Lipz to Meghan; 'Sweetie, come on over here and let me show you what 'pro-sex' is all about'.

she's a rebel.

why are the italics stuck on this post?

oooh, italics fest?

did that fix it? genius.

can i control the signature as well?

Hey, *I* am pro-life too. Anyone favoring women's reproductive rights is pro-life. Terminating pregnancies in safe medical establishments rejects the death risked in illegal back alley butcheries. If the bloody fetus photo-waving loonies were really for life, at least five clinic workers would be alive today. I LIKE the italics, too. herm

Yes, but the Horizontal and Vertical are being controlled by the Twilight Zone.

so i can.

[evil laugh]

Yes, but the Horizontal and Vertical are being controlled by the Twilight Zone.

#8 | Posted by kanrei

Correction to pop culture reference:

The Outer Limits controls the horizontal and vertical. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity.

#10 | Posted by SanAntonio

DAMN ME DAMN ME DAMN ME!!!! Thank you Sana!

Thank you Sana!

#11 | Posted by kanrei

Getting to stay up to watch The Outer Limits was one of my favorite treats as a kid.

sorry for hijacking the thread.

"And I would never want to practice anything I didn't preach."

I'm not sure how I feel about this statement. I practice all sorts of things that I don't preach. For example, my kids will get in trouble if I catch them doing illegal drugs (and probably legal ones as well), but I don't maintain that as my political stance. Private sphere vs. public sphere.

i was a rebel too.

Private sphere vs. public sphere.

#13 | Posted by illumin

Just wait until you catch one of them whacking off. I can honestly say that in raising 6 children, this is the only thing that left me damn near speechless.

But back to the public/private thing, I think you should practice what you preach or vise versa. Otherwise, you may as well become a catholic priest.

You know, Miss McCain the Younger has a not inconsiderable start on a future political career.

She has already started casting off the talibaptists and the neo-con philosophies, which in my mind, is an excellent start toward re-vitalizing the repub party. I cannot wait until she breaks her self-imposed restriction on commenting on Sarah Palin publicly.

Plus, she's easy on the eyes and that always helps.

Hey, I am pro-life too. Anyone favoring women's reproductive rights is pro-life. - HARM

Uh, no. You are the most pro-death person I know. I know nobody else who has walked so many into the execution chambers. - I get tired of saying that as much as you tire of hearing it - but when you make such an assinie statement as the one above and possibly the scariest statement every typed on the DR

"The act of terminating a pregnancy should not be judged negatively.
It is about as negative as a tonsillectomy."

And you think Bush and Cheney are evil? What a lost cause you are.

I think you should practice what you preach or vise versa. Otherwise, you may as well become a catholic priest.
#15 | POSTED BY LIPZOIDIAL

Oh, I certainly agree that you should practice what you preach. However preaching everything you practice? I'm iffy on that. Maybe it's just a matter of semantics, and she didn't pay close attention to her "phraseology."

#17 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

The act of terminating a pregnancy should be made by the woman and not by the church and not by the government and not by the courts.

And it certainly should not be made by men. I guarantee you that if men had to carry the baby and care for it, abortions would be like getting your oil changed in your car.

I don't care what Jesus told you this morning while you were mortifying yourself (for him), this is not a theological question.

the funny thing about you talibaptists is that you really seem to care about a fetus before it's born, then aftwards, not so much.

Godwin's Law on abortion:

We need it because back alley abortions are the only alternative.

about you talibaptists LIPSTICK

I am a catholic. I am also a father. My strong pro life stance came after I became a father not after I became a catholic (which happened in that order). The funny thing about you libtard pro-deathers is that you don't care about them before their born or after. You only care about telling them what to do.

"... you libtard(s) is don't care about them before their (sic) born or after. You only care about telling them what to do."

I hear this kind of bullshit soooo often, and never does a rigid rightie suggest just WHY we are supposed to do this. What's in it for me, Cidney? herm

Yes, but the Horizontal and Vertical are being controlled by the Twilight Zone.

#8 | Posted by kanrei

That was "The Outter Limits" a great show.

the funny thing about you talibaptists is that you really seem to care about a fetus before it's born, then aftwards, not so much.

#19 | Posted by Lipzoidial

I just love how you brown shirt progressives always resort to name calling when you disagree with someone.

I just love it how the chicken plucker resorts to deflections when he lacks facts. herm

The funny thing about you libtard pro-deathers is that you don't care about them before their born or after. You only care about telling them what to do.

#21 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

First, I'm not a libtard, I'm and independent-tard. Second, let's pretend for the sake of this thread that the catholics are slightly less evil than Satan.

I suppose your being a father makes you more of an expert on the subject of children than someone that is not a father. Well, in that case, I suppose my opinion is more valid than yours, since I've raised 6 children.

Please pay attention this time. I will recommend to every person I know to NOT get an abortion. I believe it is not medically a good thing to do and I believe it is NOT a morally good thing to do. Can you understand this? These are my personal thoughts on the subject. But my personal thoughts have nothing to do with it. I am more worried about our country falling under a corrupt theocracy than I am worried about your daughter having an abortion and going to hell (or whatever fairy tale you believe in).

I simply do not believe that the practice should be regulated by corrupt institutions like churches and governments. It is a personal decision, period. Inasfar as it being a moral or legal issue, until that baby is born, it is a part of a womans body and should be treated as such.

As far as the pro-deathers goes, the only people that I am pro-death about is ignoramuses who would ruin our country because they are too stupid to understand the meaning of our original state documents.

Um. I agree with Lip. I feel like that's weird.

The reason our nation can't have anti-abortion laws is this:

Our laws govern many people of many faiths. The laws we make must not favor one of those beliefs over the others. I believe that a fetus is a human and has the rights of a human. But other people do not, and their opinion matters, too.

Legally, a fetus is not a human. I can not buy a plane ticket for my unborn child (due on saturday) because she does not have a birth date, or an SSN. I also do not have health care for her. I can't claim her as a dependent on my taxes. However, if someone shoots my wife and kills both of them it's a double-homicide.

Basically, I vote pro-choice and choose life myself because laws are not a statement of faith. Laws are a contract binding the community, enabling us to live in peace.

Just think, when Meghan gets about 20 years older, she can run on the repub ticket and they will force Bristol Palin, who will have 19 kids by then, on her as a running mate.

Won't it be fun watching two pre-menopausal women run the NOP.

Our laws govern many people of many faiths. The laws we make must not favor one of those beliefs over the others. I believe that a fetus is a human and has the rights of a human. But other people do not, and their opinion matters, too.

#27 | Posted by illumin at 2009-05-20 10:08 AM

This is where I cannot reconcile a totally pro-choice stance with personal belief that a fetus is a human. And it's not a thing of faith for me; I don't think Christians should be allowed to dominate the pro-life side of the debate (because they're often times fucking retarded).

she's a rebel.

#2 | Posted by nanc

naah, she's just all mavericky and that there, also.

Laws are supposed to protect humans, yet in this one little case, being a human doesn't count for much.

You sound like some Iraqi. Your family was cluster-bombed for their own good. And fetuses aren't humans. Look in the Bible-life doesn't begin until you breathe.

The act of terminating a pregnancy should be made by the woman and not by the church and not by the government and not by the courts.

Always wondered you can be a small government fan when you want politicians and bureaucrats standing next to each gynecologist every day? You really want some guy who won half of the votes cast, which were less than half the voters eligible, which is slightly more than half the population making medical decisions for you?

"Megan McCain = Pro-Sex, Pro-Life, Pro-Gay Marriage"

Its real simple Republican or Democrat any fat chick is obviously

1) Gay friendly since those are the only guys will to hang out with her

2) pro sex since they will fuck any guy desperate enough to drop trou.

3) pro life since that would be the only proof a fat chick could get a guy to do something else than just fuck her in the ass.

If the bloody fetus photo-waving loonies were really for life, at least five clinic workers would be alive today. I LIKE the italics, too. herm

#7 | Posted by herm at

And if there were other options for mothers to have the baby, this country would not have killed 40 million babies since Roe.

And no --I don't condone the murders of clinic workers either.

But your 5 to 40 million needed to be addressed.

"...this country would not have killed 40 million babies since Roe."

Murphy, you must tire of that outrageous lie. NO babies died from Roe. herm

I've always been a bit perplexed why pro-choice people make a big deal out of stating the "thing" being removed isn't really a human or a life, etc.

I mean...I always hear women claim to have "reproductive rights", so why do they feel the need to discount the life being taken, at all?

Why not just say, "it's a human life and I reserve the right to kill it"?

Why do you need both arguments?

Personally, I'm a Christian Humanist who believes in the Sanctity of Life, so the idea of killing unborn people does go against the grain for me.

Murphy is a Mother, so she has to think of Every Sperm as Sacred. She will not accept that a fetus is not a "Baby" because she has had actual babies.

I symathize, but she is totally mistaken, not to mention inflammatory and dumb about it.