Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Carrie Prejean, who as Miss California was runner-up at the Miss USA beauty pagaent, said that she "dreaded" the prospect of being asked about gay marriage -- which happened when she randomly picked judge Perez Hilton's question. "I had a gut feeling. I knew he was controversial, and so was the question. Out of all the topics I studied up on, I dreaded that one, I prayed I would not be asked about gay marriage. If I had any other question, I know I would have won."

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Okay, we all know God moves in mysterious ways and all but honestly, ...using Perez Hilton as an instrument of His Divine Will?

Wotta joker!

Be Well.

You have to give this girl her due. Coming from California & knowing how liberal the advertisers & the media & the fashion industry & pretty much everything to do with Miss USA is these days, she answered according to her principles.

Good for her. It's refreshing to see someone in the public eye not bowing at the atlar of political correctness.

A test of faith, or a test of stupidity?

A test of faith in her stupidity.

She passed.

she answered according to her principles

It just happens that her principles are based on prejudice and bigotry. No problem, though.

"Coming from California & knowing how liberal the advertisers & the media & the fashion industry & pretty much everything to do with Miss USA is these days, she answered according to her principles."

I don't really have a problem with her expressing her personal opinion, and I think Hilton is being an ass.

I do have a problem that she is so dumb that she said how great it is that in America we "have the choice of who we marry - same sex or opposite".

What?

The other one who completely DIDN'T answer the question on universal health care was just as bad.

Just a little detail for the ranters:
North Carolina scored higher than California in both swimsuit and evening gown before the question was ever asked. So I'm thinking nasty Mr. Perez Hilton, 1/11th of the judging panel, probably didn't have that much impact on who won.

"Good for her. It's refreshing to see someone in the public eye not bowing at the atlar of political correctness."

I think the more appropriate answer would have been the whole state's have the right to decide for themselves how to define marriage. That answer isn't PC, it is constituionally correct.

Instead she insinuated that her personal ideology had a bearing on public law.

I think she didn't really think the answer through. But afterwards spun it as staying true to her beliefs.

God was testing my faith.

Is she saying that Perez Hilton is God?

WTF is Perez Hilton anyway?

WTF is Perez Hilton anyway?

I think it's just a cutesy way to spell 'Paris' -- putting a chicana slant on it, I guess.

Goat,
If only. Perez Hilton is a celebrity blogger who somehow, someway became a celebrity on his own.

Perez Hilton is the pseudonym of Mario Armando Lavandeira, Jr.

Fat Nasty Bitch was already taken.

And he's a guy. 'mmmkay?

Well.........DNA tests being what they are these days, I retract my earlier assertion.

Perez then called her a "dumb bitch" later in a video blog. Way to show her the correct way to act, Perez.

It was a purposely loaded question from Perez.

WTF is Perez Hilton anyway?

Nobody is entirely sure. Modern science refuses to even guess.

On Topic?

Carrie Prejean

Her beauty is only skin deep but her ugly goes right to the bone.

See also: Her stupid.

Be Well.

Remember folks, we have freedom of speech. Not freedom from consequence.

Who the fuck let Perez judge this thing ?!?!

A gay man judging a beauty pagent? Is this like a vegan judging a chili cook off?

If only. Perez Hilton is a celebrity blogger who somehow, someway became a celebrity on his own.

!!!

I never knew that. I thought you were fucking with me, but a google showed you to be correct. I've seen that name for a year or two and I always assumed it was a play on Paris Hilton's name (of herself, not another person).

Paris is on the long list of key words in the processing portion of my brain that makes my eyes move to the next topic, so Perez entered that list by proxy and I never bothered to look any further.

Thanks (I guess *grin*) for the info, kanrei!

PS -- Is that really a picture of him in spud's #16 or is that a spoof?

That's him.

A gay man judging a beauty pagent? Is this like a vegan judging a chili cook off?

#18 | Posted by kanrei

PeeWee Herman was busy.

PeeWee Herman was busy.

#22 | Posted by truthhurts

The movie ran late?

He [Perez] also said what he would have done if Miss California had been crowned the winner.

"I would have gone up on stage -- I s--- you not and snatched that tiara off her head and run out the door," he said in his video blog. "I would probably have been arrested. But so be it. I need a cocktail now."

www.abcnews.go.com

----

And this guy has credibility as a judge?

And this guy has credibility as a judge?

#24 | Posted by Pirate

Well no, because its likely any one of the women on stage could kick his fat fanny.

"I would have gone up on stage -- I s--- you not and snatched that tiara off her head and run out the door," he said in his video blog. "I would probably have been arrested. But so be it. I need a cocktail now."

Correction

"I need a cock IN MY tail now"

And this guy has credibility as a judge?

#24 | Posted by Pirate

dude, IT WAS THE FUCKING MISS USA PAGEANT

And this guy has credibility as a judge?

Meh, a beauty contest in this day and age has about as much credibility as Perez Hilton so in that sense it's a match made in heaven.

That sed, there is a significantly higher fap factor in these Bauty Pageants.

* fappity fappity fappity fap fap fap *

Giggetty!

Be Well.

dude, IT WAS THE FUCKING MISS USA PAGEANT

----

No..really?

But in more important developments - Julie Chen and Les Moonves are expecting!

In "Much more important News of the day"-I successfully picked lint out of my bellybutton this morning......

"I need a cock IN MY tail now"

Sincerely,

Pereth...oops.

Perez Hilton.

Who the fuck let Perez judge this thing ?!?!

#17 | Posted by KnightHawk at 2009-04-21 03:57 PM

That would be Trump, Donald Trump.

Perez then called her a "dumb bitch" later in a video blog. Way to show her the correct way to act, Perez.

Beauty pagaents were enough of a freak show already without tossing Perez Hilton into the mix. That guy's a John Waters character come to life.

Hey , the question was an opinion based question.

She - Miss Cali. - gave her opinion. There was no right or wrong answer.


Hey , the question was an opinion based question.

She - Miss Cali. - gave her opinion. There was no right or wrong answer.

#35 | Posted by jerrytarkanian

Tell that to the gay judges.

And she probably did lose the crown over this question.

She was in a slight lead over NC up to the question.

And we know how Perez Hilton voted.

And his usual immature comments afterwards will not get him any invitations to come back.

Amazing that your opinion will cost you a crown over a gay marriage question.

But of course gays won't do that to anyone else--not the churches, not the preachers, not the kids in school.

Everyone has an opinion only if it matches theirs.

If not, you will be called the b-word and the c-word.

Miss California, this piece of work is going to milk this cows come home. The moment that Perez Hilton, said that he voted against her because of the Gay Marriage question, I knew that the crazies on the right was going to Love her to death. She will be on every Fox News show for as long as they can get some mileage out of her. I came to this conclusion on Saturday, Fox is so transparent is laughable.....

A gay man judging a beauty pagent? Is this like a vegan judging a chili cook off?

#18 | Posted by kanrei

FF

If not, you will be called the b-word and the c-word.

#37 | Posted by MURPHY

Just because that's the way your hubby talks doesn't mean everyone else does, Goofy.

Actually Celisary--the next morning Miss CA was on every morning show for all the networks--ABC NBC and CBS.

This morning she was on MSLSD and I guess she was on Fox--since you say so.

"In an exclusive interview with FOXNews.com's ..."

What a surprise!

Null you are the class idiot.

Those words were used by Hilton and he used them toward Miss CA.

But you approve of course.

I never heard of this Perez fellow before yesterday. Then I watched him on Larry King. If he's the future, then it's populated by smug assholes.

and I guess she was on Fox--since you say so.

#41 | Posted by MURPHY

Classic Murphy post. On a thread regarding an article from Foxnews on an exclusive interview by FoxNews.

Just classic!

(yes, I am pointing......)

Why are we putting political questions to these women?

It's usually a recipe for disaster. Just stick to the old favorites, such as 'favorite position' and 'do you like women'. That's all I need to know from these Rocket Scientists.

wOOt!

Spud's thread makes it to the BigTime.

Greenlit to the Front Page replete with shiny new headline courtesy of the blog-god!

Ha! Spud knew slipping the Maitre 'd an Andrew Jackson was gonna werk!

That guy's a John Waters character come to life.

Ouch!

Be Well.

/Linked hawter than a jello-wrasslin' match between Miss cAlifornia and Alison Stokke in Hell!

#46 | Posted by Manypaths

Many--I didn't check the thread story--heard all the ranting and raving on various stations--local news too.

She was on MSLSD this morning and said the basic same thing as the intro to the thread.

I was making the comment to Celery since he has a thing for Fox.

;o)

Her views might be considered stupid, but they are her views. I don't agree with them, but at least she didn't lie. You could tell Perez Hilton would have preferred a lie over the truth.

Ms Prejean, if Perez Hilton was outside your house beating down your door one night demanding, "Bring out your men, that we might know them!" what would you do?

Wait a minute, that's exactly what the strong armed fairy man did!

Good answer Ms Prejean! Good answer! Don't let the Sodomites drag you down!

Well TheOneBS, your opinions rival those of a pillar of salt.

She was in a slight lead over NC up to the question.

#37 | Posted by MURPHY

No she wasn't - she was behind.

Swimsuit:
North Carolina 9.198 (1)
California 9.033 (3)

Evening gown:
North Caroling 9.470 (1)
California 9.275 (2)

I thought the answer was World Peace!

How could she blow this. Maybe if she would have planted a big Kiss on Miss NC and then said that she is willing to do beastality with Pereze dog she could have passified the left.

Many--I didn't check the thread story--heard all the ranting and raving on various stations--local news too. - Posted by MURPHY

Well that is pretty obvious considering I am not the only one pointing out that you are lying and have no idea what you are talking about.

You should really stick with seperating the colors from the whites.

Funny, she expressed the opinion of a majority of Californias, a majority of the House and Senate representatives, and the expressed opinion of our President, who doesn't believe in gay marriage, but supports civil unions.

She's taking the crap because she gave an honest answer, which is still the majority opinion (whether you happen think it's right or wrong)? She should be more enlightened than the President or be pilloried?

What a big heaping pile of steamy shit this is.

"murphy"......I never said that she only appeared on Fox, but that what you clown do take things out of context to make your meager points, get real it just doesn't work....She has been on at least four Fox Shows today alone, that was my point.....None of the other networks will do that......As to my thing for Fox, YOU LEARN MORE ABOUT EVERYTHING IF YOU LISTEN TO YOUR ENEMIES, not to everyone that agrees with you. Something you fucks will never learn.....

I'm sorry Celisary, did you say something?

Alternative Questions to ask these girls: (Sure, jump on in with your own.)

Do you spit or swallow?

Does size matter to you?

If man (A) is fucking you from behind at the rate of 85 strokes per minute and man (B) is face fucking you at a rate of 45 strokes per minute, which one will shoot his hot ropes of farthest across your back?

While taking a break from cooking your man dinner, list the following in order of importance:

- Go to the bathroom
- Give your man head on the couch while he watches Basketball
- Fold clothes
- Iron
- Finish dishes from lunch

She's taking the crap because she gave an honest answer

No, she is putting herself on TV. She is milking this for all it is worth.

She is trying to justify getting beat fair and square.

She was in a slight lead over NC up to the question.

#37 | Posted by MURPHY

Disclaimer: This post is fiction. Any resemblance to reality is purely coincidental.

First it was women, because they're so many of them and besides they are generally smaller than men.

Now the gays, and atheists, and socialists and finally the Democrats. Get 'em, cause they don't deserve to live, much less enjoy equal rights.

Good for her. It's refreshing to see someone in the public eye not bowing at the atlar of political correctness.

#2 | Posted by HATEBIGGOV

Indeed.

Now the gays, and atheists, and socialists and finally the Democrats. Get 'em, cause they don't deserve to live, much less enjoy equal rights.
#63 | POSTED BY NUTCASE AT 2009-04-21 06:08 PM | REPLY | FLAG: Victim's Complex

Perez Hilton made me so mad I wanted to just slap him in the teeth.

HATEBIGGOV

As to my thing for Fox, YOU LEARN MORE ABOUT EVERYTHING IF YOU LISTEN TO YOUR ENEMIES...

LOL. This isn't the battle of Britian, celery. They way you make a media outlet you dislike (Fox, Rush e.g.) is to stop listening and quoting them. You, by watching, are one more of the millions counted. That raises the advertising revenues. That brings them more attention and even more listeners.

So as usual, you have it wrong. "Knowing your enemy" when you enemy is a TV channel, will not make them go away.

But I'm sure that Fox and Rush won't argue with your getting to know them better. LOL

Wow!!!

It seems that the Left on this thread would sell out their beliefs to get somewhere. What morals you have!

Shame on the Libs! AGAIN!!!

#1 | Posted by dethspud
www.drudge.com

#3 | Posted by ZombieHunter
www.drudge.com

#4 | Posted by kanrei
www.drudge.com

Should I continue?

Don't ask the question if you don't want to hear the answer. It was a stupid question to ask in the first place, and there is no right or wrong answer.

Wonder what Miss South Carolina 2007 is up to...


she answered according to her principles

It just happens that her principles are based on prejudice and bigotry. No problem, though.

#6 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Wow!!!!

Did you even hear the response?

This Perez guy has set back the Gay Marriage movement way back.

"You, by watching, are one more of the millions counted.

Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:13 PM"

Tell us, Mr. Goat - how do they know that my radio is tuned to a particular radio station?

As usual, you have it wrong.

Tell us, Mr. Goat - how do they know that my radio is tuned to a particular radio station?

???

I don't

As usual, you have it wrong.

About what? Are you drinking while blogging again?

"You, by watching, are one more of the millions counted.

Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:13 PM"

You admit that they have no idea whether I'm tuned in or not, right? So, explain the above.

It just happens that her principles are based on prejudice and bigotry. No problem, though.

#6 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Well, that's a load of shit. Just because you don't think gays should marry does not mean that you are bigoted towards them. Whether you like the truth or not, and in this case I'm sure you don't, homosexual behavior is deviant and abnormal. Those are facts. You libs just can't wrap your heads around those facts though. Anyone who actually speaks their mind, and isn't politically correct enough for you libs, is automatically labeled a racist or a bigot by you bastards.

Even though I know that homosexuality is not normal and is deviant behavior, I have no problem with what two consenting people do. Live and let live. But you libs need to quit pretending that homosexuality is just a normal cycle of life. It takes heterosexuals to keep society alive and growing. Even Darwin said "that successful species produce more offspring in each generation than are needed to replace the adults who die . . . The species would thus have changed or evolved to favor traits that favor survival and reproduction." This leaves no room for homosexuals and they are considered with the weak who should die out, in his theory.

It seems that the Left on this thread would sell out their beliefs to get somewhere. What morals you have!

Since you mention me, I'm interested to know how I've "sold out my beliefs". I think I've been quite consistent in my opposition to discrimination and bigotry against gays.

The only people whose lives will change as a result of allowing gay marriage are... you guessed it... gay people! Why not admit that it's okay to let them have what they want? They will be happy, and you won't be a jackass for wanting to deny someone the opportunity to be happy because you have a dusty old book that says a pompous genocidal (and quite invisible) tyrant thinks that shellfish and buttfucking are abominations.

I say "buttfucking" and not "scissoring" or "cunnilingus" because 99% of the anti-gay sentiment in the US is anti-gay male sentiment. Insecurity about one's own virility hiding in the guise of religion. I've yet to see a man get really put off about lesbians.

Are you drinking while blogging again?

#73 | Posted by goatman

Monte, put down that bong!

Sincerely,
Goattroll

"This leaves no room for homosexuals and they are considered with the weak who should die out, in his theory.

#75 | Posted by everlong at 2009-04-21 06:23 PM"

No, fuckface, it doesn't. Unless you are stupid enough to think that couples can only have two kids. Jesus Christ some of you people are dim.

You might be right except that Hetros fuck for fun most of the time too Ever.

You admit that they have no idea whether I'm tuned in or not, right? So, explain the above

I've really no inclination to go into the science of statistical sampling and polling. I've got a lot of eating to do, you know. LOL

About what? Are you drinking while blogging again?

#73 | Posted by goatman

That seems to happen quite a lot amoung the left on this blog

She's taking the crap because she gave an honest answer ...

True. But would anybody be racing to her defense if she was opposed to interracial marriage? That's an opinion too, and it wasn't that long ago the majority was against "race mixing."

I say "buttfucking" and not "scissoring" or "cunnilingus" because 99% of the anti-gay sentiment in the US is anti-gay male sentiment. Insecurity about one's own virility hiding in the guise of religion. I've yet to see a man get really put off about lesbians.

#76 | POSTED BY ZOMBIEHUNTER AT 2009-04-21 06:25 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

BS. Real hardcore lesbians are hard to take. Two chicks going at it for the entertainment of men - who will ultimately get a piece of the action - now that's ok.

Still don't know why she's getting kicked in the teeth when our savior, Obama, doesn't believe in same-sex marriage either - go figure.

Let's discuss Gays' Gun Rights!

Do Gun Rights apply to Gays?

Does the second amendment apply to Homos?

Did you even hear the response?

This Perez guy has set back the Gay Marriage movement way back.

#71 | Posted by Eddie

I heard the response and previously commented that Hilton is an ass, and she is entitled to her opinion on the subject.

My issue is with the other part of her answer when she claimed that it was great that Americans "have the choice of who to marry - same sex or opposite."

What?

Dumb.

True. But would anybody be racing to her defense if she was opposed to interracial marriage? That's an opinion too, and it wasn't that long ago the majority was against "race mixing."

#82 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2009-04-21 06:28 PM | REPLY | FLAG

You have to first accept homosexuality on the same terms as race. We are not there at this point in time.

No, she is putting herself on TV. She is milking this for all it is worth.

She is trying to justify getting beat fair and square.

#61 | Posted by Manypaths

Just how is she "putting herself on TV"? The networks are the ones who are calling and asking her to come on. She should have the opportunity to defend herself against all the left wing loons who are screaming about her answer on all the stations as well. I guess you think only the left should be heard.

My issue is with the other part of her answer when she claimed that it was great that Americans "have the choice of who to marry - same sex or opposite."
What?
Dumb.

#85 | POSTED BY SANANTONIOROGUE AT 2009-04-21 06:28 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Second part of her answer was personal opinion dork. It was consistent.

Who is screaming about her answer?

Who is attacking her besides the idiot that asked the question?

She is on TV because she wants to be on TV. NOTHING MORE.

Until a few hours ago I never had heard of this perez hilton guy. Now this pink haired freak of nature seems to be in he forefront of the gay marriage thing.

Americans can be really weird at times

"I've really no inclination to go into the science of statistical sampling and polling. I've got a lot of eating to do, you know. LOL

#80 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:27 PM"

Oh fuck. Unless the guy had been polled or otherwise asked, he is not among "the counted," no matter what your statistics teacher taught you.

Second part of her answer was personal opinion dork. It was consistent.

#88 | Posted by somoco

Her "opinion" is that Americans have the right to choose who they marry, regardless of gender?

Uhm, who's the dork?

"Until a few hours ago I never had heard of this perez hilton guy. Now I realize I actually hired him to let me eat chorizo out of his asscrack in Tijuana about ten years ago.

#90 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:32 PM"

Are you telling me that there has been no liberal host on radio or TV who hasn't discussed this issue and branded her a bigot in doing so? You really expect me to believe that she was only a subject on the shows she showed up on? And it isn't nothing more. She's there to defend herself and her answer and she has every damn right to. Why are you so against her being asked to come on to shows?

Are you telling me that there has been no liberal host on radio or TV who hasn't discussed this issue and branded her a bigot in doing so?

I haven't heard one, but you obviously have, so who was it?

You're just speaking out of your ass and you know it.

So, exaclty which host has branded her as a "BIGOT" as you are trying to suggest?

Wait for Maddow and Olbermann tonight.

Unless the guy had been polled or otherwise asked, he is not among "the counted,"

duh

Well, m'core, if you go back to the start of this sub-thread, you'll see I was talking about celery watching Fox. How did I know he was? He told me.

But you chose to steer it into an "it's all about montecore" thing. So yes, to answer your question (as I already did in #73, BTW, but I'll do it again) I have no idea what you are watching unless you tell me as celery did. I mean, isn't that obvious?

You have more issues in your life than the infatuation thing. LOL


Wait for Maddow and Olbermann tonight.

#96 | Posted by somoco

Why do I have to wait? You didn't.

Now I realize I actually hired him to let me eat chorizo out of his asscrack in Tijuana about ten years ago.

#93 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-04-21 06:34 PM

M'core's frustration and desperation is deepening. He has gone from the name calling phase to the making up retorts phase.

Sorry I got under your skin so badly, m'core. LOL BUt I have to admit, it's fun watching your posts devolve.

I'll leave you to your childish name calling and bizarre chorizo fantasies with fat pink haired guys. You have officially gotten out of my league.

Later, m'core

Well, m'core, if you go back to the start of this sub-thread, you'll see I was talking about celery watching Fox. How did I know he was? He told me.


You need to be told if someone watches Fox GM?

Not very observant I guess.

I can spot a FoxNews viewer in 3 sentences. Every fucking time. They expose themselves as soon as we start arguing facts.

"And you know what, in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman."

All she said was that she believes it should be between man and woman, even if Americans have the right to choose same sex marriage.

Can you make that distinction in your head, or does it make it hurt too badly Sanantonio?

No shit, Goat. And you told Celary that somehow the folks at Fox or their advertisers know he is watching, therefore defeating his purpose of weakening his enemies. Of course you said this without knowing whether he was a Nielsen home or had been polled, neither of which is at all statistically likely. As usual, there is a high statistical probability that you are wrong.

Just because he told you he watches Fox doesn't mean that Fox or advertisers have any idea that he does. Fuck, Goat, for a 6'4" guy, you have a small intellect.

Can you make that distinction in your head, or does it make it hurt too badly Sanantonio?

#101 | Posted by somoco

Yeah, but unfortunately, that ISN'T what she said, now is it?

Seems like you're putting your own interpretation on what she MEANT, rather than going by what she SAID.

Faking posts is a dumpable offense--just ask that retard Soheifox--but I'm sure Monte doesn't mind.

It is dumpable. Flags, please.

Faking posts is a dumpable offense

Being a pussy about it is too.

Faking posts is a dumpable offense--just ask that retard Soheifox--but I'm sure Monte doesn't mind.

The childishness of resorting to such a thing is more humiliating than getting dumped, IMO.

"Until a few weeks ago ago, I had never experienced the touch of a woman. Thanks, CalifChris.

#69 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:32 PM"

"Until a few days ago, I had eaten anything European. Thanks, Jeffn!

#169 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:33 PM"

"Being a pussy about it is too."

Did Goatman flag it? People can call me anything they want, I won't flag it. But alter my posts? Definitely.

Fuck, I'm messing these up.

"Until a few hours ago, I had never met anyone I had anything in common with. Thanks, Eddie.

#169 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:33 PM"

"Until a few minutes ago, I had never met anyone as angry as me. Thanks, Joe and Vernon.

#069 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:35 PM"

"Just because you don't think gays should marry does not mean that you are bigoted..."

And just because you like little boys doesn't make you a pedophile, nor if you bugger dogs do you favor bestiality. No one speaking up? herm.

I can spot a FoxNews viewer in 3 sentences. Every fucking time

I would have never guessed celery to be one, if not for being told, of course. Would you have?

BTW, manypaths, did you look at those pictures? Wasn't that a bizarre looking vehicle?

"But atler my posts? Definitely.

#111 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-04-21 06:57 PM"

But change my posts? Definitely.

#111 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-04-21 06:57 PM

But edit my posts? Definitely.

#111 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-04-21 06:57 PM

Faking posts is the next best thing we have to those old classic spoofs.

Anybody who flags a faked post is clearly a thin-skinned pussy.

What's next? Dumping a "sincerely" post?

Come on, Nulli. Help a brutha out!

Yeah, you're right, Manypaths, not a single liberal host has discussed this issue on their program or will later tonight. I don't have to hear them because I know it is being said and will be said. You just don't have much common sense if you think otherwise. Oh, but I know, I have to have a link to prove my point. The biggest load of crap at the DR.

Jesus, Monte.

You are the worst ever at creating fake posts.

Stick to crude, abarsive and politically-incorrect humor, son. You are actually funny when you do that.

Here's a plan;

Go to a job interview, to say, oh, maybe an oil company. And during the interview, tell your prospective boss that you believe as evidenced to God talking to you that oil is damaging the environment. They'll give you a corner suite with a view and a big ol' salary.

Who gives a shit what she believes? She was interviewing for a job, a hollywood job at that. You don't get a hollywood job by saying that half of hollywood is wrong and going to hell. And you also don't stand up in front of the largest collection of atheists in the world and expect them to be esctatic about the fact that you believe you have a personal trunk line to God.

BTW, does anyone know (or care), without looking who actually won? no? see, that shows you where the importance is.

Anybody who flags a faked post is clearly a thin-skinned pussy.

If it was flagged it wasn't me. As I said upthread the juvenile nature of actually doing it is more humiliating than the blog equivalent of standind in the corner.

Come on, Nulli. Help a brutha out!

Sorry, Monte. I'm not flagging your posts!

And JeffJ, bite me. It all depends on the context. When some fucker deliberately alters my post, not in a funny way like Monte, but like that moron Shoebox, I'll flag it.

I think the woman did well by speaking the truth as she saw it. The argument seems to be if she should have been punished for it.

A person who loses something for being honest is a lot more sympathetic than the aggressive gay lout trying on his Puritan suit for the first time.

If Goatfart fails to flag my posts it is because he is a chickenshit, and proof that he is my bitch.

I think the more appropriate answer would have been the whole state's have the right to decide for themselves how to define marriage. That answer isn't PC, it is constitutionally correct.

#8 ~Astrobuckeye

Here's the funny thing about that. After he finished with his "Worst. Answer. EVAR!!!1111" hyperbole and his petulant ad hominem attacks on Miss CA on his vblog, Perez Hilton sed that the response he was looking for from her was that it was a states right issue.

Couple more things.

First, as SanAn rightfully points out, she didn't lose this competition due to her response. She was already behind on points to Miss NC. Not that that truth's gonna stop the religulous right from screaming "OPPRESSION" at the top of their lungs here.

Second, Spud takes exception to the notion that she was punished for stating her opinion. Did whoever won Sunday's competition get floated as a possible GOP candidate after the event? Can anyone here actually name the winner? Spud can't. She will, indeed, as has been previously pointed out be "milking this for all its worth" down the road as she is currently the Talibaptists "Burning Martyr of the Week".

Third, the blog-god's observation that if she had come out against mixed race amrriage there would not be nearly the amount slack being cut this girl nor would she be anybody's poster chile except perhaps the KKK's. As far as Spud can tell the analogy is apt. "Born that way racially" or "born that way in terms of gender orientation" are one and the same in terms of deserving full equality under the law.

Finally, Spud aint gonna flag Monte's posts either.

Yer too damn funny, dude, and Spud will not participate in yer being sent on a virtual time-out.

Just won't do it.

Be Well.

Even though I know that homosexuality is not normal and is deviant behavior, I have no problem with what two consenting people do. Live and let live. But you libs need to quit pretending that homosexuality is just a normal cycle of life.

It's a trait that we have no right to discriminate on the basis of. Homosexuals cause no harm to society by participating in relationships, getting married, and starting families. People object to it for cultural, not scientific reasons.

It takes heterosexuals to keep society alive and growing. Even Darwin said "that successful species produce more offspring in each generation than are needed to replace the adults who die . . . The species would thus have changed or evolved to favor traits that favor survival and reproduction." This leaves no room for homosexuals and they are considered with the weak who should die out, in his theory.

It's interesting that you bring this up. Darwin and his successors had a lot to say about these sorts of traits.

Something like kin selection may explain part of the reason that a trait like homosexuality is not purged by natural selection. Homosexuals may not have reproduced in our ancient evolutionary environment, but if the trait is inherited in the right manner and homosexuals increased the likelihood that their relatives would survive and reproduce, then the trait would have been preserved. Also, if the gene(s) that cause homosexuality in one sex increase fertility/fecundity in the opposite sex, the reduction in fitness caused by homosexuality in one sex would be offset by the increase in fitness in the other, so the trait would also be preserved. You can create all sorts of evolutionary scenarios for this. It's just not an especially hot topic in human genetics research right now.

I think the woman did well by speaking the truth as she saw it. The argument seems to be if she should have been punished for it.

I may vehemently disagree with her position, but you're right. Your stance on gay rights doesn't matter when you're deciding the next Miss USA. Somehow, I think my mind would have been on other "topics" if I were judging the competition.

Ms California failed to show she would make a good Miss USA.

Although she is not a political figure, she still should attempt to represent all of the US, and not offend certain groups. She should have given a neutral answer such as, "I believe states have the right to decide for themselves". But...she decided to throw it all away and believe, "God is going to help me win because I'm going to give the polically/religous right answer". Once again "the right" thinks God wants to get involved in politics.

And....to the poster who questioned a gay man judging a beauty contest. Frankly...I think a gay man is a great person to judge women on their merit, and not be influenced by their sex appeal.

Lastly...I am glad to see this thread didn't go off into a "gay rights" rant.

While I am very much in support of gay rights, protection, freedom, etc for gays and their relationships, I just have not come to the conclusion that includes marriage.

Civil Unions, yes....marriage, no.

It is annoying to listen to gay activists equate "gay marriage" and "gay rights".

Interestingly, that doesn't seem to be getting played up in this case from what I've seen and heard so far.

The whole thing is a joke.Why are women different than men.Think about it gays.

She has to be a rightwinger, it really took some brass cajones to put that out there for the girlie-boys to attack. It's better she maintains great, true character, than buy this queer bullshit of bad behavior. It won't be long before the assclowns on the left will want the right of being able to corn hole a tree, or animals. they call themselves progressive, they truly are a joke. That's not freedom, liberty, or "Rights" it's plain immature lunacy.

Second, Spud takes exception to the notion that she was punished for stating her opinion.

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Consider who asked the question. A gay man who is also a hardcore gay supporter with a history of outing closeted gays.

Also, his question asked if other states should follow those that legalized gay marriage. So the whole "I was looking for a state's right" answer is full of crap. His question already implied it was a state's right issue.

States are well within their rights to amend their constitutions to prohibit gay marriage as long as the federal government does not trump them on the issue. As far as prohibiting gay marriage with legislation, I think you're on shaky ground.

And JeffJ, bite me. It all depends on the context. When some fucker deliberately alters my post, not in a funny way like Monte, but like that moron Shoebox, I'll flag it.

Which is certainly your perogative.

As you are well aware, I have never once flagged a post - my perogative.

At least you are honest about this. It's those chicken-shits who follow certain posters around serial-flagging rather inocuous shit with total anonymity who really piss me off.

Here was the question:

"Vermont recently became the fourth state to legalize same sex marriage. Do you think every state should follow suit? Why or why not?"

It's a state's right to determine if they want to legalize same sex marriage.

Yea, that's a great answer, Perez.

Zombie,

I think it's only a matter of time before the issue is forced to the federal level.

As more states pass different laws supporting/blocking gay rights, the day will come when the issue will need to be dealt with once and for all.

And the decision will be....

The Marriage Amendment stating marriage is between one man and one woman with provisions for Civil Unions that provide all rights and responsibilies as "marriage".

"It's those chicken-shits who follow certain posters around serial-flagging rather inocuous shit with total anonymity who really piss me off.

Rcade doesn't usually dump innocuous shit. He might delete it, though. Hardly enough reason to piss anybody off. Except you, apparently.

The Marriage Amendment stating marriage is between one man and one woman with provisions for Civil Unions that provide all rights and responsibilies as "marriage".

That's an evangelical pipe dream. It would never be approved by the legislature, let alone the states.

Most likely, the issue will remain deadlocked at the federal level for quite some time. It's too hot of a potato. Either state supreme courts will act to force the issue (those darn activist judges...) or states will approve legislation allowing gay marriage. The states that do manage to prevent gay marriage will probably stay "anti-gay" for quite awhile before the US supreme court or legislative branch is liberal enough to trump them.

Null,

Some of Rcade's dumps are of pretty tame shit.

Look at the 3 dumps Rex received earning him a vacation.

Look, given that everybody on this site has a different view of what is and isn't 'acceptable', I think Rcade does a tremendous job at trying to find a middle ground and keep his users as happy as possible. He also cuts some slack to his long-timers who like to push the envelope.

I don't have a problem with Rcade's moderation policy. That doesn't change the fact that this site has some snivelling, little bastards who never once stood up for themselves in real life, who get their jollies by going after people in blogworld who get their panties in a knot.

"Some of Rcade's dumps are of pretty tame shit."

Occasionally.

"Look at the 3 dumps Rex received earning him a vacation."

He deserved it. This is Rcade's site, and he obviously doesn't like that kind of gross vulgarity, and I agree with his policies. If you don't, tough shit.

"That doesn't change the fact that this site has some snivelling, little bastards who never once stood up for themselves in real life, who get their jollies by going after people in blogworld who get their panties in a knot"

Your Jacque Mao's impressions are really pathetic, especially coming from someone who was once perceived around here as somewhat fair-minded and bi-partisan.

And JeffJ, bite me. It all depends on the context. When some fucker deliberately alters my post, not in a funny way like Monte, but like that moron Shoebox, I'll flag it

Translation:

It's OK for m'core to alter goatman's posts in a disgusting way because I don't like him, but non one better alter mine or I'll flag it.

LOL. Oh yea . . .

"WWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!

Gotta love the double standard. What he the DR be without it?

Consider who asked the question. A gay man who is also a hardcore gay supporter with a history of outing closeted gays.

If yer waiting fer Spud to come out and defend Perez Hilton's obvious excesses you'll be waiting a good long time, Pirate.

Also, his question asked if other states should follow those that legalized gay marriage. So the whole "I was looking for a state's right" answer is full of crap. His question already implied it was a state's right issue

She could have opted out of answering the question diectly and declared simply that she thought it was a states right question and that that was part of America's greatness or some such without having to directly say that she thought her Christianity made her intolerance okay.

She failed.

Instead of a non-controversial soft-ball answer appropriate to the venue and occasion she decided to play the burning martyr card the religulous right love so much knowing full well the consequences both positive and negative.

Considering her fucked up whargarbl response about choice at the start of her answer and then her decision to make a politically divisive statement at the end of her answer this bint clearly aint fit to represent the USA in the year 2009.

If you listen to the tape of the question and answer there's sommat there that Spud found quite interesting.

When Perez asked the question many in the audience cheered him.

When Miss CA answered the question there were a few boos but clearly a larger number of cheers.

Such conflict!

While it's true that Californians recently passed Prop H8 in which the majority registered their lack of support for gay marriage it is also true that the numbers in this debate are shifting towards a greater acceptance of gay marriage not a lesser one.

All marriages are legally binding contracts between two people to share their stuff. On a legal level there is no valid reason for not allowing gay people to marry.

There is also no right on the part of the state to force all churches to accept or sanctify gay marriages.

There are also progressive churches who do allow gay marriage and who perform religious ceremonies to sanctify such unions.

Gay marriage without qualifiers is the future.

Intolerance based on how someone is born is a thing of the past or quickly becoming so.

People who don't accept these simple truths are simply on the wrong side of history, humanity and morality.

K?

Be Well.

She didn't lose because she is anti-gay marriage, she lost because she gave a very air-headed response in which she contradicted herself and mispoke. She lost her poise and doesn't have the public relations brains to pull off a succinct and satisfying answer.

"It's OK for m'core to alter goatman's posts in a disgusting way because I don't like him, but non one better alter mine or I'll flag it.

I didn't say that or even imply it, Goattroll. Damn you're stupid.

p.s. maybe you ought to proofead your posts. Some of them are incoherent.

stOOpid html tags!

Ya know Spud hates them.

Just trying to accentuate the word "is" there, obviously.

Be Well.

LOL. Of course, it's proofread.

I didn't say that or even imply it, Goattroll. Damn you're stupid.

As long as you have yourself convinced, that's all that matters. Everyone else can make their own minds up. I hope they are as liberal in their translation of your post as you are. LOL Otherwise you might start whining again.

p.s. maybe you ought to proofead your posts. Some of them are incoherent.

damn, you don't seem to like anything about my posts. A smart person would stop reading them instead of continually indulging in that which bothers him. LOL

So my suggestion to you, my poor little distraught nully -- stop reading my posts. It's such a simple solution I'll bet you are scratching your head and mumbling, "why didn't I think of that?" Eiher that or you are one of those misantropes who lives that paradoxical life of not being happy unless he is miserable.,

As far as prohibiting gay marriage with legislation, I think you're on shaky ground.

#137 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Gays can marry they are doing it right now.

What is funny are guys thinking that there are only two categories that determine the winner of the Miss USA pageant.

lol

And Obama and Hillary and many in congress believe marriage is between a man and a woman--traditional marriage. Where is your outrage?!

The level of abuse coming from the side who are pro-gay marriage is outrageous.

Especially from the judge!

Here is a video on the preliminary judging that goes on for this event.

www.missuniverse.com

This Bitch has been on every show on Fox today, WTF!!!!!!! If Fox Noise has its way She will become the new JOE THE FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!

Cel--She was also on every morning show this morning!

And as for winning or losing the pageant on this question--it is very difficult to say one way or the other.

NC was gorgeous.

Hilton is an asshole.

She could have opted out of answering the question diectly and declared simply that she thought it was a states right question

That's my point. Saying it's a states right issue doesn't answer the question. The question already implies it's a states right issue by asking should the other states follow suit.

So Perez saying he was looking for a "states right" answer is complete BS. He's trying to save face himself.

She could have opted out of answering the question diectly and declared simply that she thought it was a states right question and that that was part of America's greatness or some such without having to directly say that she thought her Christianity made her intolerance okay.

Nowhere did she mention Christianity in her answer to Perez. At least not the clips I've seen. Yes she did fumble her way through and was not very articulate at all.


This Bitch has been on every show on Fox today, WTF!!!!!!! If Fox Noise has its way She will become the new JOE THE FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!

#156 | Posted by celisary

Then don't watch it.

Some people keep hitting their heads against a brick wall.

Hilton is an asshole.

#157 | Posted by MURPHY

He set the Gay Marriage movement back and may be unrecoverable. Gays may need to settle for Civil Unions.

For his punishment, at a sporting event, during the break, they should put him in fenced in areawith 100 gay men and women who chase him around and bitch slap him for 10 minutes. That's entertainment!

Some people keep hitting their heads against a brick wall.

LOL Exactly. It's like the "I-hate-Rush" crowd. They'll come here and say, "Rush sucks, rush sucks, rush sucks. Wait a minute! It's 1:00. I have to go listen to Rush. But I'll be back in three hours to tell you why he sucks so much."

Me? I know he sucks, too. I don't let him into my life or radio like the left does, though. What's wrong with me?

gay rights persecution under way (following old europe's lead). Conyers is plotting to introduce a legislation that would give gays 'special protection' in violation of the 14th.

Goatman-
If you were an elected official in the Republican Party, you would back-track and apologize for that statement within 48 hours, preferably on his radio show.

If you were an elected official in the Republican Party, you would back-track and apologize for that statement within 48 hours, preferably on his radio show

???

That's a pretty outlandish thing to say about me, boyd. There are many people who who say I never apologize to anyone. Why do you disagree with them?

You take yourself too seriously, Goatman. I was merely pointing out the fact that every Republican who has mildly offended Rush's ego has apologized and praised him, hoping to escape the ditto-head wrath that plagued their phone lines and email.

Rush Limbaugh is the de facto head of your former party.

Bummer, dude.

Rush Limbaugh is the de facto head of your former party.

OK. You're either extremely stupid, trolling, or playing your old "you are . . ." game, but I'll bite: What party is that? I never knew myself to be assigned to a political party. I think Rush associates himself with the republicans, but if you are to be believed, it can't be them.

So which is it, boyd?

I was merely pointing out the fact that every Republican who has mildly offended Rush's ego has apologized and praised him, hoping to escape the ditto-head wrath that plagued their phone lines and email.

???

I'm not a republican, so why do you assign this position to me?

You were a Republican, but now you don't like to admit it.

But I'm not so much concerned with you as with the Republican Party that you correctly see as under the thumb of the ditto-heads, commanded by Limbaugh and other self-serving twits.


Rush Limbaugh is the de facto head of your former party.

Bummer, dude.

#166 | Posted by BetelG

Yawn...

commanded by Limbaugh and other self-serving twits.

Must kill...must kill...must kill betelg!

BTW - what the fuck is a Betelg? Why can't you have a normal name we can deface?

#170:

Exactly. Boyd drinks deeply of the kool-aide. He bought the "rush leads the republican party" propoganda put pit bu the democratic leaders hook, line, and sinker.

And if the Republicans are looking for a leader, a new poll suggests how daunting that search may be. Sixty-eight percent of Republicans say the party has no leader. As for Rush Limbaugh - he gets the nod from just 2 percent of Republicans.

www.cbsnews.com

You seem awfully eager to defend the Republican Party whose elected representatives must bow before "Rush" in public penance lest they inadvertently insult the great Maja Rushie, or whatever he calls himself these days.

He bought the "rush leads the republican party" propoganda put pit bu the democratic leaders hook, line, and sinker.

#172 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-22 12:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Who does lead the Republican Party, Goatman? The elected representatives of it, or the one they keep apologizing to?

that you correctly see as under the thumb of the ditto-heads, commanded by Limbaugh and other self-serving twits.

???

I don't see that at all. You know, boyd, that's why I can't stand talking with you. You always put words in my mouth and assign false positions to me and I spend all my time correcting you.

Until you can be honest, please leave me alone, OK? There are enough intellectually honest people here I can interface with without having to put up with your BS.

Pinche's right. You're a fucking idiot. Later

He bought the "rush leads the republican party" propoganda put pit bu the democratic leaders hook, line, and sinker.

#172 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-22 12:02 AM | Reply | Flag: Non Partisan

Later, Goatman.

Who does lead the Republican Party, Goatman?

Google [republican party leaders]

#177 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-04-22 12:10 AM | Reply | Flag

It pains me to say I'm going to have to ignore you tonight, troll. Sorry.

Goatman-
You mean like Michael Steele, who was turned down for a speaking gig at a tea-bagging event, or like Limbaugh, who gave a rambling keynote address at CPAC to delirious applause?

Michele Bachmann? SARAH!?

Newt?

"propoganda put pit bu the democratic leaders hook, line, and sinker."

Wow. AKAstupid has turned into Goattroll.

The whole concept of a "miss universe" competition is ridiculous. The hotties from Vergon 6 have extra tits on their back. How can you have the competition without letting them enter?

BetelG,

If you ever once took the Dems to task on anything, your little snits regarding hypocrisy coming from the GOP might carry a bit more water.

You unconsciously emulate what you deride.

Right back at ya, Jeff "W".

For his punishment, at a sporting event, during the break, they should put him in fenced in areawith 100 gay men and women who chase him around and bitch slap him for 10 minutes. That's entertainment!

You know what else is entertaining? Midget boxing.

Your Jacque Mao's impressions are really pathetic, especially coming from someone who was once perceived around here as somewhat fair-minded and bi-partisan.

I wasn't channeling Mao with the comment you reproduced.

In addition, it was a pretty much spot-on characterization of a few on this site, and you know it.

I have criticized "W" on countless occasions, Betel.

Unfortunately, Jeff, the closest thing the Republican Party has as a leader is Limbaugh.

Jeff-
You criticized Bush the way a tepid beltway "moderate" would. Sorta the way I judge brands of peanut butter.

The hotties from Vergon 6 have extra tits on their back. How can you have the competition without letting them enter?

That shit exists on earth -- just not on the back. I remember as a child looking through my grandfather's medical books. I came across a chapter with pictures of polymastia. There were pictures of women with 4, 6 and 8 breasts. That is one of the many books I made sure I got after he died. It was a lot more interesting than the one that described and had pictures of diseases of the skin.

That shit exists on earth -- just not on the back. I remember as a child looking through my grandfather's medical books. I came across a chapter with pictures of polymastia. There were pictures of women with 4, 6 and 8 breasts. That is one of the many books I made sure I got after he died. It was a lot more interesting than the one that described and had pictures of diseases of the skin.

And here I go thinking I'm all unique because I have a small third nipple.

I agree wholeheartedly that the GOP doesn't possess anything even remotely resembling leadership right now. This is attributable in part to the fact that its most recent leaders were reprehensible in their role.

You may like Obama, and that's fine. Having said that, his term is still so new that he remains an open book. Reid and Pelosi however have been in their roles for quite awhile now...

And here I go thinking I'm all unique because I have a small third nipple.

Ever wonder why my nickname is "Pawn Shop"? It's that third ball. . .

Here's a cool torture, Jeff. You strip someone of their clothing and chain them to a ceiling. You don't allow them to sleep or bathe or use the toilet for a few weeks or months. You go in and slap them around every now and then. For fun you strap them to a board and pour water up their nose, and then maybe lock them naked, soiled and sleep deprived in a small dark box with insects.

Better yet, you make it legal down to the finest detail.

You criticized Bush the way a tepid beltway "moderate" would.

I blasted him on spending.
I was critical of his stance on immigration.
I went ballistic over his salesmanship of ethanol mandates and subsidies.
I criticized his speaking qualities as well as his inability to build more of a coalition and global consensus regarding Iraq.
I derided his senior medical bill.
I went apeshit over TARP.
I've oft characterized him as a shitty president who will likely be relegated to the bottom-10 when judged by historians.
This little list is far-from all-inclusive, BTW.

I haven't disagreed with each and every decision he's made. I haven't gotten all bunged up over trivial shit either.

It will be interesting to see to what extent, if any, you take Obama and the Dems to task as their leadership wears on.

Time will tell, I suppose.

Gotta run.

I'm sure you do, Jeff.

I'm leaving as well.

C'mon, jeff --- boyd knows your political views better than you do. Don't argue with him!

Ever wonder why my nickname is "Pawn Shop"? It's that third ball. . .

Does it ever get in the way of things?

"Here's a cool torture....blah blah blah"

And that's just a beginning, smug wimp...any means necessary to get info is justified. Worked, didn't it.

Does it ever get in the way of things?

Hell, no. It made me the ultimate teabagger.

Hell, no. It made me the ultimate teabagger.

And 50% more virile than the rest of us.

And that's just a beginning, smug wimp...any means necessary to get info is justified. Worked, didn't it.

#201 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2009-04-22 01:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

Did it? All I have heard is the unsubstantiated word of those who ordered torture and now fear possible prosecution for war crimes.

And 50% more virile than the rest of us.

Well, until the day my wife and Dr. Rayburn had different ideas.

Good night everyone. Sleep well.

So as usual, you have it wrong. "Knowing your enemy" when you enemy is a TV channel, will not make them go away.

But I'm sure that Fox and Rush won't argue with your getting to know them better. LOL

#67 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-21 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, you'd rather people just spout off about FAUX News without actually knowing what was said?

Now there's a brilliant argument.

I'm sure you do, Jeff.

If that was intended as a swipe - I work nights.

Yo Jeff!

Did ya hear? Huh, did ya?

Vancouver Canucks won their opening series against St Louis 4 games straight tonight.

A fucking sweep! How sweet is that?

First time EVAR in franchise history!

Spud is stOOpid with the joyfullness tonight! ^_^

/Also more than a little drunk.

Apparently, yer Red Wings are about to repeat last years opening sweep too, this time against the hapless BJs.

Canucks will either face Chicago, the Sharks or Detroit next by Spud's way of thinking.

Obviously Vancouver would rather face Chicago or the Sharks cos we aint dumb but if it does turn out that we gotta face off VC vs. DRW then Spud sez GAME ON and may the best team win.

Good luck!

Be Well.

So, you'd rather people just spout off about FAUX News without actually knowing what was said?

I'd rather that people avoided that which distresses them and whining about it.

Yes, if I wanted to whine about the smell of that rotten road kill, I could not do it accurately without getting my face in it. But wouldn't it be a better idea to just avoid it completely?

Seems logical to me.

Spud,

I heard about the sweep. Congrats!

Detroit's second-round prospects are both a little scary. Yer boys are looking REAL solid as is Anaheim. Anaheim has the added bonus of recently winnning a cup - they've got the experience, they've been there before. I was SO happy when the final games nudged the Ducks to an 8th seed.

Coming into the playoffs I felt the Wings were likely for an early dismissal, based upon how they played this season. I didn't believe they could just 'flip the switch'. So far, they've done just that.

I have little doubt that you are rooting for Anaheim. I think yer boys will beat either Calgary or Chicago. They can beat the Wings, but it will be a tougher battle.

I heard about the sweep. Congrats!

TYVM!

I have little doubt that you are rooting for Anaheim. I think yer boys will beat either Calgary or Chicago.

True dat.

The Flamers are toast right now.

Chicago are also totally doable when you reckon the match ups.

As to Anaheim, Sppud hopes both teams battle so hard that after game 7 they both simply collapse into a puddle of blood and sweat and are so exhausted that they need to all check into a hospital fer a month or two in order to even walk without the use of crutches.

A faint hope but there ya go.

Boston looks formidable as well, especially their Special Teams.

Yer PP guys are no slouches in that regard either.

Spud caught the highlights from last Saturday's game.

Yipes!

Anywho, win or lose this is gonna be one of the most exciting NHL playoffs in a very long while.

KK gonna go check out Goats pix and then go seepy byes cos Ima having ahard time keepnig both eyes open here.

Again ...Good Luck.

Keep yer stick on the ice!

Be Well.

As to Anaheim, Sppud hopes both teams battle so hard that after game 7 they both simply collapse into a puddle of blood and sweat and are so exhausted that they need to all check into a hospital fer a month or two in order to even walk without the use of crutches.

'Tis my hope as well!

I do remember your boys playing the Wings in the first round on '02 and taking the first 2 games at the Joe. It was in game 3 where your goaltender, I believe it was Cloutier, let everybody down by failing to stop Lidstrom's slap shot from center ice!

Anywho, best of luck to yer guys and hopefully the Canuckleheads and the Wings will meet in the conference finals.

Here's hoping.

Who cares what she says. How did she look in a bikini

#215 - Bingo

This smug little bitch blogger, with no credentials whatsoever other than he made a name for himself by exploiting the quintessential gay sterotype, has done more to set back the gay rights movement in 2 days than 50 Miss USA's could have done in a year.

This was an opinion based question. Like her answer or not, you have to respect the fact that given the fact that she had to know it would cost her any chance of winning, she said what she felt. HER OPINION! Of all the contestants that could have gotten this particular question, it had to be Miss CA & it just happened to be from the biggest flaming gay judge on the whole panel & that's just supposed to be random happenstance? Please! Whether you belive God was testing her faith & she rose to the occasion or this was a loaded question that blew up in the face of those with an agenda, it isn't a coincidence. No one was expecting that answer, in that place, at that time. Agree or disagree, it was spectacular. The look on his face was priceless.

I like how just because she happens to be a Christian who holds to her beliefs in a public forum such as the Miss USA pagent it is OK to call her a bitch & a cunt & slap the crown off her head & blah, blah, blah. (BTW, she could kick his fucking twinky eating, cheap wine swilling ass) Where are the women's groups on this one? Where are those on the left who scream choice all the time defending this woman? She feels & believes differently than Perez Hilton. So? That's her right isn't it? Once again, it's not about choice, cue lefty buzz word with no substance. It's about "accept & support what I want to do and believe without question while I ostracize, criticize & demonize your beliefs which of course are wrong unless they agree lockstep with mine".

I find it ironic that a question answered "incorrectly", (which is impossible given it's an opinion question but that's beside the point) about a personal belief is being so widely attacked by people on the premise that they aren't allowed to act on their personal beliefs. Hypocrisy knows no bounds on this one.

(Note to Perez, get your own skank name, this one's taken)

you passed the test, carrie - it is better to be pleasing in the eyes of God than appeasing in the eyes of men. good job!


Goatman-
If you were an elected official in the Republican Party, you would back-track and apologize for that statement within 48 hours, preferably on his [Rush's] radio show.

#163 | Posted by BetelG

Some people just keep hitting their heads against the same brick wall.

I have to believe that she was saying that in this country, you have the ability to make a choice.. I.E. Move to a state that allows it.

However, based on her personal beliefs, she does not support marriage between the same sex.

I want to be the first to out Perez as a closeted heterosexual.

The only good thing in this story is that the woman lost the competition, period.

LM

I could only stomach the first few lib posters here who will in a few days most likely then try and tell us that people of faith arent under attack from the state as well as other liberals.
if some of you had even an inkling of the integreity this young lady had you would all be better off and maybe not as much a collection of liberal space cadets.

you passed the test, carrie - it is better to be pleasing in the eyes of God than appeasing in the eyes of men. good job!

#219 | Posted by nanc

I don't know about every other man but she is pretty pleasing in my eyes.

I want to know who the hell hired an openly gay man to judge a beauty pageant. Couldn't they find any heterosexual men to judge it. It's like hiring an anorexic as a food critic.

and the thing is..stir..they had to KNOW this guy makes a living out of outing gay people which doesnt sound like something some of them would want

but here is the main reason that I say she has more integrity and faith than most of us.

she forgave this bitter gay nazi piece of shit..
and as you can see, I would not have.

www.thefoxnation.com

#226
Are you kidding? Homosexual men are a huge part of the pageant business.

Not that I care one way or another.

dont you mean

not that there's anything wrong with that....

and doesnt it sort of make sense that at least one of the judges is gay
I just dont think the officials thought they were getting a gay AND a nazi.

#229

No, I meant it like I said it. Nobody who knows me here would think I implied there was something wrong with it.

#230

They thought they could capitalize on his popularity to boost ratings, but I guess they only did the most cursory research into who he was.

"and tell us that people of faith arent under attack from the state as well as other liberals."

Like how people of faith are constantly attacking evolution. Texas just lost this battle, AGAIN, so what does Perry do, he holds a closed door meeting with Pastors. Can you say circle jerk, bet you wish you were there. Faith based people are just scared of facts, EVOLUTION is a fact, and the confused faith based people just can't accept it....maybe in the next re-write of the bible they will say god created evolution, it from the long lost gospel of mongrel, that was somehow excluded!

LM

God wasn't testing your faith, twit. The judges were testing your ability to answer cogently, politically, and culturally sensitive to a portion of the populace who disagrees with you. You're supposed to be a damn idol for everyone, not just the idiots who agree with you. Welcome to being an ambassador to the world as Miss America...Get over it. You aren't Job...You aren't a special snowflake. You are a space monkey. And you have now been shot into space.

Who the fuck let Perez judge this thing ?!?!
.....#17 | Posted by KnightHawk

........God.......apparently..
......

You aren't a special snowflake. You are a space monkey. And you have now been shot into space.

The first rule of project runway is YOU DO NOT ASK ABOUT PROJECT RUNWAY!

the definition of "SCUM BAG".
IT'S PEREZ HILTON!
I'd like to meet you SCUM BAG so I could re-arrange your face.
yoy FAGGET!
............#218 | Posted by ozzieoswald...

.......ozzie the Christian........

.......good representation of the faith Ozzie......

it is better to be pleasing in the eyes of God than appeasing in the eyes of men
.........#219 | Posted by nanc

.....Nanc should know......

...she's an expert at not pleasing or appeasing any man.....

EVOLUTION is a fact, LM

#232 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel at 2009-04-22 12:15 PM | Reply

I bet that if you sent me a picture of you and your spouse, I just might believe that we were once monkies..

OH OH

another BELL RINGER FOR me...

sorry...Im sure you are both fine figures of GREEN OOZE

oh shit

somebody stop me.....HA HA HA HA HA

#235 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Thank you for getting the reference.

By the way, do you know the second rule of Project Runway?

I agreee with Nanc here.

#32 | Posted by danni

Does god grade on a curve?

Good for her. It's refreshing to see someone in the public eye not bowing at the atlar of political correctness.

#2 | Posted by HATEBIGGOV

I agree even though I support gay marriage.

Honestly regardless of the opinion this woman expressed, her answer was hardly coherent. So to say she lost because of her beliefs is stupid. She lost because she wasn't winning going in and then she couldn't answer an question coherently. I hope this dies out soon.

IT'S PEREZ HILTON!

I'd like to meet you SCUM BAG so I could re-arrange your face.
yoy FAGGET!

#218 | Posted by ozzieoswald

I can't think of anything funnier than seeing Oozie laying in the gutter, beaten senseless by Perez Hilton.

She owes an apology to the winner for suggesting she didn't win on her own merrits.

***"It just happens that her principles are based on prejudice and bigotry. No problem, though."***ZOMBIE

***"The moment that Perez Hilton, said that he voted against her because of the Gay Marriage question, I knew that the crazies on the right was going to Love her to death."***CELERY

Really?!? Last time I checked, her views on this subject were right in line with those of President Obama, V.P. Biden, and Sec. Of State Clinton. Those darn rightwing bigots!

So what is the point of beauty contests anyways ???

You know if Jeopardy has to lower it's standards to room temperature IQ in celsius to have celebrity jeopardy (which I don't watch) then how about a beauty contest for "ugly" people?

THE SWIM SUIT competion..silly....

that and a ton of money,

there is a photo on fox nation that is funny but I cant get the link from there to here for some reason

it asks the question

just who is the real bitch

and shows this nazi in a long coat with makeup and braids or some shit like that...

"I bet that if you sent me a picture of you and your spouse, I just might believe that we were once monkies.."

Well the talking snake told me I was once a monkey, harharhar....

"sorry...Im sure you are both fine figures of GREEN OOZE"

After the only people who lived got off the ark, wait how come we all don't show our lineage back to the ark.....hahahahaha

Love it when a so-called teacher can't refute FACTS of EVOLUTION, with anything other than weak attempts at comedy. I can enlighten you to all kinds of falsehoods in whichever version of the bible you wish, you can't point out crap on evolution because your another blowhard failed teacher. Again, TEXAS is so much better off without tools like you in teh teacher ranks.

LM

P.S. As I have posted before. I am not married, having too much fun banging all these so-called religious girls here in Texas....many of which who are married x-trians. They love hitting on me at the gym. I do understand why they come to me though, I am athletic, in-shape, am told that I am above average in looks(not vain enough to think that myself), succesful, articulate as well as I don't have any false pretenses I hide behind. I might have even bagged your wife, you never know do ya....

LM

^^^^^Tool


#251 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel at 2009-04-22 02:06 PM

I might have even bagged your wife, you never know do ya....

Some of these guys need to extend their thanks to you LM. Here their wives were dissatisfied that they were lousy lays, and then you came along. After their experience with you, the wives stopped complaining regarding their husband's performance but were thankful for what they had at home. Comparison proves, and they found they had no reason for complaint.

Why don't you post the names of the wives whom you seduced, or who seduced you, so their husbands can transmit some token of appreciation to you.

"Why don't you post the names of the wives whom you seduced, or who seduced you, so their husbands can transmit some token of appreciation to you."

Sure, Ms Johnson is the first, and she just keeps coming back.....sorry limpy.

LM

So what is the point of beauty contests anyways ???

#246 | Posted by member2586

......to sell advertising......

The composition of some enterprises is such that they delight in having themselves associated with some rude ugly fat guy, who delights in being outrageous. I don't think that any man should beat this punk up for being disrespectful to a woman because he is such a pathetic creature anyway impelled to rage by being the sad sack that he is.

He's a biological dead end, a Darwinian failure, who can only express his inner rage at being such a sorry misfit. In addition to his other debilities, he is rude. His caricature of a homo by his lisping mouthing of the word "bitch" in describing the contestant is just too precious as he can't visualize how self-debasing his presentation of himself is.

It's sad how some of those whom nature has dealt a bad hand just rage against the reality of their failure to form as human beings, while a man such as Hawkings can inspirationally accept the fact that he has disabilities and rise above them.

Of course, the support provided this sad creature by other misbegotten malformed folk, should cause the lady whom he attempted to debase to sue the pageant presenters, many of whom it is stated are themselves impaired in the same way as this revolting creature with whom they identify, who used the pageant as a forum to perpetrate this outrage.

#256 | Posted by Johnson

.....never say in a word, what can be stretched out to a page......

......especially if it's meandering, pointless, and unenlightening drivel.......

It's sad how some of those whom nature has dealt a bad hand .....
#256 | Posted by Johnson

.....nature dealt you a bad hand too........

.....it made you into an infinite vat of shit, with chronic verbal diahrrea......

God is testing MY patience with bonehead opinions.

Back in the good old days it was all about FBBL -- face, boobs, butt and legs. This came to be regarded as demeaning to women but not demeaning enough apparently to stop having these contests.

To get our ration of FBBL these days we have to pretend that we care about how well they rehearsed these dumb questions.

By the way, do you know the second rule of Project Runway?

Sir, is this a test? The second rule of project runway is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT PROJECT RUNWAY.

"I don't know about every other man but she is pretty pleasing in my eyes.

#223 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at 2009-04-22 11:19 AM"

I'd fuck her.

I guess you'd have to fantasize in the fat and penis.

#261 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-22 06:27 PM | Reply | Flag: One Trick Pony

She probably fucks like Goatman's daughter did in 10th Grade. Those were the days....

She probably fucks like Goatman's daughter did in 10th Grade.

Which goatman you talking about? This one has no daughter.

(let me guess: this goatman's "daughter" you fucked was fat and had a penis, right?)

I forgot - it's your other family members who don't call or care about you. That's why you rely on this loony bin for your sense of "family." (And tell you son that we're pissed off at him for wearing dresses and sucking off the football team. Who knew?)

(And tell you son that we're pissed off at him for wearing dresses and sucking off the football team. Who knew?)

Good move. When the daughter thing didn't work switch to 'son'. Besides, typing that gave you a chubby didn't it?

But yeah, I'll tell him. I'm sure he'll be impressed with your pre-pubescent attempt at insults. LOL But I warn you -- he's not your type. He weighs only 185 and is 6'5". But you can apply the same fantasies you apply to me to him. I'm sure he won't mind if you mentally add 240 lbs to complete your fantasy.

Danni agrees with Nancy! Wow! My opinion: any twinkie who hates gays and thinks her deity hates gays as well lacks the inner beauty to win such a contest. herm

Okay, we all know that pageants like these are nothing but fluff.
At times, it's enjoyable fluff, but fluff nonetheless.

As a gay rights supporter, I voted against Prop 8, and strongly disagree with anyone who is against gay marriage.

It's their right to feel that way, though, as it's my right to disagree with them.

This is not remotely a question of Ms. Prejean's intelligence or stupidity. It's an unfortunately common practice to automatically attack the intelligence of those we disagree with.

If you want to call her stupid, either because you disagree with her, or because she fumbled a bit while answering a controversial question, fine.

But that's not remotely the issue, and we all know it. Let's stop taking the easy way out.

The real issue is, she was asked a question that was specifically designed to weed out anyone who answered "incorrectly". And frankly, fluff or not, that's inappropriate.

It has no place in a pageant, it has no place in a tolerant society.

She answered according to her beliefs, and should be congratulated for that. She could have given the "correct" answer, but instead she gave an honest answer.

Imagine, twenty or so years ago, a contestant being asked the same question, and giving the opposite answer.
Imagine that she said that gays and lesbians should be allowed to marry.
Imagine that contestant losing the competition solely because of her answer.
It would be just as wrong then as it is now.

The only crime (if you would) committed here was by Perez Hilton, who, let's face it, makes a living as a gossip, offering no real value to anyone.

Hilton pulled a stunt, Ms. Prejean answered honestly, and was punished for it.

For thinking. For honesty. For speaking to her beliefs.

Are these not American values?

Do I agree with her? Absolutely not.
Do I think she did the right thing? Absolutely.

If anything, this sort of story does nothing for gay rights. Does nothing for supporters of gay marriage. It harms the entire movement.

A movement which simply says that homosexual marriage is neither a threat, nor less than, heterosexual marriage, and should be a basic right.

But this sort of story undermines that. It gives fuel to the idea that the "gay agenda" is a threat to American values.

And it's not a threat.

But when good people, smart people, see things like this, why would they think otherwise?

Oh shocking - 6'5". Goatman's fantasy extends to his family. You son's a fag, and your ex-wife hates you.

Somehow Goat, Jr. doesn't look 6'5": media.photobucket.com

Must be the camera angle.

I forgot - it's your other family members who don't call or care about you. That's why you rely on this loony bin for your sense of "family."

That's right. The only people who speak to me do it to complete sexual fantasies they have about overweight bloggers and their son.

Must be the camera angle.

Must be. But don't let lopsided cameras destroy the your fantasy.

I thought you didn't click on links?

You son's a fag,

You wish.

and your ex-wife hates you.

Everyone hates me. COngratulations on the superbly cunning deduction.

I thought you didn't click on links?

I don't

Are you really 58, Goat? Cause that's pretty old.

I thought you said you were only 6'4"?

Lake Worth Monster: This case hit the public consciousness in the summer of 1969. While America was caught up in the moon landing, sightings of this hairy creature were being reported in the Greer Island area of Lake Worth in Fort Worth, Texas. The animal was described as being approximately seven feet tall, weighing in the neighborhood of three hundred pounds, covered with white hair and walked upright like a man. It was seen repeatedly throughout the year and during July the area was packed with locals who had witnessed the beast. At one point it was said to have become annoyed at the onlookers and hurled an automobile wheel and tire at them from the distance of five hundred feet. Needless to say, they leapt into their cars and departed the area post haste.

The last sighting of the creature that year was by Charles Buchanan on November 7. He was sleeping in the open bed of his pickup truck and was awakened when his sleeping bag was suddenly grabbed by a creature and was pulled from the truck. He stuffed a bag of chicken in its mouth and it shuffled off into the water and swam towards Greer Island.

Are you really 58, Goat? Cause that's pretty old.

What age best fulfills your fantasy of me? I'll be it. Do the young fat guys do it for you or the old fat guys?

MySpace is fun, and a virtual minefield of information. Cheers, Goat

MySpace is fun...

Lots of old fat guys, huh? I thought it was more of an young people's thing

You'd think. But even 58 y/o guys from Lake Worth/Fort Worth trying to act younger than their age use the site. Weird, huh? Channels.

You'd think. But even 58 y/o guys from Lake Worth/Fort Worth trying to act younger than their age use the site. Weird, huh?

I've seen weirder. Like people who like to add fantasy pounds and subrtract height from other bloggers of the same sex for god only knows whatever reasons.

God only knows whatever, indeed.

Perez Hilton is such an ass...

I don't care if he wants to marry his boy toy or not. But his inability to be civil to someone who has a differing opinion speaks volumes as to his immaturity as a human.

What a doofus is Perez Hilton. He can't even use his own name, but has to ride on the coattails of another.

She has her opinion. He has his. But whenever I see someone calling names and doing the "ad hominem" dance, I know they really have nothing of value to say.

Be straight. Be gay. Be bi. I don't care. But at least respect the rights to have opinions or beliefs different from your own. It isn't like she's going to campaign to outlaw same sex marriage.

Tom,

"A movement which simply says that homosexual marriage is neither a threat, nor less than, heterosexual marriage, and should be a basic right."

The problem is that while I agree that gay people deserve and are entitled to full legal protection from discrimination for themselves and their relationships, I do not agree that automatically includes marriage.

Can you explain what marriage has to do with gay rights? Has not the goal been for all minorities to be protected by the law from discrimination and be provided full legal status?

What does that have to do with marriage?

Gay marriage and gay rights are 2 completely different issues with completely different objectives.

And this doesn't have anything to do with "intolerance".

Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't make them intolerant.

Blaming your difference of opinion on other people being "intolerant" is too easy and a cop-out.

Besides...who says the ultimate goal is a "tolerant society" anyway?

Excuse me...but there is a LOT I can think of I don't want to see society become tolerant of.

While gay people are entitled to full legal status as Americans and protection from all manners of discrimination, that doesn't include their so-called "right" to marry.

I DO want to see gay relationships be protected under the law, but again, that doesn't automatically include "marriage".

Why are you all so intolerant of this person's religious beliefs? Seems a bit small minded and bigoted of you.

Fascism is the Rule in Hollywood. What a bunch of suckers.

This woman id brilliant. She has gotten more press by coming in second place than she would have gotten if she won. By tanking this question, everyone will remember Miss California. I have seen her all over the TV but have yet to see the winner anywhere.

Pe4ez Hilton is a low life intlerant POS, who freaks because someone does not agree withe the gay agenda. What a douche.

Perez Hilton is a low life intolerant POS, who freaks because someone does not agree with the gay agenda.

Actually, Both Mr. Hilton and Ms Prejean are freaks.

Hilton is a Freak of Nature.

Prejean is a Jesus Freak.

Hilton is intolerant of intolerance.

Prejean is just plain intolerant.

If Spud only had one POS award to hand out Perez would be the runner-up and Carrie would take home the crown, the award and the bouquet of dead roses.

/And Spud aint really wotcha call a fan of PH.

Gay Marriage is an idea who's time has come.

It will be a stabilising force in society.

It will not "destroy traditional marriage" as so many Talibaptist types have warned.

America's history as a progressive nation is one of it's greatest strengths.

Eliminating slavery was a good idea.

Giving women equal rights was a good idea.

Allowing mixed race marriages was a good idea.

Giving minorites equal rights and protections under the law was a good idea.

Gay Marriage is a good idea.

Sorry if those truths don't agree with yer intolerant religulous agenda.

Be Well.

So President Hussein is a 'religious intolerant' Spud?

If America is so progressive why did America abolish slavery so many decades after England. I always find it amusing how gay "rights" activists equate gay marriage to the civil rights movements. Too bad blacks don't view it that way. They put gay marriage in its place in California

So President Hussein is a 'religious intolerant' Spud?

Well he's definitely religious.

Goes to church and everything.

Obama believes in Civil Unions that carry all the benefits of regular marriage but not the title "marriage".

This is a point upon which Spud disagrees with Obama.

/Not the only one, btw.

//Being on the left is a little more complicated than being on the right cos it involves actually articulating ones positions on issues rather than simply agreeing with wotever yer party leaders are saying.

This Miss CA bint did not say she believes in civil unions or that she thought it was a states right issue simply that She didn't beleive in Gay Marriage and later inplied that she thought God would paste a gold star on her forehead fer saying so.

Her intolerance is really 33% ignorance and 33% immoral religous dogma and 34% stupidity combined.

Obama's position is more 99% political realism combined with a 1% smattering of religious intolerance.

Hope you found Spud's answer helpful.

^_^

Be Well.

So Ms. California having an opinion different from some douche that defines himself by his love of man ass is 'intolerance'?

But 'the douche' (enema would be a better term in this case) is tolerant when he calls her a stupid bitch for having an opinion different from his own.

I guess the real lowlife's in this story are the organizers of the Ms. America pageant who allowed some woman hating pillow biter to judge a lady.

Okay, we all know God moves in mysterious ways and all but honestly, ...using Perez Hilton as an instrument of His Divine Will?

Wotta joker!

Be Well.

#1 | Posted by dethspud

Spud in his infinite wisdom, has said it all for me and stolen my thunder. This sucks Spudster. Thanks for nothing!

This sucks Spudster. Thanks for nothing!

All apologies, Keith!

In Spud's defense Spud actually had to start the thread and then rush put that one in the first post in order to make sure Spud was the first one to crack the joke.

If Spud had a nickle fer every time Spud came up with a wicked bon mot fer a thread only to have his hopes dashed by discovering one of the other posters here had beat Spud to the punchline then Spud would be a very rich tater indeed.

It's the nature of the blog-beast, Keith.

You know that.

Actually, is kinda funny.

Spud is make thread initially just to to crack a cheap one liner and here we are 296 posts later.

Wot a long, strange thread this has been.

Again ...all apologies.

Be Well.

I just found out a former Ms. America Kelli Mccarty is doing porno films.

But 'the douche' (enema would be a better term in this case) is tolerant when he calls her a stupid bitch for having an opinion different from his own

Sez who?

Actually, if you'd read the thread you'da noticed that lefties and indeed folks of all political stripes have taken Mr Hilton to task fer his no class histrionics.

The blog god refered to him as a "John Water's character brought to life" which you would know, if you've seen the films, is NOT a compliment.

Spud's called him a "Freak of Nature" and sed he was "Not a fan" of the man.

Spud also posted a couple of deeply unflattering pix.

At no point did Spud countenance the man's disrespectful usage of the "b word" or refer to him as "tolerant".

If you'd like it spelled out fer yas PH's "B word" commentary was unneccessary, divisive and counter productive and he is being rightfully ridiculed because of it.

Now, cos of yer last couple of posts, Spud is forced to strip Miss CA of her POS award and crown and give 'em to you.

Gratz.

Be Well.

Spud, you may think this song is about you, but it ain't.

Tru dat.

JA, my favorite has always been Vanessa Williams, she really had that tongue dug deep in the beaver hole.

It is rather sad some posters insist in refering to themselves in the third person.Also, it is unoriginal. Jimmy beat you to the punch about 15 years ago in "Seinfeld"

it is unoriginal

It's a hommage.

To Cerebus.

Who's usage predates Jimmy, Bob Dole and Tickle-Me-Elmo.

Vanessa Williams

Ahhhh, Spud and Rex may have polar opposite views politically but we are both fans of fine B&W photography.

Be Well.

I was shocked beyond belief when that happened.

Here was Vanessa Williams, beautiful, intelligent, talented (best Ms. America singer ever), and of course black.

And then the pictures came along, and she wasn't faking in those pics, she was get into it.

BTW, I am the blog god.

I thought this was supposed to be a contest where psychological features were... well... not exactly relevant.

I'd rather that people avoided that which distresses them and whining about it.

Yes, if I wanted to whine about the smell of that rotten road kill, I could not do it accurately without getting my face in it. But wouldn't it be a better idea to just avoid it completely?

Seems logical to me.

#209 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-22 05:07 AM | Reply | Flag

I don't think anyone's arguing that road-kill smells bad. Now, Fox News credibility......that's another story....literally.

no offense meant to any parties here...

(but probably will offend somebody somehow
anyways)...lol, what can I say, I have a talent...

Anyhoo, a couple of things...

1. We are expecting "wisdom" from the mouth of
a blonde barbie bombshell, who has probably known
nothing of hardship in life, and given her looks
has probably gotten nearly everything she has ever
wanted in life? Yeah, that's a world-wise, informed opinion........NEXT!!

2. Sure she is entitled to her opinion, and I don't
particularly have much difficulty with what she said, except she said something to the effect of... (and I paraphrase since I have neither the will nor the requisite effort to look up what she said verbatum)..."not in my country" or some such in her
10 seconds of fame schpeal...Which is fine I guess,
if you're on the Right and/or one of those "Moral Superiors", who insist everyone think like you do...like some on the Right seem to have an unhealthy preoccupation with...

3. Perez Hilton (the name says it all)--is as gay as the workday is long...

WTF is a Gay man doing judging females in a beauty contest!?? Sure gays are citizens, and have their rights and such, and don't necessarily bother me, but--WTF? Shouldn't beauty contests for women be judged by women and straight men? You don't see straight dudes flocking to some gay bar to judge gay dude beauty contests...I mean really...gay men have no place in such a setting, unless, it is in the audience.

who decided to put him on this panel anyways?

(there now, now that I have offended fully half of the readership, I feel my work here is done--dusts off his hands as he leaves)...

This has nothing to do with marriage & everything to do with equal rights. Civil Unions ARE Marriages! Marriage is a religous connotation of a civil union & has nothing to do with equal protection. Further, the UNION, not marriage between a man & a woman are the cornerstone of civilization no matter how many abusive, one-sided, screwed up, then liberated, and more equal phases it's been through. That's the reality, like it or not. Whether it's fair or not, unfair or not as truth can often be.

Regardless of how you feel about gay relationships, (I personally don't give a shit one way or the other) the main agenda of the GLTB is to stick it to Christian's on the right for all of their perceived scapegoating & persecution, by the far right, real or imagined since like all "protected classes" they're groomed to be offended by the current political client and have their grievances exploited. That's why they just HAVE to use the word marriage at all. Equal rights often means special considerations.

Question: Does domestic partner coverage include hetero couples that only live together but aren't married? If not, that's unfair isn't it? (really don't know?)

It's a state issue anyway. We keep hearing how "America" is ready for it but apparently not all of America. It shouldn't be approved or banned on a federal scale anyway.

"(there now, now that I have offended fully half of the readership, I feel my work here is done--dusts off his hands as he leaves)..."
#306 | Posted by earthmuse

Not me. I think you're right. What's the point? Why not hire a celebate priest? I suppose you could justify it in terms of the fashion angle.

I read in a book once where a guy tells a priest who was chastising him for his lack of control with women, the guy says, "you can't comment on the porriage if you don't eat the oats" something like that. Makes sense.

We keep hearing how "America" is ready for it but apparently not all of America. It shouldn't be approved or banned on a federal scale anyway.

#307 | POSTED BY HATEBIGGOV

States rights again?

Could you imagine if Slavery was left up to the states or suffrage was left up to the states? Imagine that patchwork of laws. States rights is bigoted code speak for not where I live.

"the main agenda of the GLTB is to stick it to Christian's on the right for all of their perceived scapegoating & persecution,"

Bull puckey.

"Question: Does domestic partner coverage include hetero couples that only live together but aren't married? If not, that's unfair isn't it? (really don't know?)"

Yes.

HBG,

Gay bashing isn't a perceived term. If you don't think these people are persecuted, then you don't have any gay friends and haven't been exposed to any gay people in your life. They became the new "lower lives" in American society. A group anyone could make fun of, look down on, and physically abuse without themselves being taken to task for it and usually with the approval of the masses. Celibate priest=oxymoron. Your domestic partnership is called comon law marriage. I do agree that it's a state issue,just like abortion and legal marijuana....to much fed intervening.

LM

Yes.

#310 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Clarification - the yes is that domestic partner registrations include opposite sex couples as well.

"States rights is bigoted code speak for not where I live."
#309 | Posted by rastaninja

So the Fed is just dictating everything now? What is the point of states anyway? Does anyone know? If we're going to centralize everything in DC, what's the point? The Federal Gov't should make sure that all Federal benefits are available to everyone, (I don't know why anyone would dispute that) & leave anything delegated to & ran by the states up to them. Again, it's gotta be all or nothing.

"Gay bashing isn't a perceived term. If you don't think these people are persecuted, then you don't have any gay friends and haven't been exposed to any gay people in your life"
#310 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

I don't doubt that at all. I know there is persecution & hatred & a lot of justifying your way of life to people who don't want to listen. We had a shooting at a gay bar in Roanoke, VA when I was in college & it really shook the community. I sang in the benefit concert for the families & I met their parents & siblings & saw their grief. I GET IT in a personal way.

I made my friend Christal & her partner Jessica my kids' Godparents & my family thinks I'm nuts. Chris & Jessie are in the best position to love them, make sure they go to college & protect their financial interests in the event of my death. When she came out I sat the kids down & told them & was amazed that they understood the terminology & didn't even seem to have a lot of questions! Gay & lesbian, partner, homosexual, they knew, they just didn't know about Christal. I ended up getting a lesson from them on acceptance & humility because they didn't get the big deal & were basically like, "So? And?" I must be doing something right. Kids are so sophisticated.

People like this asshole Perez Hilton do not help matters. This prick DESERVES to be persecuted just for being an ASSHOLE who happens to be gay. He'd be an asshole if he were straight! Has anyone in the GLTB community or the leadership of any gay goups come out & called him on his attitude or the hateful tone he's used since this whole USA thing started? They should. If they had any integrity on the issue, they WOULD! Correct me if I'm wrong, I'd be glad to see it.

People like this asshole Perez Hilton do not help matters. This prick DESERVES to be persecuted just for being an ASSHOLE who happens to be gay. He'd be an asshole if he were straight! Has anyone in the GLTB community or the leadership of any gay goups come out & called him on his attitude or the hateful tone he's used since this whole USA thing started? They should. If they had any integrity on the issue, they WOULD! Correct me if I'm wrong, I'd be glad to see it."

I think he's an ass, and said so much, much earlier on this thread.

However, he is a "celebrity" blog character and doesn't speak for our community, is not a leader of our community, and, in fact, has very little respect in our community. He is, in many ways, a "shock jock" similar to Howard Stern in that he makes his living by being controversial and outrageous.

What in hell anyone was thinking putting a jerk like that on a beauty contest judging panel is beyond me.

"I know there is persecution & hatred & a lot of justifying your way of life to people who don't want to listen. We had a shooting at a gay bar in Roanoke, VA when I was in college & it really shook the community."

My way of life? I am a heterosexual male, but a few of my gay friends hope one day I will switch teams.

LM

I treat peple like PH just like I treat pope Rat, I don't listen to them. They are no better than Rush or Jesse Jackson in my book, blow hard dipshits out for fame and money.

LM

My way of life? I am a heterosexual male, but a few of my gay friends hope one day I will switch teams.

LM

#315 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel

Have they tried the free toaster oven offer yet?

"My way of life? I am a heterosexual male, but a few of my gay friends hope one day I will switch teams"
LM
#315 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel

I didn't mean YOUR personally I meant "you go through life feeling like you have to justify" speaking of people in general. I meant no offense.

What was it that girl in Coyote Ugly said, "I'm not a lesbian. I've dabbled in the minors but never went pro"

Batter up....

"I didn't mean YOUR personally I meant "you go through life feeling like you have to justify" speaking of people in general. I meant no offense"

No offense was taken, just wanted it out there for clarification purposes.....since I have de many hetero comments out here....just ask lil johnson and his wife. I have never been able to finish coyote ugly, just a dumb movie.

SanRogue,

Funny shit there....no but they hve tried a few other tricks...just like women they try to seduce as well.

Lazy work do so I am off to the gym.....

LM

"Lazy work do so I am off to the gym....."
LM

#319 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel

Off to the gym? I'll let that go given the context. Enter gay stereotype #1. The gym! The hotness is a natural side effect. I've tried to turn a few with little success.

Oh well.....

Perez Hilton, as far as I can tell, hates women. Hates them. He seems to hate Christians, too. So a Christian women in his sights? Anyone surprised?

I agree with some above, Perez has set homosexual rights back ten years. The public might extend a gay the the right to marry; they won't give a misogynist the time of day.

Perez has set homosexual rights back ten years.

#321 | Posted by Zed

I think you grossly overestimate the power of both the Miss USA contest, and Perez Hilton.

It is essentially a tempest in a teapot that got some momentary publicity. No one will remember it by day after tomorrow.


Perez has set homosexual rights back ten years.

#321 | Posted by Zed

I think you grossly overestimate the power of both the Miss USA contest, and Perez Hilton.

It is essentially a tempest in a teapot that got some momentary publicity. No one will remember it by day after tomorrow.

#322 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Considering that our PC-culture is structured around the notion that certain classes of people can say whatever they want without fanfare simply because they are members of a PC-protected class - Rogue is spot-on. This guy is a flaming faggot, therefore he is incapable of being spurned, as long as he targets his derision, no matter how vile, toward an unprotected PC group.

That's pretty much a load, Jeff.

Well, I do have a habit of exaggeration. But this story has acquired a David versus Goliath aspect with the interesting twist it's no longer the gay person with the slingshot.

People tend to remember stories like that, and might start meditations on who, exactly, is being persecuted by a larger society.

You're casting Perez Hilton as "Goliath"?

I don't think so. He's an insignificant little pipsqueak who must have some incriminating photos of Donald Trump.

And I don't think anyone, except he himself, has defended or condoned what he said.

It's not a load at all, Rogue.

Let's play the hypothetical game....

Let's say she was a black chick and Hilton was a white, hetero-male. Let's say he asked her a question regarding reparations and she answered in favor of them. THEN, let's say he publicly spurned her for her answer in the exact same manner that Hilton did to this chick. Do you think the media's handling of it would have been even remotely similar???

And I don't think anyone, except he himself, has defended or condoned what he said.

Not only have plenty of individuals condoned what he said, they've echoed it - on this very blog!

I read an interesting thesis that one reason the old Sixties agenda is gradually being realized is because most people have learned not to see it as threatening to more old-fashioned values.

I live in a small town. No one cares about the nice gay couple living sedately literally down the street. They are important and valuable members of the community.

They would care that someone like Perez Hilton moved next to them. They'd regard him in the same way they'd regard a member of the Crips.

Let's not play any hypothetical games. Let's just take the facts at hand and deal with them.

Hilton is a jerk. He behaved like a jerk. He doesn't represent anyone but himself. The reaction by the media and others to his comments was justifiably negative.

Most people see it for what it is, and don't try to pretend it has some giant overarching symbolic meaning to society.

#326

I don't think so.

I don't think so either. Until this thread came up, I didn' even know he existed. I am amazed so many people put so much stock in a pink haired freak

on this very blog!

#328 | Posted by JeffJ

And that is a measure of... what, exactly?

They would care that someone like Perez Hilton moved next to them. They'd regard him in the same way they'd regard a member of the Crips.

#329 | Posted by Zed

They would probably feel the same way about Howard Stern, or the Osbournes.

Most people don't like extremism.

Do you actually think that Perez Hilton is some sort of icon or hero in the GLBT community?

Like most I never heard of Perez before the other day. But he appears to have made a nation-wide impression in just a few days, and that's my point.

People don't know he's an extremist. He was a judge on Miss America, for God's sake.

That's what people are seeing. The loudmouth who jumped the pretty girl on TV and then went on later to piss on her publically.

I am amazed so many people put so much stock in a pink haired freak

#331 | Posted by goatman

And apparently it seems to be mostly the straight folk trying to create some sort of political or cultural statement out of this dumb ass's behavior.

I agree it was dumb-assed behavior. I also agree he was making a cultural statement. An hysterical one, in the very old-fashioned meaning of the term.

The loudmouth who jumped the pretty girl on TV and then went on later to piss on her publically.

#334 | Posted by Zed at 2009-04-23 10:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think she pissed on herself with her bigotry. She should have been wearing a sheet and hood instead of a bikini. She's only pretty on the outside.

The loudmouth who jumped the pretty girl on TV and then went on later to piss on her publically.

#334 | Posted by Zed

But he didn't actually do anything on the show, other than ask the question, which was perfectly legit. His behavior afterward was abominable. But I'd still be willing to bet you that if you asked most people they would be unaware of the whole controversy, and that even fewer would believe that Perez Hilton represents anything or anyone but his own overinflated sense of ego.

I think sometimes we here on the DR and other blogs tend to forget that not everyone in the world gets as immersed and engaged in all these topics like we often do.

And apparently it seems to be mostly the straight folk trying to create some sort of political or cultural statement out of this dumb ass's behavior.

If I fully understand the dynamics of the story, it would be very unusual that the gay community would have issue.

"She's only pretty on the outside...."

Thank you for making a point for a few of us.

My further point is that confrontations like this one between the contestant and Perez may force many people to make a decision in regards to what they think is normal.

She's only pretty on the outside.

#337 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Speaking of loads of crap...

Bob- she's entitled to her beliefs. She didn't say she hated anybody, or that she was better than anybody, just that she believed marriage was between a man and a woman.

I disagree with her opinion. But her opinion, in and of itself, doesn't make her a bigot.

If I fully understand the dynamics of the story, it would be very unusual that the gay community would have issue.

#339 | Posted by goatman

I don't really know what that means.

But her opinion, in and of itself, doesn't make her a bigot.

#341 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-04-23 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Speaking of loads of crap...

I agree she is entitled to her opinion---but her opinion DOES make her a bigot. It could be her opinion that blacks are inferior to whites--same thing. Bigotry is all about opinions---some opinions are bigoted--some aren't. Hers are bigoted--taught to her by her bigoted parents, and by her bigoted church.

She's only pretty on the outside.

bOoB must've been an ugly child

Bob has chosen Perez. The question is how many people out there are represented by the two of them. Even raising that question sets back Gay rights.

#343 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

"I agree she is entitled to her opinion---but her opinion DOES make her a bigot"

You assume she's a bigot because she's a Christian. That makes YOU a bigot I'd say.

"It could be her opinion that blacks are inferior to whites--same thing. Bigotry is all about opinions---some opinions are bigoted--some aren't."

My understanding is that RACISM believes in superiority & bigotry is just not liking something or someone who is black, or Asian, or in this case, gay. You know what? She can be a bigot if she wants, freedom & all, but just because you may be offended by it, it's not your right NOT to be offended as that is your reaction to something.

"Hers are bigoted--taught to her by her bigoted parents, and by her bigoted church."

Again, Christian bigotry, which is of course, perfectly acceptable & encouraged by the PC thugs. Oh, & obviously you personally know her family & the entire congregation to make such an assumption? It must be true.....

Love it when a so-called teacher can't refute FACTS of EVOLUTION, with anything other than weak attempts at comedy. I can enlighten you to all kinds of falsehoods in whichever version of the bible you wish, you can't point out crap on evolution because your another blowhard failed teacher. Again, TEXAS is so much better off without tools like you in teh teacher ranks.

LM

#248 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel at 2009

AND here we go again

and I guess you are just too slow to recognize a joke thrown out now and then.
what a prick.

Rush Limbaugh is the de facto head of your former party.

Bummer, dude.

#165 | Posted by BetelG at 2009-04-

this is so funny

a party personified by the likes of garrafalo and this gay nazi ...now talking shit about rush...
nice....real nice....

UPDATE 4/21/09: Less than a week after calling conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh a mere "entertainer," the apology from Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Ks.) has arrived. Not only did Tiahrt deny any attempt to denigrate Limbaugh, Tiahrt's spokesman called Limbaugh a "great leader."

Ba da bump, bump, bump...

Another one bites the dust.

"Another one bites the dust."

Looks like Boss Limbaugh has the entire GOP kissing his fat ass.

#350
How embarassing.

Bob- she's entitled to her beliefs. She didn't say she hated anybody, or that she was better than anybody, just that she believed marriage was between a man and a woman.

I disagree with her opinion. But her opinion, in and of itself, doesn't make her a bigot.

You have to remember that if you disagree with da bOoB or have a differing opinion, he thinkgs you are a bigot and hate America. Funny he doesn't see the irony in that as that attitude makes him the ultimate bigot and America hater.

Looks like Boss Limbaugh has the entire GOP kissing his fat ass.

???

I thought the GOP had more than two people.

if you think THAT was another biting the dust

it seems that this gay nazi is in REAL DEEP SHIT NOW..

look who is PISSED at him,.........

www.tmz.com

"what a prick."

That's what she said!!

LM

I thought the GOP had more than two people.

#352 | Posted by goatman

Not by much.

And this makes 3 very public apologies by elected Republican officials who dared criticize an "entertainer".

Not by much.

And this makes 3 very public apologies by elected Republican officials who dared criticize an "entertainer".

I guess in some fantasy world 57,000,000 isn't 'much' more than 3, but in the new math I learned by it is.

And to think y'all make fun of Vern's calculator! LOL

BTW, as I've always said, I hate Rush as much as any left winger (probably more, since I never quote him as they like to) but I hate this 'fuzzy' math even more than I hate Rush.

but I hate this 'fuzzy' math even more than I hate Rush.

#357 | Posted by goatman

Oh come one. For once in your life admit the obvious - it is ridiculous and embarrassing for elected Republican officials to have to publicly apologize to somebody like Rush Limbaugh.

As for the "fuzzy" math. I have to assume that you knew I was joking, but chose to pretend something different.

(And BTW, 57,000,000 votes in a election does not equal 57,000,000 Republicans.)

"Looks like Boss Limbaugh has the entire GOP kissing his fat ass."

The average age of the Rushbo listener is 67, and most of them probably smoke, drink, and self-flagellate. Death by Demographics - coming to a radio station near you. (The average Fox viewer is in his/her 60's too - only old fucks like right wing radio and tv.)

Knowing your penchant for fantasizing about fat men, can we assume that you are 67 YO, smoke, drink, and self flagellate too, m'core?

For once in your life admit the obvious - it is ridiculous and embarrassing for elected Republican officials to have to publicly apologize to somebody like Rush Limbaugh.

Of course I admit it. Did I ever deny it?

Now, for once, let's hear you admit that the GOP number in tens of millions, not three people.

BTW, 57,000,000 votes in a election does not equal 57,000,000 Republicans.)

You are right. There could be more.

"Of course I admit it. Did I ever deny it?"

Not denying something is not the same as admitting it.

"Now, for once, let's hear you admit that the GOP number in tens of millions, not three people.

Of course it does. Once again *joke*.

You are right. There could be more.

#362 | Posted by goatman

Actually, according to most polls, the number that self-identify as Republicans is considerably less.

But before you leap into defensive position - yes, they still number in the millions.

ON a side note, can we get a webcam set-up for the duel between Monte and Goat....you two absolutley despise each other. I would like to see a good ol' fashioned boxing match to put this one to rest....just my thought.

LM

"I've tried to turn a few with little success.
#319 | Posted by HATEBIGGOV at 2009-04-23 09:15 AM"

They didn't fall for you? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you! journeyamerica.files.wordpress
.com

I think God put YOU here to test OUR faith Carrie.

Part of the problem regarding gay couples and their relationships is there is the politically correct opinion that gay relationships are "just like" straight relationships.

That is the grand illusion.

I think Civil Unions are a great idea for many reasons; some political, some emotional, and some practical.

I hear people say that Civil Unions are a gay version of "separate but equal".

I see it differently.

Civil Unions are what I would call "equal but separate".

Bear in mind the primary objective of SBE was to keep people who are the same, separated.

The primary objective of EBS is to give people who are different, equal status.

I do not believe in the grand illusion that gay relationships are just like straight ones.

Gay people should not have less status than straight people, nor should they have any less rights than straight people.

Civil Unions work because it doesn't try to pretend gay couples are "just like" straight couples.

Quite frankly, many straight men prefer the world to know they are straight, and that is ok.

There are men who want the world to know they are gay, and that is ok, too.

Straight men could have marriages, while gay men would have Civil Unions. Or straight couples could have a CU is they wanted.

This isn't politically correct, by any means, but it would offer a way for gays and straights to co-exist much more peacefully, and frankly I am just as concerned about that, as I am seeing gay people finally be free of persecution and fear.

Btw...I must say I tend to agree with the poster who said this demanding for the word "marriage" is an attempt to "stick it to the church".

Gay people would do well to evaluate their motives and ask themselves why they wouldn't accept a CU solution that provided all rights, privileges and responsibilities as "marriage".

Or do you cling to the grand illusion?

Gay people would do well to evaluate their motives and ask themselves why they wouldn't accept a CU solution that provided all rights, privileges and responsibilities as "marriage".

Replace GAY with BLACK and MARRIAGE with CITIZENSHIP and maybe you'll start to figure it out.

Take all the time you need.


Gay people would do well to evaluate their motives and ask themselves why they wouldn't accept a CU solution that provided all rights, privileges and responsibilities as "marriage".

Replace GAY with BLACK and MARRIAGE with CITIZENSHIP and maybe you'll start to figure it out.

Take all the time you need.

#369 | Posted by Manypaths

How about you replace MARRIAGE with CIVIL UNION.

a report I heard earlier said that the

gay bloggers for hillary have sent this gay nazi a 'nasty' letter...I can only assume that its to "sternly lecture' him about his mouth

and I wonder how many people are in the gay bloggers for hillary there are?

not really

That wasn't God...it was a hack blogger

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