Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, May 05, 2009

Right-wing radio host Michael Savage is among 16 people who have been barred by the British Home Office from entering the United Kingdom of the last seven months, the British Home Office said Tuesday. The list also includes Islamic extremist clerics, Russian skinhead leaders; Neo-Nazis, a Hamas murderer, a Jewish extremist and Rev. Fred Phelps, who claims the deaths of U.S. soldiers are a punishment for tolerance of homosexuality.

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Michael Weiner is not gonna like this.

Mikey immediately announced a boycott of English food, only to find no one eats it anyways.

Freedom Footie anyone?

Cultural suicide.

Quite sad.

Mikey immediately announced a boycott of English food, only to find no one eats it anyways.

#2 | Posted by northguy3

Well, except for the muffins.

Banned from the UK! Banned?!?

Well, it's time for a little anarchy in the UK!

www.youtube.com

I've never listened to him, is he any worse than the other right wing ranters???

Mikey immediately announced a boycott of English food, only to find no one eats it anyways.

#2 | Posted by northguy3

Well, except for the muffins.

And the Indian and Chinese food

www.youtube.com

I need to dust off some old cd's.

At one time in his past, Michael Savage couldn't go near Joe the Plumber's children, if ya get my drift.

He's since reformed his ways because he found it made him more money.

I've never listened to him, is he any worse than the other right wing ranters???

#6 | Posted by danni at 2009-05-

he is pretty radical at times....you know radical about actually going by the constitution. I am sure there will be many here to come who call him all sorts of names who will also forget some of the rants he has had about bush.
lets put it this way danni I have heard him talk about bush that would make you proud and now he is talking about obama the same way,

my point is that he goes berserk now about obama the same way he went berserk about bush on most issues.

#9 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2009-05-05 11:11 AM | Reply | Flag: Weiner's Boy Toy

Freedom muffins! With jam.

No tea, of course.

Muffy thinks the UK did this because they were so insulted by Obama's gift to the PM,and because they drive on the wrong side of the road, they got left and right confused.

What has he done that could be construed as provoking serious criminal acts?

On surface, it appears that someone just doesn't like his opinion.

is he any worse than the other right wing ranters???

#6 | Posted by danni at 2009-05-05 11:07 AM

Crazy as batshit crazy can be.

101Chairborne-- likes doing it with primates cuz he knows its only over when the gorilla says so.

I've never had sexual relations with that woman... Miss Obama.

101Chairborne-- likes doing it with primates cuz he knows its only over when the gorilla says so.

#15 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2009-05-05 11:18 AM | Reply | Flag: Frankf55 Funny

When Savage is on his game he is awesome. Nothing is taboo.

On the other hand he can get all maudlin about the good old days. Thats when I shut him off.

But why Britain would single him out? I don't get it.

Savage is as hateful as mainstream talk radio gets in this country, but I still think the decision to ban him from England is excessive.

Savage is a nutcase but hardly worthy of a ban IMHO.

sorry, RCADE - you beat me to the punch.

I've never listened to him, is he any worse than the other right wing ranters???

#6 | Posted by danni

He's more intense than most of them. He gets really worked up and that, along with his content, is what the UK is probably concerned about.

Its not merely "excessive".

Between this and the recent fascistic treatment of Geert Wilders, its positively Orwellian.

You can't call yourself a "liberal" and not be disturbed by what is happening in the lesser half of civilization's last hope, the Anglosphere.

Jak -
I'm rarely if ever in favor of any speech ban. The best counter to "bad" speech is more speech.

But why Britain would single him out? I don't get it.

#18 | Posted by boojiboy

The times I have listened to him... he rants pretty hard and very un PC ...on the CAIR/Arab/Muslim terrorist thingy.

Britain has real probs in that area!

Crazy as batshit crazy can be.

#14 | Posted by 726

Crazy about closing our borders
Crazy about protecting our culture
Crazy about protecting our language
Craqzy about defending our constitution

The man is crazy

Savage is as hateful as mainstream talk radio gets in this country, but I still think the decision to ban him from England is excessive.

#19 | Posted by rcade at 2009

I see you use the word hatefull..have your democrat operatives in DC ordered you to use that term in front of the assault on the first amendment that IS COMING from dems sooner or later.

but you have to admit..read the headline and the list of people included.
you cant deny thats a pretty diverse group of people.

OR IS IT?
I mean who's worse..phelps or an islamic cleric...

Cultural suicide.
Quite sad.
#3 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

No, that happened when the US of A lowered the boom on Cat Stevens.

I guess fomenting the morons is not viewed as kindly in the uk as it is in the us.

I guess fomenting the morons is not viewed as kindly in the uk as it is in the us.

Nor is freedom of speech

No, that happened when the US of A lowered the boom on Cat Stevens.

#28 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

What culture did we destroy there?

"I've never listened to him, is he any worse than the other right wing ranters???

#6 | Posted by danni at 2009-05-05 11:07 AM"

He tries to affect some sort of tough guy persona. But then it came out that he lives in San Francisco, which dented that image. Now that we know his name is Weiner, the jig is up. He's a fruitcake.

No, that happened when the US of A lowered the boom on Cat Stevens.

That was an ID error. It was subsequently corrected.

That's a tad different from a specific, state-mandated banning of an individual because of the political content of their work.

I doubt it's due to "political content".

He tries to affect some sort of tough guy persona. But then it came out that he lives in San Francisco, which dented that image. Now that we know his name is Weiner, the jig is up. He's a fruitcake.

#32 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-05-05 12:06 PM

I love that his radio name is "Savage." It's now obvious he was compensating for his real name, and possibly something else.

From now on we can just refer to him as Savage Weiner.

From now on we can just refer to him as Savage Weiner.


Only if you want to get 101's juices flowing.

I doubt it's due to "political content".

Its precisely due to political content.

It used to be that there would be wackos who would go into crowded theaters of entertainment and yell, "fire".

Now those wackos are being paid to yell "fire" in crowded theaters on entertainment by those who are in the crowd.

That's why the media is becoming much like a keynote speech at the local Beaneater's Convention.

"Its precisely due to political content."

So which political party is he representing when he lashes out at gays and Muslims?

Just curious -- does Michael Savage rail against muslims?

That could be the reason. The UK is more and more kowtowing to them.

Jackoff,

It is not the 'political' content of Savage's filth they are objecting to. It it the incindiary hate speach they are banning. Just like in this country it is illegal to falsely shout 'Fire' in a crowded theater, having some trailer-trash idol spewing hate in a country with some very serious racial problems is not a good idea.

He is in good company with that asswipe Phelps.

It is not the 'political' content of Savage's filth they are objecting to.

#41 | Posted by axe at 2009-05-05 12:15 PM

*ahem*

That's WEINER's filth, not Savage's.

Goat,

UK is not kowtowing to the muslims. They are trying to keep a lid on a very unstable pot. Their methods may be suspect, but the danger is real enough for them to take it seriously. The Brit skin heads make our little Johnson look like a poofter in a paisley skirt.

"disturbed by what is happening in the lesser half of civilization's last hope, the Anglosphere."
-#23 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

haHA, did you just get back from a meeting with President Monroe, aboard the colonial ship USS Manifest Destiny?

I honestly can't believe that there are still shitboxes like you that truly believe that drivel.

Get some historical (temporal) perspective. At least Monroe had a limited excuse for his ignorance in his lack of access to information about the history of the world's civilizations.
You have the internet.
Fucking use it and stop trying to puff out your chest with this ego-compensating belief in supremacy.

And good God son, get a grip of yourself, Chicken Little.

So which political party is he representing when he lashes out at gays and Muslims?

I think you need to provide yourself with a better grasp of the meaning of "political" and get back to us when you've done so.

He's being banned due to the political content of his work---just as Geert Wilders was for his.

"I doubt it's due to "political content".

"Its precisely due to political content.

#37 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2009-05-05 12:11 PM | Reply | Flag: Agent, British SIS

Michael Weiner is a litigious pussy.

"In 1996, Savage filed a lawsuit against the Graduate School of Journalism at the University of California, Berkeley, claiming that he had been discriminated against when he had applied for the position of Dean. What Savage's qualifications were to be Dean of a journalism school remain a mystery. At that time, he was a celebrated author in the niche field of botany and herbal lore, and had a total of one year as a talk-show host under his belt."

www.sourcewatch.org

www.nealpollack.com

thinkprogress.org

Nor is freedom of speech

#30 | Posted by goatman at 2009-05-05 12:02 PM | Reply |

True. Although a little extreme, it is funny to see this guy on same list as some of the folks he targets with his kind words.

Seriously though, at what point do you think a certain discourse nears being qualified as hate speech? Or do you believe there is no such thing?

Or do you believe there is no such thing?

Of course there is. It shouldn't be outlawed in a free country, though. Hate speech is its own worst enemy. It self destructs, or at worst stagnates.

KKK e.g.

The headline should be changed to reflect his true name.

so lets impose a little 'conspiracy theory into the discussion and its too bad IM not joking as it seems that someone who actually looks out for his PAYING clients can be threatened by the WHITE HOUSE CHICAGO MAFIA..who's to say this isnt part of his ban??

michaelsavage.wnd.com

Intersting...I Googled the term "White House Chicago Mafia" because there is no way AFK thought of it on his own and I found this:

www.aawsat.com

Is AFK getting his talking points from an Arab newspaper?

Is AFK getting his talking points from an Arab newspaper?

#53 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-05-05 12:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

if he walks like a crook
and he talks like a crook
chances are good that he's a crook

Britain is not the U.S. It is a different country with different laws and different traditions. So many people on this site seem to assume our two nations mirror one another. That has never been the case. On issues such as Freedom of Speech this becomes amply clear. The British have few qualms about rejecting the speech of a hate monger like Michael Weiner. Here, in the U.S., we consider the right to such speech sacrosanct.

#54 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-05-05 12:47 PM
So that means yes, you are getting your talking points from Arab Newspapers.

If it walks like a duck
If it says the same things as a duck
Odds are, its a duck

I had no idea of this article..
I came up with my assesment by completely scientific means..

rhom's nose is crooked.......and he is from chicago.

I mean come on..what more evidencse do you need?

Are you hiding doc? WTF does cat stevens have to do with killing culture? Let's hear it.

When the British came for the conservatives,
I remained silent;
I was not a conservative.

When they locked up the Neocons,
I remained silent;
I was not a Neocon.

When they came for the Right Wing talk show host,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Right Wing talk show host.

When they came for the Christians,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Christian.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Darkstar

Savage is a jackass and a racist but he is funny. He is so insane you can't help but laugh. If you want to get him riled up call and tell him you got your job from affirmative action.

The Savage Weiner is banned in the UK?

Likened to religious extremists from other parts of the world?

Oh, the luls, the luls!

Whiny Mikey is a certifiable nutbar like most of his listeners.

He's an racist, a homophobe, a political extremist, a hater and a freaking moron.

A self-loathing Jew given to rants like...

"Twenty-nine percent of all inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens. No, Mr. Bush, they do not all come here to work, they do not all come here to work. They come here to work the system, sell drugs, rape, and kill on contract. Don't lie to us.

Spud's face rave was the one that got Mikey fired from MSNBC after only 4 months there.

On July 7, Savage was fired from his MSNBC television show after remarks made in response to a caller, later identified as prank caller Bob Foster, who insulted Savage's teeth. Savage then asked if Foster was a "sodomite", to which the caller answered, "Yes." Savage then said to the caller, "Oh, so you're one of those sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig; how's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig? You got nothing better to do than to put me down, you piece of garbage? You got nothing to do today? Go eat a sausage, and choke on it. Get trichinosis. Now do we have another nice caller here who's busy because he didn't have a nice night in the bathhouse who's angry at me today? Put another, put another sodomite on....no more calls?...I don't care about these bums; they mean nothing to me. They're all sausages." [23]

A man who's own show described himself as "To the right of Rush and to the left of God" is a certifiable wingnut.

Really funny thing Spud learned while googling "Micheal Savage Quotes" was how the neo-nazi fuckstains over at Stormfront are deeply conflicted by Savage. Understandable in that he spews hate just like them so they hafta luff him but he's of Jewish orgin so they kinda hafta hate him too.

Watching their little wee brains asplode in print was kind of a giggle fer Spud.

Did the UK go overboard here in denying li'l Mikey a chance to revel in the rainy isle?

Perhaps, but not as overboard as Mikey tends to go every time he opens his flaming pie hole.

Be Well.

What culture did we destroy there?
#31 | Posted by Sniper

You haven't reclaimed the chit I reserved for your Reading Comprehension course, have you?

Step #1: Read Post #3 above.
Step #2: Read Post #28 above.
Step #3: Reflect on #28 as a response to #3

It has to do with irony. But you can't have a chit for that class until you get a "C" or better in Reading Comprehension.

"That the Anglosphere is the most advanced, successful, pluralistic, wealthy, and progressive entity in the history of human civilization?"

Yes, that.

What kind of a moron thinks it's logical to compare ethnic "spheres" by comparing his present one (limited pretty severely by the range of time and issues considered) to other spheres at one particular moment in time, and then declare "we're clearly the shit, and have been for all of the 4000 years the world has been around"?

It's like a marathon runner managing to pull up from behind by the 12th mile to take a lead, then stopping and saying "HA! I'm the fastest there ever was".

How so? "Well, look where I am right now."

Well what about the first 10 miles? "Those don't count. And I deny they were ever ahead of me, otherwise how could I be in the lead right now???"

Well what about the next 14 miles, you don't think one of the runners that was ahead of you a little while back could come up again? "Nope. Greatest ever, biatch! An-glo-sphere! An-glo-spere! An-glo-sphere!" (to theme music of U-S-A!...)

I could break down your claims of most:
-advanced
-successful
-pluralistic
-wealthy
-and progressive
if you'd like and have the time. As well as how many creditable Anglo contributions to the recent/current state that I, as well as you, love - are overwhelmingly mitigated by circumstances of chance/wrongdoing/outside contribution, strongly nullifying claims of "superiority".

I'm not saying the same doesn't apply to every other "sphere" during their eras of "superiority", but thought I'd take the time to shut down one (of far too many) "we're the shit"-ers.

Don't be a shitbox.

Cool.

Except the Anglosphere is the most advanced, successful, pluralistic, wealthy, and progressive entity in the history of human civilization.

The tip of the spear of civilization.

I'm sorry if that offends your little pseudo-intellectual, relativistic sense of fairy-tale.

but thought I'd take the time to shut down one (of far too many) "we're the shit"-ers.

Take all the time you need...

Dumbass.

This is a sad example of the direction the Left is headed. In striving to be "more like Europe," I wouldn't be surprised to see American Democrats come up with other ways to silence or punish speech they don't agree with. Some of them have already proposed more "fairness" in talk radio, and other Congressmen have proposed public condemnations of Rush Limbaugh, who has been singled out by Democrats all the way to the top. Again, if this is where the Left is headed, that's sad.

Just curious -- does Michael Savage rail against muslims?

That could be the reason. The UK is more and more kowtowing to them.

The few times I've listened to Michael Savage talk on the radio and he's spoken up against Muslims it's mostly due to his resentment of Muslims trying to take over every country they go to and enforce all their own customs and laws on everyone else.

Britain has become a joke -- a shell of its former self due to the pc crap demanded by the EU and the takeover of Europe by Muslims due to the EU's mandatory open immigration/no borders laws throughout Europe. Britain's culture has been shredded and is almost obliterated. Give it another 10 years and the UK will operate entirely under strict Islamic Sharia law and even Christmas will no longer be celebrated.

Come on, when you have Norway's banks now cowering in fear and getting rid of symbols of children's piggy banks in order to not "offend" Muslim sensitivity you've taken the pc bs too far. Britain's banks did the same thing in 2005.

You'd no longer recognize Britain as the once proud country where the residents of London bravely withstood night after night onslaughts of German air assaults. They've sadly become a nation of Eurowussies.

European newspapers are now too terrified to even print a cartoon image of "Mohammed" because their newspaper offices might be firebombed by outraged Muslims. Where does all this crap stop?

And I don't blame the Muslims for pushing to take over everything as much as I blame the European countries for letting them get away with it. That's what happens when a country -- any country -- gives up control of its borders and its sovereignty. It is not longer its own country. And it can easily happen here too.

Someone on here correctly posted that Great Britain is a different country than the US, with different laws. That's correct, and the Brits can ban anyone they want from entering their country.

It does leave them open to charges of hypocrisy, and the politically correct crowd somehow, seems to always get the major influence in these decisions.

I haven't listened to Savage much.. he is too hyperbolic for my tastes, and while he may in fact be hateful at times, he's really just a right wing version of someone like Michael Moore, who, as far as I know, isn't on the banned list.

For instance, they banned a Dutch writer who dared associate Islam with terrorism. Sorry, but we do call them "Islamic Terrorists".. (at least most of us do) that's not hate speech, its just an accurate description.

But, as I said in the beginning.. that's the Brits' business.

It self destructs, or at worst stagnates.

KKK e.g.

#50 | Posted by goatman at 2009-05-05 12:34 PM | Reply |

In other instances it leads to genocide. e.g.: nazi germany, kosovo, rwanda, etc.

#66 | Posted by JOE at 2009-05-05 01:26 PM | Reply | Flag hyperbole

But why Britain would single him out? I don't get it.

Could be Washington sending him the back off message in a round about way....

He has been on the attack as of late against everything Obama has done. He was screaming about "Seal the boarders" when the swine flu came up....

My guess is he said something that really pissed off Obama of Rom and they made a call.

Savage is a bit crazy but makes sense on many things at the same time.

No I don't agree with everything he says--who could?

This just gives him higher ratings.

And his lawsuit will not go anywhere.

I think this will be the 3 or 4 lawsuit for him.

What's amazing is that WE are next.

If Brits think that Savage is comparable to terrorist muslims and clerics who want people to strap on suicide belts and nazi guys who killed people--they will come for you and me next.

#71 | Posted by bashthis

He was saying the same thing to Bush--for years!

Savage is a piece of shit... I don't want him in this country. I can completely understand where the brits are coming from.

"Flag hyperbole"

The American Left is always one step behind (yet envious of) the European Left. It's therefore not hyperbole to compare the American Left's weakling tactics against Limbaugh to the UK's straightforward banning of Savage. My guess is that many American lefties wouldn't mind seeing the government force Limbaugh off the air so long as there were some manipulative Constitutional argument that could be made for it.

In other instances it leads to genocide. e.g.: nazi germany, kosovo, rwanda, etc.

Those places didn't have freedom of speech. The opposing views were stifled

Those places didn't have freedom of speech. The opposing views were stifled

#76 | Posted by goatman at 2009-05-05 02:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

and one of the first things the nazis did upon entering a captured town was to take down church bells as they were a call to meet.
and to take over and stiffle all of the artists so they couldnt give people hope.

and if they had talk radio..THEY WOULD HAVE DONE JUST WHAT DEMS ARE trying to do now in the United States Senate.

Afkabl2 -

So the Dems are trying to trying to take somebody's church bells? Even figuratively speaking, what the hell are you talking about? They're crushing hope?

Riiiiiigggghhht

"that's sad.

#66 | Posted by JOE at 2009-05-05 01:26 PM"

Don't let those tears fall on your penny loafers, Joe: fivebeforechaos.com

My guess

Exactly, you have no clue at all. Of course, you will find a select few who may think that way and apply their opinions to everyone who you think is of the "left". Summer time is rolling around, you may want to keep those strawmen somewhere cool as they are prone to going up in flames.

I see you use the word hatefull..have your democrat operatives in DC ordered you to use that term in front of the assault on the first amendment that IS COMING from dems sooner or later.

Yeah, I take orders from on high, BLT. Get them once a month wrapped in an issue of Hustler (or sometimes Black Tail.

I used the term hateful because Savage spews hatred towards people who don't share his politics. It's tiresome and ugly, and the proper response is to turn the dial, not elevate his status by banning him.

"Exactly, you have no clue at all"

I definitely have a clue given the venom I see from lefties - be them bloggers, the media, Congressmen all the way up to the President of the United States - toward Limbaugh. If you think that's a strawman, too bad.

Just curious -- does Michael Savage rail against muslims?

That could be the reason. The UK is more and more kowtowing to them.

#40 | Posted by goatman

He rails against Muslims big time. I think he still has a suit against him from a Muslim group. I want to say CARE, but that could be way off.

I used the term hateful because Savage spews hatred towards people who don't share his politics. It's tiresome and ugly, and the proper response is to create a website where people from all political stripes can participate in the tiresome, ugly spewing daily!
#81 | Posted by rcade at 2009-05-05 02:44 PM | Reply Flag: 4 Eyes

"Just curious -- does Michael Savage rail against muslims?

#40 | Posted by goatman"

Does a fat Tex... er, fat dog fart?

yawn

#66 | Posted by JOE at 2009-05-05 01:26 PM | Reply | Flag hyperbole
#70 | Posted by taxman at 2009-05-05 01:34 PM
Interesting that on a thread about a left leaning country banning a radio personality for speech they don't agree with, Taxman thinks its out of the question for newly left leaning Amercia to do the same. His partisanship would have nothing to do with it.

Interesting that on a thread about a left leaning country banning a radio personality for speech they don't agree with, Taxman thinks its out of the question for newly left leaning Amercia to do the same.

England does not have a right to free speech while we in America do.

Savage is as hateful as mainstream talk radio gets in this country, but I still think the decision to ban him from England is excessive.

#19 | Posted by rcade at 2009-05-05 11:31 AM

agreed! We shouldn't discriminate against the Rtards. Even if they are batshit crazy! I mean we lefties were only one election away from going completely insane ourselves!

"Interesting that on a thread about a left leaning country banning a radio personality for speech they don't agree with, Taxman thinks its out of the question for newly left leaning Amercia to do the same."

Right, and the fact that lefties constantly pine after the nationalized medicine, public transit and just about every other political "accomplishment" in Europe should be disregarded when wondering whether our leftists will follow those in the UK with regard to "offensive" and disagreeable radio personalities.

England does not have a right to free speech while we in America do.

#88 | Posted by kanrei

Well, they do, with some limitations, under EU conventions.

"In 1998, the United Kingdom incorporated the European Convention, and the guarantee of freedom of expression it contains in Article 10, into its domestic law under the Human Rights Act. UK law imposes a number of limitations on freedom of speech not found in some other jurisdictions. For example, its laws recognise the crimes of incitement to racial hatred and incitement to religious hatred. UK laws on defamation are also considered{{by whom?}} among the strictest in the Western world, imposing a high burden of proof on the defendant." - Wiki

Thank you Kanrei, I was just getting ready to post that.

nationalized medicine, public transit

Are those programs strictly European?

Those places didn't have freedom of speech. The opposing views were stifled

#76 | Posted by goatman at 2009-05-05 02:07 PM | Reply |

True, but access to and complete dominance in and of the media by one point of view creates the same situation as physically stifling the opposing view. It's becomes a matter of money, which can often be a better weapon than a gun to get your way and to get your pov across to the masses.

and if they had talk radio..THEY WOULD HAVE DONE JUST WHAT DEMS ARE trying to do now in the United States Senate.

#77 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-05-05 02:15 PM | Reply |

afka,

If you really believe that, you need meds. If your goading, find another angle, this is getting tiresome and no longer gets traction. Just a thought.

True, but access to and complete dominance in and of the media by one point of view creates the same situation as physically stifling the opposing view. It's becomes a matter of money, which can often be a better weapon than a gun to get your way and to get your pov across to the masses.

#94 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-05-05 03:32 PM | Reply | Flag

That's ridiculous. Savage has no monopoly on the American airwaves and we still have plenty of opposing viewpoints. This equating the US with those horrific regimes is tiresome and on your part, just lazy baiting.

This equating the US with those horrific regimes is tiresome and on your part, just lazy baiting.

#96 | Posted by MrFair at 2009-05-05 03:41 PM | Reply |

I'm no longer referring to weinerboy, weinerboy. I was discussing the principles of hate speech, how it comes to be in the 21st century as opposed to nazi germany.

In any case, carry on with your hysteria.

#97 - Pauncho then what did you mean by complete dominance in the media? To whom were you referring? And how does that compare with unsavory regimes from 60 years ago?

"Weiner." Huh. Huh. Huh.

"Are those programs strictly European?"

No. But the European systems are those cited by Americans as the ideal. I know you're not really this stupid, but continue asking these asinine questions if you wish.

"Weiner." Huh. Huh. Huh.

#99 | Posted by gregorybrian at 2009-05-05 04:09 PM

Yeah, heh heh.

But the European systems are those cited by Americans as the ideal.

Really, only European systems are cited? No one has cited the Japanese rail system when it comes to rapid transit? No one has cited other nations with national health care when discussing the perceived inadequacies of the US health care?

I love the irony - the left loves to accuse the right of being "fascist", yet it's the left that proves a love for fascism time and time again.

I guaruntee that the UK would NEVER ban a Savage-equivalent lefty. Rosie O'Donnel is for sure welcome, as is Garafolo.

Pauncho then what did you mean by complete dominance in the media? To whom were you referring? And how does that compare with unsavory regimes from 60 years ago?

#98 | Posted by MrFair at 2009-05-05 04:06 PM | Reply |
Mr Fear,

I was exchanging with someone else on the principles of hate speech. When I gave nazi germany as an example of how hate speech can lead to genocide, I was answered that the reason it had happened in germany was because the opposing view was stifled by the nazis...to which I responded that from an absolute point of view, total media dominance by one point of view achieves the same result.

I guaruntee that the UK would NEVER ban a Savage-equivalent lefty. Rosie O'Donnel is for sure welcome, as is Garafolo.

#103 | Posted by JeffJ at 2009-05-05 04:26 PM |

Why don't you find a left wing celebrity that spews venom at the same level on a daily basis, then you might have a point. As it stands, Rosie is just a pain in the ass, apparently a greater pain in yours...

Some of my fave Savage quotes:

"Now, you come to a point where the spiritual vacuum has emerged in the United States of America. Enter the vacuum are very religious Muslims. They don't like the stuff that I don't like, frankly. The very same things that offend me, offend them."

"God abhors a spiritual vacuum. That is why he has permitted, in fact probably not only permitted, but in a way orchestrated the rise of radical Islam."

"It's becoming increasingly clear to me that God wants radical Islam on this planet at this time -- that it's not actually the scourge you think it is."

"And God, who is the center of this monotheistic religion, has said, "Oh, you don't worship me anymore? Oh, you don't like me anymore? Oh, I don't exist anymore? Really? All right, I'm going to show you boys in Hollywood and you girls in New York City that I do exist. But since you're very hard-headed, stiff-necked people, and you don't really believe that I exist because you've gotten away with everything you've done all your life without any repercussions, I'm going to show you I exist in a way that you can't believe." Down came the World Trade Center towers. That was God speaking."

Anybody who believes in Michael Savage is crazier than he is.

#102 | Posted by taxman at 2009-05-05 04:18 PM

If you don't think the European Left is the "model" that American lefties hope to emulate, your problem is one of ignorance. Just as you abandoned the claims I responded to in #82, you'll eventually stop pretending not to know what I'm talking about with regard to this. If not, oh well.

In # 82 you reference Limbaugh. I have yet to see any politician say he should be taken off the air. You try to throw the President into the mix, but again I have yet to see where the President has said Limbaugh should be pulled off the air by the government. It wasn't worth responding to as it was pointless. You are trying to attribute the select words of a few to a massive group which harbors various lines of thought and reasoning.

Oh and I forgot to call you out on your claim that Obama doesn't want to nominate a constitutional scholar to SCOTUS, but instead someone with empathy. While he did state empathy would be one criteria, he went also listed several other criteria having to do with knowledge of the constitution. You must have been watching Fox News when you made that assertion as they made a point to only use the empathy part of the statement.

I will be back later tonight. I have a real law job now and I don't have time to spend here like I used to with the accounting firm. Just started but the work is starting to roll in.

It has to do with irony. But you can't have a chit for that class until you get a "C" or better in Reading Comprehension.

#62 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Try speaking plain english and quit insulting me. Your gibrish is getting very old.

"If you don't think the European Left is the "model" that American lefties hope to emulate ..."

The American left is significantly different from the European left - until you get near the extreme. The conditions here are much different from those in Europe.

The American left would like to see some of the socialistic programs the European left supports implemented here, that much is true.

like Archie Bunker used to say England is based on a Fagdom...

Well, well, well.... just goes to show that UK isn't as free as America.

"England is based on a Fagdom..."

Unlike the U.S. which is the land of the free and the home of the brave. As any historian, political scientist and sociologist can tell you.

just goes to show that UK isn't as free as America.

#112 | Posted by takitez at 2009-05-05 05:29 PM

And that just goes to show you what you know about freedom.

just goes to show that UK isn't as free as America.

which country banned Cat Stevens?

Mikey wiener (got to be stupid to think calling yourself savage makes you less wienerish)is hiring the best First Amendment lawyers he can find-maybe he should hire someone who can tell him the US Constitution doesn't apply in the UK.

Fucking moron. A real wiener. Explaining the right's adoration of him.

The existence of Michael Savage, who has Savagely bad-mouthed the ACLU, makes me wonder if I would indeed defend to the death his right to utter the garbage he utters.

But the real point needing to be made is that if Michael comes to visit MY house for some unimaginable reason, he does NOT have a right to free speech on MY sofa. herm

And the US banned Amy Crackhouse. A serious threat to all Americans.

If anyone cared to take a look they would see the British ban list is more symbolic than anything else. It is a collection of 16 assholes from around the world many of which who made it on the US terrorist watch list. No, they can't go to the US either.

I expect Wiener-boy is on the list to show they are not just singling out Muslim extremists.

Europeans and the British are not big fans of hate talk due to that funny little Austrian with the bad mustache a few years back.

I guaruntee that the UK would NEVER ban a Savage-equivalent lefty. Rosie O'Donnel is for sure welcome, as is Garafolo.

#103 | Posted by JeffJ

Gabarfalot called Americans racists for the rallies on tax day.

That would be considered hate speech. She hates them --right?

Rosie hates Christians.

And yes--UK is different than the US--fine--but if you don't see the difference between people who actually killed people and a talk radio guy--then there are not enough words to describe how stupid some folks are.

Savage had a lawsuit against CAIR--I think it was dismissed.

He has had 1 or 2 others.

He is going to file a defamation lawsuit against this Smith person and the UK.

Unknown how that will go. He wants an apology and his name off that list.

Who were the other 6 names? There were 16 total?

Hate Speech;

www.youtube.com

More hate speech;

www.youtube.com

Too bad we can't ban this waste of 02 from the human race.

Michael Weiner needs a lesson his Daddy apparently forgot to teach him.

What a twerpy little bitch.

But the real point needing to be made is that if Michael comes to visit MY house for some unimaginable reason, he does NOT have a right to free speech on MY sofa. herm

He would have the right of free speech in my but would be visiting very long.

I have my free speech too, GET OUT!!!

Yeah, I take orders from on high, BLT. Get them once a month wrapped in an issue of Hustler (or sometimes Black Tail.

I used the term hateful because Savage spews hatred towards people who don't share his politics. It's tiresome and ugly, and the proper response is to turn the dial, not elevate his status by banning him.

#81 | Posted by rcade at 2009-05-05 02:44 PM | R

I THOUGHT SO...so is the 8:45 call from rhom through carville that ends up at your house??

and I might surprise you..or not...but there are plenty of times that I turn off savage when he becomes downright rude to callers.

.. my point is that he goes berserk now about obama the same way he went berserk about bush on most issues.
#10 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-05-05 11:12 AM

What a softball "description". Michael Savage is even cruder than Rush Limbaugh.

Truly scrumptious!

Michael Savage (Weiner) Oy Vey!

"Savage is as hateful as mainstream talk radio gets in this country"

Fuck off, rcade.

"Crazy about closing our borders
Crazy about protecting our culture
Crazy about protecting our language
Craqzy about defending our constitution"

These are his main points. And he does turn into a raving lunatic at times. But he's like a good scotch -- takes time to appreciate. While I haven't tuned in in years, his shtick is nothing compared to some drudgie posts. Hateful? Compared to what?

.. But he's like a good scotch -- takes time to appreciate. ..
#126 | Posted by happyending at 2009-05-05 11:24 PM

I believe the idea is that good scotch requires aging, regardless if you appreciate it or not.

How many other radio personalities are more shocking to you? Check out the links from #124 - even Glenn Beck is taken aback regarding Savages claim that "autism is a fraud and a racket".

I believe the idea is that good scotch requires aging, regardless if you appreciate it or not.

Good scotch is just a decoration if you never drink it. Which is why I believe that Savage should be stuck in a giant blender and imbibed by the RNC.

Makes perfect sense...

Lumping in a radio talk show host with Jihad terrorist is absurd. Another example of the dangers of liberalism. I hope Savage's counter-attack which is a ban on travel to England takes off. F @ C K England!!!!!

Trust that the Obama the Dictator will do something similar in the United States. Look at the Obama Administration trying to DISBAR lawyers who worked in the Bush Administration who simply gave their legal OPINION on interrogation techniques. What's next, if you are a lawyer who is prolife and gives legal opinions accordingly, should they be disbarred? If the next President is a conservative and does the same thing happen to pro-choice lawyers or lawyers who fight for gay rights and give legal opinions accordingly? Obama is a real POS!

Trust that the Obama the Dictator will do something similar in the United States.

Yeah, he's gonna take your guns and bibles.

Gack! You got me JAK SE MAO. I am indeed a pseudo-intellectual relativist. I praise your Anglo "superiorness."
Your response proved it to me:

"Cool.
Except the Anglosphere is the most advanced, successful, pluralistic, wealthy, and progressive entity in the history of human civilization.
The tip of the spear of civilization.
I'm sorry if that offends your little pseudo-intellectual, relativistic sense of fairy-tale."

...It's affable; it repeats exactly what you said the first time, so us non-Anglospherians might have a chance to peek through the grey clouds obscuring our intellects; AND, you apologize for being the "bestest ever!"

I *heart* you.

...Wait...you used "relativistic." Holy shit! Hypocritical, pseudo-intellectual Angloshitbox!
If you want people to believe the "Anglosphere" (recockulous word by the way) is superior, you should probably not speak ever again. And don't let them know you're part of the Anglosphere.

Still...
Cool.

Who am I to question the Tip of "the tip of the spear of civilization?" (You're definitely the tip of something. Hint: a dick.). If you gotta puff up your little chest with that shit, go on you badass Anglo, sphere it the fuck up.

And, since you bothered to respond with two posts in a row, here was my alternate response to you:
"You dumb, son".

"What's next, if you are a lawyer who is prolife and gives legal opinions accordingly, should they be disbarred?"

#129 | Posted by utastaff at 2009-05-06 12:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

If you direct your pro-life lawyer to declare it legal for you to bomb an abortion clinic, and then you do it, then both you and your lawyer should be in prison.

(for a totally random example)

Honestly, they should be disbarred just for writing such awful 'legal' advice.

I've read better copywrite on the back of a cereal box.

He rails against Muslims big time. I think he still has a suit against him from a Muslim group. I want to say CARE, but that could be way off.

CAIR actually.

Savage went on air in October 2007 and essentially sed CAIR had ties to terrorism.

CAIR posted a 4 minute clip of his rant and put it on their website refuting the charges point by point.

Savage tried to muzzle the criticisms and sued CAIR for copyright infringement

The court found for CAIR due to "Fair Use", a bloggers best friend, btw.

Copyright law is not supposed to protect one from critics.

Savage also sued for damages because he claimed the criticism caused him to lose advertisers.

Which he did.

Court sed... plaintiff fails to allege or suggest an impact on the actual or potential sale, marketability, or demand for the original, copyrighted work. ... Plaintiff instead alleges that defendants caused him financial loss in advertising revenue. Assuming the truth of this allegation, it relates only to the economic impact on future shows, and has no impact on the market for the original, copyrighted show on October 29, 2007.

So Weiner lost again.

A third suit against CAIR for "racketeering" was essentially thrown out of court.

Finding numerous flaws in the complaint, including a failure to comply with the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the Court dismissed the claim with leave to amend.

On the plus side fer Weiner when CAIR countersued him for legal costs they lost.

Here's another pearl of wisdom from Doc Savage, the autism expert.

Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."

Wotta Weiner.

Be Well.

#135 - That's a pretty ignorant thing to say about autism. He should stick to politics.

I agree, the last person (people) we should listen to about autism is doctors.

Especially those that have written 12 books about medical conditions.

RZEIT are you saying that Michael Savage is a doctor who has written 12 books about medical conditions?

Do you know who Dr. Michael Weiner is?

I agree, the last person (people) we should listen to about autism is doctors.

He's not a medical doctor. He was a high school teacher who went back to school and obtained a Ph.D. from the University of California, Berkeley, in nutritional ethnomedicine in 1978.

A Berkeley grad. Face it Rex if he hadn't turned out to be a total right wing wingnut you'd hate the guy.

Especially those that have written 12 books about medical conditions.

Yes who can fergit the medical classic "Bugs in Peanut Butter" or "Man's Useful Plants"?

Still staples in many respectable Med schools, Spud is sure.

Does "The Taster's Guide to Beer" count as a medical condition book?

"Earth Medicine, Earth Food" and "The Way of the Skeptical Nutritionist" and "The Art of Feeding Children Well (with Kathleen Goss)" and "Nutrition Against Aging" are more New Age cook books than medical books.

So yer impressed by New Age cookbooks and alternative homeopathic enthno nutrition when it's a rightwing nutbar writing about them?

Spud'll keep that in mind in future.

Do you agree with the good doctor's diagnosis about autism here?

That's a hoax being perpetrated globally by lazy kids on dumb parents?

Really?

Be Well.

The highest degree Michael Savage has earned is a Ph.D in Nutritional Ethnomedicine, but he is NOT, nor has he ever been, a medical doctor:

Ethnomedicine is a sub-field of ethnobotany or medical anthropology that deals with the study of traditional medicines: not only those that have relevant written sources (e.g. Traditional Chinese Medicine, Ayurveda), but especially those, whose knowledge and practices have been orally transmitted over the centuries[1].

In the scientific arena, ethnomedical studies are generally characterized by a strong anthropological approach, or by a strong biomedical approach, particularly in drug discovery programs. The focus of anthropological studies is the perception and context of use of traditional medicines, while biomedical approaches often focus on discovering therapeutic molecules, such as the anti HIV/AIDS molecule prostratin.


If you go to his wiki entry, his educational background shows clearly his main focus was the anthropological approach.

As for the books he wrote (back when he was Michael Weiner), they seem to mostly focus on homeopathy, natural foods, and related topics.

Even though he's not a medical doctor, he really ought to know better than to spout off about autism like that...really ignorant.

So, you are a Doctor, and I/we should listen to what you have to say about autism?

Massive autism is a sham.

It's the global warming of of child behavior.

If you believe it, I have a distorted bridge to sell you.

And I, unlike you, have Masters degree in psychology

So, you are a Doctor, and I/we should listen to what you have to say about autism?

#142 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-05-06 03:05 AM | Reply | Flag: Strawman

No.

But, I think a better place to learn about the origins of autism might be from people who are trained in the relevant areas (specifically, neuroscience), and have done the research.

See the quotations and links I provided here.

Massive autism is a sham.

#143 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

Well, the problem is, autism presents as a whole range of developmental disorders, and there's a fairly broad spectrum into which "autistics" fall. As such, there's a lot of wiggle room in the diagnosis. Just like lawyers, judges, politicians, etc., there are mediocre and even bad doctors who make mistakes.

However, I would agree that autism could be overdiagnosed - be it a doctor simply mistaking other symptoms for autism for one reason or another, or if parents are pressing for some kind of diagnosis for a "problem child".

'Zarathustra', I'm betting you don't even know what you named yourself after.

Knee jerk and reactionary is no way to go through life.

In fact, your behavior may be classified as mildly autistic.

'Zarathustra', I'm betting you don't even know what you named yourself after.

Knee jerk and reactionary is no way to go through life.

In fact, your behavior may be classified as mildly autistic.

#146 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-05-06 03:17 AM | Reply | Flag: Knee jerk and reactionary

LOL!

....Xactley

I'm not going to get into an argument with the self-proclaimed king of blogworld, or whatever it is you purport to be.

I'm simply putting out ideas that are the result of years' worth of intensive study. Let the readers compare for themselves, and see if they prefer the research approach, or Michael "Savage" Weiner's methodology.

And I, unlike you, have Masters degree in psychology

Ever hear the phrase, "Doctor, Heal Thyself"?

In yer case is more like "Rex, Shrink Thyself"

/Hopefully small enuff so that we can inject you into Rush Limbaughs bloodstream in a tiny little craft.

//So long and have a fantastic voyage!

Be Well.

Wiener's observations aren't new.

But then again, you had no idea who he is or what he has written.

It's difficult to hold a conversation with someone who is winging it.

Didn't see you there Spud, do you have anything of substance to add to the conversation?

www.youtube.com

Well, you seem to have read a few of his books. What's he have to say about autism, other than the "brat" bit that was reproduced above? I'd honestly be interested to hear about it - if nothing else, at least so I could attempt to engage his ideas in some kind of debate.

So far, I've been the one providing arguments.

BTW - What are your thoughts on brain-derived neurotrophic factor, the locus coeruleus, and their relations to autism? Here's the link again, in case you missed it earlier.

I make my own determinations.

That, we can agree upon.

Then I make statements of fact.

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

Don't quit now, I'm just getting a nice lather up.

And I, unlike you, have Masters degree in psychology

#143 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-05-06 | Flag: BWAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA ha ha ha HAAAAAA!!!!!

Oh, God, my stomach hurts !!! No way! It's obvious reading this guy's posts he may be in NEED of a psychologist (and meds), but NO WAY is this immature underdeveloped juvenile a psychologist. Pu - leeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!!!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!

Nice, please continue.

I am always open to new ideas and concepts.

This sounds great....

go ahead.....

Michael Weiner (how appropriate) claiming some expertise on autism is akin to Dr. Laura claiming to have expertise in counseling with a PhD in physiology.

Go ahead....continue...

Tell us more.

Let it out Frank done perfectly...Obviously you have some answers that need to be released..

Let it out, we're all fiends here.

You feel you have some insight...let's hear it.

I'm always willing to listen.

Didn't see you there Spud, do you have anything of substance to add to the conversation?

Well, Spud would add some substance to the converation but you would just abuse it.

Speaking of substance abuse.

Fun Micheal Weiner factoids.

Mikey Weiner used to work with Timothy Leary and was hired precisely because he didn't use LSD.

Mikey Weiner used to advocate legalising marijuana but since he became Mikey Savage he now denounces the idea.

Sounds like a case of split personaility.

Don't you concur, Doctor Rex?

Say, ya know who else advocates legalisation?

Be Well.

Kid, as to Dr. Laura, if you don't know the difference between physiology and psychology, I'm not going help you out.

You haven't responded to #154 with your vast knowledge garnered via your 'Master's Degree' in psychology. (tee hee hee).

Weiner's a lunatic. That's evident to anyone who isn't a lunatic. And one doesn't even need a "Master's Degree" to be able to figure that out.

And, hey. I was being perfectly frank

I could care less about Savage, Spud, I think he is a blow hard.

I do, however, agree with him about autism being over diagnosed.

Frank, you're a moron, one who knows only what he reads left leaning blogs and quick checks of wikipedia.

You've already been dismissed.

www.youtube.com

Where is the chatter, boys?

Ah, a master of supposition.

So, you figure I'm a Democrat because I mock your silly claim of degrees and point out Michael Weiner's lack of medical training while spouting his 'opinions' about autism?

Nice try at deflecting #154 though. You obviously don't have the training or education to offer a viable opinion, so you're acting 14.

Weiner is a .... well, weiner (in the pejorative sense of the word).

Please, Dr. Zeitgeist, dazzle us all with your brilliance! So far, from what I've read of your posts you're suffering from delusions and grossly inhibited emotional development.

That's just being perfectly frank.

Franky, you're responding from emotion, that and whatever your other personalty is on this site.

Do you base whatever argument you have (and I', not sure what that argument is) on someone else's 'facts'.

What is your argument regarding Savage and autism?

www.youtube.com

Still waiting....

I like Sam Gribbles

Hahahahaha, Brother 1st....what up man?

Good to see you...

What are you doing up so early?

(I'm smoking dope all night, and watching scary movies)

Back hurts...can't sleep.....coffeee helps...How's life?

Sorry about that man, I understand......

Life....well, I will tell you about that at home base.

But every time I talk to you is good....

I scored some fantastic smoke sunday...I'm watching Evil Dead 2 right now...

Here's some more Aussie rock you may like...

Kickin, as usual man...

www.youtube.com

37 Stitches

www.youtube.com

Man, I am getting fucking stoned...

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Doors...Universal Mind

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Man, I am getting fucking stoned...

#183 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-05-06 06:11 AM | Reply | Flag: OVER-SMOKES TO FAKE AUTISM

www.youtube.com

WOW!

Is it Friday night already?

Way to hijack a thread, "king"!

Still waiting....

#174 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

As am I...

...for you to address my post #154.

I can't presently debate what the "Savage" Weiner has to say about autism, because all I can find relates back to the brat comment.

See for yourself:
LMGTFY: Michael Weiner Autism
LMGTFY: Michael Savage Autism

OTOH, you said, "you had no idea who he is or what he has written", leading me to believe you may be familiar with his work. That's why I asked if you might be able to clue me in on his arguments -- again, my #154!

Re: autism being overdiagnosed - check my #145. It could be. Let's see some evidence for your claim that this is "the global warming of of child behavior"?

A lot of what I find are people's opinions, and the (obvious) statement that the number of "autistics" changes depending upon how you define the disorder.

Is there a brightline between autism and not-autism of which you are aware, Rex? When is someone "just a little slow", as opposed to autistic?

The scope of disorders labelled "autism" is very broad their interactions still poorly understood -- cases can involve many comorbid disorders.

If you had read any of my links, you'd see that there is some VERY promising work being done on this subject nonetheless.

If you want to have any semblance of a reasonable exchange (do you?), you really ought to support your positions; I've made mine readily accessible.

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

In # 82 you reference Limbaugh. I have yet to see any politician say he should be taken off the air.

Plenty of Dems abound who are talking about the "Fairness Doctrine" - a blatant attempt to take off the air people who spew opinions contrary to the DNC mission.

This is sheer insanity. Savage banned from UK? I don't know where to begin. Who's next? Limbaugh? Hannity? O'Reilly? Boortz? Beck? Coulter?

Of all the talk show hosts/pundits, Savage uses logic in his reasoning more than anyone I've come across. This is what frightens me most. Do I have to begin to question my own sanity? This is downright alarming and has the potential to send any clear thinking individual into panic mode. Conservatives are being told, "think like us or die." And how will death come? By means of insanity. Just when you think things can't get any worse...the DHS issues a report on the new "terrorist" facing America. This move by the UK is just as unnerving. It's almost as if the powers that be are attempting to insight violence from a group of people (who happen to be the majority) who are rarely violent except for a few complete wack jobs who we all call out as such. McVeigh, and that Rudolph wack job who bombed that abortion clinic. Are we to be grouped with those nut cakes? God help us all.

This is sheer insanity. Savage banned from UK? I don't know where to begin. Who's next? Limbaugh? Hannity? O'Reilly? Boortz? Beck? Coulter?

Of all the talk show hosts/pundits, Savage uses logic in his reasoning more than anyone I've come across. This is what frightens me most. Do I have to begin to question my own sanity? This is downright alarming and has the potential to send any clear thinking individual into panic mode. Conservatives are being told, "think like us or die." And how will death come? By means of insanity. Just when you think things can't get any worse...the DHS issues a report on the new "terrorist" facing America. This move by the UK is just as unnerving. It's almost as if the powers that be are attempting to insight violence from a group of people (who happen to be the majority) who are rarely violent except for a few complete wack jobs who we all call out as such. McVeigh, and that Rudolph wack job who bombed that abortion clinic. Are we to be grouped with those nut cakes? God help us all.

rather than even try and tell each one of you seperately
lets just blanket this

MOST OF YOU ARE IGNORANT of what you speak
if you listen to savage for more than just a few moments or talk shit because of what you read from here or the media about him, you are sadly ignorant of some facts.
I have listened to him BASH BUSH so hard and often that I have sworn off of him and he continues....EVEN YESTEREDAY TO BASH THE FOX NEWS network even more than many here.
hannity is the leprchan and he goes after rush and fox altogether>>>JUST AS I HEARD HIM LAST NIGHT
I would think that kind of rhetoric would endear him to most of you not elicit some sort of comments based on ignorance of the man
AH but that doesnt stop many of you before so why start now

MOST OF YOU ARE IGNORANT of what you speak
#198 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-05-06 11:25 AM | Reply | Flag: The Voice of Inerrancy

AND LETS LOOK AT THIS JACKIE SMITH

she has done away with the word terrorist and now says 'anti islamic groups' so as to not insult muslims in britian.....(SOUND FAMILIAR)

and she wanted to set up a date bank in the governmnet of ALL INTERNET POSTS FROM EVERY BRIT...when govent siad no,,,SHE NOW requires facebook and others TO KEEP THAT DATE AT THE COST OF billions..........(SOUNDS FAMILIAR) (medical records)

there is even supposed to be an elected member of parliment on the list

so lets summarize.....

free speech advocate
politician
government list of critics

YEP>...just what I thought.

GENTLEMEN AND LADIES OF THE RETORT

HERE IS A LOOK INTO OUR FUTURE.

you know unless the ACLU is now busy preparing a defense for savage...yeah sure they are...

doc..you know good and well I was coming from the ignorant idea of people here not listening to him and not from an IQ perspective...so dont go there...........

"you know good and well I was coming from the ignorant idea..."

10-4

nice work of turning that around

you are a true scholar
work on the gentlemen shit and you might actually amount to something someday....

WELL you know with some government affirmative action programs and the nanny govenment doing everything for you....hee hee

Surpise of surprises!

Rex Zeitgeist enters this thread roaring like a lion, and exits mewling like a kitten separated from its mother.

Tell the institution at which you "earned" your "Master's Degree" that you just got shut down by someone who hasn't even applied yet for their Master's program! More money for the sticky-icky, amirite?

Anyway, I just thought I would check in. Get high for me today - I've got a lot of stuff to do until I can take a few tokes later this evening!

*More money for the sticky-icky, amirite?

That is, if you can get a refund...

GO SAVAGE !!!

www.youtube.com

GO to hell SAVAGE !!!

Fixed it for you BS...

Was that you Zombie who called Savage's show?

England has every right to ban whom they choose, especially if they consider that person a dangerous troublemaker. Apparently they put M.Savage into that category since from their vantage point he is. They do not need anyone's approval or agreement.

Given the situation the English face, the most volatile in Europe, I think they should do even more banning of potential troublemakers.

Was that you Zombie who called Savage's show?

You wish...

...close your eyes and open your mouth, BS...

... after all, it isn't what goes into your mouth that makes you unclean, but what comes out. That means you should swallow my load.

I wonder why the British Home Office bans Michael Savage, but not this band from entering their lovely country? I guess the Home Office believes such bands are wholesome good fun!

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Given the situation the English face, the most volatile in Europe, I think they should do even more banning of potential troublemakers.

They should ban anyone who doesn't toe the leftist line!

*rolls eyes*

tow

tow

#214 | Posted by JeffJ

You were right the first time.

I love how Savage says he's going to sue... like that will get anywhere...

I can't wait until he makes a statement in front of a courtroom. It's so easy when you give people rope and they go hang themseleves.

They should ban anyone who doesn't toe the leftist line!

*rolls eyes*

Posted by JeffJ at 2009-05-06 02:09 PM | Reply

Funny Dubya banned anyone that disagreed with Him from His campaign "Townhall" meetings yet You don't remember those times. I wonder why JeffJ????

Larry

They should ban anyone who doesn't toe the leftist line!

*rolls eyes*

#213 | Posted by JeffJ at 2009

get ready...this is our future...and proof of that

HELL DHS has already put me and millions of other americans on a list to watch out for.

and with LARRY lurking around every corner you would think she would watch him a LOT MORE THAN ME>.....

AND LARRYBUD

obama does the very same thing to some extent...

remember when the ladies with the islam headgear were REMOVED FROM the camera angles
surely he wasnt worried about THAT was he?????

and how about that sign of jesus at the infomercial at the university not long ago.....

What Savage did was speak out against Islamo Faciests taking over England... Also he spoke out against the Federal Gvt for the last eight years. He was just as harsh to Bush as he was to Obama.

Any 60's liberal would disagree with what he says but Die fighting for his right to say it... I watched Archie Bunker too.... Hey Meat Head!!!!!! Where the hell are you now?

Savage weiner is a former San Francisco peter-puffer who had sex with Alan Ginsburg. A flower power-mushroom eater who found his true calling as a Reagenite hate-monger. wuss. Why hasn't he served?
A pimple on his ass as well?

Maybe he'll try to sue me for slander...or maybe he'll call on the ACLU for help.

Pro Israel psychopath.....

The best thing about the British government are the parliamentary debates. The prime minister and the opposition leader go at each other, without teleprompters.

Could you imagine Obama and Steele going at it? It would be like the dirty dozens at the Apollo.

However, I would agree that autism could be overdiagnosed - be it a doctor simply mistaking other symptoms for autism for one reason or another, or if parents are pressing for some kind of diagnosis for a "problem child".

#145 | Posted by Zarathustra

How about 1 out of 150 kids is diagnosed with autism--is that an overdiagnosis?

And Savage was pointing to the over medicating of our kids--that is his complaint with autism.

He admits there are many who do have autism and he is not speaking about them--he is talking about anyone who goes to the quacks to put their kids on drugs.

And Larry--like Obama doesn't pick and choose his friggin people going into his townhall meetings.

Give me a break!

They all do it!

I can't wait until he makes a statement in front of a courtroom. It's so easy when you give people rope and they go hang themseleves.

#216 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Like many things ZH--you underestimate this man's intelligence--which is more than I can say for you.

And finally--Rex--you have a Master's in Psychology?

That is sexy! ;o)

They all do it!

#224 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-05-06 10:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bush certainly did it, but you didn't have a problem with that. If Obama now does it (and I'm not sure of that), it's you're fault for not speaking up when your criticism might have meant something.

And finally--Rex--you have a Master's in Psychology?

That is sexy! ;o)

#226 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-05-06 10:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's what Rex claimed, but I haven't heard any more about it. Where did you get your degree, Rex?

After seven years of study, I received my C.D.O.* from the University of South Florida.

*College Drop Out

Like many things ZH--you underestimate this man's intelligence

So what is he going to do? Pull a Johnson and amaze them with his impressive vocabulary during a racist tirade?

If you judge him by past behavior, we're all in store for a show.

Bush certainly did it, but you didn't have a problem with that. If Obama now does it (and I'm not sure of that), it's you're fault for not speaking up when your criticism might have meant something.

#227 | Posted by BetelG

Why would I complain about if they all do it!

They all do it!

I am not complaining--Larry was complaining.

#230 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Just admit you don't know anything about him or his views.

Does he go over the top--sure!

But he is not a racist.

Bush began it in the 'town hall meetings', with "loyalty oaths" even. For you to now claim that "they all do it" is either ignorant or disingenuous.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with ignorant.

And Savage does not belong on a list with murderers and nazis and muslim clerics who preach killing infidels.

Did they ever give the complete list of 16 who are banned? Last check they missed or purposely omitted 6.

Murphy-
Savage merely refers to various ethnic groups as "vermin".

You know what Boyd--it's whoever's friggin townhall meeting--so what!

Don't act so offended.

You say it's fine for Obama--what is your point?

Bush can't but Obama can?

How is that koolaid tasting?

Murphy-
I didn't say it was fine for Obama. It has not been established that Obama does it. Bush certainly did it, and not a peep out of you...

Boyd--if you are a listener--you would know that his vermin are (your heroes maybe?) the criminals, the illegal immigrants and mooches off the welfare system. He is critical of the drug companies, gay agenda, Bush and now Obama.

He proclaims language, culture and borders.

Like I said--sometimes he is over the top.

Murphy-
You jumped from the fact that you can't deny Bush did it to "They all do it".

Do you see the problem here?

Anyways, I'm heading out in a few. Carry on.

Boyd--how many times do I have to spell this out for you?

I don't care!

I don't care that Bush wanted Code Pink out and his supporters in a townhall meeting.

And I don't friggin care if Obama does the same.

Obama--right--like he would let Joe the Plumber into one of his precious meetings to ask the really hard question about anything and come up with Doh! as his answer!

Like Obama who won't call on any of the press corp to would ask a decent question.

Obama who is the teleprompter in chief.

Obama who is heading the WH to quash any dissent and does the Alinsky Rule #13 every chance he gets.

Obama who would sign a Fairness Doctrine bill in a heart beat.

Yes--Obama the fair minded and open to all dissent.

Do you get the picture--Boyd?

Boyd--where --in what post did I ever claim that Bush denied his supporters into his townhall meetings?

Bush did it!!!!!

And so does Obama!!!!!

Get it???

How about 1 out of 150 kids is diagnosed with autism--is that an overdiagnosis?

#223 | Posted by MURPHY

I'll let you talk to your boy, king Rex, about rampant overdiagnosis. He's the one saying it's the "global warming" of child behavior.

Did you read the part, earlier in the thread, where I explained how there might be difficulties in making this diagnosis?

I'm saying it could happen (lack of understanding, bad doctor, crazy parents, etc). Rex is saying it does happen, all the time; the whole thing is a sham.

Big difference!

Please, don't assign me false positions, especially those held by scheisskopf Zeitgeist.

Also, you're terribly gullible if you believe the king of blawgberg's line of bullshit about his fake degree.

And thus stated ZARATHUSTRA

Bush can't but Obama can?

How is that koolaid tasting?

At Obama's last townhall meeting in California the audience was composed of people who lined up for the tickets as opposed to Bush's pre-selected faithful.

Obama had no fervent supporters placed up front within camera range like Bush did.

Obama did not require people at his townhall to swear a personal loyatly oath the way Bush did.

The questions were not pre-selected as with Bush.

Obama spoke without a teleprompter.

He did just fine.

You can say there's no difference between the two but most people know better.

Be Well.

Murphy please stop frigging (again)

Oh, and Jacqui Smith is a frigging bitch whose husband watches friggin porn that she claims on her frigging expense account.

Welcome to the modern world.

We may even get a tantrum from this one???

The United States of America grants us the opportunity to say what we feel and broadcast our beliefs. Unfortunately we have to extend this right to citizens like Michael Savage. Michael Savage has flashed his education like a badge to justify his idiotically sad ideas. I have the same level of education and have been very fortunate in life. I was not born that way I simply made this happen for myself and my family. I applaud Dr. Savage for his achievements and stand up for his right to freedom of speech. I am simply expressing my right to the same freedom. For the thousands of Americans who stand behind Dr. Savage, my heart goes out to you, you will never be allowed a moment to speak to your idol, for he loves to hear his voice to much to let you speak. For that matter my heart goes out to Dr. Savage. I cannot imagine living with so much hatred and disdain for everything in this life. Dr. Savage was fortunate enough to grasp a late night spot on national radio, thus allowing him to share this pessimistic view with all who listen.

I have to say BRAVO To the Brits, as well as Dr. Savage. Very well played The Brits have done what they feel is right but have now given this personality a huge amount of free publicity. I do love the way all media works, no press is bad press. I got exactly what I expected from Dr. Savage. A yelling tantrum on national radio and a milking of this incident to the last drop BRAVO Doc I would love the opportunity to allow my two year old to join you one evening during one of his tantrums, although we may not be able to tell you two apart. We better get a strategy before we do that.

Dr. Savage is neither a leader nor anyone who should ever be granted anything more than, the creator of good radio drama. His show is simply radios version of the overdramatized and overacted reality shows we so love today. Anger and tantrums create a captive audience, and there is no one better to deliver those great acting skills as our Dr. Savage. I Thank God that our nations majority would never allow such a negative pessimistic person to lead our country, and I wish for Dr. Savage that he finds a more pleasant life and dedicates his national power of persuasion to a more positive approach.
"Put the spoon down, Dr. Savage, and leave the pot alone, we don't need anyone else to stir it, but if we do, we know who is best fit for that task"

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