"The difference between these Republican videos and the very terrorist propaganda that seeks to damage our society is negligible," Clark said. "Each attempt to stoke the embers of fear in order to disrupt American life. Just as Al Qaeda videos should be viewed as misguided rants from a small group of marginalized radicals, so too should these Republican videos be equally dismissed.

As opposed to what the GOP thinks, the American people are not that naive."

At the very least one would hope the American people have learned. The last two elections would indicate that has happened.

man he's got balls - - -
with all due respect Zap, Al Qaeda etc gained big-time strength under Clarke's watch . .
his view was - -

a) that we should simply "turn the other cheek" to their worldwide attacks on US citizens, soldiers, & US & western interests

b) if we ignored them, they would eventually come to tolerate "western culture" and assimilate and join in

we saw how well that worked on Sept 11

once more the left uses anti fear to gain points with people who are uninformed or too stupid to know of all the times these same people have used fear to thier advantage when in fact all this video does is remind us what could happen increasingly more with every passing day of this administration.

Typical shitty Republican tactics is all. Hell look at Dubya's first campaign advertisement. Flag draped coffin out of the WTC. Rotten Slimeballs one and all.

Larry

"once more the left uses anti fear to gain points with people who are uninformed or too stupid to know of all the times these same people have used fear to thier advantage when in fact all this video does is remind us what could happen increasingly more with every passing day of this administration.

#3 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-05-09 11:28 AM | Reply | Flag: I WANT SOME OF WHAT HE'S SMOKING

his view was - -
a) that we should simply "turn the other cheek" to their worldwide attacks on US citizens, soldiers, & US & western interests
b) if we ignored them, they would eventually come to tolerate "western culture" and assimilate and join in
we saw how well that worked on Sept 11

LOL Link?

The National Security Archive today posted the widely-debated, but previously unavailable, January 25, 2001, memo from counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke to national security advisor Condoleezza Rice - the first terrorism strategy paper of the Bush administration. The document was central to debates in the 9/11 hearings over the Bush administration's policies and actions on terrorism before September 11, 2001.

Clarke's memo requests an immediate meeting of the National Security Council's Principals Committee to discuss broad strategies for combating al-Qaeda by giving counterterrorism aid to the Northern Alliance and Uzbekistan, expanding the counterterrorism budget and responding to the U.S.S. Cole attack.

Despite Clarke's request, there was no Principals Committee meeting on al-Qaeda until September 4, 2001.

You can lead a Bush / Rice to water but you can't make them drink..

once more the left uses anti fear to gain points with people who are uninformed or too stupid to know of all the times these same people have used fear to thier advantage when in fact all this video does is remind us what could happen increasingly more with every passing day of this administration.

Let me get this correct, you were actually a teacher?

thanks for the link . .

soo Bush got burned because he ignored Clarke for 8 months - - while Clinton who ignored Clarke for 8 years dodged that bullet

Clinton, who went after Al Qaeda and was accused of 'wagging the dog', or Clinton who caught and convicted every party responsible for the planning and carrying out of the 1993 WTC bombing two months into his term?

Where are Bin Laden and Zawahiri? Clinton chased the mastermind of the 1993 attack all the way to Pakistan to arrest him and bring him to justice.

Or Clinton, who established the Al Qaeda desk - which Bush disbanded during the runup to war with Iraq?

soo Bush got burned because he ignored Clarke for 8 months - - while Clinton who ignored Clarke for 8 years dodged that bullet

Err.

Bush has overwhelming support after 9/11. Perhaps, later, he would have come under scrutiny. I doubt that it would have been as bad as it has turned out had he not squandered the support to wage war with a country that was no threat to us.

"Fuck man, Iraqis piloted those planes,man. Sadaam was behind it all!!!"

-Dumbfuck Republitards

Just as Al Qaeda videos should be viewed as misguided rants from a small group of marginalized radicals, so too should these Republican videos be equally dismissed.

Wooo000OOOT!

Aw yeah, dats wot Spud's talking 'bout!

Can eye gets an Oh Snap up in this mutha fucka?

"Fuck man, Iraqis piloted those planes,man. Sadaam was behind it all!!!" -Dumbfuck Republitards" #13 | Posted by LetUsPrey

Good God man! Get a grip! Your statement is only a lie created by the left to spark outrage. If you are going to be a tool at least be a sane tool. You probably need to cease getting your blood pressure riled up as well. Also you should stop slobbering as you spit out derogatory name-calling to people unknown.

Let me get this correct, you were actually a teacher?

#7 | Posted by Zap at

yes but we count to 4 and then start over and my music writer program will print the music as published and my assistants did all the computer work
its called good exective leadership..

and here is the bottom line for this
republicans arent trying to make people afraid of this happening.
they are trying to prevent this from happening and if you spent time watching cspan for instance you could tell that.

this doesnt mean that I wish it but

one terrorists attack and the OBAMA ORGASMA-THON IS OVER!

one terrorists attack and the OBAMA ORGASMA-THON IS OVER!

Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-05-10 02:54 PM | Reply

Sure You do BLT or else You wouldn't be reposting it over and over again.

Larry

one terrorists attack and the OBAMA ORGASMA-THON IS OVER!

Cos after one terrorist attack the Bush Orgasmathon was over?

Yer such a tard, Babbler.

If there's another attack you wingnuts who wouldn't like Obama even if he actually was the messiah will prolly not change yer wee pea brains but the vast majority of more rational people will do the same thing for Obama as they did fer Bush when 9/11 occured, which is too say increase their support for him.

Yer understanding of even basic human psychology is woefully lacking to the point of being practically non-existant.

Sad is that.

Funny too.

Be Well.

they are trying to prevent this from happening and if you spent time watching cspan for instance you could tell that.
this doesnt mean that I wish it but
one terrorists attack and the OBAMA ORGASMA-THON IS OVER!

The Bush Presidency

9/12/01 Thru 1/20/09

~AKA Revisionist Historian......

soo Bush got burned because he ignored Clarke for 8 months - - while Clinton who ignored Clarke for 8 years dodged that bullet

Not according to Clarke...

Any luck on a link to your #2

repubs are cowards enough said.

republicans arent trying to make people afraid of this happening.
they are trying to prevent this from happening and if you spent time watching cspan for instance you could tell that.

this doesnt mean that I wish it but

one terrorists attack and the OBAMA ORGASMA-THON IS OVER!

#17 | Posted by afkabl2

Aflac, you pray for an attack on a major American city every night. Most Rushpublicans do. Look at John Bolton, praying for Chicago to be nuked.

The Right has never put country before party, except as an excuse to attack the Dems, or raise money. To them patriotism is just the same as anti-abortion. Just a marketing tool to sucker the mouth breathers.

To the teabags, chickenhawks!

this doesnt mean that I wish it but
one terrorists attack and the OBAMA ORGASMA-THON IS OVER!
#17 | Posted by afkabl2

"Wish," maybe not. But "hope"? Perhaps. It would fit right into the dementeds' heatedly apocalyptic, Boshian vision wherein they and they alone really understand what's going on.

"Thousands of Americans tragically died that day, and for the GOP to think it can win elections by denigrating their memory is disgraceful."
* * * *

Maybe winning elections isn't the point, Dick. But I thought the issue of Gitmo was already settled. During the campaign, Obama said he would close it. So I can only assume that he already has.

" During the campaign, Obama said he would close it. So I can only assume that he already has."

#25 | POSTED BY RIGHTISRIGHT AT 2009-05-10

YEAH!

Cause "fifty years to judge" really means Less than 130 days --- in office!

Sincerely

Rightisridiculous

So I can only assume that he already has.

#25 | Posted by rightisright

You know what they say about using the word "assume".

Obama

There ain't gonna be no other attack, unless the nation's right wing stages it, just as there was no attack by a foreign power on 9/11/01 - and that doesn't even go into whether Bushies staged it all (a great case can be made) or it was merely a buncha irate Saudis protesting Israeli occupation of Palestine. Afkababble and other wingnuts accusing The Good Guys of using fear takes chutzpah just about as far as it can go. herm

"This video and the recent Republican attacks on Guantanamo are more desperate attempts from a demoralized party to politicize national security and the safety of the American people," said Clarke

All we have to fear is fear itself. ~FDR

The United Sheeple of America must be scairdy of the mooselem boogeyman! ~GOP

once more the left uses anti fear to gain points with people who are uninformed or too stupid to know of all the times these same people have used fear to thier advantage when in fact all this video does is remind us what could happen increasingly more with every passing day of this administration.

#3 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-05-09 11:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

"uses anti fear"......Damn, you truly are a silly person. How DARE they not try to scare people into voting for them!!!

"all this video does is remind us what could happen increasingly more with every passing day of this administration."

........all while ignoring the fact that IT DID HAPPEN with the prior administration and yet you celebrate them every chance you get.

Silly, sad man.

The video culminates with the something along the lines of "How does closing Gitmo make us safer?"

Meanwhile, although having successfully flashed several scary images to the tune of a super-scury track, the GOP failed to intelligently demonstrate how exactly closing gitmo will make us NOT safer...

Maybe (jost maybe?) the most powerful military in the world can handle a prisoner transport mission? And we can use re-allocated gitmo funding to bild cage here?

Scary pics... or forming an intelligent argument... it's easy to see what kind of people the right is pandering to with this type of content...

al Qaeda agent Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri, Ramzi Yousef, Zacarias Moussaoui, and Richard Reid are all in America. If the moronic Right, especially people like Kit Bond and Cheney, or anyone else that thinks SuperMax prisons can't do the job, they're more than idiots. They're fear mongering assholes. They should be run out of Government in the next Election if not sooner.

They know that Obama's financial recovery plan is doomed to fail, because it is the plan they initiated and understand. They are creating an alternative reality, based on Machevillian principals, to regain power, so they can be at the head of the feed trough. They have no intention of ever fixing anything. Their only interest is in stealing more. I certainly hope they fail.

soo Bush got burned because he ignored Clarke for 8 months - - while Clinton who ignored Clarke for 8 years dodged that bullet

#9 | Posted by markh

Makes senst to me.

Gotta hold onto that old "party of fear" brand and see if it can't wash away the new "party of no" brand.

Aflac, you pray for an attack on a major American city every night. Most Rushpublicans do. Look at John Bolton, praying for Chicago to be nuked.

The Right has never put country before party, except as an excuse to attack the Dems, or raise money. To them patriotism is just the same as anti-abortion. Just a marketing tool to sucker the mouth breathers.

To the teabags, chickenhawks!

#23 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-05-10 05

and all of you who are trying to make it seem like I am hoping for an attack can eat shit and save some for tomorrow....????

and north...someone must have gotten your goat earlier for you to be so jim romish this thread

all while ignoring the fact that IT DID HAPPEN with the prior administration and yet you celebrate them every chance you get.

Silly, sad man.

#30 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009

THATS RIGHT>..

hey how about using some of your moniker for just a moment

so bush is sworn in jan of 2001 and the terrorists go threw with this elaborate attack on sept 11 ...what just out of the blue......or they knew bush was going to be there and not algore??

please........you are certainly intelligent enough to know about how the terrorists were at war with us long before 9/11 when BJ was there scaring the interns.......

so bush is sworn in jan of 2001 and the terrorists go threw with this elaborate attack on sept 11 ...what just out of the blue......or they knew bush was going to be there and not algore??

please........you are certainly intelligent enough to know about how the terrorists were at war with us long before 9/11 when BJ was there scaring the interns.......

#37 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-05-11 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

So then why are you saying ".....when in fact all this video does is remind us what could happen increasingly more with every passing day of this administration."

You're now saying it could have happened to anyone all while trying to imply that it somehow Obama is creating an the perfect conditions for anther attack?

Which is it?

and that doesn't even go into whether Bushies staged it all (a great case can be made) - HERM

Wait, I thought this was HERM the baby killer not tinfoilbob.

The Good Guys - you can't possibly be referring to the same guys who will have to borrow nearly 50 cents for every dollar it spends this year, exploding the record federal deficit past $1.8 trillion under new White House estimates.