Oh--so waterboarding is not torture--not really.

Oops for Holder.

Let me ask this McAnkles:

Theatrically of course you're a member of the US military part of the system. A valued asset.

The next step is SERE School.

Let me say it again SERE School.

Do you real think Bush / Cheney were sending detainees to School?

This is all a ruse by the left wing, they couldn't care less about terrorists, they just want to make cheap political points and if they damage the United States and national security.....all the better.

Sick Animal Nancy put it best when she said, national security matters didn't matter to her, only gaining policitally was important.

Liberals are just pretending to be terrorists lovers, their faux tears for KSM and Abu Zubydah are shallow cover for their true agenda, which is political pay back and hatred for Bush and all things conservative.

Only the most demented and ill of downer cattle on the left really spend sleepless night over the 9-11 mastermind, Khalid sheikh Mohammeds, hairwashing.

I say we make two lists,

1. People who feel real empathy and remorse for Khalid sheik Mohamed and Abu Zubydah. Who cry at night for the 'suffering' they 'endured' at the cruel hands of the Bush administration (who had the full backing and support of people like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi).

If you lay awake crying at night over the terrible injustice brought upon these poor innocent men by the savage United states, put your name on this list.

2. People who are glad the government did whatever they could to save 1000's or 10's of 1000's of lives by breaking these savage, serial killing, mass murderers with techniques that worked.

My name is on the second list, where is yours?

Even Chuckie Schumer was for waterboarding to protect Americans.

#2 | Posted by Zap

They are waterboarded at SERE.

It was not torture.

We are trying to extract information to save lives.

That is not torture.

They are waterboarded at SERE.
It was not torture.
We are trying to extract information to save lives.
That is not torture.

REPEAT SLOWLY UNTIL IT MAKE SENCE, ANKLES MUST BE UP RAISED!!

It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you I'll put it to you this way, you give me a water board, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
~Jesse Ventura

He has been there McAnkles, Have you?

When is Murphy going to get a balanced view of this world?

When we establish the missing link between apes and man?

Wow, we just did.

Come on in, Murphy, join the intelligent people.

Come on in, Murphy, join the intelligent people.

~SITDOWN

McAnkles would rather be Politicly RIght than Intelligent..

It was not torture.

We are trying to extract information to save lives.

That is not torture.

Posted by MURPHY at 2009-05-19 09:23 PM | Reply

Sorry Murphy You know I love You but You are talking like a Woman with a Paper asshole the shit just keeps spewing out. Waterboarding IS torture has been since it's inception. How many fucking times do we have to go over this. That fucking useless show 24 has rotted Your brain on the matter. You need deprogramming.

Larry

Maybe you should explain it to Holder.

Maybe you should explain it to Holder.
~McAnkles

LOL

Maybe You should explain it to Ventura...

You can't reason with filth Murph, you just can't.

Tell us Larry, you cry for terrorist serial killers, yet what is your stance on people who abuse helpless animals for sexual pleasure?

This is an honest question.

Tell us Larry, you cry for terrorist serial killers, yet what is your stance on people who abuse helpless animals for sexual pleasure?

This is an honest question.

Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-05-19 10:03 PM | Reply

Go fuck Yourself You useless piece of shit.

Larry

Put your name on the dotted line Zap, be the first here to declare your allegiance with Khalid shaikh Mohamed and Abu Zubaydah officially.

I put my name down under statement 2, I am grateful that the CIA did what ever it could to save American lives, and I have zero remorse for savages that killed 3100+ people on 9/11 and 1000's more all over the world. I would have burned out their eyes with hot pokers to stop more attacks. Gladly.

Put it down Zap, you sick fuck.

Please Simpleton the world is a lot bigger than your ignorant two step.

Well Zap if you don't agree with those two steps--do you have a third one?

What do you know about the world Zap?

You live in your closed minded little world of liberalism, protected by people you despise, and crying for those who want to kill you.

You cry your sick little faux tears for serial killing mass murders, who laugh at your support and would cut the heads off your children without batting an eye.

You should get on yours knees right now and thank the men and women who protect your life and your right to be a pathetic, terrorist sympathizing, nut-bag.

You don't need to put your name on the list, you're already on it.

Well Zap if you don't agree with those two steps--do you have a third one?
~McAnkles

Nothing you would understand..

They are waterboarded at SERE.

It was not torture.

#5 | Posted by MURPHY

I've posted this before, but I see you've missed it.

Malcolm Wrightson Nance is a former member of the U.S. military intelligence community, a retired U.S. Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer.

He was an instructor at the U.S. Navy Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) school in North Island Naval Air Station, California. Nance served in that capacity as an instructor and Master Training Specialist in the Wartime Prisoner-of-War, Peacetime Hostile Government Detainee and Terrorist Hostage survival programs.

Here's what he says about waterboarding:

"Waterboarding is a torture technique. Period. There is no way to gloss over it or sugarcoat it. It has no justification outside of its limited role as a training demonstrator. Our service members have to learn that the will to survive requires them accept and understand that they may be subjected to torture, but that America is better than its enemies and it is one's duty to trust in your nation and God, endure the hardships and return home with honor."

What do you know about the world Zap?

Simpleton:

1/ Never assume.

a/ Since you can't get past this continue you worthless dribble...

#19 | Posted by Zap

Great reply.

Well Zap if you don't agree with those two steps--do you have a third one?

It's a difference in priority.

1 / I wasn't looking to justify a war.
2/ I didn't put out a casting call blindly for so called insurgents without a plan.
3/ Rule of law does mean something beyond lying over infidelity.

They are waterboarded at SERE.
It was not torture.
We are trying to extract information to save lives.
That is not torture.
#5 | Posted by MURPHY

Waterboarding at SERE?
SERE is conducted to teach people who to resist...torture.
How did Bush-Cheney torture save lives?
Not one life proven to have been saved.
Not one plot foiled.
Not a single attack thwarted.
It's torture.
And your support for it makes you complicit.
Live with it.

From Holder--

You see, said he, it's "a fundamentally different thing," because

we're doing something for training purposes to try to equip them with the tools to, perhaps, resist torture techniques that might be used on them. There is not the intent to do that which is defined as torture which is to inflict serious bodily or mental harm. It's for training. It's different.

But it's not different because "it's for training." Look at the torture statute (Sections 2340 and 2340A of the federal penal code) and try to find a "training" exception. There isn't one. What removes an act from the ambit of torture (besides lack of severe pain) is intent. Lungren pressed this point, and Holder admitted that the training was "not torture in the legal sense because we're not doing it with the intention of harming these people physically or mentally." Intent, he acknowledged, was the key question.

Then, Lungren pounced. The CIA interrogators who questioned top al-Qaeda captives like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah intended no more harm to them than Navy instructors intended to their SEAL trainees. In fact, we know that the CIA went to great lengths, under Justice Department guidance, precisely to avoid severe harm. Their purpose, Rep. Lungren observed, was to "solicit information," not to inflict torture.

Holder was trapped.

The Dems and Obama and the left have completely politicized this issue.

Now when it's pointed out that waterboarding three terrorists did not invoke sever physical or mental harm--and there was no intent to do so--since it was to illicit information, Holder can't back track.

But he will and you will see spinning like nothing seen before.

Because with our EIT's they are not torture.

Now when it's pointed out that waterboarding three terrorists did not invoke sever physical or mental harm--and there was no intent to do so--since it was to illicit information, Holder can't back track.

But he will and you will see spinning like nothing seen before.

Because with our EIT's they are not torture.

Posted by MURPHY at 2009-05-20 07:58 PM | Reply

Why are You such a full of shit Woman on this Murphy. Waterboarding is torture always has been always will be. It is also Illegal to do. You obviously do not comprehend what Holder said. Jesus Christ Murphy. You are a Woman You are supposed to be smarter than this??

Larry

Then, Lungren pounced. The CIA interrogators who questioned top al-Qaeda captives like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah intended no more harm to them than Navy instructors intended to their SEAL trainees. In fact, we know that the CIA went to great lengths, under Justice Department guidance, precisely to avoid severe harm. Their purpose, Rep. Lungren observed, was to "solicit information," not to inflict torture.

Holder was trapped.

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G-d You right wiongers are some fucked up fools You know this right Murphy?? You are now talking like a Woman with a paper asshole the shit ust keeps spewing forth. Intellectual Dishonesty to the nth degree and YOU KNOW IT.

Larry

The dems amateur hour continues to air on this subject. They must really be utterly clueless or their new founded power has gone to their head. Please open up the so called truth squad. Seeing the likes of Pelosi squirm and making the gang of eight testify will be entertaining. Anyone heard from Harmon or Rockefeller yet? Or are they distancing themselves from the Botox queen.

Intellectual Dishonesty to the nth degree and YOU KNOW IT.

Pot meets kettle.

Please open up the so called truth squad. Seeing the likes of Pelosi squirm

I agree that we need open hearings on this issue, with all the players identified.

A squirming Pelosi will lead to an indicted Cheney.