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A Look Back at Predictions Made on the Original Earth Day We should all be dead by now :)

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This is funny!

Considering that in excess of Four Million People protested and demanded the US government do something to clean up our environment ultimately resulting in governmental actions (that's 3,750,000 more than attended ALL the Teabaggin parties combined) I would think that instead of listening to a crank like beck, you would be thanking all those who stood up and changed American environmental policy!

en.wikipedia.org

On July 9, 1970, President Nixon transmitted Reorganization Plan No. 3 to the United States Congress by executive order, creating the EPA as a single, independent agency from a number of smaller arms of different federal agencies. Prior to the establishment of the EPA, the federal government was not structured to comprehensively regulate the pollutants which harm human health and degrade the environment. The EPA was assigned the task of repairing the damage already done to the natural environment and to establish new criteria to guide Americans in making a cleaner, safer America.

Redneckville, are you suggesting that it was the EPA that averted the predicted ice age we were supposed to have by now? And the prediction of our standard of living falling down to 42 was insane. That low standard of living is what third-world countires in Africa had/have. Envirionmentalists need to get a grip, there is no need for alarmism.

"People will laugh 40 years from now at our current global warming hysteria."

Yup, sure they will --------- That is if you can conveniently forget any actions implemented between now and then to mitigate the potential damage.

Are you and your friend beck under the assumption that since 1970 Nothing has been done to prevent those predictions, and those things you do acknowledge being done, had no impact?

I mean, you really have to be dense and or ideologically bent to think that places like Love Canal cleaned themselves up and or news Love Canals weren't created out of the inherent goodness of business!
The reason we don't have many of those predictions is because Americans stood up and put a stop to the practices that were leading us down those roads!

And the reason why other predictions did not come true is because the people that made them were wrong.

This is kind of like the "Y2K Question" really: was Y2K much ado about nothing, or was Y2K avoided due to all the news before hand and the amount of work put in to stop it?

Raise your hands if you believe the world will end on 12/21/2012. Unlike Y2K, there is no preparation that can be done to avoid it.

Unlike Y2K, there is no preparation that can be done to avoid it.

Depends upon the cause really. The Mayans were not that clear on why they stopped. Personally, I believe 12/21/2012 is just the end of a cycle and life will keep on trucking on 12/22/2012 just as it did on 1/1/2000.

See, only in becks little fucked up construct does this (below) equate to nothing and thus not part of his evaluation and examination of "history".
You should be embarrassed that you even promoted this cranks ideas; I didn't think that you were that gullible.
Air
1955 - Air Pollution Control Act PL 84-159
1963 - Clean Air Act PL 88-206
1965 - Motor Vehicle Air Pollution Control Act PL 89-272
1966 - Clean Air Act Amendments PL 89-675
1967 - Air Quality Act PL 90-148
1969 - National Environmental Policy Act PL 91-190
1970 - Clean Air Act Extension PL 91-604
1976 - Toxic Substances Control Act PL 94-469
1977 - Clean Air Act Amendments PL 95-95
1990 - Clean Air Act Amendments PL 101-549
Water
1948 - Water Pollution Control Act PL 80-845
1965 - Water Quality Act PL 89-234
1966 - Clean Waters Restoration Act PL 89-753
1969 - National Environmental Policy Act PL 91-190
1970 - Water Quality Improvement Act PL 91-224
1972 - Federal Water Pollution Control Amendments of 1972 PL 92-500
1974 - Safe Drinking Water Act PL 93-523
1976 - Toxic Substances Control Act PL 94-469
1977 - Clean Water Act PL 95-217
1987 - Water Quality Act PL 100-4
1996 - Safe Drinking Water Act Amendments of 1996 PL 104-182
Land
1947 - Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act
1964 - Wilderness Act PL 88-577
1968 - Scenic Rivers Preservation Act PL 90-542
1969 - National Environmental Policy Act PL 91-190
1970 - Wilderness Act PL 91-504
1977 - Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act PL 95-87
1978 - Wilderness Act PL 98-625
1980 - Alaska Land Protection Act PL 96-487
1994 - California Desert Protection Act PL 103-433
1996 - Food Quality Protection Act
Endangered species
1946 - Coordination Act PL 79-732
1966 - Endangered Species Preservation Act PL 89-669
1969 - Endangered Species Conservation Act PL 91-135
1972 - Marine Mammal Protection Act PL 92-522
1973 - Endangered Species Act PL 93-205
Hazardous waste
1965 - Solid Waste Disposal Act PL 89-272
1969 - National Environmental Policy Act PL 91-190
1970 - Resource Recovery Act PL 91-512
1976 - Resource Conservation and Recovery Act PL 94-580
1980 - Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act ("Superfund") PL 96-510
1982 - Nuclear Waste Repository Act PL 97-425
1984 - Hazardous and Solid Wastes Amendments Act PL 98-616
1986 - Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act PL 99-499
2002 - Small Business Liability Relief and Brownfields Revitalization Act ("Brownfields Law") PL 107-118

But of course, in this same feeble mind, (beck) invading Iraq stopped another 9-11 and "made us safer" (all you need to know about becks analytical skill)!

Redneckville, which one piece of legislation you site prevented global cooling? Was there a global cooling protocol or something?

"Unlike Y2K, there is no preparation that can be done to avoid it."

I dunno. I'll wait 'till the movie comes out.

www.whowillsurvive2012.com

Re # 8:

Air... Water... Land... Endangered species... Hazardous Waste...

****KABLAM!****

When your powers combine... I am Al Gore.

#10 | Posted by LetUsPrey

That is wild!

"Redneckville, which one piece of legislation you site prevented global cooling?"

I don't know maybe all of them!
But one thing is for sure ---- without these piece(s) of Legislation, the jersey shore, Virginia beach and most rivers on the eastern seaboard would be unusable and a danger to peoples health. Perhaps even entire swaths of the nation would be a contaminated, uninhabitable wasteland if we had not acted.
www.ohiohistorycentral.org

Redneckville, which one piece of legislation you site prevented global cooling?

The one that forced soccer moms to buy SUVs.

I don't know maybe all of them!

maybe. good enough for me. If it makes you feel better.

I don't mind a little legislation for cleaning and keeping water and air better for all of us.

Although some of these laws might be seen as a power grab by the gov't on individuals' property rights.

Global cooling was a farce--same as global warming--same as climate change.

Are there changes as a natural function of the Earth--sure.

But all the hype now is another power grab by the gov't over the lives of individuals.

Isn't interesting that the eeeeevil Nixon, who Liberals hated worse than W back in the 70s, was the one who put the EPA into existence? Darn Republicans want to poison the air, dirty the water, starve teh childre, and throw grandma in the street!

"Isn't interesting that the eeeeevil Nixon, who Liberals hated worse than W back in the 70s, was the one who put the EPA into existence? Darn Republicans want to poison the air, dirty the water, starve teh childre, and throw grandma in the street!"
#17 | Posted by member2586 at 2009-04-24 02:56 PM

Nixon was a crook, no doubt about it, but The first director of the EPA he appointed was a devout republican with strong Republican Credentials! He (William Doyle Ruckelshaus) immediately went after Big Business Polluters, banned DDT and prosecuted those who were destroying ecosystems and communities (much to Nixons consternation). Nixon would later attempt to Veto some of this legislation but was overridden by congress!

epa.gov

Just Another Example that Shows Just How Far the Republicans have Fallen!

I wonder, do you ever bother to research anything mem, or are you just like your BFF glen beck?

"The one that forced soccer moms to buy SUVs."
#14 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-24 02:38 PM
YEAH!

Forced, no. Manipulated, yes.

A funny thing happens when Industry insiders get to write the Legislation.

A federal tax law, originally intended to assist farmers and business owners requiring light trucks or vans in their workplaces (see Section 280F(d)(5) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986), can be exploited by any business that purchases one of 38 SUVs that are 6000 pounds or heavier (as SUVs grew in size, they eventually met the weight minimum needed to meet the requirements for the tax break).
Since most states follow federal tax code, businesses can also receive state tax breaks. The 1986 federal bill language allowed for a business to deduct up to $25,000 from their taxable income. President Bush's 2002 economic stimulus package added a bonus deduction allowing business owners to also expense 30 percent of the difference between the purchase price and the $25,000 cap. Last May, the passage of the Jobs and Growth Act increased the cap to $100,000 and the bonus deduction to 50 percent.
A qualifying buyer can now deduct $106,000 of the suggested $110,000 price of a Hummer H1 SUV ($100,000 direct deduction plus $5,000, or 50 percent of the $10,000 balance, and $1,000, which is the first year of depreciation for the $5,000 balance). That would translate into a $37,100 savings on the purchase price if the taxpayer were in the 35 percent income-tax bracket.

Now im sure that you and your gang would support similar legislation for economical vehicles ---- not!

#8 | Posted by Redneckville

As much as this pains me, I have to agree somewhat with redneck.

OUCH, that hurt.

Forced, no. Manipulated, yes.

#19 | Posted by Redneckville at 2009-04-24 03:44 PM | Reply

Much as I hate to reply to Red, he's wrong as usual.

Your Holy Grail of legislation essentially outlawed station wagons. These family cars virtually disappeared in the late 70s.

However, people continued to have children -- children who play sports, are in marching bands, and eat groceries. So families still needed vehicles with enough space to carry stuff.

Without station wagons, they bought vans and SUVs.

Well done!

Now that I've addressed you, I need to wash my hands.

"Your Holy Grail of legislation essentially outlawed station wagons. These family cars virtually disappeared in the late 70s.

#21 | Posted by vernon at 2009-04-24 08:01 PM"

What a crock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great post Member......

The earth is over 4 billion years old, to think that some fat schlump like Gorehog (who got a d in his one class on the environment) can divine 'global warming' is laughable beyond belief.

Imagine if you are in a temperature controlled room for one hour.

At the 22 minute mark the temperature increases from 65 to 67.4 degrees, you estimate it took 34 seconds to jump 2.4 degrees.

You can tell by that one measurement, that you will be burned to death in minutes and obviously you caused it by moving around.

Stupid fricking global warming morons.

I wish I had a bridge to sell you humps.

#23 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-04-25 01:30 AM | Reply | Flag: failed elementary climatology

Actually, douche rat, I got an A+.

over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Great post Member......
The earth is over 4 billion years old, to think that some fat schlump like Gorehog (who got a d in his one class on the environment) can divine 'global warming' is laughable beyond belief.
Imagine if you are in a temperature controlled room for one hour.
At the 22 minute mark the temperature increases from 65 to 67.4 degrees, you estimate it took 34 seconds to jump 2.4 degrees.
You can tell by that one measurement, that you will be burned to death in minutes and obviously you caused it by moving around.
Stupid fricking global warming morons.
I wish I had a bridge to sell you humps.
#23 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-04-25 01:30 AM

How do you equate the suns activities? Is the cooling trend something that effects Earth? How long might this solar trend last? Long enough to effectively freeze the Earth?

Isn't "global climate change" a more accurate name, some places heat, others freeze?

At least people are finally crawling out from under "the Earth is 6 thousand years old" rock.

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