Obama 1, fringe catholics 0

What a shame, BO at Notre Dame.

54 percent of Catholics who voted voted for Obama. 70 plus percent of the students approved the Pres as their speaker.

The pre-speech hysteria was promoted by a vocal minority of mostly professional Lifers who wanted to set the stage for SC hearings.

Like Alan Keyes who managed to get TV face time by being arrested twice.

They should have known that Obama would use the opportunity to display his own pragmatism and highlight their extremism, setting the table for his SC pick himself.

This is what America needs. Absolutely wonderful from start to finish. Maturity, respect, thought, reflection. So above the pettiness we've come to accept as the cost of the politics of division.

Holy Shit Rogers, don't you think the 400 pt bolded headline is a little over the top?

Even FOX NEWS had nothing much to criticize here, they went to regular programing (ATTACKING DEMOCRATS) as soon as possible, poor Mike Wallace had to give way to Greg Garret only for Garrett to try an find something that they could criticize unable to do so, went else where to attack the Democratic Party, same old Crap!!!!! Obama was terrific, now even the clowns at Fox must know why Americans voted for this Man as our President, makes one proud!!!!!!!

BFD!

Both the President of Notre Dame and Obama, through respect, courtesy and honor in each other's humanity made such a sharp contrast to Keyes and the others. This was a powerful testament to faith, respect and intellectual honesty.

Despite all the threats, there was hardly any protest at all. But then, there weren't even threats when George The Smiling Executioner Bush spoke at ND, even after he did in all those prisoners in direct conflict with Catholic policy on the death penalty.

But then, there weren't even threats when George The Smiling Executioner Bush spoke at ND, even after he did in all those prisoners in direct conflict with Catholic policy on the death penalty.

And bore false witness to start a war which has killed hundreds of thousands......but expecting keyes and his ilk to be rational is folly.

Corky, sorry you are forgetting church doctrine only speaks for the unborn fetus/zygote/clump of cells.

Once they're full term and born, the church couldn't give a shit.

Unless it's a boy of course.....

"I was for abortion before I was against it. I feel your pain. I will say anything you want me to say just so you'll love me."

Barack Obama

Bri

Catholic church doctrine is opposed to the death penalty. What you speak of is modern pop religion that has been recruited for political purposes.

Forever Wrong Thom.

"Unless it's a boy of course..." ff

abortion will always be a choice sensible women will make if necessary & possible for whatever reasons.

Sin of doing so is a Catholic relic:>)

Twenty-seven people were arrested prior to Obama's speech, including Norma McCorvey, the plaintiff in the 1973 Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision.

36 years later, somebody ought to tell he she LOST.

And Norma, sweetie, them pro-life GOPpers like Alan "i'll run for office anywhere' Keyes, ain't ever gonna do a damn thing about Roe V. Wade either. Just ask Nixon, Ford, Reagan or the Bushes...

Cork:Cork: I'm against the death penalty as well. And The Innocence Project has proven that my reasons for being so were valid.

However, as you know, I'm also an atheist, pro-choice, pro-2nd ammendment, pro-gay marriage etc.

Cork:Cork:

I always wanted a nickname, ;)

lol...corky works fine for me:>)

yeah, I don't know why it posted that way.

Damn gerbils.

Holy Shit Rogers, don't you think the 400 pt bolded headline is a little over the top?

Spud puts the use of the banner headline down to the naturally occuring residual guilt of a lapsed/cafeteria Catholic.

On Topic?

The wing nutty right here continues on with it's tradition of further marginalising itself with moderates and sane people, generally.

Nothing smells further or fouler than a burning martyr.

Obama's commitment to seeking consensus where available in the abortion debate makes him look like the pragmatic moderate he is and makes the Alan Keyesian wing of the party look like the shrill, uncompromising ideologues they are.

Score one fer Obama here.

Be Well.

hope Obama doesn't use the consensus consciousness to allow Iran to get bomb by nutty Israel

Obama: "I was a moderate by confession and a partisan by practice".... "I completely shunned National Day of prayer, but I have bowed to the Catholics who compromised with me." ... "Vengeance is sweet to me"...

national prayer day...you mean the day fake sincere people tell god what to do?

sounds like black magic to me:>)

Holy Shit Rogers, don't you think the 400 pt bolded headline is a little over the top?

I figured since the right wing was making so much out of the speech for weeks upon weeks, it was worth giving big play. Ain't every day you see a pro-choice president giving the commencement at a Catholic university.

President Hussein on abortion, 'They should be legal, safe, and medium well, preferably on a toasted kaiser roll with spicy mustard.'

Obama 1, fringe catholics 0

#1 | Posted by badgerwest

Obama 1, new born infants born alive that are allowed to die 0

Opposed legislation protecting born-alive failed abortions

Obama has consistently refused to support legislation that would define an infant who survives a late-term induced-labor abortion as a human being with the right to live.

He insists that no restriction must ever be placed on the right of a mother to decide to abort her child.

On March 30, 2001, Obama was the only Illinois senator who rose to speak against a bill that would have protected babies who survived late term labor-induced abortion.

Obama rose to object that if the bill passed, and a nine-month-old fetus survived a late-term labor-induced abortion was deemed to be a person who had a right to live, then the law would "forbid abortions to take place."

Ain't every day you see a pro-choice president giving the commencement at a Catholic university. -- #25 | Posted by rcade

I was stunned (in a good way) by a 2004 op-ed piece, written by a Dean at Notre Dame:

This partial birth abortion advocate urges us to "search for common ground" on infanticide?

Hmmmmmm, I wonder if he'd say the same on waterboarding?

What a TOOL!

honest discussion about life, choice, birth control and women's rights 1, obtuse rednecks 0

Another day of spin for the 'Prom Queen'.. rhetoric without substance...why would one expect anything different.. Naievty is alive..!!!

"Naievty(sic) is alive..!!!"

#32 | Posted by drsoul at 2009-05-17 06:57 PM | Reply | Flag: indeed

Oh great Zatoichi achieved another Hard On by condeming someones spelling. How many spermies do You create when You correct someones spelling errors or point them out Zatoichi??

Larry

while they may be dismayed at John Kerry's position on abortion and stem-cell research, they should be no less troubled by George W. Bush's stance on the death penalty, health care, the environment and just war

Very much THIS!

Good eye, Phoenix

Be Well.

That's just like the Left. Stand up for criminals...protect them, honor them, can call it humanitarian. But let 'em stick scissor blades into and infant's head and suck his brains out, and call it women's rights, and just!

More drivel from the fucked up Left.

Obama 1, new born infants born alive that are allowed to die 0

Still whining about Obama's vote on the PBA ban?

Couple things here.

First, PBA's make up less than 1% of all abortions done in the US.

Second, it was a bad bill crafted by right wing ideologues to essentially turn all abortion providers into criminals.

In 1997, Obama voted against SB 230, which would have turned doctors into felons by banning so-called partial-birth abortion, & against a 2000 bill banning state funding. Although these bills included an exception to save the life of the mother, they didn't include anything about abortions necessary to protect the health of the mother. The legislation defined a fetus as a person, & could have criminalized virtually all abortion.

Obama did the right thing there.

Be Well.

Oops, you were talking about the "born alive treatment act"

KK. Let's roll the tape back to the third Presidential debate between JSM III and BHO, shall we?

McCAIN: Sen. Obama, as a member of the Illinois State Senate, voted against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born of a failed abortion. He voted against that. Then there was another bill before the Senate Judiciary Committee in the state of Illinois not that long ago, where he voted against a ban on partial-birth abortion. That's a matter of his record.

OBAMA: If it sounds incredible that I would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true. There was a bill that said you have to provide lifesaving treatment. The fact is that there was already a law on the books in Illinois that required providing lifesaving treatment, which is why not only myself but pro-choice Republicans and Democrats voted against it.

Stand up for criminals...protect them, honor them, can call it humanitarian. But let 'em stick scissor blades into and infant's head and suck his brains out, and call it women's rights, and just!

Speaking of drivel from somebody fucked up...
btw, for a criminal act to take place, a crime must be committed. Since Nixon, Ford, Reagan and both Bushes made sure the legality of abortoins since Roe V. Wade was never seriously challenged,it seems the Heroes of the Right are pro-scissors in an infant's head, too.
Then again, since 70+% of the electorate approves of some form of abortion, maybe they just went with political reality over "family values".

He did not back down. That's a good thing.

Naievty is alive..!!!

At Christmas time Spud occasionally annoys his Catholic friends who set out Nativity Scenes by refering to them as Naivete Scenes.

/Why yes, Spud does get lumps of coal in his stocking a lot.
//How'd ya guess?

Be Well.

An interesting side note.

Thursday on CNN, a graduating student stated that she felt so strongly disagreed with President Obama's speaking at Notre Dame that she was willing to forgo attending the ceremony. Instead she and other like minded students would be attending what she referred to as a "celebration of life".

When the interviewer asked if she was perhaps denying her parents and other loved ones the opportunity to see her graduate, she responded that her family supported her choice. She continued by mentioning that Notre Dame really has a two part graduation, consisting of actual graduations by department where the degree is given to those matriculating. The cap, walk across the stage and the handshake. A Kodak moment. A second graduation occurs the following day featuring the entire class enmasse. Her protest and standing up for her faith and beliefs really cost her nothing. No sacrifice, no risk and no denial to the self. Pure theater.

well it cost her something--she comes off like a small -minded, smug bitch

Obama's votes in the Illinois state legislature are trivia. He's the president of the United States. What matters is what he does now.

I haven't seen this speech yet, but the visuals of him smiling affably and speaking in that doctoral gown sure are tough to beat. He doesn't, unlike me in similar attire 18 years ago, look like a dork.

#26 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

How do you prefer yours?
BBQ'd, with Potatoe* salad and cold beer?

*Dan Quayle-call your Orifice......

Obama getting an honorary degree from Notre Dame is another example of him being awarded something he didn't earn and wasn't qualified for. What's next, Obama being awarded an honorary license to practice medicine or an honorary license to fly 747s?

I haven't seen this speech yet, but the visuals of him smiling affably and speaking in that doctoral gown sure are tough to beat. He doesn't, unlike me in similar attire 18 years ago, look like a dork.

The speech was quite good, and if possible you need to watch the President of Notre Dame's intro and speech. This was quite a day. You'll become critically aware just how small minded the protest shows are in comparison.

This was powerful. It was inspiring. It defines how our discussions on divisive issues should take place. The entire ceremony was respectful, courteous, even humble.

BTW, after watching the entire thing, the sniping on this thread really comes across as pathetic, childish - silly.

I'm assuming that all the protesting NDers immediately paid back their federal student loans in protest, too. And the undergrads will refuse to attend any classes where fed money is involved as well as refusing ANY fed assistance.

I expect Alan Keyes will register at ND so he can run for President.

Of the Debating Team.

What a shame, BO at Notre Dame.

#2 | Posted by aclusux at 2009-05-17

What a shame...millions of Catholics in hell for eating meat on Friday before they changed the rules.

SPECIAL DISPENSATION !!!

Zatoichi(sic)

What a shame, BO at Notre Dame.

Apparently not to those that filled the arena.

He doesn't, unlike me in similar attire 18 years ago, look like a dork.

Looking good while wearing a doctoral gown is a pretty hard look to pull off fer most folks.

...If yer sporting a mullet it's well nigh impossible.

Just saying.

Be Well.

Immorality that will destroy the USA. BO is going at a record pace to achieve it.

"Poverty of Ambition"--yes--really uplifting words from the one while at ASU.

Just got done watching the speech here:

The only downside I can see is that some atheists will realize that he isn't faking his faith and decide that he couldn't possibly be as smart as he seems.

Obama could have easily avoided the hecklers if only he had made them sign Loyalty Oaths.

President Hussein on abortion, 'They should be legal, safe, and medium well, preferably on a toasted kaiser roll with spicy mustard.'

#26 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-05-17 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

MUSTARD ON A BURGER!!!! HOW ELITIST!!

-Hanutty and rest of the rightards.

BTW, did you clowns know that shit-hole McDonalds puts mustard on all their burgers unless you ask them not to?

FUCKING ELITISTS AND THEIR HAPPY MEALS!!!!!

Not to change the subject, but the best fast food burger is Whataburger, which always comes with mustard.

I thought Obama's speech was well done. He was thoughtful, civil, respectful and came across as an adult. Try as they might, it will be hard for anyone to turn him into a caricature on the basis of anything he said today.

President Obama urging civility and a search for common ground

Fat chance for civility when someone with strongly held views chooses to skip their commencement to attend an alternative event and is denounced as follows:

well it cost her something--she comes off like a small -minded, smug bitch

#43 | Posted by badgerwest

national prayer day...you mean the day fake sincere people tell god what to do?

More or less... an excuse for religious leaders to whip people up into a religious frenzy and encourage them to adopt specific political positions.

You should pray that the government does what Dobson wants it to do...

sounds like black magic to me:>)

Got a black magic woman...

Fat chance for civility when someone with strongly held views chooses to skip their commencement to attend an alternative event and is denounced as follows

i missed the radical catholic fringe's demonstrations against the death penalty and bush's made up war that slaughtered many innocents--can the civil debate begin after bush, rice and rummy are held accountable? if not, i may be slightly uncivil with rich, retarded republicans. sorry Messiah; not sorry whiskey pig et al

My sister graduated from ND today. Campus was absolutely quiet, and the bulk of the 40 or so people standing outside the gates were simply people who were wandering by curious to see what was going on (though the idiots driving the trucks with the pictures of aborted fetuses on them were extremely annoying - just circling back and forth in front of campus). It was entertaining to see the reporters panning to a prayer protest vigil with all of 4 students in attendance.

I do wonder if the students attending the protest commencement in the Grotto will get their diplomas. The department commencements aren't allowed to give those out - they have to be picked up in the Joyce ACC before the main commencement in order to force the students to attend.

Obama spoke like antichrist will speak to achieve his purpose --- talk like you're on their side and push policies that hurt them!

As for the student protesters, if they are denied graduation, its a price they have to pay to stand by their convictions: that life is precious and murder of babies in the mother's womb is an abomination to God.

As usual, Obamazombies are orgasmic over the Great Poser's act and empty rhetoric.

I thought this abourtion issue was a done deal. As a man, I could really care less.

If the women want it legal then they should organize and say so, else these right-to-lifers will make it illegal.

Simple.

It is legal, and it will stay legal until doctors agree when REAL self sustaining LIFE begins.

Alan "i'll run for office anywhere' Keyes, ain't ever gonna do a damn thing about Roe V. Wade either. Just ask Nixon, Ford, Reagan or the Bushes...

#16 | Posted by northguy3

At least northguy gets it. Legal abortion on demand is here to stay and there is no threat.

"At least northguy gets it. Legal abortion on demand is here to stay and there is no threat."

You're SURE? I would agree that it probably won't be banned entirely, but do you think "on demand" is accurate?

"PRINCETON, NJ -- A new Gallup Poll, conducted May 7-10, finds 51% of Americans calling themselves "pro-life" on the issue of abortion and 42% "pro-choice." This is the first time a majority of U.S. adults have identified themselves as pro-life since Gallup began asking this question in 1995."

#70 | Posted by jestgettinalong

Yes, we already had an entire thread on that poll, with a ton of posts on it.

And the original poster there tried the same misdirection as you do...

More people CALL themselves "pro-life" than "pro-choice", but if you read the actual poll, only 22% think abortion should be completely illegal.

76% believe that abortion should be completely legal, or legal with some restrictions.

"76% believe that abortion should be completely legal, or legal with some restrictions."

Key word being "restrictions." I call myself part of THAT demographic. Hey! Ain't you proud of me for not posting Rasmussen results?

Key word being "restrictions." I call myself part of THAT demographic. Hey! Ain't you proud of me for not posting Rasmussen results?

#72 | Posted by jestgettinalong

As do I.

And yes. Good job!

You're SURE? I would agree that it probably won't be banned entirely, but do you think "on demand" is accurate?

late term/minors etc... perhaps. Outside of that......no way.

"And yes. Good job!"

You understand, of course, that I still consider Rasmussen as usually being most accurate...right? That OK with you? I sure hope so, I'd hate to give them up entirely.

I seem to remember other pro-choice politicians speaking at Notre Dame without all this fuss. What do they hate more, the message or the messenger? Does one have to agree with every Church tenet before being allowed to address the student body? Who else had to pass this litmus test?

How about ASU refusing to give Obama and honorary degree because he has not accomplished enough yet.
Talk about self important a__holes and their delusions. At least ND had the good form to bestow him with a degree.

"I seem to remember other pro-choice politicians speaking at Notre Dame without all this fuss. What do they hate more, the message or the messenger? Does one have to agree with every Church tenet before being allowed to address the student body? Who else had to pass this litmus test?"

The issue was that ND is a PRIVATE, Catholic university and the Catholic Church is adamantly opposed to abortion...as they have a right to be. I think most of the protest was not so much as allowing Obama to speak as it was to presenting him an honorary degree seeing as his position on the issue is so far away from that of the Church.

The issue was that ND is a PRIVATE, Catholic university and the Catholic Church is adamantly opposed to abortion...as they have a right to be. I think most of the protest was not so much as allowing Obama to speak as it was to presenting him an honorary degree seeing as his position on the issue is so far away from that of the Church.

#78 | Posted by jestgettinalong

And yet the majority of Catholics voted for Obama, and only 28% of Catholics surveyed objected to Obama's being invited to speak and receiving an honor.

So is the position of every politician who is a proponent of capital punishment.

"....only 28% of Catholics surveyed objected to Obama's being invited to speak and receiving an honor."

Well then, I suppose that it was some of this group present at the university yesterday.

(Did you get these numbers from Rasmussen? :-))

The crowd at the commencement welcomed Obama, regardless of their personal feelings about abortion. Protesters who tried to interrupt him were met immediately with boos, as this video shows:

"#15 | POSTED BY BANI AT 2009-05-17 04:48 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Twenty-seven people were arrested prior to Obama's speech, including Norma McCorvey, the plaintiff in the 1973 Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision.
36 years later, somebody ought to tell he she LOST."

You're not particularly knowledgeable, are you?

Ms. McCovey was the plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, meaning she sued to HAVE an abortion. In other words, she won the case, but now regrets it.

"You're not particularly knowledgeable, are you?"

Are u self retorting ~ Pudgey?

"abortion will always be a choice sensible women will make if necessary & possible for whatever reasons."

"Sin of doing so is a Catholic relic:>)"

#15 | Posted by Bani

or just another Catholic relic?

I don't recall mentioning Roe vs Wade at all here lately nor really care much for that particular decision since it shouldn't be a political issue anyway?

But if you insist there's a biblical quote (Genesis 2:7) legitimizing abortion to get you all riled up as to its pertinent meaning in regards to biblical truths as surmised by heathens & whatnots:>)

"When Does Life Begin?"
"According to the bible, life begins at birth--when a baby draws its first breath. The bible defines life as "breath" in several significant passages, including the story of Adam's creation in Genesis 2:7, when God "breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Jewish law traditionally considers that personhood begins at birth.

Desperate for a biblical basis for their beliefs, some antiabortionists cite obscure passages, usually metaphors or poetic phrasing, such as: "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." Psalm 51:5 This is sexist, but does nothing other than to invoke original sin. It says nothing about abortion.

The Commandments, Moses, Jesus and Paul ignored every chance to condemn abortion. If abortion was an important concern, why didn't the bible say so?"

The pre-speech hysteria was promoted by a vocal minority of mostly professional Lifers who wanted to set the stage for SC hearings.

Like Alan Keyes who managed to get TV face time by being arrested twice.

They should have known that Obama would use the opportunity to display his own pragmatism and highlight their extremism, setting the table for his SC pick himself.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2009-05-17

since you didnt see it on the news maybe you will read it here

there were FOUR THOUSAND people in another area of ND that were ignored by the media who instead focused on the people who were arrested..thus showing the world that anti baby killers are just petty criminals

at the OTHER PROTEST it was with FACULTY and students with about 30 speakers and was NOT COVERED by the media.........

double standard??
please..thats not even a question anymore.

and I made a pledge to not hear one word here from the HEAD BABY KILLER but it was virually impossible because of the OBAMA ORSAMATHON.

and if you remember...it was a little like the minnesota memorial service
what I was forced to hear was just another OBAMA CAMPAIGN STOP.

He doesn't, unlike me in similar attire 18 years ago, look like a dork.

#44 | Posted by rcade at 2009-05-17 08:04 PM

But, I hear he looks a lot like Spock.

Obama spoke like antichrist will speak to achieve his purpose...

#65 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-18 01:56 AM

Obama spoke eloquently as usual... YOU on the other hand are sounding more and more like a deranged anti-christ type to me!

there were FOUR THOUSAND people in another area of ND that were ignored by the media who instead focused on the people who were arrested..thus showing the world that anti baby killers are just petty criminals
- #85 | Posted by afkabl2

I call bullshit!!! Feel free to provide a link to FoxNews with these 4000 people mentioned.

Hundreds of anti-abortion advocates gathered Sunday at the foot of the Golden Dome for a prayerful protest of President Barack Obama's planned commencement address and honorary law degree.

I understand your need to lie Bush Lover but you aren't fooling anyone.

AS USUAL???

you mean the person who wrote the script on the teleprompter wrote eloquently dont you?

and here is another little glitch in the obama'getalong'...

or JUST Another hypocritial democrat ...which ever way you want to look at it..

"You're not particularly knowledgeable, are you?"

Are u self retorting ~ Pudgey?

No, Banality. Just pointing out your false statement:

Ms. McCovey did, in fact, win her case in Roe vs. Wade. You falsely claimed she did not.

when in the year have I ever said that?

you got the wrong poster ~ pudgy

try again:>)

Then I stand corrected.

My first day on the board, and unlike most boards, the poster name appears below the post here.

My bad.

It was northguy's foolishness, not yours.

The rest of that rambling screed of yours is your foolishness, however.

NORTHGUY AND FOOLISHNESS in the same sentence

TELl me it isnt so joe???

actually isnt that his middle name??

AND AGAIN.,.........waiting on the media coverage of the estimated FOUR THOUSAND protestors on the other side of campus from the ones getting arrested.

and anyone notice obamas comment....congratulating the students for thier "MATURE" response to all this..
a not so vieled attempt at "DEMONIZING AND attacking political dissent" like any good FASICST DOES........

thank for the apology...shows you may have potential yet...

but abortion foes tend to be a self-righteous bunch in general ~ not specifically you though.

good luck on that salient point:>)

Then I stand corrected.

My first day on the board, and unlike most boards, the poster name appears below the post here.

My bad.

It was northguy's foolishness, not yours.

The rest of that rambling screed of yours is your foolishness, however.

#92 | Posted by Pudge

In the midst of this classic display of stupidity, this new N.A.N.C. has the gall to call 2 others fools?

Wow! You'll fit in nicely here on the right with the other fucking morons.

NORTHGUY AND FOOLISHNESS in the same sentence

#93 | Posted by afkabl2

You've sure been busy today running from thread to thread attacking people who aren't even talking to you.

A/C not working at the liberry today?

waiting on the media coverage of the estimated FOUR THOUSAND protestors on the other side of campus from the ones getting arrested.

You are going to have a long wait Bush Lover. That only occured in your little fucking mind.

Hundreds of anti-abortion advocates gathered Sunday at the foot of the Golden Dome for a prayerful protest of President Barack Obama's planned commencement address and honorary law degree.

If Bush Lover is going to continue to post here, RCADE needs to institue a BullShit Flag.

Again, I understand your need to lie Bush Lover but you aren't fooling anyone.

Well, anyone outside the Newbie......

A/C not working at the liberry today?

#96 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

ff

working fine here in St Jewish Park's Library ~ Franken's home town:>)

Update From Notre Dame - Randall Terry, in speaking by phone with Fox's Chris Wallace, said he's very disappointed at the low protest turnout. Few students have the pro-life emblem on their mortarboards. Obama received a resounding applause when he entered the hall and when he received the honorary degree. Wallace said that there has been a overwhelmingly positive response to Obama.

Again, I understand your need to lie Bush Lover but you aren't fooling anyone.

Again, I understand your need to lie Bush Lover but you aren't fooling anyone.

#99 | Posted by Manypaths

Somebody posted video from Obama's address earlier today showing the crowd loudly booing a protester in the audience who tried to disrupt the ceremony.

Yeah, I started a thread on Friday on how FoxNews was trying to make a news event out of nothing over this.

All that attention and Obama walks up and knocks it out of the park.

I love to watch the Right shit their pants daily over Obama. It's the most fun I have had in the political arena my entire life.

After 8 years of crying in the closet, liberals like manypaths should be entitled to enjoy a little sun, exhale, and let off steam.... after all, liberals are sissies and cannot bear to think of terrorists being waterboarded for the safety of all liberals and ACLU.

Cheney should take a break from waterboarding liberals by simply appearing on networks and talking in gravitas, making Obama look like a schoolboy who just got promoted by favoritism and bias....

#102 | Posted by takitez

You're drifting far from Christianity, Sandwich Board Boy. Your personal meltdown has obviously kicked into high gear.

"Cheney should take a break from waterboarding liberals ..."

The closest Cheney has dared to come to waterboarding is in his dreams, the ones where he gets orgasms while being waterboarded.

But he should stick to the topic of waterboarding. It's probably the only one on which he can string together a sentence.

#103....

I responded to #101 in the spirit of: 'answer a fool according to his folly...'

That's in Proberbs and Proverbs is in the Good Book.

There are lots of good books. At the moment I'm reading Alan Furst's Foreign Correspondent and I'll tell you, it's a darn good book.

#106...Yes, I need to read some good books beside The Good Book.

I have read Obama's 'Hope' and found it well written... but with a spot or two unsavory...

The fact that Jesus is still dead comes in a close second though.

Obama spoke like antichrist will speak to achieve his purpose --- talk like you're on their side and push policies that hurt them!

As for the student protesters, if they are denied graduation, its a price they have to pay to stand by their convictions: that life is precious and murder of babies in the mother's womb is an abomination to God.

#65 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-18 01:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

How many people are you and your fellow 'Christians' going to label as the 'antichrist' only to not have it come to fruition before you realize how stupid you sound?

"he's the Antichrist"...nothing happens

"well, then it's HIM, HIM RIGHT THERE, HE'S the Antichrist....nothing happens

"must be THAT GUY THEN! Yup, he's the Antichrist"....nothing happens

I realize that you yourself probably don't even believe half the shit you type but instead, understand that it has the desired affect of painting him as 'evil' in the eyes of your fellow crackpots.

You sound like Chicken Little.

#109... commonsense.... I didn't say obama is antichrist; I said he spoke 'like' antichrist --- who will be so smooth that liberals will embrace him like he's the one.

I said he spoke 'like' antichrist --- who will be so smooth that liberals will embrace him like he's the one.

So the antichrist will be a smooth talker whose silver tongue lets him escape detection... like a televangelist... or a preacher...

TakeIt and Afkababble remind of little as much as mice clawing their way up an elephant's leg intending to commit rape. A few psychiatric misfits repeatedly bad-mouth any leader to left of Tamerlane and darker than Carrie Prejean. President Obama will survive their ugliness, in all probability never know it is there, but goddam! Will someone not tell him that his tent can be TOO friggin' big? herm

#112.... there is cancer in Obama's tent --- he shunned the National Day of Prayer and praised the contribution of Islam to America.

(What has ACLU and Islam in common: they both hate Christianity --- and Obama is timidly nodding from afar)

What do Christianity and Islam have in common?

Uh, the same god...

Zombie... its news to me if you really believe that Islam recognizes Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and only way to the Father (John 14:6; I Timothy 3:16).

Um... did you even bother to respond to my earlier post about the bible being entirely self-referential? Which makes your gratuitous quotation of scripture absolutely worthless.

Let me go fetch it for you.

"The bible says nothing to people who don't already believe in it. Kinda like that island in Pirates of the Carribean that can only be found by people that have already been there."

I'll quote/paraphrase myself again:

Manypaths-

"Wow! You'll fit in nicely here on the right with the other fucking morons."

On what do you base your belief that I'm "on the right"? Because I made a mistake and then acknowledged it?

In your world, acknowledging a mistake makes one a moron?

How old are you?

Zombie, your opinion on the Bible has no value to me, for obvious reasons....

I like Christianity because you can quit and nobody wants to decapitate you.

It is strange that people who don't believe spend so much time and energy worrying.

And then there's the whole Christians wrote the U.S. Constitution thingy, not the Mayans or the Hindus or the Muslims or the Norse.

But that was then, this is now. Now we're just so much more enlightened and reasonable.

"What has ACLU and Islam in common: they both hate Christianity..."

I've been an ACLU member for half a century, long was a chapter board chair. I can assure the author if this that the ACLU could care less about Christianity, is totally neutral to it as long as everyone gets the mandated equal rights. Islam MAY well be the same. herm

And then there's the whole Christians wrote the U.S. Constitution thingy, not the Mayans or the Hindus or the Muslims or the Norse.

How come this stupid right-wing meme has any traction given you can just look up the history of the U.S. Constitution?

And then there's the whole Christians wrote the U.S. Constitution thingy, not the Mayans or the Hindus or the Muslims or the Norse.

Funny, the word "Jesus" doesn't appear anywhere in it, and many of the men who founded this nation were Deists and freemasons (freemasons were among the earliest proponents of ecumenicism and religious tolerance). Use the googles if you doubt this.

I like Christianity because you can quit and nobody wants to decapitate you.

Same goes for a lot of religions... including Islam. It's the fundies that fuck everything up. If they had their way, you'd see christian headchoppers in the US.

Zombie, your opinion on the Bible has no value to me, for obvious reasons....

Wow. I guess taking such an arrogant position conveniently absolves you of addressing any of the flaws I point out in your interpretation of Christianity.

Is this intellectual cowardice, or pure, unadulterated delusion?

#109... commonsense.... I didn't say obama is antichrist; I said he spoke 'like' antichrist --- who will be so smooth that liberals will embrace him like he's the one.

#110 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-18 08:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

You didn't say Obama was the Anti-Christ?

BULLSHIT!!

You're such a fucking liar!

Need proof? How about this post;

Shame on cowardly Georgetown University!
Shame on antichrist Obama!

Posted by takitez at 2009-04-21 11:27 PM | Reply

WOW....debunked in the first post. How about this one;

Obama may be antichrist.... Hitler ordered crosses be taken down in churches: Obama wished the named of Jesus be covered in a recent visit. Shame on you, Obama! (and the liberals have the guts to call him a practicing christian).

Posted by takitez at 2009-04-21 08:37 PM | Reply

This one;

but how long can this last before the nation discovers Obama's handlers who are all in antichrist mode,

Posted by takitez at 2009-04-24 06:25 PM | Reply

How about this gem;

The Democrats are in a biggest power grab in the history of this nation --- and either the spirit of anti-Christ is driving the liberals or Obama is really a closet AC: because the dems are bent on curtailing Christian freedoms. Very scary!

Posted by takitez at 2009-03-27 10:21 PM | Reply

So, you see, your words will follow you on here and you can pretend you didn't say that Obama is the 'AC' but we ALL KNOW YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT!!

I'm done schooling you. Go back to being afraid of everything.

Post #109... I did not call Obama antichrist.... as clear as sunrise.

#127 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-19 12:44 AM

Yes you did.

1 John 1:18-19.... "... many antichrists have come.... they went out from us ... " [Obama and team shunned National Day of Prayer]...

Surely, Obama and team are powerfully influenced by the spirit of antichrist...

#128... at other places I called him that, but not in #109.... I simply likened him to it.

Or maybe your antichrist doesn't exist...

Occam says you need a shave...

Today I discovered something residing deep in the psyche of Zombiehunter: the mention of Islam riles him and makes him to defend Islam.

I must have touched a raw nerve.... hehehehe....

[Obama and team shunned National Day of Prayer]...

We've been over this before,he says he observed it privately.
you know like the bible quoters say Jesus said to do

#132 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-19 12:57 AM

I discovered something in you:

You're a "Christian" who lies when it's suits your purposes. Figures.

#129.... the scripture passage is 1 John 2:18-19.

Exodus 20:16 "Thou shalt not lie".

Oops, Takitez

I have to be perfectly frank with you, Takitez. You got caught in a lie - red handed.

Post #109... I did not call Obama antichrist.... as clear as sunrise.

#127 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-19 12:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

See, now that's what normal people call a 'lie'.

You've called him the anti-Christ on at least several occasions.

So, now onto my original post:
How many people are you and your fellow 'Christians' going to label as the 'antichrist' only to not have it come to fruition before you realize how stupid you sound?

I received many emails the last three elections - all claiming Al Gore, then Kerry, then Obama are the 'antiChrist'.

Fundamental Christians are lunatics who think any Democrat running for President is the 'antiChrist'. Pathetic.

#135... I've been accused of this before....

and I do acknowledge imperfections and imperfect memories.... but in #109 I simply likened Obama to ac.

If you refuse to accept this assertion, then no one can do anything about it: for you have free-will.

I am participating here knowing full well liberals and the godless will band together and attack folks like me. No surprise!

Today I discovered something residing deep in the psyche of Zombiehunter: the mention of Islam riles him and makes him to defend Islam.

The mention of bullshit leads me to call the bullshit for what it is... ask JeffNDenmark.

If you're looking for a glimpse into my psyche, here you go: I think fundamentalists are a plague upon humanity... and people such as myself are a vaccine.

I am participating here knowing full well liberals and the godless will band together and attack folks like me. No surprise!

#140 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-19 01:07 AM

When you tell bald faced lies about what you've said or didn't say and are proven a liar don't expect an ice cream party.

Yes, there are many antichrists out there: then and now! Clearly warned in 1 John 2:18-19.

Many antichrists --- the antichrist will be the last one.

" I am participating here knowing full well liberals and the godless will band together and attack folks like me. No surprise!"

#140 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-19 01:07 AM

I'm a Christian.

To be perfectly frank, you're a liar who calls herself a "Christian" and got caught in a bald faced lie your own posts prove.

Well,we were ready for a Change,LOL

#142... hehehe another self-righteous judge is here who refuses to accept my statement in #127. Hohum....

Takitez

You called Obama antiChrist. Quit lying. You're pathetic and off your rocker too.

#142... hehehe another self-righteous judge is here who refuses to accept my statement in #127

Self righteous describes you to a 'T'. Now you're just parsing. Everyone who's ever spent time in church was taught about THE antiChrist - not LOTS of 'antiChrists'.

Now you're just trying to cover your lie.

I am participating here knowing full well liberals and the godless will band together and attack folks like me. No surprise!

So what do you hope to accomplish? There is an art to persuasion, and if you are looking to "save souls," you should be more aware of it.

My bet is that you are infatuated with yourself- you believe that you possess a true gift in some sort of connection to god and you feel that you are so special that you should foist it off on everyone else...

Is Takitez a woman?

Oh self-righteous and rigid judge Pfrank, in #109 I simply likened Obama to ac.

(In other places I did call Obama ac as he behaved that way --- just as Jesus called Peter Satan when Peter insisted against God's will for Jesus (Matthew 16:23)).

Peter recovered from his folly; so Obama too can recover from his follies.

Peter recovered from his folly; so Obama too can recover from his follies.

But you're too far gone to help.

--- just as Jesus called Peter Satan when Peter insisted against God's will for Jesus

I wouldn't bring this up at the Pearly Gates,If I was you

IIRC The AntiChrist is none other than Satan Himself.

Larry

Actually my original statement is in post #65....

Obama spoke LIKE...

Judges, please meditate on the word 'like' in the sentence.

"Oh self-righteous and rigid judge Pfrank, in #109 I simply likened Obama to ac."

Takitez

I got curious and read your User Blog. You're the most self righteous person I've run across online in several years. How dare you question someone else's Christianity.

Why aren't you out right now ministering to the homeless, praying in a closet, showing some humility - you know, like JESUS CHRIST said to do?

praying in a closet,

Like Carrie had to do

#153: BruceAZ, the Jesus I serve gives all of us chances to recover from all our follies.... and He is kinder than you.

Yes, Larry (#154), The Antichrist is Satan, to be ditinguished from 'many antichrists' spoken in 1 John 2:18-19.

#165... I hope you're doing all that. Great.
I'm also curious if you really know what I've been doing.

ooops #159 is referring to #156, not #165. sorry.

I'm also curious if you really know what I've been doing.

#159 | Posted by takitez

Reading your user blog is an education in how to be a self righteous extremist.

#161...Thank you for your opinion... but folks like you cannot deter me from posting here and be attacked by liberals, godless and people like you.

I guess I'm not good at watering scripture down to be praised by worldly people. I hope you can pray for me on that one.

Wow. What a self righteous post!!

Why don't you get yourself a power drill and claim stigmata? You'd find it equally ineffective and unattractive as your blathering posts are. That's a suggestion from a lifelong Christian.

and He is kinder than you.

but folks like you cannot deter me from posting here and be attacked by liberals, godless and people like you.

Hey, take it easy,I'm sure Jesus doesn't want you to stroke out.

Your rooms not ready yet

Post away

hehehe.... keeps coming....

Listen, if your idea of humility is to stop witnessing altogether in places like this, then I guess I'll take my marching orders from the Chief Shepherd (1 Peter 5:2-7) than opinions like yours.

Witness away,
I have no problems that you have faith,good for you.Type all you want.
If I wasn't enjoying this bantor I would have signed off.

" Listen, if your idea of humility is to stop witnessing altogether in places like this.."

You call what you're doing 'witnessing'? Lunacy.

Calling a President the antiChrist because you don't agree with his politics only serves to make you seem a daft, crazed extremist who'd serve Christianity better by turning off your computer.

PFrank... maybe I have missed all your previous posts... but if your willing to worship Obama morae than Christ, that's your choice. If you're afraid to hurt the feelings of liberals and hide your opinions, that's your choice.

But it looks like we disagree and I'll rest on that --- and continue to post what I feel needed to be expressed.

And BTW, I look forward to seeing some of your superior and heartmoving posts in keeping with your long Christian faith --- such that it will shame me to realize my shortcomings and wish to learn from your wonderful wisdom. Meanwhile, I hope you will not be so offended by my posts to the point of hating me which according to John is tantamount to murder (1 John 2:11).

Nobody worships Obama,But we have great hopes that this nation can straighten this out.

Nobody hates you Job

#169....The scripture verse is 1 John 3:15, not 2:11.

#169....The scripture verse is 1 John 3:15, not 2:11.

Wow,you made a mistake? How can I be sure of anything else now?

So long as I'm declaring the truth (2 Tim. 4:2-4), I don't care if people call me nuts, fundie, or whatever name they can invent --- that is why I am not disappearing from here. Silencing Christian witness by insulting them is a game played very well by the world and many Christians themselves have bought into it. I'm not getting arrested or being stoned for witnessing: what a privilege!

Why, I pray for the nation and I pray even for Obama and his administration; but if some of what they do is in opposition to my beliefs, then I have every right to voice my opinions --- just as others are entitled to disagree with me.

then I have every right to voice my opinions .

Like I said "post away".I even googled all your verses.I've read this whole post and not one person has told you to "STFU".So relax.

OK, Bruce....

I heard a wonderful sermon by Nick Floyd from TV today. Looks like you're in AR. Go listen to him occasionally.

Sorry,I don't know what AR means?

Nick Floyd,I'll check him out for kicks,I'll write it down,getting kinda late.

Arizona=Az

goodnight to you too,I saved your link.

I realized later: AZ =Arizona; AR=Arkansas.

A/C not working at the liberry today?

#96 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

its working about as good as your spell check...hee hee

You are going to have a long wait Bush Lover. That only occured in your little fucking mind.

Hundreds of anti-abortion advocates gathered Sunday at the foot of the Golden Dome for a prayerful protest of President Barack Obama's planned commencement address and honorary law degree.

If Bush Lover is going to continue to post here, RCADE needs to institue a BullShit Flag.

Again, I understand your need to lie Bush Lover but you aren't fooling anyone.

Well, anyone outside the Newbie......

#97 | Posted by Manypaths at 200

oh yeah...lets use numbers from media who dont even mention it in the first place in ANY newscast..
that really makes them reliable doesnt it.
fact remains...there were people there NOT KISSING THE ROYAL BLACK ASS besides jenkins

Wow, a thread centered around the serial abuser of the second commandment (or third, depending on your religion), the anti-Christ Takitez himself. Since this is nowhere near the first time, does this put him in the pantheon of the other great posters who have wound a thread around themselves?

Actually my original statement is in post #65....

Obama spoke LIKE...

Judges, please meditate on the word 'like' in the sentence.

#155 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-19 01:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

When I originally responded to your #65 post, I simply asked;

"How many people are you and your fellow 'Christians' going to label as the 'antichrist' only to not have it come to fruition before you realize how stupid you sound?"

I never said 'IN YOUR #65 POST'. I was simply responding to it because it was the latest in which you use Obama and AC in the same sentence. You see, it's called a 'history' and all of us have one here on the retort. I've seen you type your loony shit before so I asked you the question.

Knowing you have a PROVEN history of calling Obama the AC (not simply likening him to AC), I asked you my original question to you, to which you replied you didn't call him the AC. You tried to play the semantics game for some odd reason.

Face it, you're a liar. It's OK though. I've come to expect nothing less.

#183.... Commonsense... OK, let there be peace. Though some confusion has set in, in your original intention you were not wrong, and in my particular incident I was not wrong.

Be well.

If they had their way, you'd see christian headchoppers in the US.

#124 | Posted by ZombieHunter Flag: BULLSHIT THAT CAN NOT BE BACKED UP WITH ANYTHING IN ANY WAY.

BULLSHIT THAT CAN NOT BE BACKED UP WITH ANYTHING IN ANY WAY

You obviously haven't conversed with Buzzkiller...