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Wednesday, May 06, 2009

A home-schooled 16-year-old in North Carolina was arrested by FBI agents in February and is being held without charge in Indiana after authorities alleged that a bomb threat was made from an IP address in his home. A federal judge has put a gag order on the case that prevents the U.S. attorney in Indiana or FBI from commenting on the detention of Ashton Lundeby, 16. "We have no rights under the Patriot Act," said his mother Annette Lundeby. "It wasn't intended to drag your barely 16-year-old, 120-pound son out in the middle of the night on a charge that we can't even defend."

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Obama's fault! Oh, wait......

"There were no bomb-making materials, not even a blasting cap, not even a wire," Lundeby said.

"Blasting caps"? Hmmmmmmmmm.....I think we may have the right person after all.

Seriously though, this is bullshit that the parents can't even talk to him. This was always a crime and now, because Americans would rather lay down and let people tell them that this is 'good for them', this is somehow a worse crime than before?

Pure overreaction. A simple arrest would have sufficed without all the dramatics and secretive bullshit that followed.

Gotta crack down on these religious extremists

Pure overreaction. A simple arrest would have sufficed without all the dramatics and secretive bullshit that followed.

Chill. It's North Carolina. The kid is obviously one of those stupid, inbred, undereducated, redneck, racists that you lefties say populate red states. Be glad there is one less of them on the street.

Chill. It's North Carolina. The kid is obviously one of those stupid, inbred, undereducated, redneck, racists that you lefties say populate red states. Be glad there is one less of them on the street.

#4 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Speaking of undereducated, pot meet kettle.
Nice stereotype Goat.

We have no rights under the Patriot Act," said his mother Annette Lundeby.

Wanna bet she voted straight party ticket GOP and loved Dubya?

Poor sluggo. Missed the sarcasm completely.

Make sure your wireless router is secure. WEP IS NO LONGER SECURE!

Could be a setup? Ones router ignorance could cost them years with the Patriot Act.

I thought it was odd that they cited the PATRIOT Act given that making bomb threats has always been a crime, and that the PATRIOT Act deals largely with surveillance and not detention. Sure enough...

The boy's mother, Annette Lundeby, has even acknowledged in interviews that her son has been formally charged, has a court-appointed attorney, and has already made several appearances in front of a judge. No military tribunals here. On Alex Jones, Lundeby seemed to more-or-less admit that the USA PATRIOT connection was something she dreamed up on her own.
www.wired.com

It's just a simple bomb threat.
No big whoop - total overreaction.
Who hasn't made hollow threats of murdering
persons with a bomb via the internet?

Be Well.

On Alex Jones, Lundeby seemed to more-or-less admit that the USA PATRIOT connection was something she dreamed up on her own.
www.wired.com

#9 | Posted by JOE

Why is that not a surprise?

Oh! Alex Jones.....I get it.

"If Alex Jones said it, it's gotta be true"

Li'l jeffy

That kid's haircut is a misdemeanor all by itself.

"Chill. It's North Carolina. The kid is obviously one of those stupid, inbred, undereducated, redneck, racists that you lefties say populate red states. Be glad there is one less of them on the street."

GoatTroll, it's now a blue state. They voted for Obama, kicked out that Dole bitch and RTP has one of the highest concentration of PHDs (mostly liberals) in the US.

Shit GoatTroll get your bachelors and you'll be on the road to becoming a liberal.

GoatTroll, it's now a blue state. They voted for Obama, kicked out that Dole bitch and RTP has one of the highest concentration of PHDs (mostly liberals) in the US.

My bad. Shit. This is a travsty, then. Free that lib and hang whoever put him there!

Shit GoatTroll get your bachelors and you'll be on the road to becoming a liberal.

That's why I chose not to graduate. I didn't want to dumb down.

That's why I chose not to graduate. I didn't want to dumb down.

No need to worry GoatTroll you'll always be stuck on stupid

No need to worry GoatTroll you'll always be stuck on stupid

Probably so. Oh well.

"If Alex Jones said it, it's gotta be true"

Last time I spoke with Alex he was sure the moon rose in the West.

I've known crickets who were smarter than Alex.

Liberals don't care so long as Obama is doing it. ACLU is hiding....

Bomb threats have always been illegal whether or not there was a Patriot Act.

The liberals made a huge deal about the Democrat. Now the liberal Democrats have contol of both chambers of Congress and the President is a liberal Democrat, why haven't they repealed it if the act was so horrible?

Liberals are so full of crap. They know this Act is needed but only used it for political purposes during an election.

I love comments from folks all in a snit about "Liberals" when they work for the state.

UTASTUFFED-you want some cheese with that whine?

Or would you rather we call a waaaaaaahhhmbulance for you?

UTASTUFFED-you want some cheese with that whine?

Or would you rather we call a waaaaaaahhhmbulance for you?

Where does frank55 come up with these zingers?

I've known crickets who were smarter than Alex.

#19 | Posted by Zatoichi

Hell-I've had dead raccoons in my back yard that were smarter than him-AFTER they died.

What?
You want a wahmbulance too, goatee?

Technically speaking, isn't a dead raccoon BEFORE it dies just a raccoon, so there is no need to clarify you are speaking of the dead raccoon after death as it is already specified.

You want us to call a wahmbulance for you too, goatee?

You want us to call a wahmbulance for you too, goatee?

I'll decline. I'll use vehicles that were conceived of in this century.

So a solar powered wahmbulance hybrid then?

So a solar powered wahmbulance hybrid then?

I can't decide if that's a funny flag or newsworthy flag.

I can't say...I am biased in this.

The nazification act continues.

#31 | Posted by goatman

If the glove fits you must flag.

rwd

The nazification act continues.

This thread is officially Godwin'd.
- NaziHunter

What does Alex Jones have to do with this story?
Oh yeah... nothing.
He sure must threaten some peoples comfort bubble. I guess I must threaten their comfort bubble to, since morons like Goatflop have launch personal attacks for no reason on every thread.

If he didn't do it he will be cleared.

The gag order is very telling.

You know the little twerp probably DID do it, but he is now just another jihadist under the Patriot Act. The whole thing was soooo short sighted. But why haven't Obama and the rest of the Democrats done away with it? The Patriot Act has made this country a police state without even basic rights. They like that as much as the right. "We'll just use it to stop terrorists..." if you ever bought that you are a flaming idiot.

It doesn't affect you until it does... Then it's too late. Hope it doesn't affect you.

but he is now just another jihadist under the Patriot Act.

See post #8

What does Alex Jones have to do with this story?
Oh yeah... nothing.
He sure must threaten some peoples comfort bubble.

I guess, like the NIST report, you didn't read the entire thread, or you wouldn't have to ask that question. It would probably threaten your comfort bubble. LOL

Make sure your wireless router is secure. WEP IS NO LONGER SECURE!

Could be a setup? Ones router ignorance could cost them years with the Patriot Act.

#8 | Posted by Unclesam

So how does one make sure that your router is secure?

And wouldn't an infiltration from the outside show up when the FBI checked? They went in for the hard drive after they determined something was on his server?

They did it on 24 last night--determined that the patsy jihadist's computer was uploaded with the set up data 30 minutes before?

;o)

Goatflop,
I read the entire story, and I can see that it didn't come from a Jones website, and nowhere in the story is Jones mentioned, and Jones didn't write, comment, or in any way have anything to do with the story.
I guess you missed my point as usual, or you purposefully mislead with willful ignorance.
What ever happened to all of the mysterious material you were going to post that backed up the NIST report? It's non-existent. Just like your credibility.

I read the entire story,

I said thread, not story.

You are not reading, as usual. LOL

What ever happened to all of the mysterious material you were going to post that backed up the NIST report?

???

I've no idea what you are talking about. I forever maintained that you should read it and tell me what you found in error in it. Since you did not read it, you could not tell me what was wrong with it. If you didn't tell me what was wrong with it, I have nothing to rebut.

It's not that subtle of a point, li'l jeffy.

But speaking of not reading, you did not read this thread, or you would know why Alex Jones was brought up -- just like I said upthread.

Reading is fundamental, li'l jeffy. LOL

I posted a link which showed that the mother's (and the media's) "patriot act" claims were false, as admitted by the mother on the Alex Jones program. The fact that Jones might be a nutjob doesn't discredit the mother's own admissions.

I posted a link which showed that the mother's (and the media's) "patriot act" claims were false, as admitted by the mother on the Alex Jones program. The fact that Jones might be a nutjob doesn't discredit the mother's own admissions

I tried to tell li'l jeffy that, but as usual, he went into attack mode without reading it. You'd think that someone who wants to be taken seriously would read what was suggested before attacking it. LOL Only our li'l jeffy. But I'm glad he's ours to kick around. He is a virtual cornucopia of entertainment on the DR

One thing anyone with a Linksys wireless router should do is change the password from 'admin' to something else when addressing the router at 192.168.1.1 And, of course, set up 128 bit WEP keys.

a.u. - are you suggesting we subvert the enemy?

;o)

#41 | POSTED BY MURPHY

Actually an insecure gateway could be accessed without imprinting the hard drive. However if the message was sent from the computer there would be forensics that would reveal the action, even if the data file was deleted.

So the computer will either convict or exonerate the boy. But it will not point to an intruder.

Best shot is to retrieve the MAC number from the computer that sent the message if the ISP recorded the connection. I think the FCC requires that data as it is the machine level code for every computer.

a.u. - are you suggesting we subvert the enemy?

#47 | Posted by nanc

I'm all for keeping someone from cruising my network.

I knocked on a new neighbor's door last week because their wireless N network showed up in my list of networks and was completely accessible from my house (I knew because his initials were his network's name). I'm surprised at the number of people who've never changed the default password Linksys routers come with to something everyone in the world doesn't know.

" I guess I must threaten their comfort bubble to"

LOL the only thing you threaten is people's bladder control. Your "facts" and links make me laugh so hard I've damn near pissed myself many times.

"Just like your credibility."

Jeffy, you're the absolute last person who should comment on credibility. Hell, even Bob has more than you.

So how does one make sure that your router is secure?

MURPHY

Linksys routers do not come with good details on how to secure your wireless network. If you own a Linksys router, at the minimum do this:

Connect one of your computers via Ethernet cable to your wireless router. Open a web browser and type

So how does one make sure that your router is secure?

MURPHY

Linksys routers do not come with good details on how to secure your wireless network. If you own a Linksys router, at the minimum do this:

Connect one of your computers via Ethernet cable to your wireless router. Open a web browser and type

"...the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog."

Hmm. Wouldn't post the entire post last time. Here goes again ..

So how does one make sure that your router is secure?

MURPHY

Linksys routers do not come with good details on how to secure your wireless network. If you own a Linksys router, at the minimum do this:

Connect one of your computers via Ethernet cable to your wireless router. Open a web browser and type http://192.168.1.1 It will ask for a password. If you've never changed it, ignore the "USER" field and type "admin" in the PASSWORD field. This will open access to your router settings.

Click the "Wireless" link on the Main horizontal menu bar.

A sub menu will appear below it. Click "Wireless Security".

At "Security Mode" select "WEP". Then generate WEP keys by clicking the "GENERATE" button. Copy and paste these numbers in Word and print them out. Tape them to the bottom of your router so you'll have easy access to them later. You'll need these numbers for any computer you're going to use wirelessly. They should ask you for a WEP key number. Leave the TX key at '1'.

Next step, click "Administration" on the right side of the menu bar. You'll see Password (and confirm Password) fields with a long line of dots. The number of dots mean nothing, because the factory default password is 'ADMIN' if you've never changed it. Delete the dots in the Password and Confirm fields and type in a new password you'll remember in both fields (then write it down on your Linksys installation sheet or on your WEP key printout so you'll have access to it if you forget it).

Once you have that done, no one should be able to cruise by and access your network. Linksys should be more on the ball in providing instructions in their installation guide on how to do all that, but they don't, so a lot of people never secure their wireless network.

Hope that helps.

The slow stupid goat jumped over the point. Again.

So the mom was on the Alex Jones show, and that makes him in some way responsible for this story how?
My comment was, "What does Alex Jones have to do with this story?"And again I say, nothing.

BTW GOATFLOP,
I posted peer review material that shoots holes all thru the NIST report. I guess you missed that.
I also posted a peer reviewed report that proves without a doubt that thermite was found in the rubble.
But I know I'm wasting my time telling you this, so I won't bother with you on this subject anymore.

Evidence of WTC Thermite in Peer-Reviewed Paper
www.nowpublic.com

A danish scientist Niels Harrit, on nano-thermite in the WTC dust ( english subtitles )
Niels Harrit and 8 other scientists found nano-thermite in the dust from the World Trade Center.

He is interviewed on danish TV2 News.

People can see a full transcript, news, forum and the video in high quality here:
agenda911.dk

Another site in danish is encouraging people to stand forward demanding a new investigation here:
www.i11time.dk

The full report from the scientists can be found here:
www.bentham-open.org
www.youtube.com

a.u. - what about just using a proxy server on your p.c.?

One senator, Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), actually read the Patriot Act bill, and then was the ONLY US Senator to vote against it.

You morons are reaping what you sowed. Go fuck yourselves. Whether or not the kid's computer's IP was hacked is completely irrelevant.

Maybe the abuse of this Law/ACT will finally make it unpalatable to the general masses to repeal and send it to the waste bin of stupid ideas used to destroy the constitution.

If this kid did this, his parents should be arrested also.

"What does Alex Jones have to do with this story?"And again I say, nothing.

#55 | Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-05-07 06:10 AM | Reply

Even after having it explained to you? Are you retarded or in a constant drug induced haze?

Nanc, that probably wouldn't help any as the router exists as an entity outside of your PC. You MIGHT secure your PC against intrusion depending upon how you set it up but the router's still open to the world.

Retarded drug induced haze?

Obama's fault! Oh, wait......

#1 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-05-06 08:25 PM

Granted, Obama supports the Patriot Act and voted to extend it as Senator.

What about the civilain deaths in Afganistan? bho is commander-in-chief. Should he not be held on war crimes charges?

#66 | Posted by chickenrancher

So you think Bush should be charged with war crimes for Afghanistan? How about Iraq? What about the torture his minions carried out?

grassroots movement to free ashton:

freedominourtime.blogspot.com

Yes Chairpoodle I do think you're retarded. I posted my question twice, and you still don't get it. So something is wrong with your thinking.
But thanks for playing....

What does Alex Jones have to do with this story?"And again I say, nothing.

#55 | Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-05-07 06:10 AM

What does thermite have to do with this story? I say absolutely nothing. LOL

As usual, li'l jeffy sets the rules, then breaks them all.

I posted peer review material that shoots holes all thru the NIST report.

You also missed the report itself. How can you say the rebuttals you posted are even valid without having read the report? Oh yea -- you are a sheeple and you will believe what you want to believe.

Read the report and get back to me. I refuse to debate a report that you refuse to look at. The very notion is laughably absurd.

So a solar powered wahmbulance hybrid then?

#30 | Posted by kanrei

That would be great if you had a week to get to the emergency room.

One thing is clear; this is not the right forum for setting up your router.

If the kid made this threat, forensic evidence is almost certainly on the computer the Feds seized.

Not sure why they would need to seize bank records... I mean, other than the fact that the Feds are obviously on a fishing trip.

Perhaps in his home-schooled education he missed that crucial moment of the public school experience where some classmate makes a bomb threat and spends a little time in jail.

This kid's troubles started the minute his parent(s) named him "Ashton" knowing full well he's a boy.

a.u. - are you suggesting we subvert the enemy?

#47 | Posted by nanc at 2009-05-07 01:05 AM

NANC- you don't need to worry... remember God will protect you.

For the rest of us I agree, secure your routers. But, it can be determined easily if a message originated from the PC or from somewhere else. This is obviously an abuse of power by the Feds. Regardless of what this kid did he deserves to be treated fairly and as an American with all the rights that many have died to secure. The Patriot Act is not very Patriotic. Our forefathers would puke at the very thought of it. It should be called the "Black Bag" Act. Like in the movie "V" for Vendetta Creedy (who eerily resembles Dick Cheney) and his men used black bags to abduct anyone they did not like. It will take a few ridiculous incidents like this to raise the public's awareness of this Orwellian insanity.

It took 8 years to get us to this state of madness and it will a few years to undo the damage done by Bushco and his policy of FEAR.

Comments on this subject are pathetic. I expected better, much better on this site. An eye-opener.

Well, you're free to take your toys and go home Laius.

Don't let the screen door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.

:)

"Comments on this subject are pathetic. I expected better, much better on this site. An eye-opener."

Other than demonstrating you're a pretentious ass with that comment, what did you bring to the table?

Comments on this subject are pathetic. I expected better, much better on this site. An eye-opener.

#76 | Posted by Laius at 2009-05-07 02:03 PM

perhaps no one wants to end up on the Terrorist Watch list? Who wants to end up in Creedy's Black Bag!

Seems this story is being debunked. The kid has a lawyer, has had a hearing in front of a judge. No military tribunals.

www.wired.com

The boy's mother, Annette Lundeby, has even acknowledged in interviews that her son has been formally charged, has a court-appointed attorney, and has already made appearances in front of a judge. No military tribunals here. On Alex Jones, Lundeby seemed to more-or-less admit that the USA PATRIOT connection was something she dreamed up on her own.

-Jones: And they said they are charging him under the Patriot Act, so

-Lundeby: They're not saying that, but that's exactly what they're doing.

-Jones: Well, it's in the newspaper.

-Lundeby: All their actions point towards that. But they don't deny it either.

a.u. - what about just using a proxy server on your p.c.?

#58 | Posted by nanc at 2009-05-07 08:48 AM

That only hides your IP from the web. Unrelated to wireless security.

#54 explains the steps to make your router secure from anyone trolling for networks.

The Real Victims:The U.S.Taxpayers!

Hey Now! Homeland Security has a "Multi $Billion Dollar Budget" so they have to show they're doing something besides just cashing those Big Paychecks! Plus this kid and his parents may successfully sue the US Govt for Big Bucks (of course that bill will also be paid by the U.S.Taxpayers...who likewise pay the tab for Homeland Security!)

Seems this story is being debunked. The kid has a lawyer, has had a hearing in front of a judge. No military tribunals.

I hope this is true. Still it is good advice to secure your wireless routers!

"I posted peer review material that shoots holes all thru the NIST report."

Larry's gonna have a lot of questions about "peer reviewed"

Peer Reviewed is when You declare that the Prison/Jail slop is nasty today and everyone in Your cellblock looks over the food trays and reviews the contents and then agrees and affirms Your declaration.

Larry

Wasn't this the kind of thing (arrest of seemingly innocent people with-supposedly-no rights) we were told could never, would never happen?

Pure overreaction. A simple arrest would have sufficed without all the dramatics and secretive bullshit that followed.

Chill. It's North Carolina. The kid is obviously one of those stupid, inbred, undereducated, redneck, racists that you lefties say populate red states. Be glad there is one less of them on the street.

#4 | Posted by goatman at 2009-05-06 08:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

WOW....even when I defend the "stupid, inbred, undereducated, redneck, racists", I'm still somehow wrong?

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