Did you ever catch Rhandi and her phone-ins when she was screeching across Air America?
There are more than a few "cans of nuts" on both extremes of the parties.

Remember when Bush was going to declare martial law?

Remember when Clinton was going to declare martial law?

Yeah from what I remember Bush was still going to be president due to an act of terror before the transition of power...

'Cuse me all to hell? Rhandi Rhodes wasn't an alarmist. She was a crack journalist who had an excellent team of investigators, and only reported from the record.

Unlike some Faux slimeballs we all know and loathe.

Both sides inflame the nuts. Are they responsible somewhat sure I certainly do not think it is ok for them to suggest violence against anyone. However saying that Obama is going to take your guns is a far cry from saying kill a law enforcement officer.

Radio has to sensationalize things people don't have to act on the sensationalizim.

These guys should never be allowed out in public without their medication and straitjacket but somehow keep turning up on Fox News clearly unmedicated and waving their arms about.

Tao-
Why does radio (and TV) have to "sensationalize things" with lies and gross distortions?

As a liberal, I believe that the value of free speech
has no limit.

However, the hate-speech of Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly,
Beck, etc.,...incites violence against persons of color,
women, gays, transgendered, jews, the obsese
as well as all other groups of inclusion.

These straight, christian white males with their
predictable stereotyping are out of control.

PULL THE PLUG ON REICH-WING TALK RADIO

1. Ban conservatives from the airwaves
2. Provide government paid 'social orientation'
3. Fine offenders
4. Incarcerate repeat offenders
5. Pour federal dollars into diverse/progressive talk-radio

"It's not too late to stop the hate" (TM)

Be Well.

I seriously doubt that Limbaugh, Hannity, or the pudgy Beck incite violence against fatties, Skip.

Now I've forgotten. Did Limbaugh get out of service in Vietnam because he was too fat, or was it something else?

I thought it was a boil on His ass BetelG

"As a liberal, I believe that the value of free speech
has no limit....PULL THE PLUG ON REICH-WING TALK RADIO" #8 | Posted by skip_wellington

I believe this is called an oxymoron.

KBM-
Not to put too fine a point on it, but your are a moron and "Skip" is a right-wing troll.

You're right, Larry. It was a boil on the ass of the Limbaugh that prevented his service to his country in a war he supported.

I guess we could say the Limbaugh "baby" prevented Him from fighting in a war that He enthusiastically supported.

Larry

Larry-
Ahhhhhh! Don't do that!

Ever see the movie "How to Get Ahead in Advertising"?

Nope never even heard of it. Is it any good??

Don't even remember if it's any good or not. I remember enjoying it. Google it and see if it seems interesting. It was about twenty years ago when I watched it. I think I'll rent it, just to see it again.

" Should the hosts of these gabfests assume any kind of responsibility when someone takes their caustic rants seriously enough to reach a drastic final solution?"

The answer is simple ------ NO!

Sincerely

The Party of Personal Resposibilty

a discussion of hate speech law, as one poster mentioned. may be the discussion of context here.

it is certainly the important part of the quote that KBM left out as to not address the poster's point.

hate speech: seriously different than me calling KBM as asshat.
being jerk is not or an asshat is not illegal, incitement to violence is.
however,
Even in cases where speech encourages illegal violence, instances of incitement only qualify as criminal if the threat of violence is imminent.

imminent? didn't some guy just shoot a bunch of ppl because he THOUGHT his gun rights were being nullified? are ppl just now hoarding guns, isn't Chuck Norris talking secession (Texas ad South Carolina)?

time for connecting some of the dots, i mean nuts, in new case law. let's go Holder. and let's have some new Supremes and Fed judges, too.

BOO!

This strict standard prevents prosecution of many cases of incitement, including prosecution of those advocating violent opposition to the government, and those exhorting violence against racial, ethnic, or gender minorities.

"You're right, Larry. It was a boil on the ass of the Limbaugh that prevented his service to his country in a war he supported."

Aaaah, Limbaugh used his family name and power (trumpets blare) along with his future fame and riches to have the draft board classify him as unfit for service.

I ended up in Vietnam because I was stupid and partied my out of college (lost my 2S deferment and was classified 1A). A medical board made someone's classification determination and you try to blame the individual. I have no doubt you forgive all the POS liberals who wet beds or ran to Canada, yet you put down someone with a legitimate excuse - PATHETIC.

Msgt says, "Aaaah, Limbaugh ... the draft board classify him as unfit for service."

Golly. The Limbaugh was precluded from service due to riding around in jeeps...

I want the full story, complete with the time-machine bullshit to go with the other bullshit Tadowe produces so explosively, like a Mexican food shit.

I really like the threads which the Democrats use to restrict free speech, or desire to do that to their political enemies.

This, of course, demonstrates that Democrats are the opposite of being anthing like "liberal" and since they want to restrict religion, restrict free speech, restrict the words you use, and restrict your ability to defend yourself and family. Meanwhile they attempt to shove minority opinion up the public's buttocks by demanding homo marriage as some sort of neo-civil right. Next they'll support pederasty, as they did with all the years of re-electing a known pedophile homo (Gerry Studds) to congress; a known underage page fucker, and not just one of them ...

Real world creeps and the petty tyrant wannabes of politics ...

Tadowe?

I mean, shit.

Betel displays the stain of stupidity, "Golly. The Limbaugh was precluded from service due to riding around in jeeps..."

You are a bit of a moron, aren't you? Do you think Limbaugh was in WWII, riding around in the jeeps?

"I want the full story, complete with the time-machine bullshit to go with the other bullshit Tadowe produces so explosively, like a Mexican food shit."

I posted the link, idiot! Why don't you try and read it?

Nah! That would ruin your purposeful ignorance, wouldn't it?

Tadowe-
"Meanwhile they attempt to shove minority opinion up the public's buttocks by demanding homo marriage as some sort of neo-civil right. Next they'll support pederasty..."

Wow. Turn the lights on and look what ain't under the fridge.

Huh.

No response from Tadowe; I've only been spamming the last 3 threads on which he's been commenting.

I wonder why that is..?

Smething stinks in Denmark read it all the way through please.

snopes.com: Rush Limbaugh's Pilonidal Cyst

Very informative, Larry. Thanks for the link.

Seems to Me Rush Limbaugh fuck weaseled His way out of Vietnam. I find the whole thing fishy to Me.

Larry

If I wasn't a red blooded hertosexual (sp) I'd say Tadowe has a man crush on Betelg.

Follows him like a good lab puppy.

The Examiner Repeats Slander Against Alex Jones

Jurriaan Maessen
Infowars
April 10, 2009

The same writer who argued in an April 5th article that the popular radio talk show host Alex Jones was somehow inspirational to white supremacist cop killer Richard Poplawski, now emerges with an article called "Alex Jones exploits fear and populism, stokes paranoia and rage." The title reflects the content. Author John Zorabedian trips and falls into the same mindless musing in which he indulged himself in the earlier article, this time arguing that cinematography constitutes a serious threat to society.

In his latest trash piece he starts out by recognizing Jones' popularity, propping up his argument that he must be regarded as a dangerous influence to impressionable minds roving the internet. Ignoring the fact that Richard Poplawski explicitly had nothing but disregard for Jones. Zorabedian begins with a "critique" of The Obama Deception, cunningly tying the idiot Poplawski in with the release of Jones' latest film:

"The trailer for The Obama Deception shown below shows us how the tone of Jones' voice gives weight to his words. When combined with crafty imagery, music and spliced together clips of video, Jones builds up extraordinary tension."
Zorabedian argues in fact that everyone who uses cinematographic techniques should think twice about doing so. You never know who might next pick up a gun to cowardly execute police officers in cold blood. Zorabedian:

"Watching this effective piece of filmmaking, it is hard not to have an emotional responseis it fear, hatred, anger, sadness, anxiety that we feel?"

Either he argues for the removal of all musical scores and editing techniques from all future works of art, or he argues for all-out censorship of all future political documentaries. Either way, his reasoning obviously leads down a very dangerous road. He proceeds:

"In this construct, President Obama is the perfect lynchpin to set off a firestorm of righteous, fearful anger. A black man from Chicago with a Muslim name and a Harvard Law degree, who came from nowhere to win the presidency in a year of chaotic disorder in the financial markets, a new president who has had to rapidly acclimate himself and insinuate himself into the small cadre of powerful people who are running the show."

#31 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-04-11 03:18 AM | Reply

Interesting to watch Larry's 'deep' and ongoing fascination with Rush Limbaugh's butthole

BTW, Larry, did you serve in the military? Or did you get the Pork-Ass Deferment?

Since you are so full of words about somebody else who gamed the system, I wonder what you have done for America's security.

Before you post something stupid, I served five years in the Air Force.

Curious to know if you have given anything to our great country, or if you have only taken, and then whined like a baby for more.

"Seems to Me Rush Limbaugh fuck weaseled His way out of Vietnam. I find the whole thing fishy to Me."

Oh, yeah, Larry. Weasels are not fish. Just so you know.

As a liberal, I believe that the value of free speech has no limit.

However, the hate-speech of Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly,
Beck, etc.,...incites violence against persons of color,
women, gays, transgendered, jews, the obsese
as well as all other groups of inclusion.

These straight, christian white males with their
predictable stereotyping are out of control.
#8 | Posted by skip_wellington

You have to wonder about assholes like this who say two things at the same time?

Liberals hate capitalism, liberty and success, but to their little minds, that doesn't equate to hate speech.

ray- skip wellington aint no liberal.

Alex - I'll take your word for it, but said he's a liberal. Sarcasm like that doesn't work well in print.

PULL THE PLUG ON REICH-WING TALK RADIO

1. Ban conservatives from the airwaves
2. Provide government paid 'social orientation'
3. Fine offenders
4. Incarcerate repeat offenders
5. Pour federal dollars into diverse/progressive talk-radio

"It's not too late to stop the hate" (TM)

Be Well.

#8 | Posted by skip_wellington

ah too funny....yes lets stop the hate...
WEll trade you hannity for ed shultz and helen thomas....

I guess the panel on becks show yesterday was dead on about fascists in america and how it all started with wilson...who according to the book just out was the beginning of the end of the founders vision.
too bad...

Seems to Me Rush Limbaugh fuck weaseled His way out of Vietnam.

NORMALLY this kind of horseshit is spewed by some young punk with no idea of life in these united states during that time.
for almost the entire duration, there was a college deferment that millions of young men used and did so with little if any problems from any side of the issue.
and then came the lottery where many great americans, as in yours truely recieved a high number and were allowed to continue that college education. if my number had been low enough I would have proudly served.
but I dont expect any of you younger liberal punks to understand.
and to those of you here who DID SERVE in NAM
you have my sincere admiration and respect.

those of you here who DID SERVE in NAM
you have my sincere admiration and respect.

REGARDLESS of you political views now and even regardless of your regard towards me. even your bullshit NOW wont alter that respect and admiration for what you did during those turbullent times.

if my number had been low enough I would have proudly served.

#42 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-04-11 11:37 AM

Bullshit.

and just how do you know that??

I know you dont have any sort of mistical or mental powers to know that because you prove you are a stupid sumbitch all the time.

you have no fuckin clue what you are talking about so therefore I will no longer respond to you on this issue...

PSSST....(bronx cheer)

and heres hoping that none of you vets of nam allow bullshit from some to try and dimenish my stated respect and admiration.

Always count on the freedom loving drudge liberals (note sarcasm) to defend freedom.

Liberal Nazi's... they're here. Toe the party line or else..

Time for the brown shirts issue (or maybe the Mao suits)

Fortunately, many liberals in the US still have brains and a respect for freedom.. they just seem to stay away from Drudge.

You guys act like Rush Limbaugh is the only chickenhawk on right wing talk radio. What about Hannity, Beck, O'Liely, Savage etc?
The reason chickenhawks dominate right wing talk is because cowards are very good at selling fear.

I have no doubt you forgive all the POS liberals who wet beds or ran to Canada, yet you put down someone with a legitimate excuse - PATHETIC.

#22 | Posted by MSgt

Liberals didn't want ANYBODY to have to go to Vietnam. Pieholes like Limbaugh and Nugent were just fine with the war as long as it was somebody else's ass over there.

for almost the entire duration, there was a college deferment that millions of young men used and did so with little if any problems from any side of the issue.

Unless your name was Clinton and you were a Rhodes Scholar---then you were called a draft dodger--why wouldn't that same designation be applicable to you?

and to those of you here who DID SERVE in NAM
you have my sincere admiration and respect.

I doubt you know the meaning of either word.

#42 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-04-11 11:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hmmm, should talk show hosts be responsible for murders done by others?

How about the ex-Marine John Murtha, the Democrat who called our US soldiers (Marines he can't semper fi) murderers?

Shouldn't he be held responsible for any suicide by a Marine, since then ... ???

That's the logic you moronic "liberals" are using to dehumanize practioners of free speech, aren't you?

How about John Kerry's accusations against Vietnam soldiers; that they were murderers, torturers, and near subhuman? Of course, everyone knows now that his claims were all lies, made up to assist the North Vietnamese in continuing the war, and after meeting twice with them in Paris to plot the strategy he conducted - pretending to throwing his medals away and lying about our citizen military.

He's responsible for all the suicide deaths of US veterans who took their life, after his false testimony and anti-war efforts to help the North win against his own nation.

Now, you verminous creeps are lying about fellow Americans who are using their free speech!

You resemble communists Kerry plotted against the USA with, tyrants who disallowed free speech to their citizens and repressed them like slaves; sending them South to be butchered for the glory of fascistic communist ideology. You cretins want to end free speech, but just for the rightwing - Air America's free speech is just fine by you petty dictatorial wannabes.

How disgusting can your party actually become? Really! What part of the term "liberal" even applies to you lying socialists, anymore?

#50: Because he violated the law and did not report. A little different than legally using the college deferment dontchathink?

#49: Rastafuck: Liberals started the Vietnam war: Can you say Kennedy and Johnson?

#53 | Posted by boojiboy at 2009-04-11 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Another F in contemporary American history.

49: Rastafuck: Liberals started the Vietnam war: Can you say Kennedy and Johnson?

#53 | Posted by boojiboy at 2009-04-11 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag

The agreement for defense of Viet Nam came long before Kennedy and Johnson, and the first "advisors" were sent in under Eisenhower.

#54: That was the CIA working with France, a far cry from Johnson's phony Gulf of Tonkin incident, which in its audacity makes Bushe's WMD theories (oh AND your precious Bill Clinton btw) look juvenile.

Flagged fuck off Zitboy

Actually Vietnam was started under Eisenhur. He is the one who first set boots on the grond in Country. Not Kennedy not Johnson. Sorry about bursting another bubble of the Right Wingers.

Larry

Larryboy, those were advisors to the Vietnamese. It was Johnson who did the escalation with drafted American youth. Get your arms around it.

Larryboy?? You mean I ave a Son?? Kewl how did that happen?? Boy the things You learn about Yourself on the Retort that You didn't know beforehand. Wonder if the Mother is a knock out cause I don't want some stinky looking Woman bearing My Children.

Larry

The Vietnam war was a product of French colonialism. The US became involved in combat operations at Diem Bien Phu. It certainly was Johnson who turned it into the grand clusterfuck it became, not that Nixon was much better.

Larry, it was pity more than anything else.

BB says, "The agreement for defense of Viet Nam came long before Kennedy and Johnson, and the first "advisors" were sent in under Eisenhower."

You've repeated this lie! I've been through this with you, before!

Bullshit.

#44 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-04-11 11:53 AM | Reply

I'm too young to have served in Vietnam, but I'm old enough to smell dog shit.

And I am an Air Force veteran.

Jerry is full of dog shit (not worthy of bullshit)

Liberal stench

Why does the left give a shit what the rushies of the world say? Oh that's right, because they refuse to discuss the merits of their case, and merely attack the questioner.

`What an ignorant dupe you are, Bob, either that or you are a purposeful liar in support of your leftist ideology ...

#62 | Posted by tadowe at 2009-04-11 03:12 PM | Reply | Flag

Your post does not disprove anything I said. Let me say it again in case you'd like to try again.

The agreement for defense of Viet Nam came long before Kennedy and Johnson, and the first "advisors" were sent in under Eisenhower.

In case you have some doubt--Truman was before Kennedy and Johnson, and your link states there were no "advisors" in Viet Nam until Eisenhower. What part confuses you shipdit?

Rightwing radio has crossed the line of hate speech, limbaugh is the worst

Bob repeats, "In case you have some doubt--Truman was before Kennedy and Johnson, and your link states there were no "advisors" in Viet Nam until Eisenhower. What part confuses you shipdit?"

None of it, as it seems to have done to you. Tell me, what is the difference between and "advisor" and an "liaison?"

There were military advisors to the French, and although not called MACV, or formally as "Advisors."

You effort to parse the words is typical of the out-of-context loving liars of the left! You are actually trying to shift the blame onto REPUBLICANS by cutting-off your knowledge and understanding at the Ike era. You're too obvious and the argument has been asked-and-answered more times than Carter ever produced pills.

Suck it up, leftist, the Democrats started the war and were the only ones to do so, not Republicans ...

None of it, as it seems to have done to you. Tell me, what is the difference between and "advisor" and an "liaison?"

advisor - 4 results

ad⋅vis⋅er   /dˈvaɪzər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ad-vahy-zer] Show IPA
noun 1. one who gives advice.

li⋅ai⋅son  Show Spelled Pronunciation [lee-ey-zawn, lee-uh-zon, -zuhn or, often, ley-; lee-ey-zuhn, -zon; Fr. lye-zawn] Show IPA
noun, plural -sons  /-ˈzɔ̃z, -ˌzɒnz, -zənz, -zɒnz; Fr. -ˈzɔ̃/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [-zawnz, -zonz, -zuhnz, -zonz; Fr. -zawn] Show IPA . 1. the contact or connection maintained by communications between units of the armed forces or of any other organization in order to ensure concerted action, cooperation, etc.
2. a person who initiates and maintains such a contact or connection.

No advisors in Nam until Eisenhower. Your link substantiates this simple fact. You are still a brainwashed zombie.

#67 | Posted by tadowe at 2009-04-11 07:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hi, Bob

I must admit, you are quite the quibbler!

Needless to say, the "liaison" officers were "advisors" to the French; assisting them in logistics, weaponry and training on US equipment we supplied to the French, and later the Vietnamese government, before Ike.

You made your point, that Eisenhower actually started the "war." However, it is a blatant lie that has been shown to be untrue over-and-over again.

You leftists, though, are so obsessed with the lie, that you just can't let it go.

I actually feel sorry for your partisan intransigence, so reminiscent of fundamentalism of whatever religion ... only your party is your "god" to defend ...

As a domestic policy innovator, LBJ hit the ground running in 1965. His legislative accomplishments included securing congressional passage of the landmark Voting Rights Act and numerous great society programs including Medicare. Again, to avoid the tradeoff between "guns and butter," decisions about Vietnam were not highly publicized. Nonetheless, there were several decisions made in 1965 that would essentially "Americanize" the war and increase the commitment to levels that were feared in the policy discussions of the early 1960s.

After a Viet Cong attack on American barracks in Pleiku, Johnson ordered reprisal bombings of North Vietnam on February 6, 1965. This was later expanded, on February 21st, into a program of sustained bombing called Rolling Thunder. In March, deliberations led to the decision to escalate the ground war (see Larry Berman, Planning a Tragedy). In April, a battalion of U.S. marines landed at Da Nang; in May, the President submitted an emergency appropriation request to Congress to fund the U.S. effort in Vietnam; in June, LBJ gave General William Westmoreland the authority to commit American troops to ground combat operations in Vietnam.

You made your point, that Eisenhower actually started the "war." However, it is a blatant lie that has been shown to be untrue over-and-over again.

Either those "advisors" were advisors, or those "advisors" were the same type of "advisors" sent in by Kennedy. If that is the case, then Eisenhower started the war. However I never said Eisenhower started the war, or that those men there were anything but advisors in the true sense. The United States was financing the French action in Viet Nam. It could be said that was, in effect, an act of war against Viet Nam. If you pay some one to beat someones ass, should the guy whose ass gets kicked give you a pass? In that sense, Eisenhower started the war. If any of this is untrue, please link to a correction.

You leftists, though, are so obsessed with the lie, that you just can't let it go.

You paranoid rightists see ghosts in every post. I simply state facts. If I am mistaken, I would welcome the correction. All you gotta do is prove whatever you say. I would say the obsession is yours.

I actually feel sorry for your partisan intransigence, so reminiscent of fundamentalism of whatever religion ... only your party is your "god" to defend ...

Not at all. There is evidence Kennedy would have withdrawn from Viet Nam---it would have been an easy sale with the right PR. Eisenhowers Domino Theory was still scaring the nation, but Kennedy could have overcome it. Johnson was one of the worst Presidents we ever had. Very likely a murderer, and not just Kennedy. Johnson was a true evil President, a thug, and the first of a long string of mismanagement and fucking over America. It makes no difference if a President is a dem or rep to liberals---if he's a POS, he's a POS.

You are the only partisan here. I have yet to see you agree with anything liberal. I would think that all liberals on this site can think of something they disagree with Clinton on, and I would say that the number of things would be more than one. I would say the same thing about Obama. I doubt you can find anyone who agrees with every decision Obama has made. I don't like the troop increase in Afghanistan, and I thik the timetable in Iraq is too long. Not so with you. You are one dimensional. I can tell your point of view by the title of the thread. You have nothing more to add. You only have so much to say, and so many ways to say it. You've said it too many times.

#69 | Posted by tadowe at 2009-04-11 07:54 PM | Reply | Flag

Bob gets specious, "Either those "advisors" were advisors, or those "advisors" were the same type of "advisors" sent in by Kennedy. If that is the case, then Eisenhower started the war."

Bob, it wasn't a compliment about being a "quibbler!"

The term 'liaison' is MY term, not any official epithet for military trainers who give advice to other nation's militaries. You want to use the term "advisor" to apply to just those military trainers who became officially known as Military Assistance Command Vietnam (MACV) members - those Kennedy sent as "advisors" to that country.

Tadowe

No advisors in under Truman--the agreement for the defense of Viet Nam came long before Kennedy and Johnson.

Your rant merely shows you to be a partisan hack who can't accept reality and the facts. Read your own links and STFU Little Mind.

Bob repeats, "No advisors in under Truman--the agreement for the defense of Viet Nam came long before Kennedy and Johnson."

Thank you, Bob!!! I knew that your partisan intransigence would force you into an alternate reality!

I love the title of this

You know it's a dull night in Tardsville when Tadpole brings up Vietnam. Jesus, dumbass, why don't you fucking tell us all who really started the Spanish-American war, you self-absorbed fuckwaddle.

Really, you must not be a Democrat, but a communist intent on bringing the USA's stupid level up to your diminuitive, prevaricating stature, what?

Tad, what would you rather have in a fight: a gun you can't reach, or a 12-inch-long vulcanized black rubber...

bend over zombie and find out

bend over zombie and find out

I was talking about a tire... pervert!