of knowing but pretending that this somehow proves Obama is turning America into the USSR is pretty ridiculous.

#29 | Posted by danni

Danni Sean Penn's buddy Hugo Chaves nationalized everything he could get his hands on, as did his role model Fidel Castro. Barrack Obama is ORDERING automobile companies to manufacture cars that will be less competitive, because they will be more expensive and not as safe. The Government is involved in the PRIVATE SECTOR because of bailout money, when California has to be bailed out the same thing will happen the center of power will move to Washington and California will be the first state to loose their 10th amendment rights. The bailout money will be tied directly to power and control...

Here's a picture of George and his staff:

Melbourn is a typical east coast FL town, right? ...say, 15-20% African American? Yet only two black folks out of 70 employees. One of 'em is the "Detail Pro"--he washes the cars. Maybe Dodge noticed this? Maybe there is a lot more to the story than 'a super successful, profitable, honest dealership gets the shaft from socialists'? Maybe it is just bad Karma.

Anywho, he still has Isuzu (whatever the fuck that is). He has a building with which to conduct business that I assume has value and is centrally located. He has an inventory (he bought on credit), and he claims to be a hard worker. If he can't make a living with that, no car company can help him. So what does he want? Why did he write the letter? Does he think the government should come in a FORCE Dodge to give him a franchise? What the fuck kinda "free market" is that?

Anywho, he still has Isuzu (whatever the fuck that is). He has a building with which to conduct business that I assume has value and is centrally located. He has an inventory (he bought on credit), and he claims to be a hard worker. If he can't make a living with that, no car company can help him. So what does he want?

Again, what he wants is for Chrylser to let him keep his franchise. I agree that Chrylser should be able to do what they want but specifically the issue is the way they are severing their relationship. He is holding their cars and has it financed. Dealerships need the factory incentives to sell new cars. He is also holding a bunch of parts that I would think he could unload to another dealer for a discount.

If Chrylser was willing to stay with him until he unloads most of that inventory then I think that would be a better decision.

Yeah, silly to blame a president for invading a country that never attacked us and then using torture to try and get false confessions to justify it.

#32 | Posted by danni

Danni please elaborate on these so called false confessions, Barry would want every American to see and hear these alleged false confessions IF that were the case. The TRUTH is information was obtained that prevented terrorist attacks and saved American lives and that is why BARRY REVERSED HIMSELF and decided not to release ALL the information with an executive order...

The TRUTH is information was obtained that prevented terrorist attacks and saved American lives and that is why BARRY REVERSED HIMSELF

Wow...mind reading. Can you give me the Florida Lotto numbers for this Saturday please?

If Chrylser was willing to stay with him until he unloads most of that inventory then I think that would be a better decision.

#38 | Posted by eberly

As I posted earlier, Chrysler says they will help these dealers by facilitating transfer of inventories to other dealerships. Hopefully they mean that and its not just lip service. If they don't do everything they can in that regard, I would agree they would be pretty crappy.

The TRUTH is information was obtained that prevented terrorist attacks and saved American lives

#39 | Posted by ATaxpayer

The TRUTH is we were TOLD that. No evidence actually presented, and some of the ones alluded to turned out not to be true. Maybe there is some truth there, but none of us really know for sure.

What Chrysler is doing is simply reducing the number of dealerships in any given area. Why have 5 dealerships doing alright when you can have one doing great? The car dealers are finding they over-saturated most areas with dealerships and that hurt overall sales. There is no purpose, for example, for Miami to have a Ford Dealership across the street from a Ford Dealership.

Kanrei,

"Why have 5 dealerships doing alright when you can have one doing great?"

Doesn't sound like Joseph was doing poorly, or complaining about it.

Which do you think is better for Chrysler. Many places competing to do warranty work, or one?

"If Chrylser was willing to stay with him until he unloads most of that inventory then I think that would be a better decision."

From the letter he has until June 9th, otherwise he can't sell the cars as NEW.

Why have 5 dealerships doing alright when you can have one doing great?

I understand but now Chrysler has made is more difficult for you to shop around. You used to have competing dealers. Now you will have to travel further to get 2 or 3 dealers to fight for your business.

It means more margin that the customer will end up paying.

"Chrysler says they will help these dealers by facilitating transfer of inventories to other dealerships. "

If you were a dealership would you take those cars? Not yet, I wouldn't accept them until the other dealer was desperate to sell. Would you carry more inventory, with the economy the way it is?

Joseph's best option is sell the stuff at cost immediately.

There is going to be a fire sale on Chryslers this summer.

It was not my idea. I heard it on the news yesterday that many dealerships were reducing the number of outlets they had in most cities to one. They are blaming over-saturation for falling sales and want to see if limiting the number of dealerships in a given area will help.

If you were a dealership would you take those cars? Not yet, I wouldn't accept them until the other dealer was desperate to sell. Would you carry more inventory, with the economy the way it is?

#46 | Posted by AndreaMackris

An inventory transfer doesn't involve any purchase. The new dealer just assumes responsibility for it.

And per that same article - Chrysler will not be manufacturing vehicles during the bankruptcy period so the more successful dealerships will need cars.

They are blaming over-saturation for falling sales and want to see if limiting the number of dealerships in a given area will help.

I think it will help and this was needed. It is better for the consumer to buy fewer cars and keep them longer. This, of course, doesn't please the auto industry but it appears that the adjustments for this are taking place.

HOwever in the end, there will be fewer dealers which will allow the manufacturer to create more margin.

Wow...mind reading. Can you give me the Florida Lotto numbers for this Saturday please?

#40 | Posted by kanrei

Yes what will you give me in return :) ...

Actually I have no way of mind reading but consider this Obama has reversed himself and only released that fact water boarding was used. He will not release ANY INTEL by executive order that was gained by the use of water boarding hmmmmm, would he not want to prove water boarding is not only torture but it is also ineffective. Also several freedom of information acts have been filed on this very issue and are still in limbo hmmmm...

An inventory transfer doesn't involve any purchase. The new dealer just assumes responsibility for it.

And per that same article - Chrysler will not be manufacturing vehicles during the bankruptcy period so the more successful dealerships will need cars.

Very fair points.

Yes what will you give me in return

15% pre-tax.

"An inventory transfer doesn't involve any purchase. The new dealer just assumes responsibility for it."

These cars are not owned by Chrysler, they are owned by the dealerships, paid for with loans. A dealer doesn't just assume responsibility of someone elses inventory. It becomes a liability for them, and no one is going to want to take the liability freely, until its clear they can sell the cars.

They are blaming over-saturation for falling sales and want to see if limiting the number of dealerships in a given area will help.

#16 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-05-21 09:20 AM

The "care"-car was my boo boo. I flipped a cereal bowl onto my keyboard. Replaced it with one bought from ebay. Worked out great but seems keys are not quite positioned like old board.
HENCE ...I will prob screw up again.

Here's a picture of George and his staff:

Melbourn is a typical east coast FL town, right? ...say, 15-20% African American? Yet only two black folks out of 70 employees. One of 'em is the "Detail Pro"--he washes the cars. Maybe Dodge noticed this? Maybe there is a lot more to the story than 'a super successful, profitable, honest dealership gets the shaft from socialists'? Maybe it is just bad Karma.

37 | Posted by r8rh8r

I wonder if they will close profitable dealers to keep some in areas that are less profitable in a sort of affirmative action way?

#53 | Posted by AndreaMackris

In NC dealers also pay a tax on the cars still on the lot at year end.

"it warms my heart to know I am revered over a news paper...
Posted by ATaxpayer

Could you reword that statement so it actually makes some sense? Thanks. I'll wait.
#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

It warms my heart to KNow I am taken at face value over a news paper ???
#14 | Posted by ATaxpayer

The problem isn't a typo.
The proble is you're just not making any sense.

Here's a story with more details on the situation:

The proble is you're just not making any sense.

#57 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

nEVER UNDERESTIMATE doc IT LOOKS LIKE HE MAY HAVE MISpelled "problem" but me thinks I see I little mockery...

Damn caps lock was on.

#52 | Posted by kanrei

As for kanrei 15% pre tax sounds good to me 3 21 18 33 39 99. AFKABL2 had some inside info from his date last night and passed it on...

"Danni please elaborate on these so called false confessions, Barry would want every American to see and hear these alleged false confessions IF that were the case."

""The new report includes testimony from an Army psychologist at Guantanamo Bay who described increasingly relentless pressure from Washington in the summer of 2002 to use harsher methods on detainees. "[T]his is my opinion, even though they were giving information and some of it was useful, while we were there a large part of the time we were focused on trying to establish a link between AI Qaeda and Iraq and we were not being successful in establishing a link between Al Qaeda and Iraq," Army Maj. Paul Burney told investigators. "The more frustrated people got in not being able to establish this link...there was more and more pressure to resort to measures that might produce more immediate results."

You realize the portion you quoted does not satisfy the request, right dummy?

Perhaps I should redirect:

Danni the details of water boarding have been released and even you say the information obtained was useless. Now that Obama has opened PANDORA'S BOX why are we not allowed to see what information was obtained and did the information in fact save American lives. Obama can release all the information obtained by executive order and demonstrate as you have suggested the information was useless, why would Obama not want to bolster his position by demonstrating nothing was obtained...

"You realize the portion you quoted does not satisfy the request, right dummy?"

I think most fair minded folks would conclude that my accusation is supported by that quote. That you don't is hardly a surprise but then I said "fair minded folk" and you don't qualify.

So much for the rule of law--that is out the window.

Tyranny abounds and liberty stolen.

This is like Ayn Rands' personal story of how her family's drug store was taken away by the gov't and given to some pol.

We are Atlas Shrugged.

Now we gotta go Galt.

There's a big dodge dealership close to my home. There was a chrysler jeep dealership right next door to it that closed and another dodge dealership a few miles away that closed, and this guy got all their business.

I bought a used durango off of craigslist. It was a border patrol vehicle. It has the cop package with a small lift kit, oversized all terrain tires and big old 5.9 l engine. I bought it to pull my motorcycle trailer with. I wanted to wait, but i figured i better buy while it was cheap. the blue book was $6900 and i bought it for $3000. I've added about $500 worth of fixes and it's perfect.

I was up at this dealership getting some parts and i asked the guy if they were in trouble and he said they had so much work, especially in the shop, they were gonna have to hire some people. he said they were still selling new cars too. especially that new challenger.

We are Atlas Shrugged.

Now we gotta go Galt.

#64 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-05-21 07:57 PM | Reply | Flag: We don't know what in the fuck we are talking about

"So much for the rule of law--that is out the window."

Murphy commenting on Cheney's speech where he acknowledged water boarding which is against the law??????

Hey Joe-Chrysler could have just gone tits up like Studebaker. Wanna guess how they "transferred" their unsold stock? Bankruptcy auctions-and the dealers ate the loss and the debts.
Their customers ate the warranty loss too.

After all, that's how the capitalist system works, right Muffy?

Btw, Chrysler sold these franchises to guys like Joseph to make money. If the markets are over-saturated, its because the guys in the $1000 suits were making themselves look good at bonus time.

You know, the UAW line workers.

We had a local GM dealer get forced to build a big new store to keep his franchise. GMAC held the mortgage. They wanted him to renew at 17%. He's gone.

Again, the UAW's fault.

Which do you think is better for Chrysler. Many places competing to do warranty work, or one?

Warranty work is a set rate, and under what the shop would charge a customer for identical non-warranty work. Nobody "competes" for it, Mackie. It's simply part of the franchise requirements.

Northy,

"Warranty work is a set rate, and under what the shop would charge a customer for identical non-warranty work. Nobody "competes" for it, Mackie. It's simply part of the franchise requirements."

I heard on the news this morning that the remaining Dodge dealerships may have to close.

Not sure how that's supposed to work, but there it is. I believe that Fiat/Dodge is setting the stage to squeeze them again.

one of the dealerships in this area is offering with the purchase of ANY dodge truck a pt cruiser.

#30 | Posted by nanc

Maybe you could trade you kid for one. After all, the gummint's just gonna take him anyways, right?

Andrea-you're talking apples and oranges. You may not know it, but Porsche and Chev are two different companies. Maybe their price differences show that.

Chrysler's warranty work pays the same at each dealer. As for quality of service, there's no way of knowing whether Joseph's guys are better or not.

But its funny, all the righties here whining about this are the same ones who wanted Chrysler to go under. I wonder if they would be so concerned with Joseph's plight if he was stuck with 3 million dollars worth of inventory that had no warranty available and nobody to help him get rid of it.

Again, lacking ideas, the right is reduced to sucking and blowing at the same time.

So what does he want? Why did he write the letter? Does he think the government should come in a FORCE Dodge to give him a franchise?
#37 | Posted by r8rh8r

Melbourn is a typical east coast FL town, right? ...say, 15-20% African American? Yet only two black folks out of 70 employees. One of 'em is the "Detail Pro"--he washes the cars. Maybe Dodge noticed

Dear Mr. Joseph,

The UAW worked hard for my election, so I decided to give the company to them, and share in the profits. So the new policy here at Obama Motors is to close down a lot of dealerships, so that we can charge more for every car.

It doesn't help that you're in Florida, and McCain won the Sunshine State. Had you lived in say, Connecticut, I might pretend to give a damn. But not really.

Sincerely yours,

Barack Hussein Obama

p.s. It serves you right for deciding to sell Dodge/Chrysler, and not Nissan.