They absolutely do not want to air this case out for several reasons;

1) the spies have already said the US regularly used AIPAC to send back channel messages to Israel,

2) they want to subpeona bush officials

3) they already paid off the congresswoman to intercede on thier behalf.

Can you see the corruption now? Not Jewish corruption, but rather Israeli corruption.

And Bush/Cheney corruption

They absolutely do not want to air this case out...

Yep.

Can you see the corruption now?

Shadiness in US-Israeli relations? Inconceivable!

An anonymous tipster declares that there is a transcript of a recorded conversation between Jane Harmon and these two alleged AIPAC spies? One in which she agrees to help make the charges go away in return for their assistance in getting the Chair of the House Intelligence Commitee?

Damn.

Spud don't know wot to be more offended by here.

The fact that these AIPAC biatches by releasing this anonymous account are obviously playing hardball in their attempts to overly-influence the US government and its policies and get away with espionage.

The fact that it appears to be working and thus this case will quietly drop off the radar again and nobody will ever really know wot transpired here.

The fact that they were charged with seeking classified documents but only disclosing unclassified information being complicated legally by the fact that the clasified documents they sought and possibly obtained cannot be introduced in a court of law without going through major hoops.

The fact that a US official seeking the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee thinks AIPAC has the juice to get her in there.

Man, this shit just stinks to high heaven.

Yeesh.

Suffice it to say that Spud wants to hear that tape.

Be Well.

Sighhhhhhhh At least Russ Fiengold is STILL Pure that I know of. Of course the ones who remain silent in Washington Usually are.

Larry

Whew!
Obama had me worried there for a second, but it appears that his Administration will join those going back at least as far as LBJ in being Israel's bitch.

"going back at least as far as LBJ in being Israel's bitch"

At that time, of course, Syria and Egypt were solidly in the orbit of the Soviet Union. However, that excuse rings a bit hollow.

I'm not sure exactly how to characterize what I am thinking here, because it is both convuluted and anal at the same time.

Israel. I care about the people of Israel. Most people there are just like everyone else, they work, they eat, they fuck and they do it all over again the next day. They don't see the big picture either.

there is one thing that bothers me about the israelis. they expect their gov't to be corrupt. they understand it. it almost seems like they are very adult about this whole corruption issue. By comparison, we are idealistic teenagers with yearning glands, out spinning our tires and driving our political car very recklessly.

But I also know that Israelis lack enlightenment. Even among individuals that I know and their gov't. Their gov. is not based on the elightened principles like ours is (was?).

We are gonna be forced to look, like a man not like a reckless teenager, at ourselves and decide what do we think is important. Do we REALLY believe in the American state documents or not?

If we don't, then carry on as you were.

But, if we do, we really really do, then we have got some soul-searching and some sacrifice to do. We have connected ourselves with philosophical undesirables and have let them seduce us. And the way they captured us was by using our flaws against us; arrogance, racism, party politics, agression, greed, religion, ignorance and innocent naivete.

My whole bitch is this. Israel has a very strong need to retain whatever control they have in the world. They fight tooth and nail for it. One almost has to admire their creativity and determination. That desire has caused retribution against them throughout history.

But that history is the history of religion. Religion is now dying. Mass communication has raised the whole level of discourse worldwide, and it's killing religion. In the world of religions, there is no distinction between religion and culture and gov't. That real distinction only came about when America came into existence. Even ancient Rome or Greece wasn't as enlightened as the american idea. But we have let that philosophy wither on the vine due of neglect.

We are sorta free, and most men, well some men are created equal, some more than others. we believe in justice, well, ya know, if you don't have money and power. we believe in peace, well, that is, if you don't have oil concerns.

This Aipac spy thing is just another example of politics and religion and bribery overiding the american idea of blind justice. The american guy involved in this is already in prison.

Damn, I'm starting to sound like Johnson.

Realizing you have a problem is the first step towards the cure.

oh you two guys....

as the guy who lost to ann richards said about rape

its inevitable..just lay back and enjoy it

LOL

Realizing you have a problem is the first step towards the cure.

#10 | Posted by Big_League_Chew

there was alot of good info in that posting but it is so verbose that no one will read it.

It just drives me crazy how blase everybody is about major breeches in laws, if broken by certain folks, and a total lack of compassion if those same rules are run afowl by other folks.

Verbose, that is putting it mildly.

I understand what you are trying to say but I am afraid that the country is already checking out as far as that damn piece of paper.

that damn piece of paper is taking all sorts of hits.
start with the tenth amendment.

it was fasincating to read about the fight that adams had with paine and others about whether to have one or two houses of congress and how the same argument was going on then as it is now about common people versus people of wealth or business owners.

need to devote resources to prosecuting former admin officials and attorneys for waterboarding. That's more important to the agenda, apparently.

AIPAC has waaay too much influence over U.S. politicians and U.S. foreign policy.

Also, no U.S. politician from either political party should ever be allowed to hold dual-citizenship with any other country. And that includes Rahm Emanuel (Obama's Chief of Staff) who not only holds dual-citizenship with Israel but has fought with the Israeli Army.

If you want to divide your loyalty between the U.S. and some other country then you don't belong in office.

#16 | Posted by CalifChris

We have a winner!!!!!!

this is as bipartisan as it gets

it was fasincating to read about the fight that adams had with paine and others about whether to have one or two houses of congress and how the same argument was going on then as it is now about common people versus people of wealth or business owners.

#14 | Posted by afkabl2

For revolutionaries, the Founding Fathers were pretty conservative-they basically mirrored the hated british parliamentary system-two houses, one "common" (thought hardly joe tradesman or farmer running Congress)and one totally undemocratic "Lords" as the Senate was appointed by the states to be a brake on any crazy democratic ideas. Add in the Electoral college being able to prevent democracy getting carried away (if needed)and you've got a neutered monarchy. Until 2001, anyways.

Why do we continue to suck the Israeli c**k, and why aren't more people pissed off about it?

Offened by my last comment?

Don't care.

its inevitable..just lay back and enjoy it

LOL

#11 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-04-23 07:34 PM | R

BLT'S band teacher in his freshman year of high school.

LOL.

Why do we continue to suck the Israeli c**k, and why aren't more people pissed off about it?

Posted by jerrytarkanian

Afraid to be automatically labelled as an anti-Semite prolly.

Just a guess.

as the guy who lost to ann richards said about rape

its inevitable..just lay back and enjoy it.

~BabbleOn

So glad you feel that way.

Spud just sent yer address to a 400 pound gym monkey white supremecist who just got out of jail.

Spud told him you had a "pretty mouth".

So later on tonight when yer getting pounded up the pooper without lube fer the umpteenth time let the above words of wisdom be yer mantra.

Be Well.

what else is new?

AIPAC has more say in Washington than GM, Microsoft, or Intel....

The bizzaro part of Israeli bribery, is that it comes out of our Foriegn Aid, full circle.

There is no chance in Politics without paying the TV and Radio men. You know, the public airways that were completely privatized only in the USA.

I believe why we are Israel's bitch comes from the agreement that we signed with the Nation of Israel back in the early part of the 20th century. Tis is why they get preferential treatment even today.

Larry

PS Notice I stated Nation of Israel. Do not confuse that with the Nation State of Israel that was founded in 1948.

Israel is the single greatest threat to the peace and safety of the United States - hands down. Anyone that tolerates their spying on us (which allowed them to develop nuclear weapons, etc) and then the criminal stealing of our tax dollars simply does not care about America. The 'official' US Aid figures for Israel are utter bullshit as they do not count the 'surplus' equipment sales that we routinely give this rogue state - our true aid to Israel is in the $10B+ range annually. That is roughly $2K/year for every man, woman, and jewish child in Israel.

Israel will continue to be a threat to the world as long as the US tolerates - and the traitors in our country - promote them by giving the money and diplomatic aircover. Given Israel has launched more offensive (pre-emptive) wars in the last 50 years than any other country, I would think the US would want the IAEA to fully examine Israel and bring them into compliance on nuclear non-proliferation. Iran has not launched an offensive war in like 600 years and does not have nuclear weapons - yet they are seen as a threat to the region - absolutely assinine.

The american guy involved in this is already in prison.

#8 | POSTED BY LIPZOIDIAL

The Dees pic on Rense has been changed.

Let's all hope they get to the bottom of this spy trial and prosecute those who have spied on the US.

Interesting article, and a phone number in the last few paragraphs:

This is only the tip of the iceberg. The US should break all of its ties with Israel. Israel relentlessly targets the US stealing intelligence, proprietary information and technology. Let alone Israel's zionist policy of genocide and ethnic cleansing, arms dealing with US enemies, white slavery and numerous other crimes against humanity. Zionists have fully infiltrated the US Congress, let alone the various administrations. Israel is not a friend of the US and never will be. To support Israel today is to be anti-American.