Surprise, Surprise, Surprise, and Shazzam too!
Democrats Break another campaign promise. Damn, don't you libtards just love that honesty that just oozes from Obama. You sheeple will fall for anything.

Let the appoligizing and excuse making begin. I can just hear the backpeddling now.

"But Baracks Gitmo is a kindler gentler place for our friends the terrorist. With a little love and compassion and some govment welfare checks we can turn them into voters(I mean good citizens)."

Signed, The Democrat Party

Democrats Break another campaign promise. Damn, don't you libtards just love that honesty that just oozes from Obama.

#1 | Posted by buzkiller

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Obama put money for closing Gitmo in his budget request. That would hardly qualify as a lie, or breaking a campaign promise.

On the other hand, if any Democrats in Congress who vote not to allocate the funding to close Gitmo campaigned on a promise to shut it down, then they would be being dishonest.

Obama should make an executive order and move these people to Texas to be held.

Fuck'em. They are Bush's creation. Make him and his fellow Texans deal with them.

Problem solved.

Oh, here's the part your article didn't mention:

President Barack Obama's allies in the Senate will not provide funds to close the Guantanamo Bay prison until the administration comes up with a satisfactory plan for transferring the detainees held there, top Democrats said Tuesday....

... Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois said Obama's plan to close Guantanamo is not dead only that the funding will have to wait until the administration devises an acceptable plan to handle the closure and transfer the detainees. Obama has promised to close the military prison by January.

#1 | Posted by buzkiller

Even for you, you're pathetically ignorant.

Oh, here's the part your article didn't mention:

#5 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-05-19 04:34 PM | Reply

Was any of that unknown or unforseeable back when Obama was selling the closing of Gtmo to all of his followers?

It's like the tribunals all over again. Obama makes grand promises and the masses buy in to it. Then reality strikes (the same realities Bush faced) and Obama floats some lame reasoning and his loyal servants lap it up.

... Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois said Obama's plan to close Guantanamo is not dead only that the funding will have to wait until the administration devises an acceptable plan to handle the closure and transfer the detainees. Obama has promised to close the military prison by January.

#5 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

source?

...and Obama floats some lame reasoning and his loyal servants lap it up.

#7 | Posted by 101Chairborne

I'd hate to lump you into the same category with someone like Buzzy, because I think you do recognize that it isn't Obama floating any "reasoning" on this.

Too slow.

But then again, your article has more info... Like the statement from the Pentagon that they do not foresee the closure deadline being delayed.

#9
Thanks for the benefit of the doubt. What I mean is, he knew damn well that there needed to be a plan in place for closing gitmo. Everyone knew it. When he announced he was closing it, everyone wondered what he was going to do with the detainees...

Now, here we are, and it's his allies that are asking the question. He will (as opposed to my earlier assertion that he had) offer up some rationale that doesn't fit reality, and people will accept it, as they have with the tribunals.

I will bring home our troops immediately. = Never said that

I will fix the economy. = Its only been 4 months

I will bring back jobs. = Ditto

I will balance the budget. = Ditto

I will restore civility in Washington. = IMO that is starting to happen

I will not have lobbyist working for me. = Never said that - although granted there has been some fudging on the rules that he did lay down

Next, try reading the articles linked by Many and I. I know you don't like to hear stuff that doesn't fit your tunnel vision, but try it out.

"What I mean is, he knew damn well that there needed to be a plan in place for closing gitmo."

Yes, he knew, and knows there has to be a plan in place before he closes it. That's why he put it on a 1 year timetable. I don't think he had any idea the Congressional Dems would choose to show fake balls on the issue and not approve his budget for it.

Maybe we can discuss the topic of Dems walking lock-step with Obama on everything again.

Anyone interested?

Back during the primaries Spud specifically remembers Rtards going apeshit with happiness at all the promises by the GOP candidates to continue on torturing as a matter of course and to build Gitmo up to double its current size.

Obama sed he was gonna close it down.

Now it looks like it might take longer than he projected.

And wot do the rtards say?

"ZOMFG! Obama is teh liar!!!1!11"

No mention of their previous support for Obama just whining.

Is kinda like watching the folk who've long argued fer the "neccessity" of torture cos it "makes us safer" suddenly concentrating on Pelosi's alleged involement to the exclusion of all else including their own inherent hypocrisy.

Yes, Spud realises it's pretty much all they have left but it's still pathetic.

Be Well.

"I don't think he had any idea the Congressional Dems would choose to show fake balls on the issue and not approve his budget for it."

Really? You mean he didn't expect a need to garner bi-partisan support on things he promised during the campaign? And expected Democrats to go along with his dumb ideas he has no plans for?

Sorry, in reality he probably never planned on closing Guantanamo Bay. Just figured he'd stick it in the budget and let someone else vote it down so he could say "well, I tried" even though he never had a plan. He's keeping the tribunals and keeping Guantanamo, and you'll be fine with that no matter what the explanation. May as well just admit it now and get it over with.

Maybe we can discuss the topic of Dems walking lock-step with Obama on everything again.

Anyone interested?

If you wanna make it a discussion of which side of the political aisle is more likely to honestly and constructively criticise their own leadership and policies, Spud sez go fer it!

Seriously, the creeping facism on the right during the BushCo years has mutated rtards from their traditional lock-stepping ways into being goose-stepping lock-steppers.

There are blinded partisan hacks on both sides of the aisle but Spud'll argue that they are the exception on the left and the rule on the right.

Hell, just look at Rush Limbaugh, the uncrowned King of the rtard ideologues, his sheeple actually refer to themselves as "Dittoheads" without a even a trace of irony or awareness that they are basically calling themselves unthinking lock-steppers.

If you have any arguments that refute this perception then Spud'll be happy to hear 'em.

Be Well.

Sorry, in reality he probably never planned on closing Guantanamo Bay. Just figured he'd stick it in the budget and let someone else vote it down so he could say "well, I tried" even though he never had a plan. He's keeping the tribunals and keeping Guantanamo, and you'll be fine with that no matter what the explanation. May as well just admit it now and get it over with.

#20 | Posted by JOE

You need to pick a side here man.

Do you want it closed or not.

It appears that you are going to be a crying little bitch about it either way.

He's keeping the tribunals and keeping Guantanamo, and you'll be fine with that no matter what the explanation. May as well just admit it now and get it over with.

Hope yer buying all that straw wholesale cos otherwise you might go broke.

Spud's already on record as saying that going ahead with the Military Commisions trials, despite the improvements Obama made to the process, is a mistake.

If you like, Spud'll tell you here and now that Obama not closing down Gitmo would not be fine by Spud.

K?

Be Well.

It appears that you are going to be a crying little bitch about it either way.

#22 | Posted by Manypaths

That would make Joe a liberal.

"You need to pick a side here man. Do you want it closed or not."

Sure, I want it closed. I also want an honest president. It appears I'll get neither of my wishes.

"Spud's already on record as saying "

Nobody cares about what you're on record as saying. Per the quote above my post, I wasn't talking to you.

Nobody cares about what you're on record as saying

Oh Well, thanx anyway fer taking the time outta yer busy day just in order to go on the record about not caring about wot Spud sez.

Nice effort.

Be Well.

I will bring home our troops immediately. = Never said that

I will fix the economy. = Its only been 4 months

I will bring back jobs. = Ditto

I will balance the budget. = Ditto

I will restore civility in Washington. = IMO that is starting to happen

I will not have lobbyist working for me. = Never said that - although granted there has been some fudging on the rules that he did lay down

Next, try reading the articles linked by Many and I. I know you don't like to hear stuff that doesn't fit your tunnel vision, but try it out.

#16 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

So what the hell was he changing again?

Maybe we can discuss the topic of Dems walking lock-step with Obama on everything again.

#18 | Posted by Manypaths

That's funny it seems the other way around most (if not all) of the time

"I will bring home our troops immediately. = Never said that"

Correct, he said he would start bringing 1-2 brigades a month home immediately(Presidential debate Sep 26, 2008). The problem is that he can't get his story straight. First it was 16 months then it was at the end of 2009 then it became 2013 or at least he would hope it would be.

"I will fix the economy. = Its only been 4 months"
And in those months all he has done is re-try failed ideas.

"I will bring back jobs. = Ditto"

"I will balance the budget. = Ditto"
Four months may not be enough to finish it but a start might be nice, you know rather then going the opposite way like he has.

"I will restore civility in Washington. = IMO that is starting to happen"

Can't argue that, civility is in the eye of the beholder. I see less, i see cruel and just plain meanness like i have not seen before. but that is just my opinion.

I will not have lobbyist working for me. = Never said that - although granted there has been some fudging on the rules that he did lay down"

The point to all this is that Obama didn't have a clue then nor does he have a clue now about Gitmo but he keeps talking out of his ass and you dems are there to sniff the fragrance.

And Reid says the Gitmo girls will not be coming to the US.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) declared in a press conference today, "We will never allow terrorists to be released into the United States." In several tense back and forths with reporters, Reid said he opposes imprisoning detainees on U.S. soil, saying flatly, "We don't want them around the United States":

REID: I'm saying that the United States Senate, Democrats and Republicans, do not want terrorists to be released in the United States. That's very clear.

QUESTION: No one's talking about releasing them. We're talking about putting them in prison somewhere in the United States.

REID: Can't put them in prison unless you release them.

QUESTION: Sir, are you going to clarify that a little bit?

REID: I can't make it any more clear than the statement I have given to you. We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States.

Later, Reid repeated that he would not support Guantanamo detainees being transferred to U.S prisons:

QUESTION: But Senator, Senator, it's not that you're not being clear when you say you don't want them released. But could you say would you be all right with them being transferred to an American prison?

REID: Not in the United States.

A reporter then asked, "[I]f a detainee is adjudicated not to be a terrorist, could that detainee then enter the United States?" Reid refused to answer directly, saying, "Why don't we wait for a plan from the president? All we're doing now is nitpicking on language that I have given you. I've been as clear as I can." After being peppered by questions, Reid joked, "I think I've had about enough of this."

Even if they fund it, there's no place to send the detainees. No state wants them -- even incarcerated in a prison -- and no other country is willing to accept them on their soil. All trussed up and no where to go. That's the reality Bush faced and Obama ignored during the campaign.