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Monday, April 27, 2009

New swine flu feared to be weaponized strain

By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer


Apr 27, 2009, 00:12


According to two mainstream media journalists, one in Mexico City and the other in Jakarta, who spoke to WMR on background, they are convinced that the current outbreak of a new strain of swine flu in Mexico and some parts of the United States is the result of the introduction of a human-engineered pathogen that could result in a widespread global pandemic, with potentially catastrophic consequences for domestic and international travel and commerce.

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Well if this is a weaponized flu strain they sure seem to have done a shitty job. I mean the mortality rate doesn't seem to be all that high. And they're not even sure if it is highly infectious.

The drugs Tamiflu and Relenza are seen as the most effective against A-H1N1.

You fucking fool. This strain isn't that virulent, and giving antivirals to people who don't have a life-threatening illness only accelerates the evolution of resistance. These drugs are our ace-in-the-hole and you pander to this panic that is causing them to be used irresponsibly.

Um, hate to burst your bubble Jeffy, but the spanish flu is an A/H1N1 virus, and it's been circulating in human populations off and on since 1918. The reason it doesn't kill us anymore, despite having accumulated only minor changes in the intervening time, is that our immune systems are no longer naive to it. The virus has also adapted to us as hosts, so it does not cause as severe of disease. Some of the H1N1 strains circulated in pigs instead of humans, and adapted to that host. They have recently evolved the ability to infect and pass directly between humans.

"Resurrecting" the 1918 flu was a milestone for virology. Sequencing its genome is essential to know how influenza A evolves. Just because the government has a slew of A/H1N1 viruses on ice doesn't mean that they're behind every person infected with one. These things have been honed by evolution into pathogens remarkably efficient at transmitting between hosts. Give mother nature her due. I believe the last flu season was dominated by human-adapted H1N1 viruses - mother nature's own work. You see a consipracy in everything. Even in the spiders that crawl out of your walls when you haven't taken your antipsychotics in a couple of days.

I know this must be a bitter pill to swallow for you, Skidmark. You'd much rather live in a fantasyland where the reptiles are spreading flu to keep us all slaves or something like that, but you should seriously take some Haldol, read a book, and shut the fuck up. You are clueless.

Well if this is a weaponized flu strain they sure seem to have done a shitty job. I mean the mortality rate doesn't seem to be all that high. And they're not even sure if it is highly infectious.

Jeff doesn't know shit. Weaponized? Seriously?

Let's see here - it isn't too virulent, and it is susceptible to antivirals. Do you know that it is certainly within the capability of our government to engineer an influenza virus that expresses almost any sort of virulence gene they want, or create a strain resistant to all anti-influenza drugs currently approved? If the Illuminati wanted to fuck us over like that, they most certainly could do it. Pick up the bong, jeff. The more you smoke, the less horseshit you will post.

Have you ever considered that the people who study these sorts of things are actually doing it for the betterment of humanity? To cure disease instead of causing it? What you're suggesting is anathema to most people on the face of the earth - and the rest are a deranged minority.

By the way, "weaponization" usually refers to what you do to get the agent in a form where it can be disseminated and persist in an environment. This virus evolved and it certainly it wasn't "weaponized". I guess if you don't believe in evolution, though, you have to make up some reason for this outbreak.

There, Jeff, I've got you to 5 posts now. Let's see how many people actually buy into your delusional rants.

Yeah Zombiehead,
That's where this strain comes from. The US military dug up some dead sailors from 1919 that died from this flu and reconstituted it in a lab.
Also this flu hasn't become serious yet. First it has to recombine in it's host carrier, then it will become even more deadly.
Also, If this isn't serious, then why has the US declared it a health emergency?
Denial is cool until reality catches up to you.


There, Jeff, I've got you to 5 posts now. Let's see how many people actually buy into your delusional rants.

Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-04-27 11:57 AM |

Does anyone actually read them?

Read what?

You're a moron ZOmbiehead.
You try and turn everything into a personal popularity contest about me.
What a douche bag.
All I do is post the articles. I don't write them. Or invent them somehow.

According to a source known to former NSA official Wayne Madsen, "A top scientist for the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, concluded that H1N1 possesses certain transmission "vectors" that suggest that the new flu strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon.
www.infowars.com
I don't care what you think anyway. Go stand next to someone caughing, and sneezing....

You must have read it Kanary. You're here posting on it. Or are you just posting out of your ass without reading the article?
Don't bother answering that question. I already know the answer.

"Weaponized" flu?? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!



******** CHEMTRAILS ********


Yeah, somewhere there are terrorist scientists working to create a disease that just makes Americans uncomfortable for a couple of days....riiight!

You must have read it Kanary. You're here posting on it. Or are you just posting out of your ass without reading the article?

Neither as my comment had nothing to do with the article, but in response to something another poster said.

There, Jeff, I've got you to 5 posts now. Let's see how many people actually buy into your delusional rants.

Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-04-27 11:57 AM |

Does anyone actually read them?

#7 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-04-27 11:58 AM |

See how that works Jeff?

Just a few minutes ago on ABC News, they said that this seems to be a milder strain with only mild to moderate normal flu symptoms. However to be fair, Fox News will likely have a different view calling it the "Killa from Manila". With news you pick the one you feel is accurate most often and try to live with it. The main exception to this rule being Fox. Don't get me started on that POS.

Remember SARS!

"That's where this strain comes from. The US military dug up some dead sailors from 1919 that died from this flu and reconstituted it in a lab."

Just because the original 1918 H1N1 has been reconstituted doesn't mean that's where this came from. H1N1 strains have been circulating since 1918 and this would have arisen even if we hadn't reconstituted the original 1918 virus.


"Also this flu hasn't become serious yet. First it has to recombine in it's host carrier, then it will become even more deadly."

Jeff, why do you try to use scientific terms that you clearly have no idea what they mean? Do you even know what recombine means in the context of influenza viruses, let alone understand its significance?

The virus has already recombined in pigs, why do you think there is genetic material from human, swine and avian influenza viruses?

"The UN expert believes that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 swine flu virus are biological warfare agents."

Great article, Jeffy. Two anonymous sources, one of whom believes ebola and HIV/AIDS are biowarfare agents, claiming something that has no scientific backing and you believe it completely.

I guess it's easy to swallow shit when you like the taste.

JWP Comes up for air from his ass licking.
I never claimed to be a scientist.
Why do you peabrains always try and make it about me?
You can't come up with any childish personalizations about the facts of the articles I post So you have to always try and make it about me.
Losers...

You people are delusional...
feel bad for a couple of days? 200? people have died in Mexico...
The US has declared a health emergency.

Chemtrails....
What a fucking moron.

Just because you are arrogant and opinionated doesn't mean you know what is going on in the world.
Arrogant and opinionated people are the last to know.

"I never claimed to be a scientist."

And yet you attempt to speak authoritatively about scientific topics.

"Why do you peabrains always try and make it about me?
You can't come up with any childish personalizations about the facts of the articles I post So you have to always try and make it about me."

What you post are not facts and the information (being generous with that term) is usually so bad and/or inaccurate that there's no reason to address it. So yeah, it becomes about you because you defend it and propagate it, all the while lamenting that us sheeple need to "wake up".

"Losers..."

LOL

There's lots of factual evidence to back up the claims of weoponized viruses. Like HIV an Ebola. These viruses were constructed in a lab. Do your own research. Or remain ignorant.
I really don't care what you imbeciles think. I get good laughs from your childish attempts at insulting me. Or what ever it is you do?

200? people have died in Mexico...

#20 | Posted by JeffnDenmark

And how many people die each year of the normal flu? I think in the States it is between 30k to 50k. I imagine it has to be worse in a shithole like Mexico. I think the major concern with this virus is that is doing well in warmer climes which is atypical of a respiratory infection. So if it did meet up with a more virulent and infectious virus it could kick up a shitstorm.

yet you attempt to speak authoritatively about scientific topics.

No I don't. I just post the articles and then make comments on all of retards opinions with my own opinions.
But at least I post news article to back up my opinions. That's more than I can say for you cheese dicks.

Weaponized Avian Flu Report ( July 29, 2008)
The recent and in depth look at the nature of the weaponized Avian Flu. A virus that was not abled to affect the human population in pandemic fashion but it has been exposed to human kidney cells to make it familiar with the human immune system. Sanofi -Pateur has created a vaccine scheduled for release in August 2008 making it fit in time for the '08
www.scribd.com

Just because you are arrogant and opinionated doesn't mean you know what is going on in the world.
Arrogant and opinionated people are the last to know

Whereas uneducated fools who eagerly lick up whatever puddle of nonsense that happens to ooze their computer screen... are so wise!

What you post are not facts and the information (being generous with that term) is usually so bad and/or inaccurate that there's no reason to address it.

How would you know. You already admit your ignorance. What I have said about influenza viruses is well-supported. By primary sources.

What you have is scraped from the bilges of the internet.

#23 | Posted by astrobuckeye

I agree....

but danni said,
"that just makes Americans uncomfortable for a couple of days."
I was pointing out her obvious understatement.

Post a link Zombiehead. I do...

#28 | Posted by JeffnDenmark

Yes but in the 40 or so cases with Americans so far no one has died. So her statement was accurate.

All the time......

As to what you have posted earlier:

That's where this strain comes from. The US military dug up some dead sailors from 1919 that died from this flu and reconstituted it in a lab.
Also this flu hasn't become serious yet. First it has to recombine in it's host carrier, then it will become even more deadly.
Also, If this isn't serious, then why has the US declared it a health emergency?
Denial is cool until reality catches up to you.
I'm sure the CDC, USAMRIID, and any other lab that does work on influenza A viruses have about every imaginable strain of influenza A on ice. Of course they have strains of H1N1! How the fuck do you think they diagnosed these cases? You have to have the strain or something similar in order to compare it with isolates from patients. You are just so oblivious to the way these things work that you eat up these conspiracy theories - I mean for fuck's sake, you can't even use the proper terminology to talk about how these things.

When you say that this strain isn't dangerous yet - that is completely true. None of the strains circulating are dangerous - yet. No one can predict or control what will happen with any great certainty. If the Illuminati Reptiles decided to release this strain, it's beyond their control now (and they sure picked a lousy one to use to fuck with us poor warm-blooded bastards). My point is that they don't need to be "weaponized" or engineered to become dangerous.

Pigs are these infernal animals that are capable of being infected with a whole panopoly of avian, human, and swine influenza viruses by virtue of the way sialic acid appears on the cells lining their respiratory tract. When they get infected by two different kinds of influenza A virus (say, a human H1N1 and an avian H5N1 virus) the two can undergo reassortment and produce a killer. I think this is what you meant by "recombination in a host carrier". Recombination is a different process, and it doesn't have as much to do with the evolution of pandemic influenza. This is no engineered outbreak - this is nature giving us a minor wake-up call. Nature is perfectly capable of creating horrors beyond our ability to comprehend, and it's a good thing we've been reminded of this potential.

It is a "health emergency" because it is going to be like a second flu season with a nastier flu bug, and there is no protective vaccine yet. When you're dealing with influenza A, you're always teetering on the brink of a health emergency given the virus' evolutionary potential. This isn't a "health emergency" in the same sense as a it would be if there were a pandemic of a more virulent strain. Denial is a terrible thing - but the "denialists" have been the people who are unwilling to fund research or revamp the US vaccine industry to the point where the country could respond soon enough should a pandemic strain evolve. Look at the republicans - Jindal was blasting "wasteful" influenza preparedness spending not too long ago.

Oh, yeah, I forgot. Vaccines are the devil. Fucking moron. I don't know where your "sources" come from, but I know influenza viruses, and I also know that your sources lack a basic understanding of virology. I don't care what backstory they make up for themselves. They are fools, and have attracted the following of similar individuals.

Post a link Zombiehead. I do...

Multiple Reassortment Events in the Evolutionary History
of H1N1 Influenza A Virus Since 1918

The genomic and epidemiological dynamics of human influenza A virus

Here is plenty of evidence for you to ignore. There's more where that came from, too.

40 dead = uncomfortable for a couple of days?
Ohkay....

40 dead = uncomfortable for a couple of days?


3 at the most...then a new faith is born.

A quote from the first article:

Following the 1918 pandemic, the A/H1N1 influenza virus continued to circulate in humans, causing seasonal epidemics of varying severity [4] and also in swine, as classical' swine influenza [5]. In the post-pandemic period, epidemiologically severe outbreaks occurred in 19281929, 19321933, 19361937, and 19431944 in the United Kingdom [4] and the United States [6]. In 1947, the A/H1N1 virus underwent a major antigenic change that caused a total vaccine failure [7]. The virus was globally distributed much like a pandemic virus, but mortality was relatively low [8]. The virus was renamed A-prime' based on its antigenic divergence [9] from the previously characterized human A/H1N1 viruses of the early 1940's, although subsequent sequence analysis showed that these 1947 viruses were still of the A/H1N1 subtype, yet with numerous nucleotide and amino acid differences in antigenic regions of the hemagglutinin (HA)[10]. However, the evolutionary and epidemiological processes that precipitated such extensive divergence are currently unclear.

Can't you see that history is just repeating itself? Or were the lizard-people behind that one too?

Zombie,
Similarly, how genomic processes relate to global influenza epidemiology, in which the A/H3N2 and A/H1N1 subtypes co-circulate, is poorly understood.

Wow! You really got me there!

What does that have to do with the bullsht you're standing knee-deep in?

Will they weaponize a kosher strand for Israel and a "pork-free" version for the rest of the Middle East?

My point is that this is a virus that is completely natural in origin. You think that "they" engineered it. I have evidence that there is precedent for these sorts of events. You have rants from a shitty website.

Read the bit about the 1947 outbreak. A new strain emerged and spread worldwide - there was a vaccine failure, but not a pandemic with high mortality. People weren't heavy into influenza epidemiology back then - but the point is there is a pool of diversity in other species (birds, pigs) from which influenza viruses are constantly being sampled and introduced into the human population. Influenza is constantly re-emerging. It's happened so often in recent history I'm shocked that people actually buy this line about it being "engineered". The virus was "engineered" by evolution and chance to have the opportunity to constantly re-emerge in humans.

Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

By Helen Branswell, THE CANADIAN PRESS

Last Updated: 27th February 2009, 3:26pm

The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses.

And an official of the World Health Organization's European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International's research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.

"At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present," medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark.

"But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau."

The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.

The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn't die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.

While H5N1 doesn't easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.
www.torontosun.com

Eugenics....

Will they weaponize a kosher strand for Israel and a "pork-free" version for the rest of the Middle East?

God is saving bird flu for the people who don't dine on swine.

Or... maybe "lamb flu" with a side of Ebola-infested chickpeas.

Well thank...um, well, G-d for that.

You just know there is a Rabbi or Iman somewhere right now saying "I told you about pork, but you wouldn't listen!"

Eugenics....

Or for the non-paranoid, a stupid mistake that fortunately didn't amount to much.

You just know there is a Rabbi or Iman somewhere right now saying "I told you about pork, but you wouldn't listen!"

Oh, Israel will get its share of swine flu, too. They raise pigs there, they just don't eat them. You're better off eating the pig than letting it cough on you.

Eugenics....

No, virology. Viruses mutate and combine all the time. They adapt, and humans adapt to them. It's the natural order of things.

In Mexico, many of the supposed swine flu deaths haven't even been confirmed to *be* swine flu. Their public health system is, I'd imagine, not much better functioning than other parts of their government. There's a lot of rumors and misinformation and hysteria flying around, and it's a lot more contagious than most flus.

Swine flu is something to be on guard for, but the level of hysteria in the U.S. is excessive.

Swine flu is something to be on guard for, but the level of hysteria in the U.S. is excessive.

#48 | Posted by rcade at 2009-04-27 02:15 PM

Like I said before, remember SARS

Swine flu is something to be on guard for, but the level of hysteria in the U.S. is excessive.

March Madness ends, and April Outbreak begins... at this rate, we will be invaded by aliens in early September.

We already were...Welles was a patsy!

July 17, 2008
Scientists make gene link to African HIV epidemic
A genetic variant peculiar to Africans substantially raises their risk of infection with HIV, according to research that suggests evolved susceptibility may be helping to drive the continent's Aids epidemic.

The 90 per cent of Africans who carry the DNA variation are 40 per cent more likely to contract HIV than those without it, after similar exposure to the virus, scientists from Britain and America have found.

As the genetic change is common among people of African ancestry but virtually unknown among other ethnic groups, it could explain in part why HIV-Aids is more prevalent in sub-Saharan Africa. The United Nations estimates that 22.5 million people there are HIV-positive, more than two thirds of the global total of approximately 33.2 million.
www.timesonline.co.uk

Eugenics...

You know... You can read the titles of some threads and just know it's Jeff, The Pussy Who Fled To Denmark!

Thanks from saving us from ourselves, Coward!

Total Proof of Swine Flu Scam - Doctor ADMITS it is man-made in a Laboratory
www.youtube.com
The Swine Flu is an orchestrated attempt to spread fear and chaos into the population and to try to get people vaccinated, which everyone should know contains mercury that damages your nervous system. Mercury, of course, is one of the most toxic substances you can put in a human body. It is a heavy metal known to contribute to neurological disorders, including autism, dementia, and even Alzheimer's disease. Mercury also tends to build up in tissues in the human body and is not easily removed, so even small exposures to mercury can accumulate over time and end up compromising the health of the person involved. This doctor fully admits that it was 'cultured in a laboratory' and most people will not even realize that he stated this in the news because they are so ignorant and do not pay attention to actual facts when they are presented to them and only look to what the media is spinning the news to be for the benefit of the government. The media is owned by the global elite and you only hear what they want you to hear. This is a rare glimpse into an official who actually admits that it was manufactured in a lab.

Eugenics...

HIV-1 emerged before that was known. It's evolution.

You are the biggest fucking lemming I've ever seen, and what's funnier is that you accuse others of being sheep. You just believe whatever you find on the internet that says "they" are doing something horrible to "us". If you truly believe what you are posting, this condition must be the result of some underlying pathology. I'd say a long history of psychedelic use during the '70's and cocaine/MDMA use during the '80's.

jerrytarkanian the anonymous retard that uses many different names, and attacks from the hidden safety of his mom's basement calls me a coward.
ROFL...
At least I'm not afraid to show my real name and email address...Pusscake.

This doctor fully admits that it was 'cultured in a laboratory' and most people will not even realize that he stated this in the news because they are so ignorant and do not pay attention to actual facts when they are presented to them and only look to what the media is spinning the news to be for the benefit of the government.

Of course it's fucking "cultured in a laboratory". How the fuck are you supposed to do research? How the fuck are you supposed to make vaccines? How the fuck are you supposed to make a conclusive diagnosis if you don't have something to compare it to?

The media is owned by the global elite and you only hear what they want you to hear. This is a rare glimpse into an official who actually admits that it was manufactured in a lab.

Says the moron who wouldn't know a virology lab from a brothel.

You believe Obama is going to save America...
ROFLMAO

You believe everything the TV, and the government say's is true.And they're telling you the truth because they love you.
ROFLTIP

At least I'm not afraid to show my real name and email address...Pusscake.

As if that's the measure of a man. You are a fool, jeff, or you at least play one very convincingly.

Think for a second. There might be a conspiracy to depopulate the earth... but who would "they" want to get rid of? The intelligent and productive ones? Surely not. They need to purge the earth of its refuse - the feebleminded and dull. People like yourself.

"They" are starting conspiracy theories to discourage you from getting vaccinated so that you and your children will die. "They" are skimming the floaters from the gene pool. Starting with you.

My question to you - are you that stupid, or are you a "false flag" blogger from the conspirators side, trying to convince society's waste-cases to believe horseshit rumors and engage in risky practices?

You know a lot about brothels, I'm sure...

And so quick to stereotype...

I'm not particularly impressed by Obama - I'm just glad he's not Bush. Nor do I watch much TV other than sports. When I say you're a fool, though, I have you to a "t".

You know a lot about brothels, I'm sure...

I seem to remember having met your mother in one.

Get involved in the politics of Denmark and give us a fucking break, Jeff. It may surprise you to know that no one gives a rat's ass about the opinions of a conspiracy freak expatriate.

Go ahead and take they're shots then.
Me and my kids won't....

If you don't give a rats ass then why did you bother to take the time to post your stupid opinion?
Thanks for caring...

Go ahead and take they're shots then.
Me and my kids won't....

Natural selection will deal with you shortly.

If you don't give a rats ass then why did you bother to take the time to post your stupid opinion?
Thanks for caring...

It's not polite to pick on a retard in person, but it's acceptable to berate one on the internet (and just as fun!)

Part of the fun for me is to see how many comments I can get from you simpletons to post. It keeps my news story on the back page or front page longer.
Thanks for playing...

I gotta run, but feel free to keep on posting.

I know, That's why I string you along all the time.
Good night. I gotta get up early.
If I didn't I would stay here and outwit you some more.

I would stay here and outwit you some more.

Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-04-27 02:50 PM |

Jeff outwits people? Now why does he keep those posts to himself instead of the tripe he normally posts?

If I didn't I would stay here and outwit you some more.

Okay, buddy. Keep swinging at those windmills. G'night.

I thought there was a rule about mothers and wives?

BTW, My mom is dead. If she was alive She would be 89 years old. So if you saw here at the whore house, It must have been when you were a baby living there with your mom.

They always said I was a precocious youngster...

So pigs and hogs have gotten together to go to war against Humans now is that it?? So I believe it was Animal Farm where the Animals turned on the humans. So how do we fight them JeffnDenmark?? Do we get a potato gun and shoot them with russets?? Or do we use the yellow Yukons?? Oh they do grow round potatoes we could use them in bazookas. I'll order some riot gear just in case.

Larry

Oh, I'm sure it will get dumped, but I couldn't resist the temptation.

#72 | Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-04-27 02:50 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: FUNNY

Because JnD can't outwit anybody. That would require wit.

Do we get a potato gun and shoot them with russets?? Or do we use the yellow Yukons?? Oh they do grow round potatoes we could use them in bazookas. I'll order some riot gear just in case.

Potatoes lack the stopping power of a little white pumpkin shoved down the barrel of a pumpkin cannon. I believe those things were instrumental in the Soviet defense of Leningrad. They'll take out a fucking Panzer.

Hey I don't want to shoot a pig/hog with a pumpkin. I mean I don't wanna get pig guts and pumpkin innards all over Me. I am trying to lose weight You see. If I shot a pig with a pumpkin cannon I'd be reminded of Thanksgiving and then become hungry. BAD IDEA.

Larry

Then I suggest using the high explosive fragmentation anti-swine pumpkin manufactured by Smith and Wesson. The parts that are left will be too small and too widely scattered to be appetizing.

U.S. Air Force Study Proposed 2009 Influenza Pandemic in 1996
On June 17, 1996, the U.S. Air Force released Air Force 2025, "a study designed to comply with a directive from the chief of staff of the Air Force to examine the concepts, capabilities, and technologies the United States will require to remain the dominant air and space force in the future." In the unclassified study, the College of Aerospace Doctrine, Research, and Education at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama posed several "fictional representations of future situations/scenarios" likely to arise.
www.fas.org
Eugenics...

Did you know that UFOs were designed by Nazis?

Did you know that UFOs were designed by Nazis?

#84 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-04-27 04:17 PM | Reply |

I knew that. I saw it on the internets.

#83 | POSTED BY JEFFNDENMARK

I noticed you didn't actually post a relevant excerpt from your link to show that the Air Force actually "Proposed 2009 Influenza Pandemic in 1996."

Is this because they didn't actually propose this and you're intellectually dishonest or because you didn't actually read the page and are intellectually dishonest?

Did you know that UFOs were designed by Nazis?
#84 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-04-27 04:17 PM | Reply |

I saw a video on youtube about that once.

Seem to recall an obscure report several months ago, that several Al Quaida types were found dead after diddling around with bio weapons somewhwere in the Mideast (Libya?) Anybody else recollect?

Did you know that UFOs were designed by Nazis?

If you thought the Jews had it bad, just look at the Martians. There's a reason our rovers haven't found any life there. Hitler and ConfusedNCopenhagen's Reptilian Strike Force got their first...

"Anybody else recollect?"

Yup, it was plague.


www.thesun.co.uk

Thank you Z-Man wsn't sure what sure what diabolical bio-terror they were concocting. I guess it worked.

If I didn't I would stay here and outwit you some more.

Really, Skidmark.....
Here's a dime-buy a clue...one should not get into a battle of wits-when they have sooooo little in the way of ammunition.

I saw it on the internets.

Some things, once seen, cannot be unseen no matter how much you wish it. Visit 4chan if you doubt me.

what tickles me is all of the talk about closing the border

HELLO...the law says we should everyday and not just when shit like this happens...

Er, are there populations that are particularly susceptible to this virus?

Stay calm everyone. Obama is monitoring this thing closely, that's what community organizers are for, after all.

In any event he's promising to spend 3 percent of GDP to make sure science stays on track and the government run colleges stay full with guppies that can't find their asses with both hands but can sign on the dotted line for student loans, and graduate with enough debt that the government can own them for life.


Never waste a good Crisis and if it's not a Crisis make it a Crisis.

"If it's not a crisis, make it a crisis..."

How many dead people before it's a crisis? They've already lost a couple hundred in Mexico.

This reminds me of how the Right played the pirate thing. If no dead kids you're going to say Obama over-reacted; if some dead kids then Obama failed.

Sure I'm calm---George W. Bush hasn't been president for almost one-hundred days.

"How many dead people before it's a crisis?"


Oh, I don't know. What's a couple hundred divided by, say, 6 billion?

Anyone die today from a heart attack, stroke, kidney disease, over eating, under eating (aka starvation), car accident, nasty fall?

In a week and a half you won't hear shit about this virus, except that the government learned a lot and needs more money to protect you.

In a week and a half you won't hear shit about this virus, except that the government learned a lot and needs more money to protect you.

In a week and a half, there will be cases on every continent except Antarctica, and the US will have seen flu-related deaths.


In a week and a half, there will be cases on every continent except Antarctica, and the US will have seen flu-related deaths.

#100 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-04-28 08:06 PM







According to CDC (the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention):


Each flu season is unique, but it is estimated that, on average, approximately 5% to 20% of U.S. residents get the flu, and more than 200,000 persons are hospitalized for flu-related complications each year. About 36,000 Americans die on average per year from the complications of flu. (Full)

To put this in perspective with Swineflu, WHO (The World Health Organisation) states:

As of 27 April 2009, the United States Government has reported 40 laboratory confirmed human cases of swine influenza A(H1N1), with no deaths. Mexico has reported 26 confirmed human cases of infection with the same virus, including seven deaths. Canada has reported six cases, with no deaths, while Spain has reported one case, with no deaths. (Full)

The BBC states (updated April 28th 7 pm):

Mexico: 152 suspected deaths - 20 confirmed cases; US: 64 confirmed cases; Canada: 6 confirmed cases; New Zealand: 3 confirmed cases; UK, Spain, Israel: 2 confirmed cases each. (Full)

And in a broader perspective:

An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001 and 2002, according to a study of 37 million patient records released in 2004. (Full)

36,000 die of flu every year, in the US alone. So far, dependent on the sources, 152 have died of swin

"Oh, I don't know...."

You weren't asked to know, you were asked for your opinion. In the event, you said nothing at all.

Variations of my question are often asked to the Right---How many casualties before you break a sweat?

The number must be quite high, in regards to various wars as well as diseases, because none of you will go on record.

How many casualties before you break a sweat?

It's basically time to hold on for the ride, now. It's out and propagating. Flu is unpredictable, when you get down to it, and that's a reason for concern and prudence. Not undue panic. Simple preventative measures can help reduce transmission of this disease, and responsible use of antivirals may be able to save lives.

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