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Friday, May 15, 2009

President Barack Obama, calling current deficit spending "unsustainable," warned of skyrocketing interest rates for consumers if the U.S. continues to finance government by borrowing from other countries. "We can't keep on just borrowing from China," Obama said at a town-hall meeting in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, outside Albuquerque. "We have to pay interest on that debt, and that means we are mortgaging our children's future with more and more debt."

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I have seen a large number of posts claiming that the Obamaman seems unaware of the size and potential scope of the national debt. Whether it is meaningful or not, this does establish the fact that he is aware of the possible ramifications of that debt.

Watch out for politicians who accomplish the opposite of what they intend. My gold says he's one of those politicians.

Higher taxes

Hope and change

SUCKERS

Obama: We need $3 trillion in new spending
Obama: Deficit spending unsustainable

Obama: I promise to close Gitmo
Obama: We will be holding our military tribunals at Gitmo

Obama: We will release the photos of prisoner abuse and interrogation
Obama: We will not release the photos

Ad infinitum

#4 | Posted by rightisright

I think Obama's doubletalk is calculated on the premise that people remember what they want to remember, and block out what they don't want to know. There's enough to appeal to both the right and the left.

It boggles my mind how anyone in their right mind can imagine a federal government who has never met a deficit they didn't like, manage the economy. These idiots can't even balance a checkbook.

Obama and his Keynestone Kops are going to spend and borrow and mask and tax and take control of whatever they have to do to keep the illusion going. This is building up to a disaster of biblical proportions.

Yup. And the trillions they're borrowing is going to the least productive industries that have proven themselves to be failures. Automakers, big money-center banks, levered hedge funds, union shops, "green" energy. It's not like he's going on a buying spree to build nuclear power plants or new highways, or stuff that actually would add to the net worth of the country.

Poof. Gone. Hope none of the libbies needed the money.

There is an 800 lb gorilla in the room. Obama not only pointed it out he's feeding it your lunch and setting it up with your daughter.

His prelude to hiking the taxes [and not just on the rich].

His prelude to hiking the taxes [and not just on the rich].

#8 | Posted by MSgt

BUT....BUT... He Said he was going to lower our taxes......You MMMMean Obama Lied.....To get elected and what he said to Joe the plumber was true?

"Whether it is meaningful or not, this does establish the fact that he is aware of the possible ramifications of that debt."

Who cares if he's aware of it? We're all aware of it. Whether he plans to do anything about it is what's important.

I do believe Obama came up with the quote for 2009 on this one.

Plus St Louis will lose about 30,000 jobs after cutting the defense budget but I am sure there will be plenty of shovels for those "shovel ready jobs" where the newly unemployed can shovel Obama's shit.

www.ksdk.com

Spoken like a true Republican

His prelude to hiking the taxes [and not just on the rich]. - #8

"hiking taxes" = Economic Justice, its about time, Oprah got hers, we want ours!

"I have seen a large number of posts claiming that the Obamaman seems unaware of the size and potential scope of the national debt. Whether it is meaningful or not, this does establish the fact that he is aware of the possible ramifications of that debt."

In my opinion, he wants to cause inflation on some scale. Helps out everyone who overspent or otherwise squandered their money - people, businesses and government.

It screws over everyone who had nothing to do with creating our problem - people who lived within their means and saved some bucks. But fuck them, right?

Of course, to think that he can control the situation once the ball starts rolling is very arrogant.....

As for higher taxes - If you ever voted for Bush or Obama you have no right to complain. These are the fuckers who spent our money carelessly. When you spend you have to pay.

You put them in office. Be grownup and live the consequences of your decision. I never voted for either of them and even I understand that reality that higher taxes are going to be necessary.

HMMMMMMMMMMMM has THE PUPPET gone rogue or did the teleprompter crap out again?

WOW!

All this talk of alleged 'Tax Hikes' and you rightards commence Operation Frothing Circe Jerk.

Could you at least stick with facts......this one time. Try it.

No shit Barry.

Ummmm, so why spend all this fucking money?


Which do you fear more, in general: Big Givernment or Big Business?

your obama incentive to work tax cut has already bit the dust in 2010 dems.need the money for more important matters.you will have to pay that back at the end of the year.your tax liability was not lowered,obama just loaned you a couple of bucks a week till tax time.

Obama, calling current deficit spending "unsustainable," warned of skyrocketing interest rates for consumers if the U.S. continues to finance government by borrowing from other countries. "We can't keep on just borrowing from China,"

No shit sherlock.

Where did you get that first clue?

Thimmy?

#16 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

If you do not think there will be a tax hike that effects EVERYONE, you are blind.

Which do you fear more, in general: Big Givernment or Big Business?

#19 | Posted by Spielmannsfluch

Big Givernment

the man has a set of balls to get up there and talk that shit like he means it.

You all might call me a troll but for you Bush Haters... watch the link... it seems the previous administration warned of the imending crisis and the Dems didnt want nothing to do with it...

Now er get spend, spend, spend... you watch and you judge!

www.youtube.com

it would also seem i can't spell today... my apologies...

Libs don't work off of facts, they work off of hate.

This is building up to a disaster of biblical proportions.

#5 | Posted by Ray at 2009-05-15 09:13 AM

Odd you'd use that term. Or is it?

Then don't allow GM to make cars in China!

They will sell GMs at Harbor Freight soon.

Which do you fear more, in general: Big Givernment or Big Business?

#19 | Posted by Spielmannsfluch at 2009-05-15 06:32 PM

There's a difference?

I really think if you look a little harder (which isn't hard at all) they're one in the same, interchangeable.

People delude themselves to believe that de-regulation occured when in fact there's more regulation than ever before.

Shrewd businessmen, just like other mobsters, learned long, long, long ago that there's more money in making politicans than being one. And politicians learned long, long, long ago that there's more perks to being a politican than trying to compete with the mob.

Business = Government Government = Business.

There's hasn't been truly free enterprise in this country since the pilgrims landed. It's never been tried. Never.

So Barry agrees with the tea party people about his reckless government spending?

Is it true the very first victims of the French Guillotine were politicians?

Don't laugh - history alwasy seems to find a way to repeat itself.

The Real Obama is Rising:BIG BANKS Don't Need China they can easily Depend (Feed Off & Drain) the U.S.Taxpayers!

So just what exactly did Obama think when he was handing over $Trillions in Taxpayer money to "Bail_Out" his Wall St. pals in AIG and the Big Banks???
As usual its the American Taxpayers who are "Required" to have fiscal responsibility and be fully accountable for their debts but not Wall St.and the Big Banks!!! Obama is truly a Whore's Whore!!!

When are you dumbass Americans going to realize a simple truth: Right, Left, Bush, Obama, they're ALL the fucking same... Republicans, Democrats, they are BOTH systematically fucking you over, BOTH OF THEM.

BOTH OF THEM.

Get over yourselves. Get over this left-right paradigm BULLSHIT. Get over your childish "loyalty" to your precious "party". Grow up. Grow a pair. Get over their brainwashing tactics, or else...

...this is - this moment in time, right here and right now - beginning the end of the United States.

WAKE THE FUCK UP NOW.

Only one way to handle this. Increase spending to accelerate the point at which the crisis makes it unsustainable.

Don't worry. Even Wall St. and the Big Banks will fall. They're on life support now, commanded to continue "social lending."

By the way, the AIG bailout did not bail out AIG. AIG insured "bad loans," so AIG was just a conduit through which money was funneled to improvident lenders. Otherwise "the loans" to lenders would have been far more apparent and possibly subjected to greater public scrutiny - for all the impact that would have had.

Right now you're in "the screwing" phase. Wait until you have the baby, inflation, and then wait for the post-parturition period.

This clown, Obama, is taking us down the path that Mugabe took Zimbabwe. Mugabe transferred productive farms to his followers, who didn't have a clue as to how to operate them. So, a country that had been the breadbasket of sub-Saharan Africa instead suffered starvation and the new managers didn't know how to use the productive capacity.

In the U.S., the Obama politicians and ideologues and academics are gaining control of industries and grossly reducing their productivity. The only things these folks have ever run are their mouths. Remember what happened in the Stalinist USSR, when the kulaks were driven off the land. There was mass starvation there too.

It's happening here. Our productive capacity is being compromised. Our banks and securities firms which engaged in improvident high risk lending, have not been allowed to fail, but have been bailed out and sustained rather than being reformed through the bankruptcy process. The second tier banks could readily have replaced them and would have had far greater liquidity without the massive infusion of cash by the feds.

The automobile companies have been "rescued," but have ceased to exist as they are now just artifacts maintained to support union members. It's another funnel where they are paid without producing anything, so the value of the currency is being further diluted.

FDR screwed up from 1932 to WWII without providing a reprieve, but somehow was adept at maintaining that it remained "a Hoover Depression." How long will Obama be excused for his screw-ups, bad policy, bad strategy, bad tactics?

What did hatemonger Rev. Wright say? "God damn America. Well, now Rev. Wright, who provided mentoring for Obama, sees his plan implemented with America being damned through Obama.

#32 | Posted by BENDOR at 2009-05-15 11:46 PM

Don't laugh - history alwasy seems to find a way to repeat itself.

Are you suggesting guillotine blades might be a good investment? Who manufactures them now?

Hmmm cutting defense spending .. how is spending 20-30 billion MORE on defense than last year a cut exactly ?? It's not as big an increase as McSame would've done ... but still it's not a cut.

The Poser BHOrangatan setting himself up to deny his proprietary blame....pretending concern, after major fuckups....just like the "torture" picture fiasco.

Its Orangutan dippy. And it means "people of the forest" in Bahasa Indonesia.

Obama: Current Debt Spending 'Unsustainable'

This dumbfuck man-child has a carefully calculated reason for dramatically stating an economic truth he has heretofore pretended didn't exist.

I can't quite comprehend what it might be.

But then again, the Republic has never been hostage to the "leadership" of an entity who inherently despises it.

Interesting times.

When are you dumbass Americans going to realize a simple truth: Right, Left, Bush, Obama, they're ALL the fucking same... Republicans, Democrats, they are BOTH systematically fucking you over, BOTH OF THEM.

BOTH OF THEM.

Get over yourselves. Get over this left-right paradigm BULLSHIT. Get over your childish "loyalty" to your precious "party". Grow up. Grow a pair. Get over their brainwashing tactics, or else...

...this is - this moment in time, right here and right now - beginning the end of the United States.

WAKE THE FUCK UP NOW.

#34 | Posted by Apocalypto at 2009-05-16 12:29 AM

Too late.

The "Obama can do no wrong" crowd is following the "Bush can do no wrong" crowd. Meanwhile, third parties are still considered meaningless pipe dreams.

Interesting times.

#40 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2009-05-16 01:09 AM

That's really deep, man. Thanks.

Two sure fire solutions:
1. Legalize pot.
2. Tax the shit out of rich assholes.

President Barack Obama, calling current deficit spending "unsustainable," warned of skyrocketing interest rates for consumers if the U.S. continues to finance government by borrowing from other countries.

LOL

How classic!

So now the Obama sheeple are wondering if this fool is Chuck Barris or Jim Jones.

The ones that continue to follow think he is Jim Jones. Those that don't will think he is Chuck Barris. They don't believe enough to follow but just interested enough to tune in to the show.

Hope and change for people with no convictions.

Meanwhile, third parties are still considered meaningless pipe dreams.

Parties are about power.

And there's two parties.

You either believe in life, liberty, freedom, the primacy of the individual, economic freedom, and the continuation of the American Dream.

Or you believe in statism, subservience, collectivism, cowardice, and a sense of national self-loathing and cultural relativism that tends to be mistaken for "intellect".

"Parties" are the imperfect entities to which we hitch our wagons of ideology, and right now, the contrast in those ideologies has never been more stark.

"Third parties" are luxuries in political environments for which most major questions have been solved.

The cultural and political apathy created by the economic prowess of the United States has created a "perfect storm" whereby one of the most unqualified and radical Leftist pieces of shit in American history has been allowed to take power.

The result is a fucking child playing with Bolshevik Legos in the form of the most powerful economy mankind has ever known---constructing, de-constructing, and tinkering with a reality he knows nothing about.

When a cancer threatens to kill you and disrupt life as you've always lived it, you singularly focus one one thing and one thing only...a cure.

Not an "herbal" cure.

Not a "chemical" cure.

You just need to kill the cancer to survive.

Its the same thing with political parties.

As long as an inherently anti-American, Marxist bag of hard-left shit like Barack Hussein Obama can steward American public policy, there can be no other "party" for an American Patriot to subscribe to other than an inchoate alliance of those who are dedicated to undermining and destroying this absolutely horrific administration.

This must never happen again.

#16 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

If you do not think there will be a tax hike that effects EVERYONE, you are blind.

#22 | Posted by chickenrancher at 2009-05-15 07:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ummmm.....ok. As long as we can still say Obama cut taxes even if he actually raises them. Ya know, like Ronald Reagan.

Deal?

#45 | Posted by jak_se_mao at 2009-05-16 02:26 AM
I love the intensity. I'd be right there gung ho for that shiz, if the party in opposition had a tiny modicum of respectability.

Anyone see "Shooter" where Ned Beatty describes actual reality, saying there's really no governments, no party's, etc; Only "haves" & "have not's"?

I see everyone bantering about the dominoes falling, but no one talking about the first domino.

It's about power, & it really doesn't take a Nostradamus to see this.

If we connect the dots, our current oil based World economy started with Standard Oil's beginning.
I believe they foresaw the point of diminishing returns from the get-go, which was why W (big oil) was *unfairly* ushered into the White House, along with pals Cheney & Rove (architect).

So...Let's say they decided the point of diminishing returns had past & they had to come up with a new plan for an other than oil based World economy.

I believe this is what is happening. We can point, blame, argue, etc about the way the dominoes are falling, but it doesn't matter. Fall they will, every last one of them.

When the dust is settled, the planet will resemble ancient Egypt; One ruling family, & the rest peasants.

calling current deficit spending "unsustainable," warned of skyrocketing interest rates for consumers if the U.S. continues to finance government by borrowing from other countries. "We can't keep on just borrowing from China," Obama said . . . and that means we are mortgaging our children's future with more and more debt."
Posted by IraqiBukkake

many have overlooked the obvious . . . it's simple really

the teleprompter accidentally mixed one of Rush's transcripts that the staff was critiquing into Barry's speech text . . . he just reads what is there

aka:the gang that couldn't shoot straight

Looks like Obama has been watching Fox News. He didn't get this info from his Dem economic advisors.

Eight years of stone cold silent allegiance from Rethuglicans, while Shrub doubles the national debt, kills a million, leaving a trail of devastation from halfway around the world to our very own shores. A born loser, everything he touches turns to shit. Worse, he turns a blind eye to the impacts of massive accounting fraud beginning with Enron and apparently still ongoing at CitiCorp and plenty of other institutions. Countrywide, absorbed by BofA, probably involuntarily under Paulson, dwarfs Fannie and Freddie. Shrub refuses to adjust policies as one calamity follows another. His boy, Christopher Cox, stops any and every investigation of major donors. After the Rethuglicans depart, everything comes unraveled and a $350 billion money trail and prosecutions remain stymied. Rethuglicans organize their talking points to blame everything on Frank and Dobb. Ignore 94% of the problem and focus on the 6%. As every good Nazi understands, advertising budgets can do wonders.

Whether it is meaningful or not, this does establish the fact that he is aware of the possible ramifications of that debt.

#1 | Posted by keith204 at 2009-05-14 09:

bullshit.....it proves he is a fucking liar who is now trying to get out of it.

and lets not lose sight of one reason why this all has taken place.

HURRY HURRY HURRY

the republic will fold if we dont give my 'boys' a ZILLION dollars by tomorrow...SO DONT READ IT>.JUST SIGN ON TO IT

and he is trying to do the same god damned thing with health care.......

"We've got to get it done this year......the stars are aligned.."

barak obama

nut....what a pile of dung.......there isnt as much horse shit at the preakness today as there is in your post.....

SILENT ALLEGIANCE ...my ass.......

shrub doubling the debt is a problem..obama QUADRUPLING IT ISNT........more horseshit.

no mention of lives saved in africa or people being freed from dictators and taliban.........figures.

ENRON...are you kidding...kidstuff compared to the shit thanks to franks and rich and johnson and goerlick

and as every good nazi understands..you must silence your critics.....being done as we speak

and barney....your boy said yesterday or day before that WE MUST BAIL OUT CALIFORNIA even though its thier OWN FUCKIN FAULT for going under and why??

because its run by democrats JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER STATE IN TROUBLE while we in Texas have a 6.5 BILLION dollar surplus and a republican majority and the two going together is NOT A CO INCIDENCE........

"'what's the logic for it even in the near term except as a way of rewarding longstanding political allies?"

Well, its the beginning of the pitch for economic justice to be served on your paycheck. He could not have said this until AFTER, he had his budget.

I posed this "sustainability" issue to the DR, and the answer is more taxes.

I believe he is laying the ground work for more taxes.

"I believe he is laying the ground work for more taxes."

So what was Bush doing when he was amassing huge deficits?

dan....

come on
its time for your side to give it up. there is no way any of us from the right can defend the spending of bush and plenty of us were screaming this

HE SPENDS TOO MUCH FUCKIN MONEY AND NEEDS TO FIND HIS VETO PEN.

but again.....that is simply no excuse to do what obama is doing.
when Im at the track and I lose a 100 bucks, it is ALWAYS disastor to spend another 100 trying to get that original 100 back....my point being that bad money chases good money NEVER WORKS.....
OKAY so Im still not being as clear as I want but maybe you get it........

THIS IS OBAMAS ECONOMY and its time for you and your leftists cultist to start accepting that.

"THIS IS OBAMAS ECONOMY"

Not to anyone who ever took an Macroeconomics class. Oh...and passed it.

I DIDNT fail it..

you cant fail something to didnt take.
I wasnt in position to take a nerdy class on numbers and with accountants.
there werent enough halter tops and short shorts as there was in the music department. I mean come on.. there are 'priorities' you know.......

AFKABL2,

Obama acknowledges the trouble we're in. Spending on infrastructure makes a helluva lot more sense than vaporizing Iraq. That said, I voted for Nader because our two party system is a fucking crime in progress.

Listening to all the financial sector fuckwads tell us how there's "no money for that" whenever it might benefit ordinary people, then write multi-trillion dollar checks for fraudsters exposing LIES, LIES LIES. Where did all that money come from all of a sudden??????? For unnecessary war and bailouts????? All a total fucking waste.

That said, please Texas, secede. You are a heartless, corrupt, polluted, intellectual wasteland of chain gangs and dust. You can have your revivalist tents, your class driven seperatist society, your fucking football teams, and oil wells that Rockefeller pumped dry in forty years to become the richest man in the world.

Eight years of stone cold silent allegiance from Rethuglicans, while Shrub doubles the national debt, kills a million . . .
A born loser . . . fraud beginning with Enron . . .
Rethuglicans organize their talking points to blame everything on Frank and Dobb.
#52 | Posted by nutcase at
"blame everything on Frank and Dobb" - - you are nutts - - Fwank will go down (no pun intended)

nutcase is a primo reason for voting tests

Priceless: Obama is warning American about his own budget and this nations historic borrowing under his young administration. Good grief, we are only just over 3 months in and he is wrecking this country. Over 3 and 1/2 years of destruction to go. Can't wait to see him "fix" medical care like he did the auto industry rescue!!! Oh, I forgot he failed with the automakers as bankruptcy looms for GM and massive collapse of the dealerships around the nation.

"The President's budget will create more gross debt in ten years than every other U.S. President in history combined."

coralvillecourier.typepad.com

""The President's budget will create more gross debt in ten years than every other U.S. President in history combined.""

Same with Dubya...except, of course, for the newfound Republican disdain for deficits.

Same with Dubya...except, of course, for the newfound Republican disdain for deficits.

#64 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-05-17 12:53 AM

I have to wonder if Danforth approves of all the unsustainable spending, since he keeps deflecting back to republicans, who are now out of power.

Republicans were horrible on spending, and pretty much everything else. Republicans were worse on fiscal discipline than democrats. Yet, O'tards like Danforth keep deflecting even as Obama acknowledges a problem.

"I have to wonder if Danforth approves of all the unsustainable spending"

Wonder no longer. I disapprove of all unsustainable spending, regardless of the letters after the perpetrators' names.

"O'tards like Danforth keep deflecting..."

I'm just stunned that so many Republicans have suddenly discovered the horrors of deficit spending.

I'm just stunned that so many Republicans have suddenly discovered the horrors of deficit spending.

#66 | Posted by Danforth

It is stunning, isn't it? Their hypocrisy on the matter may be the thing that enables the other side to get away with it.

"Their hypocrisy on the matter may be the thing that enables the other side to get away with it."

I've said several times the worst thing the Republicans did to the country was leave us with all Democratic majorities.

The bush deficit was sustainable. The Obama deficit is unsustainable. Go Bush!

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